I really don't see Puck having a chance to upset and get out of the group. Snute and Jaedong will advance for sure. But I really hope Puck advances. I mean I know what Jaedong stands for and stuff, but I don't want him to advance in the WCS AM.
I know a lot of people will be expecting Snute/Jaedong, but with the match order, what if we saw something like Jaedong > Snute Macsed > puCK Macsed > Jaedong
Then you would lose one of the fan favorite zergs D:
On July 23 2013 23:47 Shellshock1122 wrote: I know a lot of people will be expecting Snute/Jaedong, but with the match order, what if we saw something like Jaedong > Snute Macsed > puCK Macsed > Jaedong
Then you would lose one of the fan favorite zergs D:
On July 23 2013 23:47 Shellshock1122 wrote: I know a lot of people will be expecting Snute/Jaedong, but with the match order, what if we saw something like Jaedong > Snute Macsed > puCK Macsed > Jaedong
Then you would lose one of the fan favorite zergs D:
Ow, I'm so sad that Jaedong has to be eliminated that fast. Sorry guys...
Edit: actually with the first game being the ZvZ JD might get through. This is the best set-up for the group, ZvP + ZvP would have been easier to predict.
i feel like snute has gotten better and better, and macsed is pretty underrated. i think snute/jaedong will be close but that puck will strugge against Macsed
MacSed's PvZ isn't very consistent, if he's on his day I'd say he can knock down Jaedong, but I think he will have trouble dealing with Snute. Ah such a hard group to predict, still going for Snute and MacSed I guess.
On July 24 2013 02:27 digmouse wrote: MacSed's PvZ isn't very consistent, if he's on his day I'd say he can knock down Jaedong, but I think he will have trouble dealing with Snute. Ah such a hard group to predict, still going for Snute and MacSed I guess.
If he knows some good 2 base all ins he probably has a decent shot of taking out Jaedong
0:00 puCK spawns in the top left MacSed spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed Cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both players stalker for both players
4:00 MSC core for puCK Twilight council for MacSed MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK Twilight council for puCK
5:00 Dark Shrine for MacSed 3rd gate for MacSed 3rd gate for puCK forward pylon for MacSed blink research started for puCK
6:00 robo for MacSed robo for puCK puCK sending his stalkers across the map DT warp in started for MacSed
7:00 P 42 vs M 40 puCK starting to pressure at the front MacSed has a sentry and a few stalkers at the top of th eramp first DT enters the main of puCK puCK recalls all of his units and starts an observer Nexus for puCK immortal for MacSed Nexus for MaCsed 0 kills on the DT of MacSed but it escapes
8:00 P45 vs M 45 MacSed continuing immortal production forge for puCK MacSed loses his DT on the map observer for MacSed after his 2nd immortal immortal started for puCK
9:00 P 54 vs M 59 +1 attack started for puCK Robo bay for MacSed puCK loses his observer Warp prism for MacSed
10:00 P 67 vs M 69 defensive cannon in the mineral line of puCK's main Robo bay for puCK forge for MacSed Colossus production started for MacSed
0:00 puCK spawns in the top left MacSed spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed Cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both players stalker for both players
4:00 MSC core for puCK Twilight council for MacSed MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK Twilight council for puCK
5:00 Dark Shrine for MacSed 3rd gate for MacSed 3rd gate for puCK forward pylon for MacSed blink research started for puCK
6:00 robo for MacSed robo for puCK puCK sending his stalkers across the map DT warp in started for MacSed
7:00 P 42 vs M 40 puCK starting to pressure at the front MacSed has a sentry and a few stalkers at the top of th eramp first DT enters the main of puCK puCK recalls all of his units and starts an observer Nexus for puCK immortal for MacSed Nexus for MaCsed 0 kills on the DT of MacSed but it escapes
8:00 P45 vs M 45 MacSed continuing immortal production forge for puCK MacSed loses his DT on the map observer for MacSed after his 2nd immortal immortal started for puCK
9:00 P 54 vs M 59 +1 attack started for puCK Robo bay for MacSed puCK loses his observer Warp prism for MacSed
10:00 P 67 vs M 69 defensive cannon in the mineral line of puCK's main Robo bay for puCK forge for MacSed Colossus production started for MacSed
11:00 P 78 vs M 84 Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed charge research started for MacSed +1 attack for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK 2 more gates for puCK 2nd robo for MacSed
12:00 P 85 vs M 87 Extended thermal lance research started for puCK Colossus production started for puCK 3rd base for MacSed +2 attack started for puCK 3rd base for puCK charge research for puCK
13:00 P 93 vs M 107 double colossus production for both players 2nd forge for MacSed +1 armor started for MacSed +2 attack started for MacSed
14:00 P 110 vs M 119 Templar archives for puCK 4 stalkers blink into the main of MacSed and start killing probes defensive cannon finishes in the mineral line of MacSed photon overcharge on the main nexus of MacSed forces the stalkers away
15:00 P 134 vs M 137 2nd forge for puCK +3 attack started for puCK 3 more gates foor MacSed stalkers blink back into the main of MacSed templar archives for MacSed
0:00 puCK spawns in the top left MacSed spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed Cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both players stalker for both players
4:00 MSC core for puCK Twilight council for MacSed MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK Twilight council for puCK
5:00 Dark Shrine for MacSed 3rd gate for MacSed 3rd gate for puCK forward pylon for MacSed blink research started for puCK
6:00 robo for MacSed robo for puCK puCK sending his stalkers across the map DT warp in started for MacSed
7:00 P 42 vs M 40 puCK starting to pressure at the front MacSed has a sentry and a few stalkers at the top of th eramp first DT enters the main of puCK puCK recalls all of his units and starts an observer Nexus for puCK immortal for MacSed Nexus for MaCsed 0 kills on the DT of MacSed but it escapes
8:00 P45 vs M 45 MacSed continuing immortal production forge for puCK MacSed loses his DT on the map observer for MacSed after his 2nd immortal immortal started for puCK
9:00 P 54 vs M 59 +1 attack started for puCK Robo bay for MacSed puCK loses his observer Warp prism for MacSed
10:00 P 67 vs M 69 defensive cannon in the mineral line of puCK's main Robo bay for puCK forge for MacSed Colossus production started for MacSed
11:00 P 78 vs M 84 Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed charge research started for MacSed +1 attack for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK 2 more gates for puCK 2nd robo for MacSed
12:00 P 85 vs M 87 Extended thermal lance research started for puCK Colossus production started for puCK 3rd base for MacSed +2 attack started for puCK 3rd base for puCK charge research for puCK
13:00 P 93 vs M 107 double colossus production for both players 2nd forge for MacSed +1 armor started for MacSed +2 attack started for MacSed
14:00 P 110 vs M 119 Templar archives for puCK 4 stalkers blink into the main of MacSed and start killing probes defensive cannon finishes in the mineral line of MacSed photon overcharge on the main nexus of MacSed forces the stalkers away
15:00 P 134 vs M 137 2nd forge for puCK +3 attack started for puCK 3 more gates foor MacSed stalkers blink back into the main of MacSed templar archives for MacSed
16:00 P 146 vs M 152 photon overcharge and a colossus chases the stalkers away 4th base for puCK +3 attack and +2 armor for MacSed +1 armor for puCK puCK moving out to the center of the map to clear the watchtowers
17:00 P 178 vs M 166 both players switch back to immortal production archons for both players 4 more gates or MacSed 4 stalker hitsquad caught by zealots waiting in the main of MacSed
18:00 P 172 vs M 177 MacSed loads a DT and 3 zealots in his warp prism Dark shrine for puCK
19:00 P 185 vs M 187 4th base for MacSed 7 immortals 6 colossi for puck vs 5 immortals 8 colossi for Macsed warp prism for puCK engagement in the middle of the map
20:00 P 167 vs M 169 timewarps on both armies both players lose most of their units except puCK saves his colossi MacSed starting to lose all of his colossi puCK takes a huge supply lead as warp ins enter the game
0:00 puCK spawns in the top left MacSed spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed Cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both players stalker for both players
4:00 MSC core for puCK Twilight council for MacSed MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK Twilight council for puCK
5:00 Dark Shrine for MacSed 3rd gate for MacSed 3rd gate for puCK forward pylon for MacSed blink research started for puCK
6:00 robo for MacSed robo for puCK puCK sending his stalkers across the map DT warp in started for MacSed
7:00 P 42 vs M 40 puCK starting to pressure at the front MacSed has a sentry and a few stalkers at the top of th eramp first DT enters the main of puCK puCK recalls all of his units and starts an observer Nexus for puCK immortal for MacSed Nexus for MaCsed 0 kills on the DT of MacSed but it escapes
8:00 P45 vs M 45 MacSed continuing immortal production forge for puCK MacSed loses his DT on the map observer for MacSed after his 2nd immortal immortal started for puCK
9:00 P 54 vs M 59 +1 attack started for puCK Robo bay for MacSed puCK loses his observer Warp prism for MacSed
10:00 P 67 vs M 69 defensive cannon in the mineral line of puCK's main Robo bay for puCK forge for MacSed Colossus production started for MacSed
11:00 P 78 vs M 84 Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed charge research started for MacSed +1 attack for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK 2 more gates for puCK 2nd robo for MacSed
12:00 P 85 vs M 87 Extended thermal lance research started for puCK Colossus production started for puCK 3rd base for MacSed +2 attack started for puCK 3rd base for puCK charge research for puCK
13:00 P 93 vs M 107 double colossus production for both players 2nd forge for MacSed +1 armor started for MacSed +2 attack started for MacSed
14:00 P 110 vs M 119 Templar archives for puCK 4 stalkers blink into the main of MacSed and start killing probes defensive cannon finishes in the mineral line of MacSed photon overcharge on the main nexus of MacSed forces the stalkers away
15:00 P 134 vs M 137 2nd forge for puCK +3 attack started for puCK 3 more gates foor MacSed stalkers blink back into the main of MacSed templar archives for MacSed
16:00 P 146 vs M 152 photon overcharge and a colossus chases the stalkers away 4th base for puCK +3 attack and +2 armor for MacSed +1 armor for puCK puCK moving out to the center of the map to clear the watchtowers
17:00 P 178 vs M 166 both players switch back to immortal production archons for both players 4 more gates or MacSed 4 stalker hitsquad caught by zealots waiting in the main of MacSed
18:00 P 172 vs M 177 MacSed loads a DT and 3 zealots in his warp prism Dark shrine for puCK
19:00 P 185 vs M 187 4th base for MacSed 7 immortals 6 colossi for puck vs 5 immortals 8 colossi for Macsed warp prism for puCK engagement in the middle of the map
20:00 P 167 vs M 169 timewarps on both armies both players lose most of their units except puCK saves his colossi MacSed starting to lose all of his colossi puCK takes a huge supply lead as warp ins enter the game
21:00 P 153 vs M 106 more archons and colossi for puCK MacSed down to 1 colossus MacSed trying to rebuild his army puCK pushing into the natural of MacSed
22:00 P 163 vs M 100 Macsed's small army is crushed MacSed ggs! puCK wins game 1!
On July 24 2013 07:27 Steelavocado wrote: Is it true that puck is a girl? Just curious, could have swore I read that somewhere.
From what I understand, puCK was a boy who identified as a girl but is now not sure and would prefer not using pronouns. That's why the TL preview made that comment about not using pronouns in that paragraph of the preview.
On July 24 2013 07:28 Fusilero wrote: You know I get this feeling that Jim is leading China as a region to become overrated, I dunno it feels like past Jim China isn't actually that good.
XY is supposed to be a GM on the KR server. His TvZ looked very good but his TvT not so much so I guess it's kind of believable. but yes, Jim seems a lot better than the other Chinese players.
On July 24 2013 07:27 Steelavocado wrote: Is it true that puck is a girl? Just curious, could have swore I read that somewhere.
From what I understand, puCK was a boy who identified as a girl but is now not sure and would prefer not using pronouns. That's why the TL preview made that comment about not using pronouns in that paragraph of the preview.
On July 24 2013 07:28 Fusilero wrote: You know I get this feeling that Jim is leading China as a region to become overrated, I dunno it feels like past Jim China isn't actually that good.
XY is supposed to be a GM on the KR server. His TvZ looked very good but his TvT not so much so I guess it's kind of believable. but yes, Jim seems a lot better than the other Chinese players.
I wonder if the singular "they" would be a good fit for this kind of situations. Most languages don't play nice with the modern concept of gender.
On July 24 2013 07:27 Steelavocado wrote: Is it true that puck is a girl? Just curious, could have swore I read that somewhere.
From what I understand, puCK was a boy who identified as a girl but is now not sure and would prefer not using pronouns. That's why the TL preview made that comment about not using pronouns in that paragraph of the preview.
On July 24 2013 07:28 Fusilero wrote: You know I get this feeling that Jim is leading China as a region to become overrated, I dunno it feels like past Jim China isn't actually that good.
XY is supposed to be a GM on the KR server. His TvZ looked very good but his TvT not so much so I guess it's kind of believable. but yes, Jim seems a lot better than the other Chinese players.
I wonder if the singular "they" would be a good fit for this kind of situations. Most languages don't play nice with the modern concept of gender.
Linguistically, we would use "they," in English because we don't have a case for the singular personal pronoun which is genderless. "They," for those of you who are interested is actually plural but we use it for individual people.
On July 24 2013 07:27 Steelavocado wrote: Is it true that puck is a girl? Just curious, could have swore I read that somewhere.
From what I understand, puCK was a boy who identified as a girl but is now not sure and would prefer not using pronouns. That's why the TL preview made that comment about not using pronouns in that paragraph of the preview.
On July 24 2013 07:28 Fusilero wrote: You know I get this feeling that Jim is leading China as a region to become overrated, I dunno it feels like past Jim China isn't actually that good.
XY is supposed to be a GM on the KR server. His TvZ looked very good but his TvT not so much so I guess it's kind of believable. but yes, Jim seems a lot better than the other Chinese players.
I wonder if the singular "they" would be a good fit for this kind of situations. Most languages don't play nice with the modern concept of gender.
Linguistically, we would use "they," in English because we don't have a case for the singular personal pronoun which is genderless. "They," for those of you who are interested is actually plural but we use it for individual people.
They are very grateful for this insight. And by they I mean myself.
On July 24 2013 07:27 Steelavocado wrote: Is it true that puck is a girl? Just curious, could have swore I read that somewhere.
From what I understand, puCK was a boy who identified as a girl but is now not sure and would prefer not using pronouns. That's why the TL preview made that comment about not using pronouns in that paragraph of the preview.
On July 24 2013 07:28 Fusilero wrote: You know I get this feeling that Jim is leading China as a region to become overrated, I dunno it feels like past Jim China isn't actually that good.
XY is supposed to be a GM on the KR server. His TvZ looked very good but his TvT not so much so I guess it's kind of believable. but yes, Jim seems a lot better than the other Chinese players.
I wonder if the singular "they" would be a good fit for this kind of situations. Most languages don't play nice with the modern concept of gender.
I'll just use the name of the person in those cases. Not the best thing stylistic, but I am not good at that anyway.
On July 24 2013 07:34 below66 wrote: has anyone figured out how to fix twitches laggyness lately.
Try different quality settings if all lag and you don't see a ton of complains from other it is most like a problem on your end. Provider or something at home.
During the downtime between games, I'm playing the "Shellshock Refresh" game:
I go to My Posts, where it will undoubtedly say that the last message in this LR thread was Shellshock. I wait a minute or two, and then refresh my browser. If the total post count in the thread has increased, yet Shellshock still has the latest post, I smile.
On July 24 2013 07:27 Steelavocado wrote: Is it true that puck is a girl? Just curious, could have swore I read that somewhere.
From what I understand, puCK was a boy who identified as a girl but is now not sure and would prefer not using pronouns. That's why the TL preview made that comment about not using pronouns in that paragraph of the preview.
On July 24 2013 07:28 Fusilero wrote: You know I get this feeling that Jim is leading China as a region to become overrated, I dunno it feels like past Jim China isn't actually that good.
XY is supposed to be a GM on the KR server. His TvZ looked very good but his TvT not so much so I guess it's kind of believable. but yes, Jim seems a lot better than the other Chinese players.
I wonder if the singular "they" would be a good fit for this kind of situations. Most languages don't play nice with the modern concept of gender.
Linguistically, we would use "they," in English because we don't have a case for the singular personal pronoun which is genderless. "They," for those of you who are interested is actually plural but we use it for individual people.
They are very grateful for this insight. And by they I mean myself.
