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On July 30 2013 19:36 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:30 ZenithM wrote:On July 30 2013 19:28 Muffloe wrote:
Alot of people seem surprised, but I KNEW it would be a esf-finals. Mind blown? Well, if you look at the overall gameflow it is quite easy to predict Lol. I forgot to look at the overall gameflow, my bad. i, on the other hand, am a fuckin gameflow master ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mdM02RI.png)
Did you look at the gameflow by flipping a coin?
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On July 30 2013 19:36 figq wrote:
inb4 tl writers call maru evil/villain
Summon inner Maru jokes incoming.
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On July 30 2013 19:34 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:28 Muffloe wrote:
Alot of people seem surprised, but I KNEW it would be a esf-finals. Mind blown? Well, if you look at the overall gameflow it is quite easy to predict Overall gameflow. Important.
Next time we'll tell Innovation about overall gameflow. Could have saved him some time.
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This was a disappointment sure, when you're going to see a bo7 TvT you're not expecting it to end in 1 hour, but no way this was boring =)
Kespa players weren't here when all those kind of builds were standard in TvT, basically at the same period of the Slayers's blue flame MLG party. A lot of elevator play etc, but at the end these just became openings and they lead to standard game. Game 7 sealed the deal 4 hellions 6 marines 1 medivac vs 4 hellions 6 marines 1 medivac (and quickly 6 hellions for Innovation), outmicro happen and suddenly there's nothing left for Innovation while Maru still has nearly everything =D At least if we have Maru vs Bomer we can be sure Bomer won't just die like this.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 30 2013 19:35 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:34 bittman wrote:On July 30 2013 19:33 Fionn wrote:
Innovation needs to hire Mvp to prepare his Bo7 builds or something. He's pretty fucking awful in Bo7 considering how amazing he is mechanically. In the four Bo7 series he's been in the past two seasons, he's given up countless games to Soulkey, Maru and Symbol by merely letting them cheese him without scouting or playing safe. He luckily caught onto Symbol after being cheesed two times to take the series, and then he simply crushed sOs, a guy who pretty much choked on his own from his nerves. So long as he talks to Mvp and not Last he should be ok. Hire Flash. He will teach him to go Wraiths vs Cloak Wraiths in TvT.
And then lose to Fantasy lololol
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On July 30 2013 19:37 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:35 DidYuhim wrote:On July 30 2013 19:34 bittman wrote:On July 30 2013 19:33 Fionn wrote:
Innovation needs to hire Mvp to prepare his Bo7 builds or something. He's pretty fucking awful in Bo7 considering how amazing he is mechanically. In the four Bo7 series he's been in the past two seasons, he's given up countless games to Soulkey, Maru and Symbol by merely letting them cheese him without scouting or playing safe. He luckily caught onto Symbol after being cheesed two times to take the series, and then he simply crushed sOs, a guy who pretty much choked on his own from his nerves. So long as he talks to Mvp and not Last he should be ok. Hire Flash. He will teach him to go Wraiths vs Cloak Wraiths in TvT. And then lose to Fantasy lololol
While playing against Maru.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 30 2013 19:36 figq wrote:
inb4 tl writers call maru evil/villain
Just you wait, we have devised an evil plan already
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On July 30 2013 19:36 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:30 ZenithM wrote:On July 30 2013 19:28 Muffloe wrote:
Alot of people seem surprised, but I KNEW it would be a esf-finals. Mind blown? Well, if you look at the overall gameflow it is quite easy to predict Lol. I forgot to look at the overall gameflow, my bad. i, on the other hand, am a fuckin gameflow master
I also got the Maru pick!
