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On July 20 2013 14:12 Havik_ wrote:
Why was Flash limping? He just destroyed Hyvaa.
I think he recently had a leg injury or something. There is a pic of his cast floating on Reddit.
Anyways, that game was way too close for comfort. Although Flash was strong as usual, Hyvaa had some good moments too. I have doubts that KT can win today.
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Well I guess Flash can't tense his feet and legs for better control in his upper body. His eyes and reaction times are impressive, but it seems Starcraft 2 micro even escapes the best macro player for Terran.
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On July 20 2013 14:15 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 14:12 jinorazi wrote:On July 20 2013 14:11 lichter wrote:On July 20 2013 14:09 Rhaegal wrote:On July 20 2013 14:08 stuchiu wrote:On July 20 2013 14:07 lichter wrote:On July 20 2013 14:05 ZombieGrub wrote:On July 20 2013 13:55 jinorazi wrote:
rofl korean casters are funny as hell (i dunno who keeps saying it)
but they're casting it as if flash already won the game and its only a matter of how he wins it Jeez, the insight of these guys is amazing. S'why I would love to see more translated korean casts. ): I mean the mid-game with muta/ling/bling always looks like it's in favor for the zerg, and it usually looks lackluster once terran's upgrades finish, but to call it so soon so well is cool. Thanks for giving insight to the korean cast. :D When this was posted, hyvaa was ahead. hyvaa started falling apart soon after, and that's only when the Korean casters' opinion became correct. They weren't right when they said it. The reason hyvaa lost was because he transitioned too fast into ultras. Like Soulkey did in his game against Innovation in PL. ZvT has become a game of constant harass, counter-harass, pushing and creep spreading. Once he lost map control, he lost the game. looked like he got badly outmacro'd to me. The ultras were the only thing that kept him in the game. He got out macro'd because he lost map control when he lost the mutas. Can't stop drops, can't deny bases. i'd say its more of flash being flash and hyvaa bad macro, he was supply blocked at crucial moments imo when flash was pushing out with marine mine. he had enough to defend but delayed on counter because of it Of course Flash had better macro, but the muta death really allowed Flash to take those northern bases, while hyvaa retook that north base soooo late in the game. Flash was consistent all game while hyvaa just couldn't sustain his level of play.
Flash was just being Macro Flash most of the game. Hyvaa really just never did an actual damage and was always trading inefficiently with Flash. Though Flash really played the Widow Mine part of the game a little too much like with Tanks. Hyvaa's tech was open to be killed at almost any point from the mid-game on, which was weird.
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Everything going as I predicted. Stats will win next but Im worried for myungsik. He did well in the IEM qualifiers but Im not sure if he can handle the pressure.
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On July 20 2013 14:16 Arceus wrote:
SoulKey & sOs for next episode of Star Hangeul. And they are eating cream(??) like...dogs
Might be maeguli (spelling?) which iirc is a kind of rice wine but at any rate is alcoholic and white.
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Bisutopia19300 Posts
I feel like I should end the night on that game.