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 double gas for both players cybernetics core for both players
3:00 zealot for puCK 2nd gate for MacSed MSC for puCK staler for MacSed
4:00 sentry for puCK MSC for MacSed Nexus for puCK
5:00 Robo for puCK Nexus for MacSed 2 more gates for puCK robo for MacSed
6:00 observer for puCK another gate for MacSed MSC scouts the main of puCK 2nd observer for puCK observer for MacSed immortal production started for puCK
7:00 P 46 vs M 42 Robo bay for MacSed 2 more gas for puCK 2 more gas for MacSed forge for puCK
8:00 P 55 vs M 56 immortal production started for MacSed forge for MacSed hallucinated phoenix of puCK sees the robo bay robo bay for puCK colossus production started for MacSed +1 attack started for puCK
9:00 P 69 vs M 68 +1 attack started for MacSed Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK 3rd immortal for puCK 3rd base for MacSed
10:00 P 78 vs M 74 2nd robo for MacSed Colossus production for puCK Extended thermal lance research for puCK 3rd base for puCK Twilight council for puCK Twilight council for MacSed
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 double gas for both players cybernetics core for both players
3:00 zealot for puCK 2nd gate for MacSed MSC for puCK staler for MacSed
4:00 sentry for puCK MSC for MacSed Nexus for puCK
5:00 Robo for puCK Nexus for MacSed 2 more gates for puCK robo for MacSed
6:00 observer for puCK another gate for MacSed MSC scouts the main of puCK 2nd observer for puCK observer for MacSed immortal production started for puCK
7:00 P 46 vs M 42 Robo bay for MacSed 2 more gas for puCK 2 more gas for MacSed forge for puCK
8:00 P 55 vs M 56 immortal production started for MacSed forge for MacSed hallucinated phoenix of puCK sees the robo bay robo bay for puCK colossus production started for MacSed +1 attack started for puCK
9:00 P 69 vs M 68 +1 attack started for MacSed Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK 3rd immortal for puCK 3rd base for MacSed
10:00 P 78 vs M 74 2nd robo for MacSed Colossus production for puCK Extended thermal lance research for puCK 3rd base for puCK Twilight council for puCK Twilight council for MacSed
11:00 P 96 vs M 95 3 more gates for puCK 2 more gates for MacSed +1 armor for MacSed 2nd forge for MacSed +2 attack started for puCK double colossus production for both players
12:00 P 105 vs M 104 Dark shrine for puCK Templar archives for puCK charge research started for puCK +2 attack started for MacSed charge research started for MacSed cannons in the mineral lines of MacSed 2 more gates or puCK
13:00 P 118 vs M 122 Warp prism for puCK archons for puCK +2 armor started for MacSed 4 more gates for MacSed
14:00 P 135 vs M 136 Templar archives for MacSed puCK moving out to the center of the map to deny some pylons being built DTs of puCK are denied from the 3rd and natural warp prism warps a DT into the main of MacSed but there is a cannon to kill it
15:00 P 157 vs M 163 DT at the 3rd of puCK gets 13 kills zealot DT warp in in the main of MacSed from the warp prism
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 double gas for both players cybernetics core for both players
3:00 zealot for puCK 2nd gate for MacSed MSC for puCK staler for MacSed
4:00 sentry for puCK MSC for MacSed Nexus for puCK
5:00 Robo for puCK Nexus for MacSed 2 more gates for puCK robo for MacSed
6:00 observer for puCK another gate for MacSed MSC scouts the main of puCK 2nd observer for puCK observer for MacSed immortal production started for puCK
7:00 P 46 vs M 42 Robo bay for MacSed 2 more gas for puCK 2 more gas for MacSed forge for puCK
8:00 P 55 vs M 56 immortal production started for MacSed forge for MacSed hallucinated phoenix of puCK sees the robo bay robo bay for puCK colossus production started for MacSed +1 attack started for puCK
9:00 P 69 vs M 68 +1 attack started for MacSed Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK 3rd immortal for puCK 3rd base for MacSed
10:00 P 78 vs M 74 2nd robo for MacSed Colossus production for puCK Extended thermal lance research for puCK 3rd base for puCK Twilight council for puCK Twilight council for MacSed
11:00 P 96 vs M 95 3 more gates for puCK 2 more gates for MacSed +1 armor for MacSed 2nd forge for MacSed +2 attack started for puCK double colossus production for both players
12:00 P 105 vs M 104 Dark shrine for puCK Templar archives for puCK charge research started for puCK +2 attack started for MacSed charge research started for MacSed cannons in the mineral lines of MacSed 2 more gates or puCK
13:00 P 118 vs M 122 Warp prism for puCK archons for puCK +2 armor started for MacSed 4 more gates for MacSed
14:00 P 135 vs M 136 Templar archives for MacSed puCK moving out to the center of the map to deny some pylons being built DTs of puCK are denied from the 3rd and natural warp prism warps a DT into the main of MacSed but there is a cannon to kill it
15:00 P 157 vs M 163 DT at the 3rd of puCK gets 13 kills zealot DT warp in in the main of MacSed from the warp prism
16:00 P 179 vs M 181 MacSed cleans up the warpins in his main 4 more gates for MacSed puCK switches back to immortal production archons in for MacSed now +3 attack started for puCK
17:00 P 183 vs M 195 4th base for puCK MacSed moving out on the map with 10 colossi (1 immortal) 4 immortals 8 colossi for puCK MacSed positioning outside of the natural of puCK
18:00 P 197 vs M 199 warp in off screen in the main of MacSed MacSed moves in for the attack puCK has a defensive arc between his natural and 3rd puCK doesnt engage completely with his full army at the start puCK's army is smacked down
19:00 P 109 vs M 153 puCK ggs as Macsed moves into the natural MacSed wins game 2!
On July 24 2013 07:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: During the downtime between games, I'm playing the "Shellshock Refresh" game:
I go to My Posts, where it will undoubtedly say that the last message in this LR thread was Shellshock. I wait a minute or two, and then refresh my browser. If the total post count in the thread has increased, yet Shellshock still has the latest post, I smile.
On July 24 2013 07:46 Mozdk wrote: Wins the A-move. I lol'ed irl
Rotterdam can deny it all day long, but it's still true haha ^^. Pretty low lvl PvP D: btw.: is it only me, or is their desk a bit too small for both of them? ^^
On July 24 2013 07:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: During the downtime between games, I'm playing the "Shellshock Refresh" game:
I go to My Posts, where it will undoubtedly say that the last message in this LR thread was Shellshock. I wait a minute or two, and then refresh my browser. If the total post count in the thread has increased, yet Shellshock still has the latest post, I smile.
I just can't fathom the choice for the second robo over a stargate. That you start with colo to secure a third seems fine but with the near perfect scouting a hallucination every minute gives you it just seems to me responding with tempests is so easy and just a must. If one player 1 robo colossi + tempests versus the others 2 robo colossi i feel it's just a big advantage. Sure you have some extra infrastructure costs because the fleet beacon is 300/200 but the composition advantage is worth it imo. Defenders advantage in colo wars should be enough to get a proper tempest count out before the colo player maxes imo and the player going tempests has a far stronger 200/200 composition.
On July 24 2013 07:50 Markwerf wrote: I just can't fathom the choice for the second robo over a stargate. That you start with colo to secure a third seems fine but with the near perfect scouting a hallucination every minute gives you it just seems to me responding with tempests is so easy and just a must. If one player 1 robo colossi + tempests versus the others 2 robo colossi i feel it's just a big advantage. Sure you have some extra infrastructure costs because the fleet beacon is 300/200 but the composition advantage is worth it imo. Defenders advantage in colo wars should be enough to get a proper tempest count out before the colo player maxes imo and the player going tempests has a far stronger 200/200 composition.
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gate first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas fr MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both plyaers MSC for puCK stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed twilight council for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed
5:00 3rd gate for puCK Blink research started for puCK stalker skirmish in the middle of the map MSC of puCK is under attack timewarp on the stalkers of MacSed MacSed loses a stalker
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gate first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas fr MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both plyaers MSC for puCK stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed twilight council for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed
5:00 3rd gate for puCK Blink research started for puCK stalker skirmish in the middle of the map MSC of puCK is under attack timewarp on the stalkers of MacSed MacSed loses a stalker
6:00 Macsed gets a forward pylon down and kills off the MSC of puCK MSC of MacSed harassing puCK's mineral line stalkers moving into the main of puCK MacSed ahead 10 to 5 in stalker count
7:00 P 41 vs M 37 puCK pulls his probes MSC for puCK MacSed retreats to the ramp probe drill from puCK to surround a stalker but retreats into his main MacSed trying ot get a pylon up in puCK's base Robo for MacSed MacSed backs off sentry warped in for puCK
8:00 P 40 vs M 46 MSC rebuilding for MacSed Robo for puCK immortal started for MacSed
9:00 P 44 vs M 56 puCK ahead by 2 workers blink was canceled during the engagement earlier and is restarted now for puCK both players lose their forward pylon Nexus for MacSed observer for puCK
10:00 P 52 vs M 58 Nexus for puCK MacSed scouts the nexus with a zealot 2nd immortal for MacSed immortal production started for puCK
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gate first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas fr MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both plyaers MSC for puCK stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed twilight council for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed
5:00 3rd gate for puCK Blink research started for puCK stalker skirmish in the middle of the map MSC of puCK is under attack timewarp on the stalkers of MacSed MacSed loses a stalker
6:00 Macsed gets a forward pylon down and kills off the MSC of puCK MSC of MacSed harassing puCK's mineral line stalkers moving into the main of puCK MacSed ahead 10 to 5 in stalker count
7:00 P 41 vs M 37 puCK pulls his probes MSC for puCK MacSed retreats to the ramp probe drill from puCK to surround a stalker but retreats into his main MacSed trying ot get a pylon up in puCK's base Robo for MacSed MacSed backs off sentry warped in for puCK
8:00 P 40 vs M 46 MSC rebuilding for MacSed Robo for puCK immortal started for MacSed
9:00 P 44 vs M 56 puCK ahead by 2 workers blink was canceled during the engagement earlier and is restarted now for puCK both players lose their forward pylon Nexus for MacSed observer for puCK
10:00 P 52 vs M 58 Nexus for puCK MacSed scouts the nexus with a zealot 2nd immortal for MacSed immortal production started for puCK
11:00 P 63 vs M 69 forge for puCK Robo bay for MacSed observer for MacSed forge for MacSed
12:00 P 70 vs M 74 +1 attack started for puCK Robo by for puCK Colossus production started for MacSed +1 attack started for MacSed
13:00 P 80 vs M 88 Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK Extended thermal lance research started for puCK 3rd base for puCK
14:00 P 90 vs M 99 Colossus production started for puC 3rd base for MacSed 2nd robo for MacSed double colossus production for puCK Twilight council for MacSed
15:00 P 102 vs M 109 puCK sending his stalkers across the map +1 armor started for Macsed 2nd forge for MacSed double colossus production started for MacSed MacSed chases the stalkers of puCK away
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gate first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas fr MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both plyaers MSC for puCK stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed twilight council for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed
5:00 3rd gate for puCK Blink research started for puCK stalker skirmish in the middle of the map MSC of puCK is under attack timewarp on the stalkers of MacSed MacSed loses a stalker
6:00 Macsed gets a forward pylon down and kills off the MSC of puCK MSC of MacSed harassing puCK's mineral line stalkers moving into the main of puCK MacSed ahead 10 to 5 in stalker count
7:00 P 41 vs M 37 puCK pulls his probes MSC for puCK MacSed retreats to the ramp probe drill from puCK to surround a stalker but retreats into his main MacSed trying ot get a pylon up in puCK's base Robo for MacSed MacSed backs off sentry warped in for puCK
8:00 P 40 vs M 46 MSC rebuilding for MacSed Robo for puCK immortal started for MacSed
9:00 P 44 vs M 56 puCK ahead by 2 workers blink was canceled during the engagement earlier and is restarted now for puCK both players lose their forward pylon Nexus for MacSed observer for puCK
10:00 P 52 vs M 58 Nexus for puCK MacSed scouts the nexus with a zealot 2nd immortal for MacSed immortal production started for puCK
11:00 P 63 vs M 69 forge for puCK Robo bay for MacSed observer for MacSed forge for MacSed
12:00 P 70 vs M 74 +1 attack started for puCK Robo by for puCK Colossus production started for MacSed +1 attack started for MacSed
13:00 P 80 vs M 88 Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK Extended thermal lance research started for puCK 3rd base for puCK
14:00 P 90 vs M 99 Colossus production started for puC 3rd base for MacSed 2nd robo for MacSed double colossus production for puCK Twilight council for MacSed
15:00 P 102 vs M 109 puCK sending his stalkers across the map +1 armor started for Macsed 2nd forge for MacSed double colossus production started for MacSed MacSed chases the stalkers of puCK away
16:00 P 120 vs M 127 charge research for puCK +2 attack for MacSed +2 attack for puCK more gates for both players
17:00 P 133 vs M 143 Templar archives for MacSed Templar archives for puCK +2 armor for MacSed charge research for MacSed
18:00 P 151 vs M 150 2nd forge for puCK 4th base for Macsed Stalkers moving across the map for puCK again +1 armor started for puCK
19:00 P 167 vs M 171 puCK looks to harass the building 4th but MacSed chases him away puCK doesnt look at his stalkers and loses a bunch of them to the army of MacSed +3 attack on thew ay for MacSed archons for both players both players switch back to double immortal production 4th base for puCK
20:00 P 181 vs M 187 +3 attack for puCK Dark shrine for puCK +3 armor for MacSed
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gate first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas fr MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both plyaers MSC for puCK stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed twilight council for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed
5:00 3rd gate for puCK Blink research started for puCK stalker skirmish in the middle of the map MSC of puCK is under attack timewarp on the stalkers of MacSed MacSed loses a stalker
6:00 Macsed gets a forward pylon down and kills off the MSC of puCK MSC of MacSed harassing puCK's mineral line stalkers moving into the main of puCK MacSed ahead 10 to 5 in stalker count
7:00 P 41 vs M 37 puCK pulls his probes MSC for puCK MacSed retreats to the ramp probe drill from puCK to surround a stalker but retreats into his main MacSed trying ot get a pylon up in puCK's base Robo for MacSed MacSed backs off sentry warped in for puCK
8:00 P 40 vs M 46 MSC rebuilding for MacSed Robo for puCK immortal started for MacSed
9:00 P 44 vs M 56 puCK ahead by 2 workers blink was canceled during the engagement earlier and is restarted now for puCK both players lose their forward pylon Nexus for MacSed observer for puCK
10:00 P 52 vs M 58 Nexus for puCK MacSed scouts the nexus with a zealot 2nd immortal for MacSed immortal production started for puCK
11:00 P 63 vs M 69 forge for puCK Robo bay for MacSed observer for MacSed forge for MacSed
12:00 P 70 vs M 74 +1 attack started for puCK Robo by for puCK Colossus production started for MacSed +1 attack started for MacSed
13:00 P 80 vs M 88 Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK Extended thermal lance research started for puCK 3rd base for puCK
14:00 P 90 vs M 99 Colossus production started for puC 3rd base for MacSed 2nd robo for MacSed double colossus production for puCK Twilight council for MacSed
15:00 P 102 vs M 109 puCK sending his stalkers across the map +1 armor started for Macsed 2nd forge for MacSed double colossus production started for MacSed MacSed chases the stalkers of puCK away
16:00 P 120 vs M 127 charge research for puCK +2 attack for MacSed +2 attack for puCK more gates for both players
17:00 P 133 vs M 143 Templar archives for MacSed Templar archives for puCK +2 armor for MacSed charge research for MacSed
18:00 P 151 vs M 150 2nd forge for puCK 4th base for Macsed Stalkers moving across the map for puCK again +1 armor started for puCK
19:00 P 167 vs M 171 puCK looks to harass the building 4th but MacSed chases him away puCK doesnt look at his stalkers and loses a bunch of them to the army of MacSed +3 attack on thew ay for MacSed archons for both players both players switch back to double immortal production 4th base for puCK
20:00 P 181 vs M 187 +3 attack for puCK Dark shrine for puCK +3 armor for MacSed
21:00 P 193 vs M 199 +2 armor for puC 3 more gates for puCK even colossus count 1 more immortal for puCK 2 more archons for MacSed
22:00 P 199 vs M 200 +1 plasma shields for MacSed MacSed breaks down the rocks to puCK's 3rd MacSed sends his stalkers into the 3rd of puCK timewarp on hte army of MacSed puCK looks to engage timewarps from MacSed big engagement in the middle of the map
23:00 P 111 vs M 125 both players lose their gateway force colossi are trading blows a few more zealots are warped in for boht players MacSed loses his last colossus puCK loses his last colossus stalkers clean out the probes at the 3rd of puCK MacSed is ahead 20 workers
24:00 P 68 vs M 109 both players rebuilding colossi count more archons and zealots for puCK MSC rebuilt for puCK +2 plasma shields for MacSed
25:00 P 96 vs M 145 DT of puCK is killed in the middle of the map heading for the natural more archons and colossi for MacSed
bad move from macsed trying to harass at the third while fighting the big battle at the same time. That sort of moves usually lose you the game in PvP because winning the big fight is everything and having 20~ supply less there is huge. With his upgrade advantage he still got even and is ahead now but it would have lost him the game if he wasn't so far ahead. Bad PvP series, these guys seem to lack a proper understanding of the matchup and play so passive, not even warp prism harass..
