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skipdog172
Profile Joined June 2010
United States331 Posts
July 10 2013 15:47 GMT
#241
On July 10 2013 23:57 elfonse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 23:47 skipdog172 wrote:
I can't believe IEM allowed this.

I'm just kind of furious right now that this precedent has been set. How many other games are teams going to simply request don't get broadcasted?

I can't believe there isn't more outrage. This should be a top news story.


Not a big deal to me since this is qualifiers. If it were during the main tournament I would be super raged!!


Ahhh ok. That makes me feel a little better.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
July 10 2013 15:56 GMT
#242
loool another batch of weak kespa players send to a foreign tournament... It seems like they don't really care about these tournaments.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 10 2013 16:02 GMT
#243
On July 11 2013 00:56 Elroi wrote:
loool another batch of weak kespa players send to a foreign tournament... It seems like they don't really care about these tournaments.

they are not even sure to go... there is still one more stage with 8 players we don't know yet
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
TumNarDok
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany854 Posts
July 10 2013 16:04 GMT
#244
On July 10 2013 21:21 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 21:19 TriZ wrote:
No innovation?
Rooting for Flash then !
Too bad, Cure, TY and Flash in same group hope 2 of them get qualified.

Stork & CoCa for group B!!!

gogo Reality in group D

Group C is like 75% protoss or something :o


Carmac tweeted this yesterday:

Michal Blicharz ‏@mbCARMAC 22h
#IEM Shanghai KR qualifier signups: top 4 #IEM World Ch. [x], top 4 #WCS Korea [x], top 4 #WCS America [x], #WCS Europe winner Juergen [x].

So maybe Soulkey, sOs and Innovation will be seeded in stage 2.


They may even be seeded directly into the final tournament.
There is 4 spots/invites reserved for top WCS players
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 10 2013 16:48 GMT
#245
On July 11 2013 01:04 TumNarDok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 21:21 Lorning wrote:
On July 10 2013 21:19 TriZ wrote:
No innovation?
Rooting for Flash then !
Too bad, Cure, TY and Flash in same group hope 2 of them get qualified.

Stork & CoCa for group B!!!

gogo Reality in group D

Group C is like 75% protoss or something :o


Carmac tweeted this yesterday:

Michal Blicharz ‏@mbCARMAC 22h
#IEM Shanghai KR qualifier signups: top 4 #IEM World Ch. [x], top 4 #WCS Korea [x], top 4 #WCS America [x], #WCS Europe winner Juergen [x].

So maybe Soulkey, sOs and Innovation will be seeded in stage 2.


They may even be seeded directly into the final tournament.
There is 4 spots/invites reserved for top WCS players


Asked Carmay a few days ago on twitter, ESL pays travel costs for qualifiers, not for invites, so they try to qualify first, to avoid costs and if that does´nt work, may be invited later.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 16:54:06
July 10 2013 16:53 GMT
#246
The bracket of the KeSPA qualifier is something to look at, Mini defeating Cure and Flash and Savage going rampage on EffOrt, TY and Mini! Stork beating Argo(Jaehoon) 2-0 is pretty funny as well. And who's this toss eMotion? He beat Terminator and Stats two to zero. Reality qualified without dropping a game, he's on my FPL next season
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 18:14:26
July 10 2013 18:14 GMT
#247
Foreign tournaments need to grow a backbone and need to stop letting kespa dictate things to them. It's embarrassing.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-10 18:44:28
July 10 2013 18:41 GMT
#248
On July 11 2013 00:56 Elroi wrote:
loool another batch of weak kespa players send to a foreign tournament... It seems like they don't really care about these tournaments.


Lol so when the stronger Kespa players lose to the weaker Kespa players in a qualifier, your theory is that they simply don't care? Sorry if these upsets hurt your notions of how good certain players are, but I highly doubt they lost because they didn't care and neglected to prepare/practice/try hard enough.

I think a more reasonable theory is that Kespa players' greatest strength is preparation and that in a format where many games are played back-to-back in a short time, that strength isn't apparent and thus strange results like this happen.
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 10 2013 18:45 GMT
#249
On July 11 2013 00:56 Elroi wrote:
loool another batch of weak kespa players send to a foreign tournament... It seems like they don't really care about these tournaments.


Why would they? Their sponsors are Korean, and their primary focus is proleague. They throw the foreigners a bone, albeit small one.

Still, Reality is not "weak." He's as good or better than a lot of hyped terrans like Bomber or Taeja.
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
Rhaegal
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States678 Posts
July 10 2013 18:54 GMT
#250
On July 10 2013 21:47 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 21:41 Rhaegal wrote:
what did Flash do wrong? It looked like he was playing perfectly for the entire game, then I glance away for one second and look back and it's 170 supply vs 90...

I feel the late Armory is the main culprit here, 10'30 Armory into +2 bio SCV Vikings all-in would have prevailed.