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On July 20 2013 14:17 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 14:15 lichter wrote:On July 20 2013 14:12 jinorazi wrote:On July 20 2013 14:11 lichter wrote:On July 20 2013 14:09 Rhaegal wrote:On July 20 2013 14:08 stuchiu wrote:On July 20 2013 14:07 lichter wrote:On July 20 2013 14:05 ZombieGrub wrote:On July 20 2013 13:55 jinorazi wrote:
rofl korean casters are funny as hell (i dunno who keeps saying it)
but they're casting it as if flash already won the game and its only a matter of how he wins it Jeez, the insight of these guys is amazing. S'why I would love to see more translated korean casts. ): I mean the mid-game with muta/ling/bling always looks like it's in favor for the zerg, and it usually looks lackluster once terran's upgrades finish, but to call it so soon so well is cool. Thanks for giving insight to the korean cast. :D When this was posted, hyvaa was ahead. hyvaa started falling apart soon after, and that's only when the Korean casters' opinion became correct. They weren't right when they said it. The reason hyvaa lost was because he transitioned too fast into ultras. Like Soulkey did in his game against Innovation in PL. ZvT has become a game of constant harass, counter-harass, pushing and creep spreading. Once he lost map control, he lost the game. looked like he got badly outmacro'd to me. The ultras were the only thing that kept him in the game. He got out macro'd because he lost map control when he lost the mutas. Can't stop drops, can't deny bases. i'd say its more of flash being flash and hyvaa bad macro, he was supply blocked at crucial moments imo when flash was pushing out with marine mine. he had enough to defend but delayed on counter because of it Of course Flash had better macro, but the muta death really allowed Flash to take those northern bases, while hyvaa retook that north base soooo late in the game. Flash was consistent all game while hyvaa just couldn't sustain his level of play. Flash was just being Macro Flash most of the game. Hyvaa really just never did an actual damage and was always trading inefficiently with Flash. Though Flash really played the Widow Mine part of the game a little too much like with Tanks. Hyvaa's tech was open to be killed at almost any point from the mid-game on, which was weird.
Hyvaa was in a pretty solid position, traded as efficiently as you can really trade with banelings and mines on either side, and kept flash on 4 bases for a good period of time.
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On July 20 2013 14:18 iLoveKT wrote:
Everything going as I predicted. Stats will win next but Im worried for myungsik. He did well in the IEM qualifiers but Im not sure if he can handle the pressure.
No way myungsik beats Trap. Trap's just playing way too well right now.
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Wow STX really taking it to KT... They're looking good..
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On July 20 2013 14:18 iLoveKT wrote:
Everything going as I predicted. Stats will win next but Im worried for myungsik. He did well in the IEM qualifiers but Im not sure if he can handle the pressure.
We'll see if Myungsik is a Stats or a Wooki.
On July 20 2013 14:19 vesicular wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 14:18 iLoveKT wrote:
Everything going as I predicted. Stats will win next but Im worried for myungsik. He did well in the IEM qualifiers but Im not sure if he can handle the pressure. No way myungsik beats Trap. Trap's just playing way too well right now.
PvP.
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On July 20 2013 14:19 vesicular wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 14:18 iLoveKT wrote:
Everything going as I predicted. Stats will win next but Im worried for myungsik. He did well in the IEM qualifiers but Im not sure if he can handle the pressure. No way myungsik beats Trap. Trap's just playing way too well right now.
I'm taking you've watched the OSL but not the IEM.
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Ahh snap. Trap is the mini boss before the big boss fight.
Lets see if Kt can fight their way there or if Game Over falls over there screen first.
Was so awesome watching Flash dominate hyvaa at the end of the game (just got home now).
Hoping to see Innovation v Flash ace!
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I think Flash knew that bio forces were the best choice on that small of a map, and was relentless in proving it.
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Crazy game. I don't think it'll get to Innovation vs Flash, sadly.
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On July 20 2013 14:19 BisuDagger wrote:
I feel like I should end the night on that game.
maybe it'll go to ace?
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On July 20 2013 14:20 Epithet wrote:
Crazy game. I don't think it'll get to Innovation vs Flash, sadly.
We can hope!