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gate first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas fr MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both plyaers MSC for puCK stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed twilight council for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed
5:00 3rd gate for puCK Blink research started for puCK stalker skirmish in the middle of the map MSC of puCK is under attack timewarp on the stalkers of MacSed MacSed loses a stalker
6:00 Macsed gets a forward pylon down and kills off the MSC of puCK MSC of MacSed harassing puCK's mineral line stalkers moving into the main of puCK MacSed ahead 10 to 5 in stalker count
7:00 P 41 vs M 37 puCK pulls his probes MSC for puCK MacSed retreats to the ramp probe drill from puCK to surround a stalker but retreats into his main MacSed trying ot get a pylon up in puCK's base Robo for MacSed MacSed backs off sentry warped in for puCK
8:00 P 40 vs M 46 MSC rebuilding for MacSed Robo for puCK immortal started for MacSed
9:00 P 44 vs M 56 puCK ahead by 2 workers blink was canceled during the engagement earlier and is restarted now for puCK both players lose their forward pylon Nexus for MacSed observer for puCK
10:00 P 52 vs M 58 Nexus for puCK MacSed scouts the nexus with a zealot 2nd immortal for MacSed immortal production started for puCK
11:00 P 63 vs M 69 forge for puCK Robo bay for MacSed observer for MacSed forge for MacSed
12:00 P 70 vs M 74 +1 attack started for puCK Robo by for puCK Colossus production started for MacSed +1 attack started for MacSed
13:00 P 80 vs M 88 Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK Extended thermal lance research started for puCK 3rd base for puCK
14:00 P 90 vs M 99 Colossus production started for puC 3rd base for MacSed 2nd robo for MacSed double colossus production for puCK Twilight council for MacSed
15:00 P 102 vs M 109 puCK sending his stalkers across the map +1 armor started for Macsed 2nd forge for MacSed double colossus production started for MacSed MacSed chases the stalkers of puCK away
16:00 P 120 vs M 127 charge research for puCK +2 attack for MacSed +2 attack for puCK more gates for both players
17:00 P 133 vs M 143 Templar archives for MacSed Templar archives for puCK +2 armor for MacSed charge research for MacSed
18:00 P 151 vs M 150 2nd forge for puCK 4th base for Macsed Stalkers moving across the map for puCK again +1 armor started for puCK
19:00 P 167 vs M 171 puCK looks to harass the building 4th but MacSed chases him away puCK doesnt look at his stalkers and loses a bunch of them to the army of MacSed +3 attack on thew ay for MacSed archons for both players both players switch back to double immortal production 4th base for puCK
20:00 P 181 vs M 187 +3 attack for puCK Dark shrine for puCK +3 armor for MacSed
21:00 P 193 vs M 199 +2 armor for puC 3 more gates for puCK even colossus count 1 more immortal for puCK 2 more archons for MacSed
22:00 P 199 vs M 200 +1 plasma shields for MacSed MacSed breaks down the rocks to puCK's 3rd MacSed sends his stalkers into the 3rd of puCK timewarp on hte army of MacSed puCK looks to engage timewarps from MacSed big engagement in the middle of the map
23:00 P 111 vs M 125 both players lose their gateway force colossi are trading blows a few more zealots are warped in for boht players MacSed loses his last colossus puCK loses his last colossus stalkers clean out the probes at the 3rd of puCK MacSed is ahead 20 workers
24:00 P 68 vs M 109 both players rebuilding colossi count more archons and zealots for puCK MSC rebuilt for puCK +2 plasma shields for MacSed
25:00 P 96 vs M 145 DT of puCK is killed in the middle of the map heading for the natural more archons and colossi for MacSed
26:00 P 140 vs M 199 MacSed moving out as he remaxes
27:00 P 154 vs M 199 MacSed moving towards the 4th of puCK zealots sent into the 4th of puCK while the main army waits behind puCK sends his whole army to his 4th something harassing the 3rd of puCK off screen puCK cleans up the harass at both bases
28:00 P 178 vs M 189 zealot runby to the 3rd of puCK puCK cleans it up MacSed going up to 14 archons
29:00 P 195 vs M 198 another zealot runby to the 4th of puCK is defended by zealots and cannons feedback on the msc of puCK kills it Dark shrine for MacSed both players with double digit archons +3 plasma shields for MacSed
30:00 P 196 vs M 184 engagement at the bottom of puCK's natural ramp timewarps from MacSed puCK's army is pushed back into his natural DTs warped in for puCK to defend observers of MacSed are out of range and the colossi are starting to fall cannons kill the observers MacSed has no observer with his army puCK has 5 colossi still
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gate first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas fr MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both plyaers MSC for puCK stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed twilight council for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed
5:00 3rd gate for puCK Blink research started for puCK stalker skirmish in the middle of the map MSC of puCK is under attack timewarp on the stalkers of MacSed MacSed loses a stalker
6:00 Macsed gets a forward pylon down and kills off the MSC of puCK MSC of MacSed harassing puCK's mineral line stalkers moving into the main of puCK MacSed ahead 10 to 5 in stalker count
7:00 P 41 vs M 37 puCK pulls his probes MSC for puCK MacSed retreats to the ramp probe drill from puCK to surround a stalker but retreats into his main MacSed trying ot get a pylon up in puCK's base Robo for MacSed MacSed backs off sentry warped in for puCK
8:00 P 40 vs M 46 MSC rebuilding for MacSed Robo for puCK immortal started for MacSed
9:00 P 44 vs M 56 puCK ahead by 2 workers blink was canceled during the engagement earlier and is restarted now for puCK both players lose their forward pylon Nexus for MacSed observer for puCK
10:00 P 52 vs M 58 Nexus for puCK MacSed scouts the nexus with a zealot 2nd immortal for MacSed immortal production started for puCK
11:00 P 63 vs M 69 forge for puCK Robo bay for MacSed observer for MacSed forge for MacSed
12:00 P 70 vs M 74 +1 attack started for puCK Robo by for puCK Colossus production started for MacSed +1 attack started for MacSed
13:00 P 80 vs M 88 Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK Extended thermal lance research started for puCK 3rd base for puCK
14:00 P 90 vs M 99 Colossus production started for puC 3rd base for MacSed 2nd robo for MacSed double colossus production for puCK Twilight council for MacSed
15:00 P 102 vs M 109 puCK sending his stalkers across the map +1 armor started for Macsed 2nd forge for MacSed double colossus production started for MacSed MacSed chases the stalkers of puCK away
16:00 P 120 vs M 127 charge research for puCK +2 attack for MacSed +2 attack for puCK more gates for both players
17:00 P 133 vs M 143 Templar archives for MacSed Templar archives for puCK +2 armor for MacSed charge research for MacSed
18:00 P 151 vs M 150 2nd forge for puCK 4th base for Macsed Stalkers moving across the map for puCK again +1 armor started for puCK
19:00 P 167 vs M 171 puCK looks to harass the building 4th but MacSed chases him away puCK doesnt look at his stalkers and loses a bunch of them to the army of MacSed +3 attack on thew ay for MacSed archons for both players both players switch back to double immortal production 4th base for puCK
20:00 P 181 vs M 187 +3 attack for puCK Dark shrine for puCK +3 armor for MacSed
21:00 P 193 vs M 199 +2 armor for puC 3 more gates for puCK even colossus count 1 more immortal for puCK 2 more archons for MacSed
22:00 P 199 vs M 200 +1 plasma shields for MacSed MacSed breaks down the rocks to puCK's 3rd MacSed sends his stalkers into the 3rd of puCK timewarp on hte army of MacSed puCK looks to engage timewarps from MacSed big engagement in the middle of the map
23:00 P 111 vs M 125 both players lose their gateway force colossi are trading blows a few more zealots are warped in for boht players MacSed loses his last colossus puCK loses his last colossus stalkers clean out the probes at the 3rd of puCK MacSed is ahead 20 workers
24:00 P 68 vs M 109 both players rebuilding colossi count more archons and zealots for puCK MSC rebuilt for puCK +2 plasma shields for MacSed
25:00 P 96 vs M 145 DT of puCK is killed in the middle of the map heading for the natural more archons and colossi for MacSed
26:00 P 140 vs M 199 MacSed moving out as he remaxes
27:00 P 154 vs M 199 MacSed moving towards the 4th of puCK zealots sent into the 4th of puCK while the main army waits behind puCK sends his whole army to his 4th something harassing the 3rd of puCK off screen puCK cleans up the harass at both bases
28:00 P 178 vs M 189 zealot runby to the 3rd of puCK puCK cleans it up MacSed going up to 14 archons
29:00 P 195 vs M 198 another zealot runby to the 4th of puCK is defended by zealots and cannons feedback on the msc of puCK kills it Dark shrine for MacSed both players with double digit archons +3 plasma shields for MacSed
30:00 P 196 vs M 184 engagement at the bottom of puCK's natural ramp timewarps from MacSed puCK's army is pushed back into his natural DTs warped in for puCK to defend observers of MacSed are out of range and the colossi are starting to fall cannons kill the observers MacSed has no observer with his army puCK has 5 colossi still
31:00 P 139 vs M 94 puCK counter attacking as Macsed tries to retreat zealot warp in runby to the 3rd of puCK both players rebuilding colossi zealots warped in at hoem for puCK to defend
32:00 P 161 vs M 126 puCK sends his army home to clean up the zealots MSC rebuilding for puCK 5th base for MacSed
33:00 P 167 vs M 129 puCK moving out now puCK ahead by 40 army supply engagement outside Macsed's natural timewarp from puCK on the army of MacSed MacSed retreating into his natral
34:00 P 121 vs M 89 Macsed is out of gateway units puCK is in the natural of MacSed killing gateways and a robo now 1 robo of Macsed falls 4 colossi vs 4 colossi both players scrambling for reinforcements
35:00 P 117 vs M 82 observer of MacSed are killed off 4 more archons for Macsed puCK attacking the 5th of MacSed engagement at the 5th of MacSed zealot flank from puC
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gate first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas fr MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both plyaers MSC for puCK stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed twilight council for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed
5:00 3rd gate for puCK Blink research started for puCK stalker skirmish in the middle of the map MSC of puCK is under attack timewarp on the stalkers of MacSed MacSed loses a stalker
6:00 Macsed gets a forward pylon down and kills off the MSC of puCK MSC of MacSed harassing puCK's mineral line stalkers moving into the main of puCK MacSed ahead 10 to 5 in stalker count
7:00 P 41 vs M 37 puCK pulls his probes MSC for puCK MacSed retreats to the ramp probe drill from puCK to surround a stalker but retreats into his main MacSed trying ot get a pylon up in puCK's base Robo for MacSed MacSed backs off sentry warped in for puCK
8:00 P 40 vs M 46 MSC rebuilding for MacSed Robo for puCK immortal started for MacSed
9:00 P 44 vs M 56 puCK ahead by 2 workers blink was canceled during the engagement earlier and is restarted now for puCK both players lose their forward pylon Nexus for MacSed observer for puCK
10:00 P 52 vs M 58 Nexus for puCK MacSed scouts the nexus with a zealot 2nd immortal for MacSed immortal production started for puCK
11:00 P 63 vs M 69 forge for puCK Robo bay for MacSed observer for MacSed forge for MacSed
12:00 P 70 vs M 74 +1 attack started for puCK Robo by for puCK Colossus production started for MacSed +1 attack started for MacSed
13:00 P 80 vs M 88 Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed 2nd robo for puCK Extended thermal lance research started for puCK 3rd base for puCK
14:00 P 90 vs M 99 Colossus production started for puC 3rd base for MacSed 2nd robo for MacSed double colossus production for puCK Twilight council for MacSed
15:00 P 102 vs M 109 puCK sending his stalkers across the map +1 armor started for Macsed 2nd forge for MacSed double colossus production started for MacSed MacSed chases the stalkers of puCK away
16:00 P 120 vs M 127 charge research for puCK +2 attack for MacSed +2 attack for puCK more gates for both players
17:00 P 133 vs M 143 Templar archives for MacSed Templar archives for puCK +2 armor for MacSed charge research for MacSed
18:00 P 151 vs M 150 2nd forge for puCK 4th base for Macsed Stalkers moving across the map for puCK again +1 armor started for puCK
19:00 P 167 vs M 171 puCK looks to harass the building 4th but MacSed chases him away puCK doesnt look at his stalkers and loses a bunch of them to the army of MacSed +3 attack on thew ay for MacSed archons for both players both players switch back to double immortal production 4th base for puCK
20:00 P 181 vs M 187 +3 attack for puCK Dark shrine for puCK +3 armor for MacSed
21:00 P 193 vs M 199 +2 armor for puC 3 more gates for puCK even colossus count 1 more immortal for puCK 2 more archons for MacSed
22:00 P 199 vs M 200 +1 plasma shields for MacSed MacSed breaks down the rocks to puCK's 3rd MacSed sends his stalkers into the 3rd of puCK timewarp on hte army of MacSed puCK looks to engage timewarps from MacSed big engagement in the middle of the map
23:00 P 111 vs M 125 both players lose their gateway force colossi are trading blows a few more zealots are warped in for boht players MacSed loses his last colossus puCK loses his last colossus stalkers clean out the probes at the 3rd of puCK MacSed is ahead 20 workers
24:00 P 68 vs M 109 both players rebuilding colossi count more archons and zealots for puCK MSC rebuilt for puCK +2 plasma shields for MacSed
25:00 P 96 vs M 145 DT of puCK is killed in the middle of the map heading for the natural more archons and colossi for MacSed
26:00 P 140 vs M 199 MacSed moving out as he remaxes
27:00 P 154 vs M 199 MacSed moving towards the 4th of puCK zealots sent into the 4th of puCK while the main army waits behind puCK sends his whole army to his 4th something harassing the 3rd of puCK off screen puCK cleans up the harass at both bases
28:00 P 178 vs M 189 zealot runby to the 3rd of puCK puCK cleans it up MacSed going up to 14 archons
29:00 P 195 vs M 198 another zealot runby to the 4th of puCK is defended by zealots and cannons feedback on the msc of puCK kills it Dark shrine for MacSed both players with double digit archons +3 plasma shields for MacSed
30:00 P 196 vs M 184 engagement at the bottom of puCK's natural ramp timewarps from MacSed puCK's army is pushed back into his natural DTs warped in for puCK to defend observers of MacSed are out of range and the colossi are starting to fall cannons kill the observers MacSed has no observer with his army puCK has 5 colossi still
31:00 P 139 vs M 94 puCK counter attacking as Macsed tries to retreat zealot warp in runby to the 3rd of puCK both players rebuilding colossi zealots warped in at hoem for puCK to defend
32:00 P 161 vs M 126 puCK sends his army home to clean up the zealots MSC rebuilding for puCK 5th base for MacSed
33:00 P 167 vs M 129 puCK moving out now puCK ahead by 40 army supply engagement outside Macsed's natural timewarp from puCK on the army of MacSed MacSed retreating into his natral
34:00 P 121 vs M 89 Macsed is out of gateway units puCK is in the natural of MacSed killing gateways and a robo now 1 robo of Macsed falls 4 colossi vs 4 colossi both players scrambling for reinforcements
35:00 P 117 vs M 82 observer of MacSed are killed off 4 more archons for Macsed puCK attacking the 5th of MacSed engagement at the 5th of MacSed zealot flank from puC
36:00 P 118 vs M 80 MacSed retreats to his natural 5th base of MacSed is killed off Macsed comes over and engages again puCK's army is too large Macsed is forced back again puCK starts to retreat 5th base finishes for puCK
37:00 P 128 vs M 79 puCK regrouping at a pylon engagement near the former 5th of MacSed MacSed has no gateway support MacSed loses his colossi MacSed ggs! puCK wins the series 2-1!
On July 24 2013 08:15 stuchiu wrote: Amazing throw, good catch.
Yeah I think this about sums it up. Normally I hate throwing the word "throw" around but this time it's really the only word for it -____- And yeah, good catch by puck with the DTs lol.
1am but 2 liters of energy drinks keep me awake since nasl makes wcs its no outletting of NA possible like it was with mlg times fuck to good casters to sleep xD
On July 24 2013 08:15 stuchiu wrote: Amazing throw, good catch.
Yeah I think this about sums it up. Normally I hate throwing the word "throw" around but this time it's really the only word for it -____- And yeah, good catch by puck with the DTs lol.
On July 24 2013 08:15 stuchiu wrote: Amazing throw, good catch.
Yeah I think this about sums it up. Normally I hate throwing the word "throw" around but this time it's really the only word for it -____- And yeah, good catch by puck with the DTs lol.
DTs in the outfield.
Bahahaha T.T I wanted macsed to win too, but that was just....no.
On July 24 2013 08:19 StarVe wrote: This was such a HuK-ish game.
Hah!
*Nice control by puck btw. DTs are proving to be the strongest in PvP it seems. Allows you to challenge your opponents multitask and it's a pretty strong Hail Mary in the big fights.
Terrible mistakes by Macsed throwing away a won game.
Get's ahead quite a big because puck throws away 10 stalkers and goes single forge vs double forge in a strange WoL like double robo game. Then Macsed fails to win with his first 200/200 fight because he has stalkers harassing the 3rd during that fight. Still super far ahead afterwards because the fight was even and he is in a big economic lead. Instead of attacking directly around 180-190 pop he goes up to 200 afterwards and gives puck the time to get there too.. Poor positioning in fight has him doing poorly but he still seems to edge it out based on bigger bank and better upgrades but loses observers to sloppy control and 4 dt nudge the fight towards puck...
Macsed just learn to push right at 200/200, not get there first, slowly move towards your opponent, wait for proxy pylon and only then attack with even poor positioning. Better yet if you're ahead just mix in tempests.. You avoid the slight gamble that are colossi wars where you can even lose if you're far ahead..
On July 24 2013 08:25 Shellshock1122 wrote: Huh. I never realized how poor puCK's PvP was rated compared to his other matchups http://www.aligulac.com/players/317-puCK/ pretty big win for him
Well it's clear THEY (LOOK AT HOW CORRECT I AM) go for the late game and seeing as it's America 99.9% of those losses are probably cannon rushes
On July 24 2013 08:25 Shellshock1122 wrote: Huh. I never realized how poor puCK's PvP was rated compared to his other matchups http://www.aligulac.com/players/317-puCK/ pretty big win for him
Well it's clear he goes for the late game and seeing as it's America 99.9% of those losses are probably cannon rushes
On July 24 2013 08:25 Shellshock1122 wrote: Huh. I never realized how poor puCK's PvP was rated compared to his other matchups http://www.aligulac.com/players/317-puCK/ pretty big win for him
Well it's clear he goes for the late game and seeing as it's America 99.9% of those losses are probably cannon rushes
Yeah that was a horrible horrible game from macsed, but really, I just watched the tefel gave everyone's been talking about and hooooly smoke that was just horribly bad.
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom left Jaedong spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for Snute Hatch first for Jaedong gas for Jaedong Hatch for Snute pool for Jaedong
3:00 gas for Snute ling speed for Jaedong
4:00 Jaedong making a couple of lings after his initial 2 scouting lings baneling nest for Snute
5:00 Jaedong making 20 more lings as speed gets close to finishing defensive banelings started for Snute gas for Snute
6:00 speedlings enter the natural of Snute Snute uses his 2 banes and there are tons of lings out queens of sute are dead drones fleeing to the main baneling nest for Jaedong spine for Snute 4 more banes morping for snute
7:00 S 23 v J 51 another gas for Jaedong Snute losing more lings and drones Snute ferrying his drones back and forth between the main and natural Snute ggs! Jaedong wins game 1!
Today all four players decided that they will show the absolute worst, most cancerous, esports ruining games that expose every shitty aspect of the match ups. Except 4-6 one hour plus swamhost turtle fests in the pipeline for winner/losers
On July 24 2013 08:33 Fusilero wrote: Today all four players decided that they will show the absolute worst, most cancerous, esports ruining games that expose every shitty aspect of the match ups. Except 4-6 one hour plus swamhost turtle fests in the pipeline for winner/losers
A treaty to reenact WoL infestor brood lord vs Protoss death ball but they are allowed 2 tempests to compensate for lack of vortex
On July 24 2013 08:33 Fusilero wrote: Today all four players decided that they will show the absolute worst, most cancerous, esports ruining games that expose every shitty aspect of the match ups. Except 4-6 one hour plus swamhost turtle fests in the pipeline for winner/losers
A treaty to reenact WoL infestor brood lord vs Protoss death ball but they are allowed 2 tempests to compensate for lack of vortex
also, one game of voidray colossi vs roach hydra on tal darim
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom left Jaedong spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for Snute Hatch first for Jaedong gas for Jaedong Hatch for Snute pool for Jaedong
3:00 gas for Snute ling speed for Jaedong
4:00 Jaedong making a couple of lings after his initial 2 scouting lings baneling nest for Snute
5:00 Jaedong making 20 more lings as speed gets close to finishing defensive banelings started for Snute gas for Snute
6:00 speedlings enter the natural of Snute Snute uses his 2 banes and there are tons of lings out queens of sute are dead drones fleeing to the main baneling nest for Jaedong spine for Snute 4 more banes morping for snute
7:00 S 23 v J 51 another gas for Jaedong Snute losing more lings and drones Snute ferrying his drones back and forth between the main and natural Snute ggs! Jaedong wins game 1!