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On July 30 2013 19:37 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:35 DidYuhim wrote:On July 30 2013 19:34 bittman wrote:On July 30 2013 19:33 Fionn wrote:
Innovation needs to hire Mvp to prepare his Bo7 builds or something. He's pretty fucking awful in Bo7 considering how amazing he is mechanically. In the four Bo7 series he's been in the past two seasons, he's given up countless games to Soulkey, Maru and Symbol by merely letting them cheese him without scouting or playing safe. He luckily caught onto Symbol after being cheesed two times to take the series, and then he simply crushed sOs, a guy who pretty much choked on his own from his nerves. So long as he talks to Mvp and not Last he should be ok. Hire Flash. He will teach him to go Wraiths vs Cloak Wraiths in TvT. And then lose to Fantasy lololol
Rofl! poor flash ;;
Poll: What final do you want?A TvT of the ages with Bomber and Maru (126) 77% A PvT requiem to end the OSL (37) 23% 163 total votes Your vote: What final do you want? (Vote): A TvT of the ages with Bomber and Maru
(Vote): A PvT requiem to end the OSL
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On July 30 2013 19:19 DidYuhim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:18 Wintex wrote:Poll: What final do you want?A TvT of the ages with Bomber and Maru (126) 77% A PvT requiem to end the OSL (37) 23% 163 total votes Your vote: What final do you want? (Vote): A TvT of the ages with Bomber and Maru
(Vote): A PvT requiem to end the OSL
TvT of ages where Maru doesn't cheese? + Show Spoiler +
Maru wouldn't cheese Bomber tho.
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United States23455 Posts
I picked Maru to win the series simply due to the fact that they nerfed Hellbats, pretty much making Innovation's style of TvT weaker, and that he's simply a better BoX manager than Innovation is. Maru was always one of the best Up and Down players due to his skills of being able to know what builds to use on what maps and when to cheese at the appropriate times. Innovation's BoX game planning just leaves a lot to be desired. Mechanically he is probably better than everyone currently on the planet, but he is going to need to better map out long series before he goes on a long stretch of titles.
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On July 30 2013 19:38 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:37 lichter wrote:On July 30 2013 19:35 DidYuhim wrote:On July 30 2013 19:34 bittman wrote:On July 30 2013 19:33 Fionn wrote:
Innovation needs to hire Mvp to prepare his Bo7 builds or something. He's pretty fucking awful in Bo7 considering how amazing he is mechanically. In the four Bo7 series he's been in the past two seasons, he's given up countless games to Soulkey, Maru and Symbol by merely letting them cheese him without scouting or playing safe. He luckily caught onto Symbol after being cheesed two times to take the series, and then he simply crushed sOs, a guy who pretty much choked on his own from his nerves. So long as he talks to Mvp and not Last he should be ok. Hire Flash. He will teach him to go Wraiths vs Cloak Wraiths in TvT. And then lose to Fantasy lololol Rofl! poor flash ;; Poll: What final do you want?A TvT of the ages with Bomber and Maru (126) 77% A PvT requiem to end the OSL (37) 23% 163 total votes Your vote: What final do you want? (Vote): A TvT of the ages with Bomber and Maru
(Vote): A PvT requiem to end the OSL
I think we saw enough pvt with bomber vs first and suno vs rain.
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On July 30 2013 19:37 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:36 jalstar wrote:On July 30 2013 19:30 ZenithM wrote:On July 30 2013 19:28 Muffloe wrote:
Alot of people seem surprised, but I KNEW it would be a esf-finals. Mind blown? Well, if you look at the overall gameflow it is quite easy to predict Lol. I forgot to look at the overall gameflow, my bad. i, on the other hand, am a fuckin gameflow master Did you look at the gameflow by flipping a coin?
not entirely inaccurate. the coins are weighted by the probabilities on aligulac, and the computer flips them.
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wow, so i arrived a whole 90mins late to a bo7 TvT and somehow missed the entire series said no one ev...
/facepalm.
Edit, I guess on the brightside I tipped Rain to win WCS korea and i fancy him over maru more than i did over innovation so thats a plus
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On July 30 2013 19:36 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:34 sAsImre wrote:On July 30 2013 19:23 HolyArrow wrote:On July 30 2013 19:22 liberate71 wrote:On July 30 2013 19:22 mcmartini wrote:On July 30 2013 19:20 opterown wrote:On July 30 2013 19:19 Brian333 wrote:
The happiest player on the planet right now is probably Rain.
