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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 28 2013 20:25 GMT
#1061
On July 29 2013 05:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:16 Dodgin wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yeah, looks like it's time for Nestea to call it quits.

He can't even win against foreigners anymore, and even the ZvZ isn't impressive :/

It just feels like there's no real effort put into his play anymore.


as long as nestea can win games and come to stuff like this he isn't going to quit playing I imagine, plus Snute is not just some random foreigner he's one of the best in HotS.

he also brings a lot of value to IM in terms of experience and advice he can give the younger/newer players


I just mean as a player. ofc I'd imagine he'll stay on IM in some capacity. They're doing very well.

As a player though, he very rarely does anything as far as foreign tournaments go anyway, and WCS isn't going well for him at all. I'd move on.


Nah man, he's got to stay long enough to out drink every player/caster/personality in esports.
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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8642 Posts
July 28 2013 20:25 GMT
#1062
On July 29 2013 05:20 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:17 Doublemint wrote:
How the heck did HuK win versus TLO?!

I am happy for him but did not expect that at all.


Huk is still pretty damn good. Just because he's not winning tournaments anymore (considering the level of competition, that's hardly surprising) people assume he's in a slump. He's usually one of the highest placing foreigners at major tournaments.


Of course he is still pretty good, but considering who he was able to beat in, let's say in 2011/early2012, and where he nowadays ends up in a lot of tournaments - there are worlds in between.
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 20:28:34
July 28 2013 20:25 GMT
#1063
On July 29 2013 05:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:16 Dodgin wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yeah, looks like it's time for Nestea to call it quits.

He can't even win against foreigners anymore, and even the ZvZ isn't impressive :/

It just feels like there's no real effort put into his play anymore.


as long as nestea can win games and come to stuff like this he isn't going to quit playing I imagine, plus Snute is not just some random foreigner he's one of the best in HotS.

he also brings a lot of value to IM in terms of experience and advice he can give the younger/newer players


I just mean as a player. ofc I'd imagine he'll stay on IM in some capacity. They're doing very well.

As a player though, he very rarely does anything as far as foreign tournaments go anyway, and WCS isn't going well for him at all. I'd move on.


why stop playing and coach when you can do both though? he probably already does coaching in some capacity and has for a while. I know Hirai mentioned at the GSTL finals that he wasn't able to be around and help the team prepare for the finals because of some personal, issues so I imagine nestea stepped up to take care of that.

I mean you can either be a player and come to cool events like this or be a coach and follow the other players around all day, what would you pick?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 28 2013 20:26 GMT
#1064
On July 29 2013 05:24 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:16 Dodgin wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yeah, looks like it's time for Nestea to call it quits.

He can't even win against foreigners anymore, and even the ZvZ isn't impressive :/

It just feels like there's no real effort put into his play anymore.


as long as nestea can win games and come to stuff like this he isn't going to quit playing I imagine, plus Snute is not just some random foreigner he's one of the best in HotS.

he also brings a lot of value to IM in terms of experience and advice he can give the younger/newer players


I just mean as a player. ofc I'd imagine he'll stay on IM in some capacity. They're doing very well.

As a player though, he very rarely does anything as far as foreign tournaments go anyway, and WCS isn't going well for him at all. I'd move on.


Nestea hasn't been a strong player in 2 years.


what would a guy who registered on TL less than a month ago know about nestea?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 28 2013 20:27 GMT
#1065
On July 29 2013 05:24 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:16 Dodgin wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yeah, looks like it's time for Nestea to call it quits.

He can't even win against foreigners anymore, and even the ZvZ isn't impressive :/

It just feels like there's no real effort put into his play anymore.


as long as nestea can win games and come to stuff like this he isn't going to quit playing I imagine, plus Snute is not just some random foreigner he's one of the best in HotS.

he also brings a lot of value to IM in terms of experience and advice he can give the younger/newer players


I just mean as a player. ofc I'd imagine he'll stay on IM in some capacity. They're doing very well.

As a player though, he very rarely does anything as far as foreign tournaments go anyway, and WCS isn't going well for him at all. I'd move on.


Nestea hasn't been a strong player in 2 years.

he recently all killed nshoseo, i mean it's definetely not the strongest team, but he is still better than some koreans, you guys mix up "being strong" and "winning tournaments".
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 28 2013 20:28 GMT
#1066
On July 29 2013 05:24 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:16 Dodgin wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yeah, looks like it's time for Nestea to call it quits.