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom left Jaedong spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for Snute hatch first for Jaedong pool for Jaedong hatch for Snute gas for Jaedong
3:00 gas for Snute
4:00 drones and queens
5:00 queens of Jaedong kill off an overlord 3 more gas for Snute evo for Snute Lair for Snute 3rd base for Jaedong another gas for Jaedong
6:00 Snute picks off an overlord of Jaedong Lair for Jaedong Roach warren for Snute Roach warren for Jaedong +1 range attack for Snute evo for Jaedong Snute scouts the 3rd of Jaedong
7:00 S 52 vs J 51 +1 range attack for Jaedong Snute kills a 2nd overlord Roach speed for Snute roaches started for Snute Roach speed for Jaedong roaches started for Jaedong Snute makes a few lings but he doesnt have speed
8:00 S 82 vs J 79 roach slow ling attack at the 3rd of Jaedong 3rd for Snute Jaedong has enough roaches out to defend and manages to save his queen Snute has to retreat with his roaches
9:00 S 92 vs J 100 +2 range attack started for Snute Snute looking to pressure at the 3rd again but sees the number of roaches Jaedong has out and backs off
10:00 S 120 vs J 127 +2 range attack started for Jaedong contaminate on the evo chamber of Snute both players just adding in more roaches Jaedong is ahead 55 to 52 drones
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom left Jaedong spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for Snute hatch first for Jaedong pool for Jaedong hatch for Snute gas for Jaedong
3:00 gas for Snute
4:00 drones and queens
5:00 queens of Jaedong kill off an overlord 3 more gas for Snute evo for Snute Lair for Snute 3rd base for Jaedong another gas for Jaedong
6:00 Snute picks off an overlord of Jaedong Lair for Jaedong Roach warren for Snute Roach warren for Jaedong +1 range attack for Snute evo for Jaedong Snute scouts the 3rd of Jaedong
7:00 S 52 vs J 51 +1 range attack for Jaedong Snute kills a 2nd overlord Roach speed for Snute roaches started for Snute Roach speed for Jaedong roaches started for Jaedong Snute makes a few lings but he doesnt have speed
8:00 S 82 vs J 79 roach slow ling attack at the 3rd of Jaedong 3rd for Snute Jaedong has enough roaches out to defend and manages to save his queen Snute has to retreat with his roaches
9:00 S 92 vs J 100 +2 range attack started for Snute Snute looking to pressure at the 3rd again but sees the number of roaches Jaedong has out and backs off
10:00 S 120 vs J 127 +2 range attack started for Jaedong contaminate on the evo chamber of Snute both players just adding in more roaches Jaedong is ahead 55 to 52 drones
11:00 S 160 vs J 165 Jaedong killing some creep with an overseer and a few roaches roach count is 51 vs 52 in jaedong's favor Hydralisk den for Snute
12:00 S 178 vs J 187 Jaedong moving onto Snute's side of the map but backs off when he sees Snute's roach army waiting burrow research started for Jaedong Hydras started for Snute Hydra range for Snute spines started for Snute
13:00 S 194 vs J 198 Hydralisk den for Jaedong +1 carapace for Jaedong spines started for Jaedong Hydra range for Jaedong roach runby intot he natural of Snute roaches move intot he main Jaedong looks to attack the 3rd at the same time but Snute doesnt bite
14:00 S 197 vs J 196 Snute starts chasing Jaedong back across the map Jaedong sets up a defense at his 3rd Snute attacks into the 3rd of Jaedong spines are in range of the fight to help Jaedong
15:00 S 151 v J 131 Jaedong's reinforcements start spawning and push Snute back both players making a bunch of roaches Hydra speed for Jaedong
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom left Jaedong spawns in the top right
2:00 pool first for Snute hatch first for Jaedong pool for Jaedong hatch for Snute gas for Jaedong
3:00 gas for Snute
4:00 drones and queens
5:00 queens of Jaedong kill off an overlord 3 more gas for Snute evo for Snute Lair for Snute 3rd base for Jaedong another gas for Jaedong
6:00 Snute picks off an overlord of Jaedong Lair for Jaedong Roach warren for Snute Roach warren for Jaedong +1 range attack for Snute evo for Jaedong Snute scouts the 3rd of Jaedong
7:00 S 52 vs J 51 +1 range attack for Jaedong Snute kills a 2nd overlord Roach speed for Snute roaches started for Snute Roach speed for Jaedong roaches started for Jaedong Snute makes a few lings but he doesnt have speed
8:00 S 82 vs J 79 roach slow ling attack at the 3rd of Jaedong 3rd for Snute Jaedong has enough roaches out to defend and manages to save his queen Snute has to retreat with his roaches
9:00 S 92 vs J 100 +2 range attack started for Snute Snute looking to pressure at the 3rd again but sees the number of roaches Jaedong has out and backs off
10:00 S 120 vs J 127 +2 range attack started for Jaedong contaminate on the evo chamber of Snute both players just adding in more roaches Jaedong is ahead 55 to 52 drones
11:00 S 160 vs J 165 Jaedong killing some creep with an overseer and a few roaches roach count is 51 vs 52 in jaedong's favor Hydralisk den for Snute
12:00 S 178 vs J 187 Jaedong moving onto Snute's side of the map but backs off when he sees Snute's roach army waiting burrow research started for Jaedong Hydras started for Snute Hydra range for Snute spines started for Snute
13:00 S 194 vs J 198 Hydralisk den for Jaedong +1 carapace for Jaedong spines started for Jaedong Hydra range for Jaedong roach runby intot he natural of Snute roaches move intot he main Jaedong looks to attack the 3rd at the same time but Snute doesnt bite
14:00 S 197 vs J 196 Snute starts chasing Jaedong back across the map Jaedong sets up a defense at his 3rd Snute attacks into the 3rd of Jaedong spines are in range of the fight to help Jaedong
15:00 S 151 v J 131 Jaedong's reinforcements start spawning and push Snute back both players making a bunch of roaches Hydra speed for Jaedong
16:00 S 165 vs J 161 both players building up another roach hydra army hydras of Jaedong swinging around the top lane killing off overlords Snute moving through the bottom lane
17:00 S 189 vs J 183 engagement at the 3rd of Jaedong Jaedong is able to push Snute back easily with a better defensive position Snute is losing everything Snute ggs! Jaedong wins 2-0!
And this is why I hate MSL style groups. If one player has a bad or good match-up, it has the potential to lead to really bizarre results if the opening match-ups pit the two best players on paper against each other..
On July 24 2013 08:50 GenesisX wrote: now he just has to not lose to puck please jaedong
Well if jaedong can identify which all in is coming I think he'll hold possibly. Really depends I can see that voidray/immortal all in puck likes to do beat jaedong cause I don't think anyone on korea does that ever.
Seems like Jaedong studied Snute before this match. Snute went for his, according to himself, "imba" +1 16 roach timing while securing his third. Jaedong did a perfect counterbuild, having just enough to hold off the attack without taking too much damage.
On July 24 2013 08:49 tree.hugger wrote: And this is why I hate MSL style groups. If one player has a bad or good match-up, it has the potential to lead to really bizarre results if the opening match-ups pit the two best players on paper against each other..
If I were to argue against this I would say that there aren't bizarre results, there are just results.
I hope puCK prepared some nice 2 base all ins. He might have a shot that way. Jaedong got crushed by Creator's in the IEM qualifiers and looked pretty lost against them and Creator hasn't exactly looked too good in HoTS
On July 24 2013 08:49 tree.hugger wrote: And this is why I hate MSL style groups. If one player has a bad or good match-up, it has the potential to lead to really bizarre results if the opening match-ups pit the two best players on paper against each other..
Where's that guy who always argues that GSL style groups are broken when you need him?
On July 24 2013 08:52 Shellshock1122 wrote: I hope puCK prepared some nice 2 base all ins. He might have a shot that way. Jaedong got crushed by Creator's in the IEM qualifiers and looked pretty lost against them and Creator hasn't exactly looked too good in HoTS
On July 24 2013 08:49 tree.hugger wrote: And this is why I hate MSL style groups. If one player has a bad or good match-up, it has the potential to lead to really bizarre results if the opening match-ups pit the two best players on paper against each other..
Where's that guy who always argues that GSL style groups are broken when you need him?
He will only show up if puCK somehow beats Jaedong and then Snute beats Jaedong 2-1 in the final series. Then he will be like OMG BUT JAEDONG WAS 3-2 VS SNUTE THIS IS BULLSHIT
On July 24 2013 08:52 Shellshock1122 wrote: I hope puCK prepared some nice 2 base all ins. He might have a shot that way. Jaedong got crushed by Creator's in the IEM qualifiers and looked pretty lost against them and Creator hasn't exactly looked too good in HoTS
I thought puCK only did all ins.
Maybe. Can't say I'm overly familiar with his PvZ but he did manage to beat HyuN in the WCS AM qualifiers so I guess there's a shot even if it's not very large
On July 24 2013 08:49 tree.hugger wrote: And this is why I hate MSL style groups. If one player has a bad or good match-up, it has the potential to lead to really bizarre results if the opening match-ups pit the two best players on paper against each other..
Where's that guy who always argues that GSL style groups are broken when you need him?
He will only show up if puCK somehow beats Jaedong and then Snute beats Jaedong 2-1 in the final series. Then he will be like OMG BUT JAEDONG WAS 3-2 VS SNUTE THIS IS BULLSHIT
On July 24 2013 08:52 Shellshock1122 wrote: I hope puCK prepared some nice 2 base all ins. He might have a shot that way. Jaedong got crushed by Creator's in the IEM qualifiers and looked pretty lost against them and Creator hasn't exactly looked too good in HoTS
I thought puCK only did all ins.
Maybe. Can't say I'm overly familiar with his PvZ but he did manage to beat HyuN in the WCS AM qualifiers so I guess there's a shot even if it's not very large
Or if MacSed (is that who's playing, I don't recall, I missed the first match), beats puCK 2-1.
0:00 Jaedong spawns in the bottom right puCK spawns in the top left
2:00 pool first for Jaedong Jaedong sends 2 drones out to chase the blocking probe away hatch for Jaedong Nexus first for puCK forge for puCK
3:00 gateway for puCK cannon for puCK
4:00 double gas for puCK 3rd base for Jaedong Cybernetics core for puCK
5:00 2 more gas for puCK double gas for Jaedong +1 attack started for puCK
6:00 robo for puCK Lair for Jaedong Roach warren for Jaedong evo for Jaedong
7:00 66 vs 56 ling speed for Jaedong 2 more gas for Jaedong 4 more gates for puCK warp prism for puCK overlord scouts all the gates of puCK MSC for puCK +1 range attack for Jaedong Twilight council for puCK
8:00 75 vs 64 macro hatch for Jaedong immortal production started for puCK Hydra den for Jaedong Roach speed for Jaedong 2 more gates for puCK blink research started for puCK +2 attack started for puCK a few roaches started for Jaedong
9:00 91 vs 80 Hydra range for Jaedong Hydras started for aedong zealot drop in the main of Jaedong kills the queens and is evacuated warp prism moves to the natural and drops zealots on the queen warp prism is killed off as Hydras spawn 2 hydras fall to the zealots and a few drones
10:00 111 vs 81 2 more gates for puCK more hydras and roaches coming out for Jaedong overseer scouts the 2 bases of puCK puCK starting to move across the map
0:00 Jaedong spawns in the bottom right puCK spawns in the top left
2:00 pool first for Jaedong Jaedong sends 2 drones out to chase the blocking probe away hatch for Jaedong Nexus first for puCK forge for puCK
3:00 gateway for puCK cannon for puCK
4:00 double gas for puCK 3rd base for Jaedong Cybernetics core for puCK
5:00 2 more gas for puCK double gas for Jaedong +1 attack started for puCK
6:00 robo for puCK Lair for Jaedong Roach warren for Jaedong evo for Jaedong
7:00 66 vs 56 ling speed for Jaedong 2 more gas for Jaedong 4 more gates for puCK warp prism for puCK overlord scouts all the gates of puCK MSC for puCK +1 range attack for Jaedong Twilight council for puCK
8:00 75 vs 64 macro hatch for Jaedong immortal production started for puCK Hydra den for Jaedong Roach speed for Jaedong 2 more gates for puCK blink research started for puCK +2 attack started for puCK a few roaches started for Jaedong
9:00 91 vs 80 Hydra range for Jaedong Hydras started for aedong zealot drop in the main of Jaedong kills the queens and is evacuated warp prism moves to the natural and drops zealots on the queen warp prism is killed off as Hydras spawn 2 hydras fall to the zealots and a few drones
10:00 111 vs 81 2 more gates for puCK more hydras and roaches coming out for Jaedong overseer scouts the 2 bases of puCK puCK starting to move across the map
11:00 153 vs 108 Jaedong comes out to meet puCK and baits some forcefields out +2 range attack for Jaedong warp prism for puCK puCK moving around to attack the 3rd of Jaedong Jaedong setting up his defense Hydra speed for Jaedong puCK breaking down the rocks to Jaedong's 3rd
12:00 182 vs 126 puCK attacks int the 3rd timewarps dropped and forcefields used Jaedong is ofrced behind his mineral line drones at the 3rd are pulled more forcefields blocking out units puCK blinking his stalkers Jaedong rallying in more reinforcements
13:00 105 vs 110 puCK takes a supply lead Jaedong is forces away from his 3rd 3rd of Jaedong is killed Jaedong making a bunch of lings puCK starting to kill overlords but not enough to supply block Jaedong puCK warping in more stalkers and zealots and gearing up to attack the natural armies engage in the natural of Jaedong
14:00 102 vs 130 drones in the natural are pulled Jaedong is losing everything Jaedong ggs! puCK takes a 1-0 lead!
It was really bottled by Jaedong the moment he pushed 70% of his force into the mineral line from where puCK and control it with a single force field instead of 3+
On July 24 2013 09:14 Abominous wrote: It was really bottled by Jaedong the moment he pushed 70% of his force into the mineral line from where puCK and control it with a single force field instead of 3+
its still kind of silly that FF negate a 54 supply advantage
On July 24 2013 09:13 mordk wrote: Can't believe casters actually thought Puck was in a bad position
Wait, he wasn't? I found that victory borderline miraculous and brilliantly played by puCK.
Miraculous when he beat him so heavily? He had 20 stalkers when JDs first army and 3rd was lost.
No, when he first attacked with a severely delayed two base all in that was scouted, twice. Jaedong played that pretty poorly in terms of the engagement, running into his mineral line. I'd say puCK got pretty lucky that he did that, but played it brilliantly once Jaedong gave away that advantage.
On July 24 2013 09:14 Abominous wrote: It was really bottled by Jaedong the moment he pushed 70% of his force into the mineral line from where puCK and control it with a single force field instead of 3+
its still kind of silly that FF negate a 54 supply advantage
Which is 30 drones more and worse upgrades (and being a Z)
Dong was way to greedy vs a 2 base all in. 69 drones is a death sentence vs a player at your own skill level.
On July 24 2013 09:14 Abominous wrote: It was really bottled by Jaedong the moment he pushed 70% of his force into the mineral line from where puCK and control it with a single force field instead of 3+
its still kind of silly that FF negate a 54 supply advantage
Which is 30 drones more and worse upgrades (and being a Z)
Dong was way to greedy vs a 2 base all in. 69 drones is a death sentence vs a player at your own skill level.
On July 24 2013 09:15 Shellshock1122 wrote: if puCK gets out could he beat theognis's low vote count to advance in liquibets when theognis beat Jaedong?
On July 24 2013 09:13 mordk wrote: Can't believe casters actually thought Puck was in a bad position
Wait, he wasn't? I found that victory borderline miraculous and brilliantly played by puCK.
Miraculous when he beat him so heavily? He had 20 stalkers when JDs first army and 3rd was lost.
No, when he first attacked with a severely delayed two base all in that was scouted, twice. Jaedong played that pretty poorly in terms of the engagement, running into his mineral line. I'd say puCK got pretty lucky that he did that, but played it brilliantly once Jaedong gave away that advantage.
The 62 drones hurt Jaedong badly. He cut too early. If it was Yugioh or Stephano, they woul have just let the third die and wait.
On July 24 2013 09:15 Shellshock1122 wrote: if puCK gets out could he beat theognis's low vote count to advance in liquibets when theognis beat Jaedong?
That was like 89, it'd be quite the feat to get less votes than that.
On July 24 2013 09:13 mordk wrote: Can't believe casters actually thought Puck was in a bad position
Wait, he wasn't? I found that victory borderline miraculous and brilliantly played by puCK.
Miraculous when he beat him so heavily? He had 20 stalkers when JDs first army and 3rd was lost.
No, when he first attacked with a severely delayed two base all in that was scouted, twice. Jaedong played that pretty poorly in terms of the engagement, running into his mineral line. I'd say puCK got pretty lucky that he did that, but played it brilliantly once Jaedong gave away that advantage.
The 62 drones hurt Jaedong badly. He cut too early. If it was Yugioh or Stephano, they woul have just let the third die and wait.
I think he could have held that pretty easy had he sat around the rocks in a big arc and not run into his mineral line and up that ramp. He allowed puCK to get through the choke and then have the concave when he was allowed to force field. Not very well positioned by JD.
0:00 Jaedong spawns in the bottom right puCK spawns in the bottom left
2:00 pool first for Jaedong Nexus first for puCK hatch for Jaedong forge for puCK
3:00 gateway for puCK cannon for puCK
4:00 3rd base for Jaedong at the center right location double gas for puCK cybernetics core for puCK
5:00 zealot for puCK 2 more gas for puCK Jaedong breaking down the collapsible rocks to his 3rd double gas for Jaedong
6:00 Stargate for puCK Robo for puCK overlord scouts both tech structures
7:00 55 vs 50 +1 attack for puCK Lair for Jaedong 3rd gas for Jaedong evo for Jaedong Roach warren for Jaedong Void ray started for puCK ling speed for Jaedong 4th gas fro Jaedong immortal production started for puCK +1 range attack for Jaedong
8:00 69 vs 62 burrow research started for Jaedong MSC for puCK Roach speed for Jaedong void ray starting to kill overlords macro hatch for Jaedong a few roaches for Jaedong 2 more gates for puCK 2nd void ray for puCK
9:00 89 vs 75 2 more gates for puCK void ray and immortal production continuing more roaches for Jaedong lings started for Jaedong void rays killing more overlords
10:00 119 vs 87 void rays damaging roaches in the middle of the map Jaedong scouts no 3rd yet warp prism for puCK 3 more gates for puCK 8 gates for puCK in total puCK moving across the map Jaedong pumping out roaches +2 range attack started for Jaedong
0:00 Jaedong spawns in the bottom right puCK spawns in the bottom left
2:00 pool first for Jaedong Nexus first for puCK hatch for Jaedong forge for puCK
3:00 gateway for puCK cannon for puCK
4:00 3rd base for Jaedong at the center right location double gas for puCK cybernetics core for puCK
5:00 zealot for puCK 2 more gas for puCK Jaedong breaking down the collapsible rocks to his 3rd double gas for Jaedong
6:00 Stargate for puCK Robo for puCK overlord scouts both tech structures
7:00 55 vs 50 +1 attack for puCK Lair for Jaedong 3rd gas for Jaedong evo for Jaedong Roach warren for Jaedong Void ray started for puCK ling speed for Jaedong 4th gas fro Jaedong immortal production started for puCK +1 range attack for Jaedong
8:00 69 vs 62 burrow research started for Jaedong MSC for puCK Roach speed for Jaedong void ray starting to kill overlords macro hatch for Jaedong a few roaches for Jaedong 2 more gates for puCK 2nd void ray for puCK
9:00 89 vs 75 2 more gates for puCK void ray and immortal production continuing more roaches for Jaedong lings started for Jaedong void rays killing more overlords
10:00 119 vs 87 void rays damaging roaches in the middle of the map Jaedong scouts no 3rd yet warp prism for puCK 3 more gates for puCK 8 gates for puCK in total puCK moving across the map Jaedong pumping out roaches +2 range attack started for Jaedong
11:00 160 vs 110 some forcefields trap roaches and kill them roach runby into the main of puCK puCK attacking outside hte natural ramp of Jaedong forcefields were a little late timewarp on the army queens pulled to attack void rays puCK losing his ground army
12:00 127 vs 64 puCK loses all his gateway and robo forces queens chasing back void rays Hydralisk den for Jaedong Jaedong counter attacking puCK trying to add more cannons forcefield block the opening in his wall
13:00 127 vs 75 zealot warp in in the main of Jaedong from a warp prism queen kills the warp prism zealots of puCK are cleaned up 17 Hydras out for Jaedong now Hydra range finishing up for Jaedong 3rd base for puCK +1 carapace for Jaedong Jaedong ahead by 20 workers
14:00 168 vs 91 Hydra speed for Jaedong 4th base for Jaedong Spire for Jaedong void ray production restarted for puCK burrow ling near the 3rd of puCK keeps tabs on everything
15:00 191 vs 116 a few hydras in the main deny the warp prism of puCK Jaedong moving across the map photon overcharge on hte 3rd f puCK zealot drop in the main of Jaedong warp prism is killed Jaedong continuing to attack at the 3rd nexus of puCK falls
0:00 Jaedong spawns in the bottom right puCK spawns in the bottom left
2:00 pool first for Jaedong Nexus first for puCK hatch for Jaedong forge for puCK
3:00 gateway for puCK cannon for puCK
4:00 3rd base for Jaedong at the center right location double gas for puCK cybernetics core for puCK
5:00 zealot for puCK 2 more gas for puCK Jaedong breaking down the collapsible rocks to his 3rd double gas for Jaedong
6:00 Stargate for puCK Robo for puCK overlord scouts both tech structures
7:00 55 vs 50 +1 attack for puCK Lair for Jaedong 3rd gas for Jaedong evo for Jaedong Roach warren for Jaedong Void ray started for puCK ling speed for Jaedong 4th gas fro Jaedong immortal production started for puCK +1 range attack for Jaedong
8:00 69 vs 62 burrow research started for Jaedong MSC for puCK Roach speed for Jaedong void ray starting to kill overlords macro hatch for Jaedong a few roaches for Jaedong 2 more gates for puCK 2nd void ray for puCK
9:00 89 vs 75 2 more gates for puCK void ray and immortal production continuing more roaches for Jaedong lings started for Jaedong void rays killing more overlords
10:00 119 vs 87 void rays damaging roaches in the middle of the map Jaedong scouts no 3rd yet warp prism for puCK 3 more gates for puCK 8 gates for puCK in total puCK moving across the map Jaedong pumping out roaches +2 range attack started for Jaedong
11:00 160 vs 110 some forcefields trap roaches and kill them roach runby into the main of puCK puCK attacking outside hte natural ramp of Jaedong forcefields were a little late timewarp on the army queens pulled to attack void rays puCK losing his ground army
12:00 127 vs 64 puCK loses all his gateway and robo forces queens chasing back void rays Hydralisk den for Jaedong Jaedong counter attacking puCK trying to add more cannons forcefield block the opening in his wall
13:00 127 vs 75 zealot warp in in the main of Jaedong from a warp prism queen kills the warp prism zealots of puCK are cleaned up 17 Hydras out for Jaedong now Hydra range finishing up for Jaedong 3rd base for puCK +1 carapace for Jaedong Jaedong ahead by 20 workers
14:00 168 vs 91 Hydra speed for Jaedong 4th base for Jaedong Spire for Jaedong void ray production restarted for puCK burrow ling near the 3rd of puCK keeps tabs on everything
15:00 191 vs 116 a few hydras in the main deny the warp prism of puCK Jaedong moving across the map photon overcharge on hte 3rd f puCK zealot drop in the main of Jaedong warp prism is killed Jaedong continuing to attack at the 3rd nexus of puCK falls
16:00 151 vs 91 puCK loses most of his army and ggs! Jaedong ties it up 1-1!