Against Innovation, I don't think Rain has any chance of winning. Given his very conservative and safe play, Rain just cannot beat Innovation. We saw their ace match where it really looked like Innovation just straight up outclasses Rain.
But, against Maru? Rain has to feel good. All he has to do is get past Bomber and he could potentially be a back-to-back, 2-time OSL champion. that's probably what symbol and bogus thought when they drew maru too symbol: whew i got maru instead of soulkey bogus: whew i got maru instead of symbol ... etc Wrong. Innovation stated he wanted symbol and was thinking it would be a hard match with maru due to his excellent ladder ranking and the steam he had built up. Getting spanked 2-0 against Bomber probably didnt help his confidence either Lose 2-0 in macro games, then lose 4-0 to mostly cheeses feelsbadman there is vods somewhere for the bomber/bogus match ? I use the ones on Gomtv.net because I have an account there. I think you can watch the first Bomber vs. Innovation game on Standard quality for free.
thanks, bomber + macro means awesomeness
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On July 30 2013 19:40 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:37 bo1b wrote:On July 30 2013 19:36 jalstar wrote:On July 30 2013 19:30 ZenithM wrote:On July 30 2013 19:28 Muffloe wrote:
Alot of people seem surprised, but I KNEW it would be a esf-finals. Mind blown? Well, if you look at the overall gameflow it is quite easy to predict Lol. I forgot to look at the overall gameflow, my bad. i, on the other hand, am a fuckin gameflow master Did you look at the gameflow by flipping a coin? not entirely inaccurate. the coins are weighted by the probabilities on aligulac, and the computer flips them.
Wasn't like a 30% on aligulac for Maru ?
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On July 30 2013 19:35 Tanzklaue wrote:
I'm jst superhappy for maru here. he deserves it, with his steady improvement over the last few months.
and i think inno is proffessional enough to come back stronger than ever. he will work on his TvT, and I am confident that his story isn't over yet.
cheering for bomber, and quite confident that bomber can topple rain here. he swiped first 3-0, and we saw what first could do with terrans. Well said. I'm also happy for Maru, it's great to see raw talent combine with hard work over a long period of time to make a great player. I hope he can keep it up.
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Wtf happened here? Just wanted to tune into game 3 or 4.
On July 30 2013 19:40 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:40 jalstar wrote:On July 30 2013 19:37 bo1b wrote:On July 30 2013 19:36 jalstar wrote:On July 30 2013 19:30 ZenithM wrote:On July 30 2013 19:28 Muffloe wrote:
Alot of people seem surprised, but I KNEW it would be a esf-finals. Mind blown? Well, if you look at the overall gameflow it is quite easy to predict Lol. I forgot to look at the overall gameflow, my bad. i, on the other hand, am a fuckin gameflow master Did you look at the gameflow by flipping a coin? not entirely inaccurate. the coins are weighted by the probabilities on aligulac, and the computer flips them. Wasn't like a 30% on aligulac for Maru ?
yeah, and 4-0 Maru was like 1%
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On July 30 2013 19:40 Godwrath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2013 19:40 jalstar wrote:On July 30 2013 19:37 bo1b wrote:On July 30 2013 19:36 jalstar wrote:On July 30 2013 19:30 ZenithM wrote:On July 30 2013 19:28 Muffloe wrote:
Alot of people seem surprised, but I KNEW it would be a esf-finals. Mind blown? Well, if you look at the overall gameflow it is quite easy to predict Lol. I forgot to look at the overall gameflow, my bad. i, on the other hand, am a fuckin gameflow master Did you look at the gameflow by flipping a coin? not entirely inaccurate. the coins are weighted by the probabilities on aligulac, and the computer flips them. Wasn't like a 30% on aligulac for Maru ?
He still flips a coin though ;D
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