He can't even win against foreigners anymore, and even the ZvZ isn't impressive :/

It just feels like there's no real effort put into his play anymore.


as long as nestea can win games and come to stuff like this he isn't going to quit playing I imagine, plus Snute is not just some random foreigner he's one of the best in HotS.

he also brings a lot of value to IM in terms of experience and advice he can give the younger/newer players


I just mean as a player. ofc I'd imagine he'll stay on IM in some capacity. They're doing very well.

As a player though, he very rarely does anything as far as foreign tournaments go anyway, and WCS isn't going well for him at all. I'd move on.


Nestea hasn't been a strong player in 2 years.


Well that's not entirely true. He took 3rd at Iron Squid just this year <_>

but nowadays, I don't even see the strategic brilliance of Nestea anymore. I just mean when you already see Nestea at foreign tournaments and GSTL once every blue moon and the premiere league isn't going well...AND you're about to be a married man, well I'd think now is a good time to hang up the keyboard.

Not hating on the guy, Nestea has always been one of my favorite players but even I can't defend Nestea at this point if that's all he's got. Just seems more logical to transition into something else.
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 28 2013 20:29 GMT
#1067
On July 29 2013 05:25 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:24 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:16 Dodgin wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yeah, looks like it's time for Nestea to call it quits.

He can't even win against foreigners anymore, and even the ZvZ isn't impressive :/

It just feels like there's no real effort put into his play anymore.


as long as nestea can win games and come to stuff like this he isn't going to quit playing I imagine, plus Snute is not just some random foreigner he's one of the best in HotS.

he also brings a lot of value to IM in terms of experience and advice he can give the younger/newer players


I just mean as a player. ofc I'd imagine he'll stay on IM in some capacity. They're doing very well.

As a player though, he very rarely does anything as far as foreign tournaments go anyway, and WCS isn't going well for him at all. I'd move on.


Nestea hasn't been a strong player in 2 years.

Read up on what you want to talk about before you start spouting dumb stuff.


haha, that's exactly what I looked up too...
That comment is so stupid. Nestea hasn't been the best player in the world anymore, granted. But he has been a Code S player until 2013 which made him a top10 zerg worldwide.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
July 28 2013 20:29 GMT
#1068
Is Snute still rumored to have very strong ZvP?
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 28 2013 20:29 GMT
#1069
So many cute girl on the crowd.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 28 2013 20:30 GMT
#1070
On July 29 2013 05:29 Tachion wrote:
Is Snute still rumored to have very strong ZvP?

yep he has nice viper timings, tough to deal with. but i am still rooting for chris, such a likeable guy <3
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 28 2013 20:30 GMT
#1071
Oooh they're keyboard keys.

They should've been chocolate.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 28 2013 20:30 GMT
#1072
On July 29 2013 05:29 Tachion wrote:
Is Snute still rumored to have very strong ZvP?

Eh, he's pretty much even in all of his matchups based on statistics, with a slight edge to his ZvZ. His ZvP is perceived to be his weakest (I think), but I think he's still pretty good.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 28 2013 20:31 GMT
#1073
On July 29 2013 05:29 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:25 AgentW wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:24 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:16 Dodgin wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yeah, looks like it's time for Nestea to call it quits.

He can't even win against foreigners anymore, and even the ZvZ isn't impressive :/

It just feels like there's no real effort put into his play anymore.


as long as nestea can win games and come to stuff like this he isn't going to quit playing I imagine, plus Snute is not just some random foreigner he's one of the best in HotS.

he also brings a lot of value to IM in terms of experience and advice he can give the younger/newer players


I just mean as a player. ofc I'd imagine he'll stay on IM in some capacity. They're doing very well.

As a player though, he very rarely does anything as far as foreign tournaments go anyway, and WCS isn't going well for him at all. I'd move on.


Nestea hasn't been a strong player in 2 years.

Read up on what you want to talk about before you start spouting dumb stuff.


haha, that's exactly what I looked up too...
That comment is so stupid. Nestea hasn't been the best player in the world anymore, granted. But he has been a Code S player until 2013 which made him a top10 zerg worldwide.


When's the last time he's been mentioned as one of the favorites to win a GSL, or a tournament that isn't riddled with foreigners? There are probably 3+ dozen zergs better than him now, many of which are foreigners...
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 28 2013 20:31 GMT
#1074
HuK's obviously grumpy about the lack of faith from Aligulac.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 28 2013 20:31 GMT
#1075
On July 29 2013 05:31 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:29 Big J wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:25 AgentW wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:24 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:16 Dodgin wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yeah, looks like it's time for Nestea to call it quits.