On July 24 2013 09:26 Valikyr wrote: I'm so damn nervous every time I watch JvP lol.
I'm so sad to agree, can't imagine ever saying this in the BW days
end of BW it was like that for jaedong. He was losing to like every protoss and zerg, actually he just lost to everyone it felt like at the end of bw T_T.
0:00 Jaedong spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for Jaedong Hatch for Jaedong Nexus first for puCK forge for puCK
3:00 gateway for puCK cannon for puCK pylon block at the 3rd of Jaedong
4:00 3rd base for Jaedong double gas for puCK Cybernetics core for puCK
5:00 double gas for Jaedong 2 more gas for puCK +1 attack started for puCK
6:00 Robo for puCK overlords of Jaedong trying to scout the main of puCK the robo is spotted
7:00 Lair for Jaedong Roach warren for Jaedong evo for Jaedong 2 more gas for Jaedong 2 more gates for puCK warp prism for puCK MSC for puCK 2 more gates for puCK again
8:00 68 vs 58 twilight council for puCK Roach speed for Jaedong +1 range attack for Jaedong a few roaches started for Jaedong immortal production started for puCK macro hatch for Jaedong
9:00 90 vs 68 Hydralisk den for Jaedong Blink research started for puCK +2 attack started for puC hydra range for Jaedong Jaedong kills the probe looking to make a 3rd for puCK twice warp prism harass at the 3rd of Jaedong is chased away
10:00 114 vs 92 hydras starting to come out for Jaedong 3rd base for puCK overseer scouts the 3rd of puCK ling runby into the main of puCK puCK misses the forcefield and locks his own army out of the main
Still have no clue how these pros can keep a 3rd vs Z with a 9 min expo after FFE. They have 2 sentries, MSC and an immortal. When I do it anything aggression kills me
0:00 Jaedong spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for Jaedong Hatch for Jaedong Nexus first for puCK forge for puCK
3:00 gateway for puCK cannon for puCK pylon block at the 3rd of Jaedong
4:00 3rd base for Jaedong double gas for puCK Cybernetics core for puCK
5:00 double gas for Jaedong 2 more gas for puCK +1 attack started for puCK
6:00 Robo for puCK overlords of Jaedong trying to scout the main of puCK the robo is spotted
7:00 Lair for Jaedong Roach warren for Jaedong evo for Jaedong 2 more gas for Jaedong 2 more gates for puCK warp prism for puCK MSC for puCK 2 more gates for puCK again
8:00 68 vs 58 twilight council for puCK Roach speed for Jaedong +1 range attack for Jaedong a few roaches started for Jaedong immortal production started for puCK macro hatch for Jaedong
9:00 90 vs 68 Hydralisk den for Jaedong Blink research started for puCK +2 attack started for puC hydra range for Jaedong Jaedong kills the probe looking to make a 3rd for puCK twice warp prism harass at the 3rd of Jaedong is chased away
10:00 114 vs 92 hydras starting to come out for Jaedong 3rd base for puCK overseer scouts the 3rd of puCK ling runby into the main of puCK puCK misses the forcefield and locks his own army out of the main
11:00 124 vs 106 templar archives for puCK infestation pit for Jaedong +2 range attack for Jaedong hydra speed for Jaedong 4th base for Jaedong warp prism is denied again 3 more gates for puCK Hive started for Jaedong
12:00 151 vs 119 puCK starting to move out as +2 attack finishes Jaedong making more hydras and lings archon being added in for puCK 32 hydras for Jaedong in his army
13:00 187 vs 140 Jaedong setting up a flank by sending some units to the right side of the map armies engage outside Jaedong' bases hydras come in from behind and kill the warp prism more and more forcefields from puCK puCK has to retreat
14:00 156 vs 111 storm research started for puCK +1 carapace for Jaedong +3 attack started for puCK Vipers started for Jaedong warp prism for puCK
15:00 192 vs 143 another evo for Jaedong adrenal glands for Jaedong vipers gaining energy ultra cavern for Jaedong more extra evos for Jaedong +1 melee for Jaedong puCK moving out again
0:00 Jaedong spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for Jaedong Hatch for Jaedong Nexus first for puCK forge for puCK
3:00 gateway for puCK cannon for puCK pylon block at the 3rd of Jaedong
4:00 3rd base for Jaedong double gas for puCK Cybernetics core for puCK
5:00 double gas for Jaedong 2 more gas for puCK +1 attack started for puCK
6:00 Robo for puCK overlords of Jaedong trying to scout the main of puCK the robo is spotted
7:00 Lair for Jaedong Roach warren for Jaedong evo for Jaedong 2 more gas for Jaedong 2 more gates for puCK warp prism for puCK MSC for puCK 2 more gates for puCK again
8:00 68 vs 58 twilight council for puCK Roach speed for Jaedong +1 range attack for Jaedong a few roaches started for Jaedong immortal production started for puCK macro hatch for Jaedong
9:00 90 vs 68 Hydralisk den for Jaedong Blink research started for puCK +2 attack started for puC hydra range for Jaedong Jaedong kills the probe looking to make a 3rd for puCK twice warp prism harass at the 3rd of Jaedong is chased away
10:00 114 vs 92 hydras starting to come out for Jaedong 3rd base for puCK overseer scouts the 3rd of puCK ling runby into the main of puCK puCK misses the forcefield and locks his own army out of the main
11:00 124 vs 106 templar archives for puCK infestation pit for Jaedong +2 range attack for Jaedong hydra speed for Jaedong 4th base for Jaedong warp prism is denied again 3 more gates for puCK Hive started for Jaedong
12:00 151 vs 119 puCK starting to move out as +2 attack finishes Jaedong making more hydras and lings archon being added in for puCK 32 hydras for Jaedong in his army
13:00 187 vs 140 Jaedong setting up a flank by sending some units to the right side of the map armies engage outside Jaedong' bases hydras come in from behind and kill the warp prism more and more forcefields from puCK puCK has to retreat
14:00 156 vs 111 storm research started for puCK +1 carapace for Jaedong +3 attack started for puCK Vipers started for Jaedong warp prism for puCK
15:00 192 vs 143 another evo for Jaedong adrenal glands for Jaedong vipers gaining energy ultra cavern for Jaedong more extra evos for Jaedong +1 melee for Jaedong puCK moving out again
16:00 199 vs 148 armies engage blinding cloud from Jaedong storms from puCK abduct on the immortal Jaedong losing some rallying roaches 5th base for Jaedong puCK moving closer to the bases of Jaedong chitinous plating for Jaedong
17:00 181 vs 145 hydra vs blink staler fight +3 attack isnt done for puCK yet blinding cloud on the army of puCK Ultras started for Jaedong +2 carapace for Jaedong puCK retreats more vipers for Jaedong 4th base for puCK
18:00 187 vs 123 +3 range attack started for Jaedong Jaedong going up to 6 ultras charge research started for puCK warp prism for puC +1 armor for puCK zealots warped intot he main of Jaedong warp prism is taken out by queens ultra cleans up the zealots +2 melee for Jaedong
19:00 197 vs 141 immortal production for puCK puCK making a pylon wall in front of his army 2nd robo for puCK Spire for Jaedong Jaedong engageing puCK
20:00 171 vs 137 blinding cloud on the stalkers pylon wall falls ultras of Jaedong all fall puCK is able to push the attack back 9 ultras on the way for Jaedong 50 more lings for Jaedong double immortal production for puCK +3 carapace for Jaedong
0:00 Jaedong spawns in the top left puCK spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for Jaedong Hatch for Jaedong Nexus first for puCK forge for puCK
3:00 gateway for puCK cannon for puCK pylon block at the 3rd of Jaedong
4:00 3rd base for Jaedong double gas for puCK Cybernetics core for puCK
5:00 double gas for Jaedong 2 more gas for puCK +1 attack started for puCK
6:00 Robo for puCK overlords of Jaedong trying to scout the main of puCK the robo is spotted
7:00 Lair for Jaedong Roach warren for Jaedong evo for Jaedong 2 more gas for Jaedong 2 more gates for puCK warp prism for puCK MSC for puCK 2 more gates for puCK again
8:00 68 vs 58 twilight council for puCK Roach speed for Jaedong +1 range attack for Jaedong a few roaches started for Jaedong immortal production started for puCK macro hatch for Jaedong
9:00 90 vs 68 Hydralisk den for Jaedong Blink research started for puCK +2 attack started for puC hydra range for Jaedong Jaedong kills the probe looking to make a 3rd for puCK twice warp prism harass at the 3rd of Jaedong is chased away
10:00 114 vs 92 hydras starting to come out for Jaedong 3rd base for puCK overseer scouts the 3rd of puCK ling runby into the main of puCK puCK misses the forcefield and locks his own army out of the main
11:00 124 vs 106 templar archives for puCK infestation pit for Jaedong +2 range attack for Jaedong hydra speed for Jaedong 4th base for Jaedong warp prism is denied again 3 more gates for puCK Hive started for Jaedong
12:00 151 vs 119 puCK starting to move out as +2 attack finishes Jaedong making more hydras and lings archon being added in for puCK 32 hydras for Jaedong in his army
13:00 187 vs 140 Jaedong setting up a flank by sending some units to the right side of the map armies engage outside Jaedong' bases hydras come in from behind and kill the warp prism more and more forcefields from puCK puCK has to retreat
14:00 156 vs 111 storm research started for puCK +1 carapace for Jaedong +3 attack started for puCK Vipers started for Jaedong warp prism for puCK
15:00 192 vs 143 another evo for Jaedong adrenal glands for Jaedong vipers gaining energy ultra cavern for Jaedong more extra evos for Jaedong +1 melee for Jaedong puCK moving out again
16:00 199 vs 148 armies engage blinding cloud from Jaedong storms from puCK abduct on the immortal Jaedong losing some rallying roaches 5th base for Jaedong puCK moving closer to the bases of Jaedong chitinous plating for Jaedong
17:00 181 vs 145 hydra vs blink staler fight +3 attack isnt done for puCK yet blinding cloud on the army of puCK Ultras started for Jaedong +2 carapace for Jaedong puCK retreats more vipers for Jaedong 4th base for puCK
18:00 187 vs 123 +3 range attack started for Jaedong Jaedong going up to 6 ultras charge research started for puCK warp prism for puC +1 armor for puCK zealots warped intot he main of Jaedong warp prism is taken out by queens ultra cleans up the zealots +2 melee for Jaedong
19:00 197 vs 141 immortal production for puCK puCK making a pylon wall in front of his army 2nd robo for puCK Spire for Jaedong Jaedong engageing puCK
20:00 171 vs 137 blinding cloud on the stalkers pylon wall falls ultras of Jaedong all fall puCK is able to push the attack back 9 ultras on the way for Jaedong 50 more lings for Jaedong double immortal production for puCK +3 carapace for Jaedong
21:00 198 vs 145 another warp prism for puCK pathogen glands for Jaedong Greater spire for Jaedong +2 armor for puCK puCK looking to take a 5th but Jaedong attacks large ling runby ot the 4th of puCK 5th base started for puCK
22:00 183 vs 169 puCK's army is split up as the ultras move in 4th nexus of puCK falls abduct on some immortals more archons warping in immortals killing ultras Jaedong is forced back +3 melee for Jaedong 6 infestors started for Jaedong 4th base restarted for puCK
23:00 196 vs 145 Jaedong adding in more infestors and ultras +1 air attack started for Jaedong Dark shrine for puCK 6th for Jaedong ling runby ot the 5th of puCK main army of Jaedong attacking at the natural of puCK
24:00 169 vs 130 immortals are really good vs ultras lol Jaedong loses all ofh is ultras puCK chasing the infestors 5th of puCK was killed ling runby to the 4th of puCK
25:00 178 vs 148 4th of puCK is killed by lings puCK just counter attacking but Jaedong remxed on hydras storm on a few hydras blinding cloud on the army of puCK immortals not so good vs hydras puCK sending the remnants of his army into the natural of Jaedong another ultra is killed by immortals puCK ggs as his army falls Jaedong wins 2-1 and advances to the Ro16!
The game was fun and entertaining but it was also crappy play by Jaedong that made it exciting. Puck played well, but does that mean the game was a 5? Sure I'd recommend it to people who want a close game but not to anyone who wants to watch good play.
The game was fun and entertaining but it was also crappy play by Jaedong that made it exciting. Puck played well, but does that mean the game was a 5? Sure I'd recommend it to people who want a close game but not to anyone who wants to watch good play.
I prefer the yes/no/"if you have the time" options to be honest. 5 star system seem kind of too arbitrary
On July 24 2013 09:50 lichter wrote: Not even Jaedong can throw that far guys
I want to believe.
rooting against Jaedong is Forbidden.
I'm more curious about which progamer can throw the farthest. Looks like Tefel still King Quarterback
Tefel, MacSed, and Nestea have been invited to the all star game.
I think Bly wins. In a little watched game in the RSL, he had Bomber down to 0 SCVs and managed to lose the game. He had like 50 supply with at least 25 drones to Bomber's 16 supply of army.
Someone really needs to tell Mr.Bitters that DerilEECT is a fictional clothing line in a Ben Stiller movie, and derilICT is the state of the watcher on that map.
On July 24 2013 09:50 lichter wrote: Not even Jaedong can throw that far guys
I want to believe.
rooting against Jaedong is Forbidden.
I'm more curious about which progamer can throw the farthest. Looks like Tefel still King Quarterback
Tefel, MacSed, and Nestea have been invited to the all star game.
And Happy will be coming out of retirement to finally play in something he can win, by losing.
Reminds me of that King of Kongs tournament that GOM held(?) once, too bad I didn't pay more attention to it.
I now have three showmatches I want to see:
The 4v4 team of Elfi, Inca, Goody and Life against Innovation, Soulkey, Flash and Rain.
The throwing contest of Tefel, MacSed, Nestea,and Happy.
The Injustice league FFA featuring Hyvaa, Shine, Sniper, Bubbles, and TheBest. Surprise cameos by Hongun and Bitbybit. Inca was also playing, but no one noticed.
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for MacSed
2:00 pool first for Snute double gas for MacSed Hatch for Snute Cybernetics core for MacSed
3:00 zealot for MacSed gas for Snute MSC for MacSed
4:00 Nexus for MacSed overlord scouts the nexus ling speed for Snute
5:00 3 more gates for MacSed 3rd base for Snute
6:00 some more zealots and sentries being warped in for MacSed MacSed moving out on the map lings of Snute scout the push of MacSed moving out Roach warren for Snute
7:00 58 vs 55 more lings coming out for Snute MacSed standing in the middle of the map lings try to surround MacSed's army but he forcefields double stargate for MacSed Roaches started for Snute forge for MacSed 2 more gas for MacSed another gas for Snute
8:00 88 vs 74 MacSed just chilling in the middle of the map Snute goes back to droning Lair for Snute Void ray and oracle for MacSed spores going up for Snute +1 attack started for MacSed Robo for MacSed double void ray production for acSed
9:00 102 vs 85 roaches coming out for Snute another gas for Snute Roach speed for Snute infestation pit for Snute
10:00 118 vs 92 3rd base for MacSed Robo bay for MacSed 3rd base for MacSed snute scouts the 3rd Hive for Snute Hydralisk den for Snute 2nd evo for Snute
On July 24 2013 09:50 lichter wrote: Not even Jaedong can throw that far guys
I want to believe.
rooting against Jaedong is Forbidden.
I'm more curious about which progamer can throw the farthest. Looks like Tefel still King Quarterback
Tefel, MacSed, and Nestea have been invited to the all star game.
And Happy will be coming out of retirement to finally play in something he can win, by losing.
Reminds me of that King of Kongs tournament that GOM held(?) once, too bad I didn't pay more attention to it.