Major said that scv timings are the only strong option T has against P. I guess that's why so many Koreans do it. Guess I need to research the timings more tho, because whenever I try it I get stomped.


14% TvP this season TT
http://www.twitch.tv/agonysc
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
July 10 2013 23:42 GMT
#251
Kespa qualifiers seems to always produce unexpected results.
Woo Jung Ho
Duckvillelol
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia1253 Posts
July 10 2013 23:55 GMT
#252
Thanks for tuning in everyone, Zepph and I alongside Nate had some fun casting. Again I do apologise for the wait at the start but unfortunately the Kespa guys were told the wrong time (an hour later...), but other than that things were run really smoothly, thanks to the ESLAdmin and the Kespa manager that we worked with.

I got to cast young fella Ty(Baby) which was interesting for me, considering I remember first seeing him when he looked like this as a 12 year old in GomTV Avertec Intel Classic :D

As for the Flash controversy, unfortunately I don't know too much more than you guys, only that word is Flash was trying something new but other than that I don't know, I was busy looking after my content. Speaking of which; big thanks to Fenner for helping out HEAPS and Zepph for being awesome co-casting.

A couple of things:

On July 10 2013 23:14 Tsubbi wrote:
duckville sometimes sounds 100% like kermit the frog lol


I don't even - I can actually do a really good impression of Kermit (and Arnie) but that's the first time I've had someone say that when I wasn't doing the impression hahaha xD

On July 10 2013 22:57 Arceus wrote:
The Escala is strong with Duckville stream


Love that Escala <3
Former SC2 commentator. youtube.com/duckvillelol
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
July 11 2013 01:24 GMT
#253
On July 11 2013 03:41 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 00:56 Elroi wrote:
loool another batch of weak kespa players send to a foreign tournament... It seems like they don't really care about these tournaments.


Lol so when the stronger Kespa players lose to the weaker Kespa players in a qualifier, your theory is that they simply don't care? Sorry if these upsets hurt your notions of how good certain players are, but I highly doubt they lost because they didn't care and neglected to prepare/practice/try hard enough.

I think a more reasonable theory is that Kespa players' greatest strength is preparation and that in a format where many games are played back-to-back in a short time, that strength isn't apparent and thus strange results like this happen.


Don't worry about it, it's the common excuse. Fan favourites only lose because the sun was in their eyes, or some other excuse.

Welcome to starcraft 2. B-teamers can beat A-teamers. I prefer seeing the future come out of more open qualifiers as opposed to seeing the same names all the time.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
ESLAsia
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong218 Posts
July 12 2013 08:50 GMT
#254
It is time to put an end to the wait.

The 4 remaining players for Stage 2 are : (T)Ryung, (Z)KangHo, (T)Mvp and (T)INnoVation

It will be broadcasted live on ESL TV : http://www.esl.tv this Monday.
http://beta.esl.asia/asia/sc2/masters
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 12 2013 08:50 GMT
#255
On July 12 2013 17:50 ESLAsia wrote:
It is time to put an end to the wait.

The 4 remaining players for Stage 2 are : (T)Ryung, (Z)KangHo, (T)Mvp and (T)INnoVation

It will be broadcasted live on ESL TV : http://www.esl.tv this Monday.


OH SHI--

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elfonse
Profile Joined March 2011
416 Posts
July 12 2013 09:00 GMT
#256
couldnt ask for a better demonstration of the new post patch TvT
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
July 12 2013 09:17 GMT
#257
Mvp!!!
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
July 12 2013 10:26 GMT
#258
I actually like this batch of Kespa players more =) Savage fighting!
Chris_CityHunter
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia310 Posts
July 12 2013 22:44 GMT
#259
On July 11 2013 00:56 Elroi wrote:
loool another batch of weak kespa players send to a foreign tournament... It seems like they don't really care about these tournaments.


On July 12 2013 17:50 ESLAsia wrote:
It is time to put an end to the wait.

The 4 remaining players for Stage 2 are : (T)Ryung, (Z)KangHo, (T)Mvp and (T)INnoVation

It will be broadcasted live on ESL TV : http://www.esl.tv this Monday.


lol yeah man that INoVation guy, just some no name kespa player huh?
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
July 12 2013 22:53 GMT
#260
On July 11 2013 03:45 Rhaegal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 00:56 Elroi wrote:
loool another batch of weak kespa players send to a foreign tournament... It seems like they don't really care about these tournaments.


Why would they? Their sponsors are Korean, and their primary focus is proleague. They throw the foreigners a bone, albeit small one.

Still, Reality is not "weak." He's as good or better than a lot of hyped terrans like Bomber or Taeja.


Based on what I saw from Bomber vs Flash in Starleague a few days ago Id say Reality is nowhere near as good as Bomber.
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