He can't even win against foreigners anymore, and even the ZvZ isn't impressive :/

It just feels like there's no real effort put into his play anymore.


as long as nestea can win games and come to stuff like this he isn't going to quit playing I imagine, plus Snute is not just some random foreigner he's one of the best in HotS.

he also brings a lot of value to IM in terms of experience and advice he can give the younger/newer players


I just mean as a player. ofc I'd imagine he'll stay on IM in some capacity. They're doing very well.

As a player though, he very rarely does anything as far as foreign tournaments go anyway, and WCS isn't going well for him at all. I'd move on.


Nestea hasn't been a strong player in 2 years.

Read up on what you want to talk about before you start spouting dumb stuff.


haha, that's exactly what I looked up too...
That comment is so stupid. Nestea hasn't been the best player in the world anymore, granted. But he has been a Code S player until 2013 which made him a top10 zerg worldwide.


When's the last time he's been mentioned as one of the favorites to win a GSL, or a tournament that isn't riddled with foreigners? There are probably 3+ dozen zergs better than him now, many of which are foreigners...

Are you really saying that you're only a strong player if you're pegged to win a GSL or other major tournaments?

Damn.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-28 20:32:28
July 28 2013 20:32 GMT
#1076
On July 29 2013 05:31 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:29 Big J wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:25 AgentW wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:24 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:16 Dodgin wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yeah, looks like it's time for Nestea to call it quits.

He can't even win against foreigners anymore, and even the ZvZ isn't impressive :/

It just feels like there's no real effort put into his play anymore.


as long as nestea can win games and come to stuff like this he isn't going to quit playing I imagine, plus Snute is not just some random foreigner he's one of the best in HotS.

he also brings a lot of value to IM in terms of experience and advice he can give the younger/newer players


I just mean as a player. ofc I'd imagine he'll stay on IM in some capacity. They're doing very well.

As a player though, he very rarely does anything as far as foreign tournaments go anyway, and WCS isn't going well for him at all. I'd move on.


Nestea hasn't been a strong player in 2 years.

Read up on what you want to talk about before you start spouting dumb stuff.


haha, that's exactly what I looked up too...
That comment is so stupid. Nestea hasn't been the best player in the world anymore, granted. But he has been a Code S player until 2013 which made him a top10 zerg worldwide.


When's the last time he's been mentioned as one of the favorites to win a GSL, or a tournament that isn't riddled with foreigners? There are probably 3+ dozen zergs better than him now, many of which are foreigners...

The season Seed won. Got fucked up by Byun, never contended as closely again.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 28 2013 20:32 GMT
#1077
On July 29 2013 05:31 KristofferAG wrote:
HuK's obviously grumpy about the lack of faith from Aligulac.

aligulac is such a snitch ._.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 28 2013 20:32 GMT
#1078
Heh, Red Bull's hired someone to start the applause. Heh.

Hehehehe.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 28 2013 20:32 GMT
#1079
On July 29 2013 05:31 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 05:31 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:29 Big J wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:25 AgentW wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:24 Rhaegal wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:21 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:16 Dodgin wrote:
On July 29 2013 05:14 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Yeah, looks like it's time for Nestea to call it quits.

He can't even win against foreigners anymore, and even the ZvZ isn't impressive :/

It just feels like there's no real effort put into his play anymore.


as long as nestea can win games and come to stuff like this he isn't going to quit playing I imagine, plus Snute is not just some random foreigner he's one of the best in HotS.

he also brings a lot of value to IM in terms of experience and advice he can give the younger/newer players


I just mean as a player. ofc I'd imagine he'll stay on IM in some capacity. They're doing very well.

As a player though, he very rarely does anything as far as foreign tournaments go anyway, and WCS isn't going well for him at all. I'd move on.


Nestea hasn't been a strong player in 2 years.

Read up on what you want to talk about before you start spouting dumb stuff.


haha, that's exactly what I looked up too...
That comment is so stupid. Nestea hasn't been the best player in the world anymore, granted. But he has been a Code S player until 2013 which made him a top10 zerg worldwide.


When's the last time he's been mentioned as one of the favorites to win a GSL, or a tournament that isn't riddled with foreigners? There are probably 3+ dozen zergs better than him now, many of which are foreigners...

Are you really saying that you're only a strong player if you're pegged to win a GSL or other major tournaments?

Damn.

Yeah obviously, no matter how solid you are, even with a 90% winrate you are not a strong player if you've never won a GSL.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
July 28 2013 20:32 GMT
#1080
I dont know who to root for
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