I now have three showmatches I want to see:
The 4v4 team of Elfi, Inca, Goody and Life against Innovation, Soulkey, Flash and Rain.
The throwing contest of Tefel, MacSed, Nestea,and Happy.
The Injustice league FFA featuring Hyvaa, Shine, Sniper, Bubbles, and TheBest. Surprise cameos by Hongun and Bitbybit. Inca was also playing, but no one noticed.
On July 24 2013 09:59 Zenbrez wrote: Brown vs Mini is still the biggest throw I've ever seen (with SoO vs Gumiho coming in a very close second)
what was great about soo vs Gumiho wasn't the throw in itself, it was the anticlimax. LOOK THOSE BANELINGS... explode.
Please, no visuals. You'll sink me into a depression
Lol isn't it twice now that soO got way ahead and let you down by losing? Once vs Symbol and now once vs Gumiho? Maybe you should try cheering for a player less stressful to like... especially if this becomes a trend
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for MacSed
2:00 pool first for Snute double gas for MacSed Hatch for Snute Cybernetics core for MacSed
3:00 zealot for MacSed gas for Snute MSC for MacSed
4:00 Nexus for MacSed overlord scouts the nexus ling speed for Snute
5:00 3 more gates for MacSed 3rd base for Snute
6:00 some more zealots and sentries being warped in for MacSed MacSed moving out on the map lings of Snute scout the push of MacSed moving out Roach warren for Snute
7:00 58 vs 55 more lings coming out for Snute MacSed standing in the middle of the map lings try to surround MacSed's army but he forcefields double stargate for MacSed Roaches started for Snute forge for MacSed 2 more gas for MacSed another gas for Snute
8:00 88 vs 74 MacSed just chilling in the middle of the map Snute goes back to droning Lair for Snute Void ray and oracle for MacSed spores going up for Snute +1 attack started for MacSed Robo for MacSed double void ray production for acSed
9:00 102 vs 85 roaches coming out for Snute another gas for Snute Roach speed for Snute infestation pit for Snute
10:00 118 vs 92 3rd base for MacSed Robo bay for MacSed 3rd base for MacSed snute scouts the 3rd Hive for Snute Hydralisk den for Snute evo for Snute
11:00 150 vs 110 +1 armor for MacSed immortal fr Macsed +1 range attack started for Snute Hydra range for Snute colossus production started for MacSed
12:00 166 vs 122 Extended thermal lance research started for Macsed Twilight council for MacSed 2 more gates for MacSed vipers started for Snute 4th base for Snute
13:00 190 vs 135 more spores going up for Snute Templar archives for MacSed revelation on the main base of Snute also hits a viper as it hatches 4 more gates for MacSed
14:00 200 vs 153 engagement outside the natural of Snute timewarps on the army of Snute abduct on a void ray and a colossus 2nd colossus is abducted MacSed is forced back into his natural but Snute can't break him blink research started for Macsed
15:00 168 vs 127 +2 attack started for Macsed Snute walks some spores forward to drain for viper energy another evo for Snute snute moving in for another attack only 1 viper for Snute 2 colossi out for MacSed 1 colossus is abducted
On July 24 2013 09:59 Zenbrez wrote: Brown vs Mini is still the biggest throw I've ever seen (with SoO vs Gumiho coming in a very close second)
what was great about soo vs Gumiho wasn't the throw in itself, it was the anticlimax. LOOK THOSE BANELINGS... explode.
Please, no visuals. You'll sink me into a depression
Lol isn't it twice now that soO got way ahead and let you down by losing? Once vs Symbol and now once vs Gumiho? Maybe you should try cheering for a player less stressful to like... especially if this becomes a trend
Not a bad suggestion, since Jaedong seems to think my heart strings to meant to be toyed with as well lol
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for MacSed
2:00 pool first for Snute double gas for MacSed Hatch for Snute Cybernetics core for MacSed
3:00 zealot for MacSed gas for Snute MSC for MacSed
4:00 Nexus for MacSed overlord scouts the nexus ling speed for Snute
5:00 3 more gates for MacSed 3rd base for Snute
6:00 some more zealots and sentries being warped in for MacSed MacSed moving out on the map lings of Snute scout the push of MacSed moving out Roach warren for Snute
7:00 58 vs 55 more lings coming out for Snute MacSed standing in the middle of the map lings try to surround MacSed's army but he forcefields double stargate for MacSed Roaches started for Snute forge for MacSed 2 more gas for MacSed another gas for Snute
8:00 88 vs 74 MacSed just chilling in the middle of the map Snute goes back to droning Lair for Snute Void ray and oracle for MacSed spores going up for Snute +1 attack started for MacSed Robo for MacSed double void ray production for acSed
9:00 102 vs 85 roaches coming out for Snute another gas for Snute Roach speed for Snute infestation pit for Snute
10:00 118 vs 92 3rd base for MacSed Robo bay for MacSed 3rd base for MacSed snute scouts the 3rd Hive for Snute Hydralisk den for Snute evo for Snute
11:00 150 vs 110 +1 armor for MacSed immortal fr Macsed +1 range attack started for Snute Hydra range for Snute colossus production started for MacSed
12:00 166 vs 122 Extended thermal lance research started for Macsed Twilight council for MacSed 2 more gates for MacSed vipers started for Snute 4th base for Snute
13:00 190 vs 135 more spores going up for Snute Templar archives for MacSed revelation on the main base of Snute also hits a viper as it hatches 4 more gates for MacSed
14:00 200 vs 153 engagement outside the natural of Snute timewarps on the army of Snute abduct on a void ray and a colossus 2nd colossus is abducted MacSed is forced back into his natural but Snute can't break him blink research started for Macsed
15:00 168 vs 127 +2 attack started for Macsed Snute walks some spores forward to drain for viper energy another evo for Snute snute moving in for another attack only 1 viper for Snute 2 colossi out for MacSed 1 colossus is abducted
16:00 186 vs 110 another colossus abducted roach hydra breaking through Macsed's army Snute remaxing on roach ling Macsed trying to hold his natural wall but Snute breaks through Macsed ggs! Snute wins game 1!
On July 24 2013 09:50 lichter wrote: Not even Jaedong can throw that far guys
I want to believe.
rooting against Jaedong is Forbidden.
I'm more curious about which progamer can throw the farthest. Looks like Tefel still King Quarterback
Tefel, MacSed, and Nestea have been invited to the all star game.
And Happy will be coming out of retirement to finally play in something he can win, by losing.
Reminds me of that King of Kongs tournament that GOM held(?) once, too bad I didn't pay more attention to it.
I now have three showmatches I want to see:
The 4v4 team of Elfi, Inca, Goody and Life against Innovation, Soulkey, Flash and Rain.
The throwing contest of Tefel, MacSed, Nestea,and Happy.
The Injustice league FFA featuring Hyvaa, Shine, Sniper, Bubbles, and TheBest. Surprise cameos by Hongun and Bitbybit. Inca was also playing, but no one noticed.
A ton of Snute's games look like this, with the quick viper (well didn't see the timing but at least semi-quick viper :D), into just rolling these type of armies that can't really deal with this. If I were to play Snute I'd prepare something to be ready for vipers way sooner, I'm sort of disappointed that no one seems to do it.
On July 24 2013 10:14 Greendotz wrote: Woo, hitting in the region of 21-22K viewers. Is this increase due too bitterdam you think?
it was about 18k-20k yesterday with frodan and gretorp. tastosis and day 9 probably have biggest pulls(in terms of viewers) for all casters in the scene(probably in all of esports as far as i know)
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for MacSed
2:00 pool first for Snute double gas for MacSed Hatch for Snute Cybernetics core for MacSed
3:00 gas for Snute MSC for MacSed
4:00 Nexus for MacSed ling speed for Snute
5:00 2 gates and Stargate for MacSed Stargate part of the natural wall lings scout the stargate 3rd base for Snute
6:00 phoenix production started for MacSed 20 lings for Snute phoenix starts killing an overlord 2 more gas for MacSed
7:00 62 vs 48 spores started for Snute ling pressure at the wall but MacSed forcefields another overlord dying to a phoenix Lair for Snute 4 more gates for MacSed
8:00 70 vs 60 4 more gas for Snute phoenixes looking for stuff to damage but there are quite a few spores out
9:00 80 vs 77 Hydralisk den for Snute evo for Snute another gas for Snute 30 lings started for Snute Hydra range for Snute +1 range attack started for Snute MacSed walls off his natural infestation pit for Snute
10:00 101 vs 94 MacSed moving across the map probe of MacSed is killed off before getting a closer pylon engagement at the 3rd of Snute lings get a surround forcefields are being used phoenixes picking up hydras
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the bottom left
1:40 gateway first for MacSed
2:00 pool first for Snute double gas for MacSed Hatch for Snute Cybernetics core for MacSed
3:00 gas for Snute MSC for MacSed
4:00 Nexus for MacSed ling speed for Snute
5:00 2 gates and Stargate for MacSed Stargate part of the natural wall lings scout the stargate 3rd base for Snute
6:00 phoenix production started for MacSed 20 lings for Snute phoenix starts killing an overlord 2 more gas for MacSed
7:00 62 vs 48 spores started for Snute ling pressure at the wall but MacSed forcefields another overlord dying to a phoenix Lair for Snute 4 more gates for MacSed
8:00 70 vs 60 4 more gas for Snute phoenixes looking for stuff to damage but there are quite a few spores out
9:00 80 vs 77 Hydralisk den for Snute evo for Snute another gas for Snute 30 lings started for Snute Hydra range for Snute +1 range attack started for Snute MacSed walls off his natural infestation pit for Snute
10:00 101 vs 94 MacSed moving across the map probe of MacSed is killed off before getting a closer pylon engagement at the 3rd of Snute lings get a surround forcefields are being used phoenixes picking up hydras
11:00 82 vs 93 drones at the 3rd are pulled phoenixes are out of energy reinforcements showing up for MacSed Snute losing hydras as they spawn at his 3rd spore kills the MSC phoenixes of MacSed are killed off more stalkers show up
12:00 68 vs 78 lings and hydras fighting stalkers 3rd of Snute is killed no more queens for Snute more stalkers walking across the map MacSed moves into the natural Snute pulls his natural drones
13:00 63 vs 80 MacSed kiting back against drones with his stalkers more stalkers walk in and Snute ggs! MacSed ties it up 1-1!
Wait, so JD had Dreamhack last weekend, just played WCS, has IEM this weekend, ROG the next weekend, then WCS again. I think the MC effect is going to start taking its toll real soon
On July 24 2013 10:24 Zenbrez wrote: Wait, so JD had Dreamhack last weekend, just played WCS, has IEM this weekend, ROG the next weekend, then WCS again. I think the MC effect is going to start taking its toll real soon
EG+sponsors gotta make the most of that contract lol
On July 24 2013 10:24 Zenbrez wrote: Wait, so JD had Dreamhack last weekend, just played WCS, has IEM this weekend, ROG the next weekend, then WCS again. I think the MC effect is going to start taking its toll real soon
If it was the MC effect shouldn't he had won something by now?
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for MacSed
2:00 pool first for Snute double gas for MacSed hatch for Snute Cybernetics core for MacSed
3:00 zealot for MacSed gas for Snute MSC for MacSed
4:00 Nexus for MacSed overlord scouts the nexus timing ling speed for Snute
5:00 2 more gates for MacSed 3rd base for Snute in the center left
6:00 2 more gas for MacSed Roach warren for Snute 3 more gates for MacSed
7:00 63 vs 46 Lair for Snute another gate for MacSed 3 more gas for Snute another gas for Snute MacSed warping in more sentries Snute droning still
8:00 68 vs 65 Snute has 1 zergling and 61 drones MacSed moving out on the top of the map Snute doesnt scout the army moving out Roaches started for Snute Roach speed for Snute MacSed attacking into the 3rd of Snute
9:00 106 vs 81 forcefields blocking the roaches but a lot are being used timewarps dropped by MacSed Snute trying to make as many roaches as he can MacSed killing more roaches at the 3rd 3rd base of Snute is killed
10:00 107 vs 91 21 roaches out for Snute with more on the way MacSed missing tons of forcefields timewarp on the roaches MacSed pushing towards the natural forcefields block the natural choke of Snute more roaches falling
0:00 Snute spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for MacSed
2:00 pool first for Snute double gas for MacSed hatch for Snute Cybernetics core for MacSed
3:00 zealot for MacSed gas for Snute MSC for MacSed
4:00 Nexus for MacSed overlord scouts the nexus timing ling speed for Snute
5:00 2 more gates for MacSed 3rd base for Snute in the center left
6:00 2 more gas for MacSed Roach warren for Snute 3 more gates for MacSed
7:00 63 vs 46 Lair for Snute another gate for MacSed 3 more gas for Snute another gas for Snute MacSed warping in more sentries Snute droning still
8:00 68 vs 65 Snute has 1 zergling and 61 drones MacSed moving out on the top of the map Snute doesnt scout the army moving out Roaches started for Snute Roach speed for Snute MacSed attacking into the 3rd of Snute
9:00 106 vs 81 forcefields blocking the roaches but a lot are being used timewarps dropped by MacSed Snute trying to make as many roaches as he can MacSed killing more roaches at the 3rd 3rd base of Snute is killed
10:00 107 vs 91 21 roaches out for Snute with more on the way MacSed missing tons of forcefields timewarp on the roaches MacSed pushing towards the natural forcefields block the natural choke of Snute more roaches falling
11:00 107 vs 101 MacSed pushing in the natural forcefield blocking the main ramp drones in the natural are pulled MacSed kiting back against the drones and roaches MacSed takes a supply lead army supply is even MacSed is out of forcefields timewarp on the roaches
12:00 78 vs 83 more stalkers walking in more roaches in the way Snute is pushed back into his natural more stalkers arriving at the fight roaches are falling Snute ggs! MacSed wins 2-1!
Wow, what an upset. Snute, Hero, and TLO who all advanced pass the round of 32 all fail to advance in season 2. Holy moly. What is happening to Team Liquid.
When Jaedong won that match against Puck I thought there's no way you can win a game in a more ugly fashion than that. After seeing the last game of MacSed V Snute... I was wrong.
Those last 2 games are why forcefields need to be changed. They effect the games way too much. snute made mistakes but there is no coming back from pushes like that.
Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
On July 24 2013 10:40 bigbadgreen wrote: Those last 2 games are why forcefields need to be changed. They effect the games way too much. snute made mistakes but there is no coming back from pushes like that.
I can't believe people still whine about forcefields... isn't that like so 2 years ago?
On July 24 2013 10:41 ptbl wrote: Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
On July 24 2013 10:41 ptbl wrote: Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
Just a bad streak of results, they ensured their participation in the take-Acer-team-tournament in the same timeframe.
On July 24 2013 10:41 ptbl wrote: Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
On July 24 2013 10:40 bigbadgreen wrote: Those last 2 games are why forcefields need to be changed. They effect the games way too much. snute made mistakes but there is no coming back from pushes like that.
His lack of scouting cost him the game, not the force fields. Plus, he attacked directly into the timewarps, when he could have maneuvered his army.
On July 24 2013 10:41 ptbl wrote: Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
TaeJa is absorbing all of their power again
HSC was just a ritual to sacrifice all of their souls to rebuild him. Strong, faster, better.
On July 24 2013 10:40 bigbadgreen wrote: Those last 2 games are why forcefields need to be changed. They effect the games way too much. snute made mistakes but there is no coming back from pushes like that.
People have been bitching about FFs since 2010. Please
On July 24 2013 10:41 ptbl wrote: Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
TaeJa is absorbing all of their power again
HSC was just a ritual to sacrifice all of their souls to rebuild him. Strong, faster, better.
On July 24 2013 10:40 bigbadgreen wrote: Those last 2 games are why forcefields need to be changed. They effect the games way too much. snute made mistakes but there is no coming back from pushes like that.
People have been bitching about FFs since 2010. Please
Hey, there were people posting that 11-11 was killing esports in the GSTL thread. some things will never change ^^
On July 24 2013 10:41 ptbl wrote: Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
TaeJa is absorbing all of their power again
HSC was just a ritual to sacrifice all of their souls to rebuild him. Strong, faster, better.
On July 24 2013 10:41 ptbl wrote: Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
Just a bad streak of results, they ensured their participation in the take-Acer-team-tournament in the same timeframe.
Yeah, but TL's dota team is in a major slump, too. Just feel like it's something to do with the organization. We haven't seen any recent recruitments to the SC2 squad. It just feels like TL has stagnated. Their needs to be fresh blood or a shake up.
On July 24 2013 10:41 ptbl wrote: Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
Personally I'm surprised Zenio is still even marginally relevant in SC2, and as for TLO I think it's very harsh to note one poor performance after a string of great achievements. Hero and Snute's exit have genuinely surprised me I have to say. On the flip side Taeja is currently on a tare again and Ret unexpectedly got through a pretty hard group to make the RO16. Wouldn't contribute any of that to a TL slump personally.
On July 24 2013 10:41 ptbl wrote: Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
Personally I'm surprised Zenio is still even marginally relevant in SC2, and as for TLO I think it's very harsh to note one poor performance after a string of great achievements. Hero and Snute's exit have genuinely surprised me I have to say. On the flip side Taeja is currently on a tare again and Ret unexpectedly got through a pretty hard group to make the RO16. Wouldn't contribute any of that to a TL slump personally.
Zenio isn't relevant, it's just his blue shirt ensures that he isn't just some code B noob but some known code B noob.
On July 24 2013 10:41 ptbl wrote: Seems like Team Liquid is in a slump. Zenio fail to qualify for WCS AM Challenger league. He attempted 4 times and failed all times. TLO gets knocked off in the round of 32. Same with Hero and now Snute. What is happening to the organization o.o.
Personally I'm surprised Zenio is still even marginally relevant in SC2, and as for TLO I think it's very harsh to note one poor performance after a string of great achievements. Hero and Snute's exit have genuinely surprised me I have to say. On the flip side Taeja is currently on a tare again and Ret unexpectedly got through a pretty hard group to make the RO16. Wouldn't contribute any of that to a TL slump personally.
I think TLO and Snute's losses were pretty unexpected because many people had them as prime candidates as the "world's best foreigner" after Stephano has slowly backed away from the spotlight.
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK gateway for puCK Twilight council for MacSed MSC for MacSed stalker for puCK MSC for puCK
4:00 2 more stalkers for puCK Dark shrine for MacSed Twilight council for puCK
5:00 another gate for MacSed another gate for puCK another gate for MacSed puCK scouting the map with his stalkers blink research started for puCK probe of MacSed is found and killed on the map
game exactly the same as last time. See LR for first series
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
I can't believe people still whine about forcefields... isn't that like so 2 years ago?
so you don't think that forcefields made up about %80 of that win happeneing?
oh noes a spellcaster and their correct energy management deciding if the player wins or lose. Reminds me of a game that had a matchup were the only aim of one side was to throw stuff at the opponent until the spellcasters were out of energy before they were out of bases and then proceed to crush them. Wait I remember It was PvZ in BW.
