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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 12 2013 12:39 GMT
#1241
On July 12 2013 21:37 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:36 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:35 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:34 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:33 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:30 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:29 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:27 DJHelium wrote:
Really curious, how does P beat this build? It's so strong, almost always destroys the third base. Did HyuN lose any games with it?

I'm guessing attack some time before he gets 70 drones at 9 minutes and then goes into 9 minute hive.


the moment the phoenix see hive morphing p probes up 3rd and starts templar archive, 3-4 hts for feedback and stay in defensive position and its pretty easy to hold

really? gotta try this today on ladder! i have so much trouble with these flying things :o

I highly doubt you're going to see anything like that on the ladder. That was a weird, weird build.


lots of korean zergs and especially hyun do this build every time vs phoenix openings, its definitely not a weird build

They rush hive that hard? I guess I haven't been paying attention closely enough. 9 minute hive is the fastest that I've ever seen in SC2.

also, snute was talking about this hive timing during hsc. he said that's what he always does in the teamhouse and it works really well.

I guess I haven't been paying attention to PvZ enough then. I barely watched any HSC because I was traveling so I didn't know Snute was using it. Good luck on the ladder against it then. :D
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
July 12 2013 12:40 GMT
#1242
On July 12 2013 21:32 Arceus wrote:
btw this is just in

Judah ‏@Ethan_Ahn 13m
one of the starcraft2 korea team will be dismantled. soon. (not AZUBU) Wait for the official announcement.

i think prime
yo
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
July 12 2013 12:40 GMT
#1243
On July 12 2013 21:39 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:37 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:36 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:35 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:34 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:33 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:30 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:29 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:27 DJHelium wrote:
Really curious, how does P beat this build? It's so strong, almost always destroys the third base. Did HyuN lose any games with it?

I'm guessing attack some time before he gets 70 drones at 9 minutes and then goes into 9 minute hive.


the moment the phoenix see hive morphing p probes up 3rd and starts templar archive, 3-4 hts for feedback and stay in defensive position and its pretty easy to hold

really? gotta try this today on ladder! i have so much trouble with these flying things :o

I highly doubt you're going to see anything like that on the ladder. That was a weird, weird build.


lots of korean zergs and especially hyun do this build every time vs phoenix openings, its definitely not a weird build

They rush hive that hard? I guess I haven't been paying attention closely enough. 9 minute hive is the fastest that I've ever seen in SC2.

also, snute was talking about this hive timing during hsc. he said that's what he always does in the teamhouse and it works really well.

I guess I haven't been paying attention to PvZ enough then. I barely watched any HSC because I was traveling so I didn't know Snute was using it. Good luck on the ladder against it then. :D


Check out some HyuN vods, he does it all the time!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 12:41:43
July 12 2013 12:40 GMT
#1244
On July 12 2013 21:40 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:32 Arceus wrote:
btw this is just in

Judah ‏@Ethan_Ahn 13m
one of the starcraft2 korea team will be dismantled. soon. (not AZUBU) Wait for the official announcement.

i think prime


As long as it isn't NSHS... They're still waiting to win by attrition.

Also, are these good protoss games to watch and learn, or were they just the entertaining kind of games?
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 12 2013 12:41 GMT
#1245
On July 12 2013 21:39 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:37 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:36 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:35 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:34 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:33 Undead1993 wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:30 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:29 AgentW wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:27 DJHelium wrote:
Really curious, how does P beat this build? It's so strong, almost always destroys the third base. Did HyuN lose any games with it?

I'm guessing attack some time before he gets 70 drones at 9 minutes and then goes into 9 minute hive.


the moment the phoenix see hive morphing p probes up 3rd and starts templar archive, 3-4 hts for feedback and stay in defensive position and its pretty easy to hold

really? gotta try this today on ladder! i have so much trouble with these flying things :o

I highly doubt you're going to see anything like that on the ladder. That was a weird, weird build.


lots of korean zergs and especially hyun do this build every time vs phoenix openings, its definitely not a weird build

They rush hive that hard? I guess I haven't been paying attention closely enough. 9 minute hive is the fastest that I've ever seen in SC2.

also, snute was talking about this hive timing during hsc. he said that's what he always does in the teamhouse and it works really well.