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United States12989 Posts
On July 20 2013 14:15 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 14:12 jinorazi wrote:On July 20 2013 14:11 lichter wrote:On July 20 2013 14:09 Rhaegal wrote:On July 20 2013 14:08 stuchiu wrote:On July 20 2013 14:07 lichter wrote:On July 20 2013 14:05 ZombieGrub wrote:On July 20 2013 13:55 jinorazi wrote:
rofl korean casters are funny as hell (i dunno who keeps saying it)
but they're casting it as if flash already won the game and its only a matter of how he wins it Jeez, the insight of these guys is amazing. S'why I would love to see more translated korean casts. ): I mean the mid-game with muta/ling/bling always looks like it's in favor for the zerg, and it usually looks lackluster once terran's upgrades finish, but to call it so soon so well is cool. Thanks for giving insight to the korean cast. :D When this was posted, hyvaa was ahead. hyvaa started falling apart soon after, and that's only when the Korean casters' opinion became correct. They weren't right when they said it. The reason hyvaa lost was because he transitioned too fast into ultras. Like Soulkey did in his game against Innovation in PL. ZvT has become a game of constant harass, counter-harass, pushing and creep spreading. Once he lost map control, he lost the game. looked like he got badly outmacro'd to me. The ultras were the only thing that kept him in the game. He got out macro'd because he lost map control when he lost the mutas. Can't stop drops, can't deny bases. i'd say its more of flash being flash and hyvaa bad macro, he was supply blocked at crucial moments imo when flash was pushing out with marine mine. he had enough to defend but delayed on counter because of it Of course Flash had better macro, but the muta death really allowed Flash to take those northern bases, while hyvaa retook that north base soooo late in the game. Flash was consistent all game while hyvaa just couldn't sustain his level of play.
He was using his mutas wrong at that time too, and you can't just lose 1700 1700 against flash and not lose momentum
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On July 20 2013 14:20 rift wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 14:19 BisuDagger wrote:
I feel like I should end the night on that game. maybe it'll go to ace?
The last Innovation vs Flash gave me blue balls
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On July 20 2013 14:19 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2013 14:17 Taf the Ghost wrote:On July 20 2013 14:15 lichter wrote:On July 20 2013 14:12 jinorazi wrote:On July 20 2013 14:11 lichter wrote:On July 20 2013 14:09 Rhaegal wrote:On July 20 2013 14:08 stuchiu wrote:On July 20 2013 14:07 lichter wrote:On July 20 2013 14:05 ZombieGrub wrote:On July 20 2013 13:55 jinorazi wrote:
rofl korean casters are funny as hell (i dunno who keeps saying it)
but they're casting it as if flash already won the game and its only a matter of how he wins it Jeez, the insight of these guys is amazing. S'why I would love to see more translated korean casts. ): I mean the mid-game with muta/ling/bling always looks like it's in favor for the zerg, and it usually looks lackluster once terran's upgrades finish, but to call it so soon so well is cool. Thanks for giving insight to the korean cast. :D When this was posted, hyvaa was ahead. hyvaa started falling apart soon after, and that's only when the Korean casters' opinion became correct. They weren't right when they said it. The reason hyvaa lost was because he transitioned too fast into ultras. Like Soulkey did in his game against Innovation in PL. ZvT has become a game of constant harass, counter-harass, pushing and creep spreading. Once he lost map control, he lost the game. looked like he got badly outmacro'd to me. The ultras were the only thing that kept him in the game. He got out macro'd because he lost map control when he lost the mutas. Can't stop drops, can't deny bases. i'd say its more of flash being flash and hyvaa bad macro, he was supply blocked at crucial moments imo when flash was pushing out with marine mine. he had enough to defend but delayed on counter because of it Of course Flash had better macro, but the muta death really allowed Flash to take those northern bases, while hyvaa retook that north base soooo late in the game. Flash was consistent all game while hyvaa just couldn't sustain his level of play. Flash was just being Macro Flash most of the game. Hyvaa really just never did an actual damage and was always trading inefficiently with Flash. Though Flash really played the Widow Mine part of the game a little too much like with Tanks. Hyvaa's tech was open to be killed at almost any point from the mid-game on, which was weird. Hyvaa was in a pretty solid position, traded as efficiently as you can really trade with banelings and mines on either side, and kept flash on 4 bases for a good period of time.
It was during that period of the game that I was especially scared for Flash and all of KT. Thank goodness Flash managed to come back from that.
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