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK gateway for puCK Twilight council for MacSed MSC for MacSed stalker for puCK MSC for puCK
4:00 2 more stalkers for puCK Dark shrine for MacSed Twilight council for puCK
5:00 another gate for MacSed another gate for puCK another gate for MacSed puCK scouting the map with his stalkers blink research started for puCK probe of MacSed is found and killed on the map
game exactly the same as last time. See LR for first series
6:00 Robo for puck Robo for MacSed forward pylon of MacSed is taken out defensive DT warped in for MacSed DT moving across the map for MacSed immortal started for MacSed
7:00 P 48 vs M 42 DT enters the main of puCK observer is already out for puCK Dt gets 2 kills and runs away puCK sends his stalkers home Nexus for MacSed
8:00 P 52 vs M 43 Nexus for puCK puCK moving across the map again 2nd immortal for puCK puCK outruns his observer and starts getting hit by a DT DT in the natural of puCK is killed puCK attacking into the natural of MacSed
9:00 P 61 vs M 52 timewarps on hte army of MacSed puCK blinks away after seeing the 2 immortals immortal for puCK Robo bay for puCK
10:00 P 68 vs M 57 puCK pokes into the natural again photon overcharge on the natural nexus makes puCK blink away another immortal for MacSed WCS ADMIN C LAGGING WHAT THE FUCK DUDE SERIOUSLY OMG GET OUT PLZ 43 .. 545454 pan away from screen
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
haha what did I just read
Also, needs more opium
I couldn't write a response because I was laughing too hard.
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK gateway for puCK Twilight council for MacSed MSC for MacSed stalker for puCK MSC for puCK
4:00 2 more stalkers for puCK Dark shrine for MacSed Twilight council for puCK
5:00 another gate for MacSed another gate for puCK another gate for MacSed puCK scouting the map with his stalkers blink research started for puCK probe of MacSed is found and killed on the map
game exactly the same as last time. See LR for first series
6:00 Robo for puck Robo for MacSed forward pylon of MacSed is taken out defensive DT warped in for MacSed DT moving across the map for MacSed immortal started for MacSed
7:00 P 48 vs M 42 DT enters the main of puCK observer is already out for puCK Dt gets 2 kills and runs away puCK sends his stalkers home Nexus for MacSed
8:00 P 52 vs M 43 Nexus for puCK puCK moving across the map again 2nd immortal for puCK puCK outruns his observer and starts getting hit by a DT DT in the natural of puCK is killed puCK attacking into the natural of MacSed
9:00 P 61 vs M 52 timewarps on hte army of MacSed puCK blinks away after seeing the 2 immortals immortal for puCK Robo bay for puCK
10:00 P 68 vs M 57 puCK pokes into the natural again photon overcharge on the natural nexus makes puCK blink away another immortal for MacSed WCS ADMIN C LAGGING WHAT THE FUCK DUDE SERIOUSLY OMG GET OUT PLZ 43 .. 545454 pan away from screen
11:00 P 80 vs M 66 Robo bay for MacSed forge for puCK another immortal for puCK Extended thermal lance research started for puCK another photon overcharge forced on the natural of MacSed +1 attack started for puCK 2nd robo for puCK forge for MacSed
12:00 P 92 vs M 86 Colossus production started for MacSed Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed +1 attack started for MacSed stalkers continuing to harass at the natural of MacSed an immortal takes some damage charge research started for MacSed
13:00 P 100 vs M 96 observer of MacSed is kileld up as it tries to snipe the observer of puCK double colossus production for puCK 3rd base for puCK 4 more gates for MacSed charge research for puCK puCK scouts the main of MacSed with his observer and sees the extra gates puCK adding more gates
14:00 P 114 vs M 104 Templar archives for puCK more DTs being warped in for MacSed +2 attack started for puCK archon being made for MacSed with his DTs
15:00 P 131 vs M 130 MacSed moving out on the map stalkers of puCK leading MacSed around probe of MacSed with his army is killed off puCK ahead 5 to 3 in colossus count with another almost out
oh noes a spellcaster and their correct energy management deciding if the player wins or lose. Reminds me of a game that had a matchup were the only aim of one side was to throw stuff at the opponent until the spellcasters were out of energy before they were out of bases and then proceed to crush them. Wait I remember It was PvZ in BW.
and what did they do to fungal? and infestors were higher up the tech tree. Your reasoning is because fungal was op that it's ok for forcefields to be op now. It doesn't matter. unitl they change forcefields we'll keep watching 8+ sentry pushes that are too strong and no real negative to doing. sounds a lot like infestor bloord to me.
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK gateway for puCK Twilight council for MacSed MSC for MacSed stalker for puCK MSC for puCK
4:00 2 more stalkers for puCK Dark shrine for MacSed Twilight council for puCK
5:00 another gate for MacSed another gate for puCK another gate for MacSed puCK scouting the map with his stalkers blink research started for puCK probe of MacSed is found and killed on the map
game exactly the same as last time. See LR for first series
6:00 Robo for puck Robo for MacSed forward pylon of MacSed is taken out defensive DT warped in for MacSed DT moving across the map for MacSed immortal started for MacSed
7:00 P 48 vs M 42 DT enters the main of puCK observer is already out for puCK Dt gets 2 kills and runs away puCK sends his stalkers home Nexus for MacSed
8:00 P 52 vs M 43 Nexus for puCK puCK moving across the map again 2nd immortal for puCK puCK outruns his observer and starts getting hit by a DT DT in the natural of puCK is killed puCK attacking into the natural of MacSed
9:00 P 61 vs M 52 timewarps on hte army of MacSed puCK blinks away after seeing the 2 immortals immortal for puCK Robo bay for puCK
10:00 P 68 vs M 57 puCK pokes into the natural again photon overcharge on the natural nexus makes puCK blink away another immortal for MacSed WCS ADMIN C LAGGING WHAT THE FUCK DUDE SERIOUSLY OMG GET OUT PLZ 43 .. 545454 pan away from screen
11:00 P 80 vs M 66 Robo bay for MacSed forge for puCK another immortal for puCK Extended thermal lance research started for puCK another photon overcharge forced on the natural of MacSed +1 attack started for puCK 2nd robo for puCK forge for MacSed
12:00 P 92 vs M 86 Colossus production started for MacSed Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed +1 attack started for MacSed stalkers continuing to harass at the natural of MacSed an immortal takes some damage charge research started for MacSed
13:00 P 100 vs M 96 observer of MacSed is kileld up as it tries to snipe the observer of puCK double colossus production for puCK 3rd base for puCK 4 more gates for MacSed charge research for puCK puCK scouts the main of MacSed with his observer and sees the extra gates puCK adding more gates
14:00 P 114 vs M 104 Templar archives for puCK more DTs being warped in for MacSed +2 attack started for puCK archon being made for MacSed with his DTs
15:00 P 131 vs M 130 MacSed moving out on the map stalkers of puCK leading MacSed around probe of MacSed with his army is killed off puCK ahead 5 to 3 in colossus count with another almost out
16:00 P 145 vs M 139 timewarp from puCK on his natural ramp MacSed backs away 2 more archons for MacSed MacSed moving towards the 3rd of puCK 2 more colossi started for puCK
17:00 P 165 vs M 153 engagement at the 3rd of puCK timewarps on both armies MacSed's army is crushed by the superior army of puCK MacSed loses all of his colossi MSC kills a colossus MacSed ggs! puCK wins game 1!
"this is an ok engagement for macsed" archons stuck behind, zealots blocking themselves getting lasered in 1 sec, timewarped i dunno if it couldve been worse, his supply dropped by 40 in 1 second
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom right MacSed spawns in the top left
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK gateway for puCK Twilight council for MacSed MSC for MacSed stalker for puCK MSC for puCK
4:00 2 more stalkers for puCK Dark shrine for MacSed Twilight council for puCK
5:00 another gate for MacSed another gate for puCK another gate for MacSed puCK scouting the map with his stalkers blink research started for puCK probe of MacSed is found and killed on the map
game exactly the same as last time. See LR for first series
6:00 Robo for puck Robo for MacSed forward pylon of MacSed is taken out defensive DT warped in for MacSed DT moving across the map for MacSed immortal started for MacSed
7:00 P 48 vs M 42 DT enters the main of puCK observer is already out for puCK Dt gets 2 kills and runs away puCK sends his stalkers home Nexus for MacSed
8:00 P 52 vs M 43 Nexus for puCK puCK moving across the map again 2nd immortal for puCK puCK outruns his observer and starts getting hit by a DT DT in the natural of puCK is killed puCK attacking into the natural of MacSed
9:00 P 61 vs M 52 timewarps on hte army of MacSed puCK blinks away after seeing the 2 immortals immortal for puCK Robo bay for puCK
10:00 P 68 vs M 57 puCK pokes into the natural again photon overcharge on the natural nexus makes puCK blink away another immortal for MacSed WCS ADMIN C LAGGING WHAT THE FUCK DUDE SERIOUSLY OMG GET OUT PLZ 43 .. 545454 pan away from screen
11:00 P 80 vs M 66 Robo bay for MacSed forge for puCK another immortal for puCK Extended thermal lance research started for puCK another photon overcharge forced on the natural of MacSed +1 attack started for puCK 2nd robo for puCK forge for MacSed
12:00 P 92 vs M 86 Colossus production started for MacSed Extended thermal lance research started for MacSed +1 attack started for MacSed stalkers continuing to harass at the natural of MacSed an immortal takes some damage charge research started for MacSed
13:00 P 100 vs M 96 observer of MacSed is kileld up as it tries to snipe the observer of puCK double colossus production for puCK 3rd base for puCK 4 more gates for MacSed charge research for puCK puCK scouts the main of MacSed with his observer and sees the extra gates puCK adding more gates
14:00 P 114 vs M 104 Templar archives for puCK more DTs being warped in for MacSed +2 attack started for puCK archon being made for MacSed with his DTs
15:00 P 131 vs M 130 MacSed moving out on the map stalkers of puCK leading MacSed around probe of MacSed with his army is killed off puCK ahead 5 to 3 in colossus count with another almost out
16:00 P 145 vs M 139 timewarp from puCK on his natural ramp MacSed backs away 2 more archons for MacSed MacSed moving towards the 3rd of puCK 2 more colossi started for puCK
17:00 P 165 vs M 153 engagement at the 3rd of puCK timewarps on both armies MacSed's army is crushed by the superior army of puCK MacSed loses all of his colossi MSC kills a colossus with his MSC (lol) MacSed ggs! puCK wins game 1!
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
This joke is so complex and funny in so many ways, I almost feel like I should write an analysis of it.
oh noes a spellcaster and their correct energy management deciding if the player wins or lose. Reminds me of a game that had a matchup were the only aim of one side was to throw stuff at the opponent until the spellcasters were out of energy before they were out of bases and then proceed to crush them. Wait I remember It was PvZ in BW.
and what did they do to fungal? and infestors were higher up the tech tree. Your reasoning is because fungal was op that it's ok for forcefields to be op now. It doesn't matter. unitl they change forcefields we'll keep watching 8+ sentry pushes that are too strong and no real negative to doing. sounds a lot like infestor bloord to me.
8+ sentry pushes aren't that hard to defend as long as you scout properly and aren't so frickin greedy. Also there are negatives such as lack of tech and tons of wasted gas.
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
This joke is so complex and funny in so many ways, I almost feel like I should write an analysis of it.
How so? Seems pretty straightforward to me. And by all means, please do.
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both players stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for puCK MSC for MacSed Twilight council for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed 3rd gate for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK
5:00 MacSed kills off puCK's scouting probe 3rd gate for puCK blink research started for puCK another probe of puCK is picked off puCK comes out to meet the stalkers of MacSed timewarp on the stalkers of puCK puCK escapes without losses
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
This joke is so complex and funny in so many ways, I almost feel like I should write an analysis of it.
How so? Seems pretty straightforward to me. And by all means, please do.
It starts with the fact that in 1776 America won freedom from European domination by allying itself with another part of Europe. This plays up the fact that most Americans have no idea about history or geography and the parody of that.
Then the next joke double downs on that parody with mistaking Leif Eriksson for an Englishman and marrying that to a holiday about getting food from Native Americans and slaughtering them afterwards.
The third joke compounds that three fold at the ridiculous imagery of Benjamin Franklin and Qianlong playing a game invented 150 years after their death, thus securing China's aide in a battle that happened 10 years before Beer pong was invented. And China wasn't even in the battle.
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both players stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for puCK MSC for MacSed Twilight council for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed 3rd gate for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK
5:00 MacSed kills off puCK's scouting probe 3rd gate for puCK blink research started for puCK another probe of puCK is picked off puCK comes out to meet the stalkers of MacSed timewarp on the stalkers of puCK puCK escapes without losses
6:00 puCK has to use a timewarp to escape and now cant use overcharge stalkers and MSC of MacSed in the main of puCK puCK loses a pylon and is supply blocked probes in the main are pulled pylons finish in the main of puCK for MacSed probe surround on the stalkers of MacSed
7:00 P 22 vs M 32 MacSed kills off a bunch of workers only 2 gates powered for puCK robo for MacSed MacSed is ahead 24 to 14 in workers Macsed moves back into the main of puCK but then changes his mind and backs off
8:00 P 27 vs M 42 Nexus for MacSed observer for MacSed
9:00 P 33 vs M 48 immortal started for MacSed puCK sends his stalkers across the map and reveals blink to retreat MSC rebuilt for puCK nexus for puCK 2nd immortal for MacSed
10:00 P 41 vs M 59 robo for puCK another gate for Macsed dark shrine for puCK another immortal for MacSed
0:00 puCK spawns in the bottom left MacSed spawns in the top right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK 2nd gate for both players stalker for both players
4:00 MSC for puCK MSC for MacSed Twilight council for puCK 2 more stalkers for MacSed 3rd gate for MacSed 2 more stalkers for puCK
5:00 MacSed kills off puCK's scouting probe 3rd gate for puCK blink research started for puCK another probe of puCK is picked off puCK comes out to meet the stalkers of MacSed timewarp on the stalkers of puCK puCK escapes without losses
6:00 puCK has to use a timewarp to escape and now cant use overcharge stalkers and MSC of MacSed in the main of puCK puCK loses a pylon and is supply blocked probes in the main are pulled pylons finish in the main of puCK for MacSed probe surround on the stalkers of MacSed
7:00 P 22 vs M 32 MacSed kills off a bunch of workers only 2 gates powered for puCK robo for MacSed MacSed is ahead 24 to 14 in workers Macsed moves back into the main of puCK but then changes his mind and backs off
8:00 P 27 vs M 42 Nexus for MacSed observer for MacSed
9:00 P 33 vs M 48 immortal started for MacSed puCK sends his stalkers across the map and reveals blink to retreat MSC rebuilt for puCK nexus for puCK 2nd immortal for MacSed
10:00 P 41 vs M 59 robo for puCK another gate for Macsed dark shrine for puCK another immortal for MacSed
11:00 P 46 vs M 68 puCK cancels his dark shrine as the observer spots it I was wrong and meant that MacSed rebuilt his MSC puCK has no MSC macsed moving across the map Robo bay for MacSed puCK sees the army and ggs! MacSed ties it up 1-1!
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
This joke is so complex and funny in so many ways, I almost feel like I should write an analysis of it.
How so? Seems pretty straightforward to me. And by all means, please do.
It starts with the fact that in 1776 America won freedom from European domination by allying itself with another part of Europe. This plays up the fact that most Americans have no idea about history or geography and the parody of that.
Then the next joke double downs on that parody with mistaking Leif Eriksson for an Englishman and marrying that to a holiday about getting food from Native Americans and slaughtering them afterwards.
The third joke compounds that three fold at the ridiculous imagery of Benjamin Franklin and Qianlong playing a game invented 150 years after their death, thus securing China's aide in a battle that happened 10 years before Beer pong was invented. And China wasn't even in the battle.
I thought you were just talking about the last one lol. My joke about Leif Eriksson was actually in reference to Snute and the Thanksgiving part was just thrown in as a joke about messing up the history.
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
This joke is so complex and funny in so many ways, I almost feel like I should write an analysis of it.
How so? Seems pretty straightforward to me. And by all means, please do.
It starts with the fact that in 1776 America won freedom from European domination by allying itself with another part of Europe. This plays up the fact that most Americans have no idea about history or geography and the parody of that.
Then the next joke double downs on that parody with mistaking Leif Eriksson for an Englishman and marrying that to a holiday about getting food from Native Americans and slaughtering them afterwards.
The third joke compounds that three fold at the ridiculous imagery of Benjamin Franklin and Qianlong playing a game invented 150 years after their death, thus securing China's aide in a battle that happened 10 years before Beer pong was invented. And China wasn't even in the battle.
China is really good at pingpong though I'm sure he'd pick it up really quickly
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
This joke is so complex and funny in so many ways, I almost feel like I should write an analysis of it.
How so? Seems pretty straightforward to me. And by all means, please do.
It starts with the fact that in 1776 America won freedom from European domination by allying itself with another part of Europe. This plays up the fact that most Americans have no idea about history or geography and the parody of that.
Then the next joke double downs on that parody with mistaking Leif Eriksson for an Englishman and marrying that to a holiday about getting food from Native Americans and slaughtering them afterwards.
The third joke compounds that three fold at the ridiculous imagery of Benjamin Franklin and Qianlong playing a game invented 150 years after their death, thus securing China's aide in a battle that happened 10 years before Beer pong was invented. And China wasn't even in the battle.
China is really good at pingpong though I'm sure he'd pick it up really quickly
Qianlong probably got some sick Asian glow though. After a few shots he was probably as Red as Mao
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
This joke is so complex and funny in so many ways, I almost feel like I should write an analysis of it.
How so? Seems pretty straightforward to me. And by all means, please do.
It starts with the fact that in 1776 America won freedom from European domination by allying itself with another part of Europe. This plays up the fact that most Americans have no idea about history or geography and the parody of that.
Then the next joke double downs on that parody with mistaking Leif Eriksson for an Englishman and marrying that to a holiday about getting food from Native Americans and slaughtering them afterwards.
The third joke compounds that three fold at the ridiculous imagery of Benjamin Franklin and Qianlong playing a game invented 150 years after their death, thus securing China's aide in a battle that happened 10 years before Beer pong was invented. And China wasn't even in the battle.
Hey, that's play-by-play. We want more analysis in our jokecasting.
On July 24 2013 10:48 Bagration wrote: It's like 1776 all over again. Glorious America shaking off the European domination! Freedom!
Seriously though, well done Macsed.
What, you didn't learn about when Uncle Sam kicked Leif Eriksson out of the country? Isn't that why we have Thanksgiving?
And Benjamin Franklin defeated Chinese Emperor Qianlong in a game of good ole American beer pong, forcing Qianlong to send the Chinese fleet to battle against the Royal Navy at Midway. Freedom!
This joke is so complex and funny in so many ways, I almost feel like I should write an analysis of it.