I guess I haven't been paying attention to PvZ enough then. I barely watched any HSC because I was traveling so I didn't know Snute was using it. Good luck on the ladder against it then. :D

hehehe thank you ^_^
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
July 12 2013 12:41 GMT
#1246
On July 12 2013 21:40 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:32 Arceus wrote:
btw this is just in

Judah ‏@Ethan_Ahn 13m
one of the starcraft2 korea team will be dismantled. soon. (not AZUBU) Wait for the official announcement.

i think prime

opterown assures us it's not prime, i'm feeling nsh or stx.
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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 12 2013 12:41 GMT
#1247
On July 12 2013 21:40 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:32 Arceus wrote:
btw this is just in

Judah ‏@Ethan_Ahn 13m
one of the starcraft2 korea team will be dismantled. soon. (not AZUBU) Wait for the official announcement.

i think prime


As it was said before, prime just recruited 4 new members and moved into a new house, it´s probably NSH (which I doubt, for some reason) or STX.
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
July 12 2013 12:43 GMT
#1248
Oh god... EG innovation? Who will snap him up? Anyone want to guess how long that will take?
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
July 12 2013 12:43 GMT
#1249
It's gotta be NSH. STX is still in proleague playoff right? Doesn't make sense for them to disband them right then and there. I think it's NSH though.
"Want some? Go get some!"
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
July 12 2013 12:44 GMT
#1250
On July 12 2013 21:41 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:40 Killmouse wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:32 Arceus wrote:
btw this is just in

Judah ‏@Ethan_Ahn 13m
one of the starcraft2 korea team will be dismantled. soon. (not AZUBU) Wait for the official announcement.

i think prime


As it was said before, prime just recruited 4 new members and moved into a new house, it´s probably NSH (which I doubt, for some reason) or STX.

they stated in an interview that they are not in a good financial situation, new house =! good siituation, but i agree could be stx aswell

i dont think its nshs cauz we thought they would disband all the time but they didnt lulz and their university sponsors them so i think they are ok
yo
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
July 12 2013 12:45 GMT
#1251
Fantastic play by Symbol, that is really the way to play roach-hydra styles nowadays yet you don't see it often.
One evo chamber into quick hive is really the way to go, ranged attack upgrade is far better than armor anyway and the quick vipers are great against colossi. Somehow people don't often seem to realize infestation pit + hive is hardly more expensive than spire tech and vipers are much better counter to colossi early on than corruptors. You need less and they not only counter colossi but forcefields and MSC/warp prism shenanigans as well.
The second evo later for carapace and going into melee upgrades is great too, overall it's better to go ultra at that point imo, but broodlords are a nice finishing move (they tend to be only good if you're ahead). I'd really like to see zergs getting just 1 or 2 infestors with this strategy though, you don't NEED pathogen glands to get infestors (in fact they have just as much energy if you just start infestors asap when the pit finishes). Just a few fungals provides fantastic utility, fungal + blinding cloud is great against stalkers and just being able to prevent protoss from running away too easily is great.

Key to beat this for protoss is to not be too sentry heavy I think and do a MSC timing before the hive finishes. Avenge could easily have killed the fourth or even the third and backed off safely for example. If Avenge didn't forget range either you can position the colossi to be virtually safe from the vipers, especially if you have blink you can generally snipe off the vipers with a forward blink. After that just transition into templar after like 2-3 colossi while making immortals from your robo is a fine way to play against this. I still don't get why some protoss are not making voids with their stargate if they have it sitting idle anyway, they are just sweet for taking down vipers/corruptors quickly and make you ball up better, ie have better concave..
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 12 2013 12:47 GMT
#1252
LGIM.Jjakji inc
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 12 2013 12:48 GMT
#1253
On July 12 2013 21:43 LiLSighKoh wrote:
It's gotta be NSH. STX is still in proleague playoff right? Doesn't make sense for them to disband them right then and there. I think it's NSH though.