How so? Seems pretty straightforward to me. And by all means, please do.
It starts with the fact that in 1776 America won freedom from European domination by allying itself with another part of Europe. This plays up the fact that most Americans have no idea about history or geography and the parody of that.
Then the next joke double downs on that parody with mistaking Leif Eriksson for an Englishman and marrying that to a holiday about getting food from Native Americans and slaughtering them afterwards.
The third joke compounds that three fold at the ridiculous imagery of Benjamin Franklin and Qianlong playing a game invented 150 years after their death, thus securing China's aide in a battle that happened 10 years before Beer pong was invented. And China wasn't even in the battle.
China is really good at pingpong though I'm sure he'd pick it up really quickly
Qianlong probably got some sick Asian glow though. After a few shots he was probably as Red as Mao
Yeah I think puck will pretty much know what's up from this probe scout, unless he majorly messes up preparation, I think puck'll be able to deal with this :o
0:00 puCK spawns in the top left MacSed spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed proxy pylon from MacSed on the left side of the map cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK puCK sending out a probe scout 2nd gate from puCK proxy stargate from MacSed puCK scouts the main of MacSed and sees only 1 pylon MSC for MacSed
4:00 stalker on the way for puCK MSC for puCK 2 more stalkers for puCK probe scout is finally killed by MacSed oracle for MacSed stalker of puCK barely misses scouting the proxy stargate
5:00 twilight council for MacSed another gate for Macsed more stalkers for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed twilight council for puCK MSC of puCK sees the oracle coming oracle of MacSed falls with 1 probe killed
On July 24 2013 11:18 lichter wrote: Ouch that scout was 1 inch away
Why even walk over there if you're not going to check the obvious proxy location? No one's going to throw it out in the open, it's going to be behind the minerals!
0:00 puCK spawns in the top left MacSed spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed proxy pylon from MacSed on the left side of the map cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK puCK sending out a probe scout 2nd gate from puCK proxy stargate from MacSed puCK scouts the main of MacSed and sees only 1 pylon MSC for MacSed
4:00 stalker on the way for puCK MSC for puCK 2 more stalkers for puCK probe scout is finally killed by MacSed oracle for MacSed stalker of puCK barely misses scouting the proxy stargate
5:00 twilight council for MacSed another gate for Macsed more stalkers for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed twilight council for puCK MSC of puCK sees the oracle coming oracle of MacSed falls with 1 probe killed
6:00 dark shrine for MacSed blink research started for puCK another gate for puCK MSC of puCK floating towards the proxy stargate forward pylon for MacSed MacSed sending his 3 stalkers across the map MSC sees nothing building in the stargate
7:00 P 44 vs M 38 Nexus for puCK stalkers not wanting to attack each other 4 stalkers scared of 3 stalkers DTs warping in for MacSed a sentry is ready for puCK forcefield from puCK blocks the DTs
8:00 P 54 vs M 46 robo for puCK Nexus for MacSed nexus in the natural of puCK is forced to cancel Blink research started for MacSed DT gets into the main of puCK before the robo finishes probes of puCK starting to fall puCK runs his probes away
9:00 P 58 vs M 52 2nd DT in the main observer started for puCK probes stil running around DTs retreat from the base of puCK before the observer gets out oracle for MacSed another gate for Macsed MacSed is ahead 30 to 23 in probes
10:00 P 53 vs M 63 Nexus for puCK 2nd observer for puCK Macsed sending his observer to his natural in case he needs detection
0:00 puCK spawns in the top left MacSed spawns in the bottom right
1:40 gateway first for both players
2:00 gas for puCK double gas for MacSed proxy pylon from MacSed on the left side of the map cybernetics core for both players
3:00 2nd gas for puCK puCK sending out a probe scout 2nd gate from puCK proxy stargate from MacSed puCK scouts the main of MacSed and sees only 1 pylon MSC for MacSed
4:00 stalker on the way for puCK MSC for puCK 2 more stalkers for puCK probe scout is finally killed by MacSed oracle for MacSed stalker of puCK barely misses scouting the proxy stargate
5:00 twilight council for MacSed another gate for Macsed more stalkers for puCK 3rd gate for MacSed twilight council for puCK MSC of puCK sees the oracle coming oracle of MacSed falls with 1 probe killed
6:00 dark shrine for MacSed blink research started for puCK another gate for puCK MSC of puCK floating towards the proxy stargate forward pylon for MacSed MacSed sending his 3 stalkers across the map MSC sees nothing building in the stargate
7:00 P 44 vs M 38 Nexus for puCK stalkers not wanting to attack each other 4 stalkers scared of 3 stalkers DTs warping in for MacSed a sentry is ready for puCK forcefield from puCK blocks the DTs
8:00 P 54 vs M 46 robo for puCK Nexus for MacSed nexus in the natural of puCK is forced to cancel Blink research started for MacSed DT gets into the main of puCK before the robo finishes probes of puCK starting to fall puCK runs his probes away
9:00 P 58 vs M 52 2nd DT in the main observer started for puCK probes stil running around DTs retreat from the base of puCK before the observer gets out oracle for MacSed another gate for Macsed MacSed is ahead 30 to 23 in probes
10:00 P 53 vs M 63 Nexus for puCK 2nd observer for puCK Macsed sending his observer to his natural in case he needs detection
11:00 P 63 vs M 81 puCK moving across the map with his army stalker count is even blink is done for MacSed puCK moves into the natural of MacSed photon overcharge on the natural nexus puCK starts to retreat MacSed blinks after him puCK forcefields the natural ramp and retreats
12:00 P 71 vs M 96 puCK retreats back to his natural immortal on the way for puCK another gate for MacSed MacSed attacking into the natural of puCK photon overcharge on the natural nexus of puCK
13:00 P 71 vs M 104 DT in the main of puCK has 15 kills MacSed is ahead by 15 workers DT in the main is cleaned up
14:00 P 78 vs M 120 another photon overcharge on the naturla nexus of puCK oracle in the main of puCK MacSed attacks into the natural of puCK MacSed overruns puCK's defenses puCK ggs! MacSed wins 2-1 and advances to the RO16!
On July 24 2013 11:25 ptbl wrote: How does a professional sc2 player let a dark templar up the ramp when all he needs to do is keep on force fielding o.o.
On July 24 2013 11:25 ptbl wrote: How does a professional sc2 player let a dark templar up the ramp when all he needs to do is keep on force fielding o.o.
On July 24 2013 11:25 ptbl wrote: How does a professional sc2 player let a dark templar up the ramp when all he needs to do is keep on force fielding o.o.
Murican "pros" do things like that...
wasn't it just because he ran out of energy?
Yeah, I didn't check but I presume he was out of gas.
On July 24 2013 11:25 ptbl wrote: How does a professional sc2 player let a dark templar up the ramp when all he needs to do is keep on force fielding o.o.
Murican "pros" do things like that...
You can tell the difference in expectations too lol, in spl with stats he already had sentries prepared and everyone already assumes it's not going to work, here bitterdam is really really pleasantly surprised that puck had the presence of mind to forcefield T.T e: and yeah it was a lack of energy from ffing w/o enough time in between
On July 24 2013 11:25 ptbl wrote: How does a professional sc2 player let a dark templar up the ramp when all he needs to do is keep on force fielding o.o.
Murican "pros" do things like that...
wasn't it just because he ran out of energy?
Yea, he ran out. Unless he timed his ff's a bit better, not much more he could have done beyond pylon blocking.
On July 24 2013 11:25 ptbl wrote: How does a professional sc2 player let a dark templar up the ramp when all he needs to do is keep on force fielding o.o.
Murican "pros" do things like that...
wasn't it just because he ran out of energy?
no way obviously he was just bad, don't you know that Murican Premier League is equivalent to EU silver
On July 24 2013 11:25 ptbl wrote: How does a professional sc2 player let a dark templar up the ramp when all he needs to do is keep on force fielding o.o.
Murican "pros" do things like that...
wasn't it just because he ran out of energy?
He was forcefielding way to quickly. He could have spaced them out, but I guess he was nervous or something.
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
My understanding was:
*In INCA's head*
> I DT rush every game > opponent sees me to DT rush every game > Therefore they won't expect me to DT rush THIS game because I'm so predictable > LOL DT RUSH > Uh-oh I'm dead against NesTea. > Do it again, he won't expect it four times in a row > NesTea did > 4-0 NesTea
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
Hated him as he denied possibly the greatest SC2 finals in WoL as we would have had Nada vs Nestea.
Eventually that hated turned into apathy as he got 4-0'd into the ground and eventually grew into a humorous caricature as he would make dt after dt after dt in every one of his games. The best part was he did just good enough to make actual Protosses around the world think his strategy of forever using DTs was a solid and relevant one.
hey guys hope you enjoyed the show, to confirm during the last game after puck warped in the 3 sentries, he did run out of energy and was 8 gas short of getting a 4th sentry or enough energy on 1 of the other ones, i should have noticed that immediately, just thought puck was Save and I didnt pay attention O_O, hope it was fine besides that, I had a lot of fun today gn!
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
Hated him as he denied possibly the greatest SC2 finals in WoL as we would have had Nada vs Nestea.
Eventually that hated turned into apathy as he got 4-0'd into the ground and eventually grew into a humorous caricature as he would make dt after dt after dt in every one of his games. The best part was he did just good enough to make actual Protosses around the world think his strategy of forever using DTs was a solid and relevant one.
Is that why Protoss never wins major Korean titles? Can it all be traced back to one man?
On July 24 2013 11:37 RotterdaM wrote: hey guys hope you enjoyed the show, to confirm during the last game after puck warped in the 3 sentries, he did run out of energy and was 8 gas short of getting a 4th sentry or enough energy on 1 of the other ones, i should have noticed that immediately, just thought puck was Save and I didnt pay attention O_O, hope it was fine besides that, I had a lot of fun today gn!
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
Hated him as he denied possibly the greatest SC2 finals in WoL as we would have had Nada vs Nestea.
Eventually that hated turned into apathy as he got 4-0'd into the ground and eventually grew into a humorous caricature as he would make dt after dt after dt in every one of his games. The best part was he did just good enough to make actual Protosses around the world think his strategy of forever using DTs was a solid and relevant one.
Is that why Protoss never wins major Korean titles? Can it all be traced back to one man?
Yea, MC and Inca. oGsProtoss were the only relevant Protosses back then and the two of them convinced the entire world that all-ins and DTs were the only ways for Protoss to win. By the time Creator got good enough/Rain switched over, there were no more chances as the infestor buff was in place and Mvp was too godlike.
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
Hated him as he denied possibly the greatest SC2 finals in WoL as we would have had Nada vs Nestea.
Eventually that hated turned into apathy as he got 4-0'd into the ground and eventually grew into a humorous caricature as he would make dt after dt after dt in every one of his games. The best part was he did just good enough to make actual Protosses around the world think his strategy of forever using DTs was a solid and relevant one.
Is that why Protoss never wins major Korean titles? Can it all be traced back to one man?
Yea, MC and Inca. oGsProtoss were the only relevant Protosses back then and the two of them convinced the entire world that all-ins and DTs were the only ways for Protoss to win. By the time Creator got good enough/Rain switched over, there were no more chances as the infestor buff was in place.
Come to think of it, I don't know if I can remember more than a handful of times Rain actually all in'd. Creater was the one who developed three base colossi in PvT or something?
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
Hated him as he denied possibly the greatest SC2 finals in WoL as we would have had Nada vs Nestea.
Eventually that hated turned into apathy as he got 4-0'd into the ground and eventually grew into a humorous caricature as he would make dt after dt after dt in every one of his games. The best part was he did just good enough to make actual Protosses around the world think his strategy of forever using DTs was a solid and relevant one.
Is that why Protoss never wins major Korean titles? Can it all be traced back to one man?
Yea, MC and Inca. oGsProtoss were the only relevant Protosses back then and the two of them convinced the entire world that all-ins and DTs were the only ways for Protoss to win. By the time Creator got good enough/Rain switched over, there were no more chances as the infestor buff was in place.
Come to think of it, I don't know if I can remember more than a handful of times Rain actually all in'd. Creater was the one who developed three base colossi in PvT or something?
Creator standardized double forge play into 3 base collosus. Rain basically took all of Creator's buids as a basis. Or he would make dts and die to Mvp. Thanks Inca!
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
It was a love/hate relationship as some people said. Funny shit like InCa finishing off Puzzle in a GSTL acematch with DTs when everyone in the thread was like PLEASE RUSH TO DETECTION and he died anyways. Sad shit like the finals. Funny stuff when he won an up and down group going DT every game. etc...
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
Hated him as he denied possibly the greatest SC2 finals in WoL as we would have had Nada vs Nestea.
Eventually that hated turned into apathy as he got 4-0'd into the ground and eventually grew into a humorous caricature as he would make dt after dt after dt in every one of his games. The best part was he did just good enough to make actual Protosses around the world think his strategy of forever using DTs was a solid and relevant one.
Is that why Protoss never wins major Korean titles? Can it all be traced back to one man?
Yea, MC and Inca. oGsProtoss were the only relevant Protosses back then and the two of them convinced the entire world that all-ins and DTs were the only ways for Protoss to win. By the time Creator got good enough/Rain switched over, there were no more chances as the infestor buff was in place.
Come to think of it, I don't know if I can remember more than a handful of times Rain actually all in'd. Creater was the one who developed three base colossi in PvT or something?
Rain all-ins rarely, but when he does it it's almost as if he is intentionally trying to be unpredictable. Such a tryhard lol
I keep thinking it was Creator who invented 3nexus into 8gate all-in but I believe it was Parting. Not sure if anyone in particular developed 3base PvT or if it was just a result of the metagame shifting to safer, macro oriented builds.
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
Hated him as he denied possibly the greatest SC2 finals in WoL as we would have had Nada vs Nestea.
Eventually that hated turned into apathy as he got 4-0'd into the ground and eventually grew into a humorous caricature as he would make dt after dt after dt in every one of his games. The best part was he did just good enough to make actual Protosses around the world think his strategy of forever using DTs was a solid and relevant one.
Is that why Protoss never wins major Korean titles? Can it all be traced back to one man?
Yea, MC and Inca. oGsProtoss were the only relevant Protosses back then and the two of them convinced the entire world that all-ins and DTs were the only ways for Protoss to win. By the time Creator got good enough/Rain switched over, there were no more chances as the infestor buff was in place.
Come to think of it, I don't know if I can remember more than a handful of times Rain actually all in'd. Creater was the one who developed three base colossi in PvT or something?
Rain all-ins rarely, but when he does it it's almost as if he is intentionally trying to be unpredictable. Such a tryhard lol
I keep thinking it was Creator who invented 3nexus into 8gate all-in but I believe it was Parting. Not sure if anyone in particular developed 3base PvT or if it was just a result of the metagame shifting to safer, macro oriented builds.
It was NaNiwa while staying at the ST house and PartinG stole it and used it first in a televised match D:
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
Hated him as he denied possibly the greatest SC2 finals in WoL as we would have had Nada vs Nestea.
Eventually that hated turned into apathy as he got 4-0'd into the ground and eventually grew into a humorous caricature as he would make dt after dt after dt in every one of his games. The best part was he did just good enough to make actual Protosses around the world think his strategy of forever using DTs was a solid and relevant one.
Is that why Protoss never wins major Korean titles? Can it all be traced back to one man?
Yea, MC and Inca. oGsProtoss were the only relevant Protosses back then and the two of them convinced the entire world that all-ins and DTs were the only ways for Protoss to win. By the time Creator got good enough/Rain switched over, there were no more chances as the infestor buff was in place.
Come to think of it, I don't know if I can remember more than a handful of times Rain actually all in'd. Creater was the one who developed three base colossi in PvT or something?
Rain all-ins rarely, but when he does it it's almost as if he is intentionally trying to be unpredictable. Such a tryhard lol
I keep thinking it was Creator who invented 3nexus into 8gate all-in but I believe it was Parting. Not sure if anyone in particular developed 3base PvT or if it was just a result of the metagame shifting to safer, macro oriented builds.
Parting* made 1gate 3 neuxs into 8 gate. No one can ever pinpoint when it became better to get to 3base, but I believe a large part of it had to do with the Parting vs Jjakji series in Parting's first ever Code S.
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
Hated him as he denied possibly the greatest SC2 finals in WoL as we would have had Nada vs Nestea.
Eventually that hated turned into apathy as he got 4-0'd into the ground and eventually grew into a humorous caricature as he would make dt after dt after dt in every one of his games. The best part was he did just good enough to make actual Protosses around the world think his strategy of forever using DTs was a solid and relevant one.
Is that why Protoss never wins major Korean titles? Can it all be traced back to one man?
Yea, MC and Inca. oGsProtoss were the only relevant Protosses back then and the two of them convinced the entire world that all-ins and DTs were the only ways for Protoss to win. By the time Creator got good enough/Rain switched over, there were no more chances as the infestor buff was in place.
Come to think of it, I don't know if I can remember more than a handful of times Rain actually all in'd. Creater was the one who developed three base colossi in PvT or something?
Rain all-ins rarely, but when he does it it's almost as if he is intentionally trying to be unpredictable. Such a tryhard lol
I keep thinking it was Creator who invented 3nexus into 8gate all-in but I believe it was Parting. Not sure if anyone in particular developed 3base PvT or if it was just a result of the metagame shifting to safer, macro oriented builds.
Parting* made 1gate 3 neuxs into 8 gate. No one can ever pinpoint when it became better to get to 3base, but I believe a large part of it had to do with the Parting vs Jjakji series in Parting's first ever Code S.
*Though Naniwa made it in the practice house.
Those were some sick fucking games too. Up there for some of the best TvPs of the year. Would have been topped by MarineKing vs PartinG except... that one thing...
I didn't watch SC2 when Inca was relevant. Did people love him or hate him?
Hated him as he denied possibly the greatest SC2 finals in WoL as we would have had Nada vs Nestea.
Eventually that hated turned into apathy as he got 4-0'd into the ground and eventually grew into a humorous caricature as he would make dt after dt after dt in every one of his games. The best part was he did just good enough to make actual Protosses around the world think his strategy of forever using DTs was a solid and relevant one.
Is that why Protoss never wins major Korean titles? Can it all be traced back to one man?
Well, long ago PvP was truly very volatile, and a lot of games came down to 4 gate vs 4 gate defense. So because the mirror matchup was so volatile, a lot of good Protosses had difficulty making it deep in tournaments.
Then in mid-late 2011, we had the 1-1-1, which led to the near extinction of Protoss in the top levels. With so many Terrans in Code S, just staying in Code S as a Protoss was an achievement (not to mention a lot of Zergs were doing well against Protoss around this time too. Coca for example had a 100% winrate against Protoss in the GSL in 2011).
In 2010 and 2011, the two major Protosses to really win anything were MC and Huk (Puzzle won a Code A, Naniwa did pretty well at a few MLGs, and Hero won Dreamhack at the end of the year). Then again, considering it all, it's not all that surprising.
EPT
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