It could just be to say STX will cease to exist after proleague so their fans can come out and cheer for them one last time before they disband.

Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 12 2013 12:49 GMT
#1254
On July 12 2013 21:47 Schelim wrote:
LGIM.Jjakji inc


This would be so good!
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 12:56:16
July 12 2013 12:53 GMT
#1255
On July 12 2013 21:39 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:37 Zealously wrote:
Of all the days Genius could be good, he fucking chose this one? TT


Get that man back into Code S!

No seriously Genius, wtf I'm still stunned.


People underestimate Genius.

Yes, he's been "asleep" for quite a while. Yes there were rumours he was going to quit. Yes there was also talk that he was basically playing LoL full time and never practicing SC2. Yes he hasn't been on top of his game for a while.

But don't forget this is a guy who was fairly consistently in Code S through 2011 and 2012. This is a guy who made it to a Code S finals; in the process going through DRG, sC, MarineKing, Nestea, MC and aLive. He took two games off DRG again in said finals. His only maps dropped before the finals were against MarineKing (who he lost to once and then went 2-1 in the final group match) and one map to NesTea.

He has the ability there. He just hasn't shown it in a while. However "form is temporary, class is permanent".


As for the disbanding thing...with all the rumours I'm feeling STX as well.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 12 2013 13:11 GMT
#1256
On July 12 2013 21:53 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:39 bittman wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:37 Zealously wrote:
Of all the days Genius could be good, he fucking chose this one? TT


Get that man back into Code S!

No seriously Genius, wtf I'm still stunned.


People underestimate Genius.

Yes, he's been "asleep" for quite a while. Yes there were rumours he was going to quit. Yes there was also talk that he was basically playing LoL full time and never practicing SC2. Yes he hasn't been on top of his game for a while.

But don't forget this is a guy who was fairly consistently in Code S through 2011 and 2012. This is a guy who made it to a Code S finals; in the process going through DRG, sC, MarineKing, Nestea, MC and aLive. He took two games off DRG again in said finals. His only maps dropped before the finals were against MarineKing (who he lost to once and then went 2-1 in the final group match) and one map to NesTea.

He has the ability there. He just hasn't shown it in a while. However "form is temporary, class is permanent".


As for the disbanding thing...with all the rumours I'm feeling STX as well.


Idk about that, I think it is more about people underestimating him + protoss having great cheese+all in play. I don't think he would come far in OSL at all.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
July 12 2013 13:24 GMT
#1257
Holy shit!! Happy to see Genius finally getting clutch wins! I was getting a little worried, but good thing Symbol was able to close it.
Congrats Azubu!
sickle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand656 Posts
July 12 2013 13:46 GMT
#1258
The comeback of The Genius has begun.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
July 12 2013 14:13 GMT
#1259
On July 12 2013 21:39 bittman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:37 Zealously wrote:
Of all the days Genius could be good, he fucking chose this one? TT


Get that man back into Code S!

No seriously Genius, wtf I'm still stunned.

Genius chose WCS EU... He won't be back in Code S until the inevitable region lock happens.
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
July 12 2013 14:26 GMT
#1260
On July 12 2013 23:13 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 21:39 bittman wrote:
On July 12 2013 21:37 Zealously wrote:
Of all the days Genius could be good, he fucking chose this one? TT


Get that man back into Code S!

No seriously Genius, wtf I'm still stunned.

Genius chose WCS EU... He won't be back in Code S until the inevitable region lock happens.

Those three guys who actually are going to watch WCS EU and WCS AM are going to be happy about it.
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