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On July 02 2013 20:55 NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote: Fantasy what happened. Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself. His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down. Hellbat drops with no damage happened.* I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine. Its not a whine, its the truth. People saying hellbat drops without damage still leave you ahead, which is complete and utter bullshit. I quoted the wrong post of his, this is what I should have quoted.
First showing us Terrans a glimpse of the nightmare awaiting us when all Protoss learn and master this style.
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On July 02 2013 20:53 Kettchup wrote: Outside of that one bungled retreat that was a beautiful game from First. Some of the best Phoenix micro I've seen, hopefully we get First against Mutas someday.
Fantasy...doesn't seem to know there are more than 3 bases on the map. He has a tough time handling the zealots, but that's what planetaries are for. His harassment also completely disappeared after the early game. Once the phoenix were taken out/accounted for he should've been zooming more hellbats around.
Not sure which LG-IM Protoss it was, but I remember phoenix play in the IEM Season VII World Championship. The Protoss player demolished the Zerg that went air even after adding on Corruptors.
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On July 02 2013 20:56 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote: Fantasy what happened. Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself. His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down. Hellbat drops with no damage happened.* I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine. I think he's more just following me around telling me how bad mech is and that I should give up. ?? I don't stalk you, I don't care what style you play and I never told you to change it.
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On July 02 2013 20:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:55 NarutO wrote:On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote: Fantasy what happened. Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself. His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down. Hellbat drops with no damage happened.* I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine. Its not a whine, its the truth. People saying hellbat drops without damage still leave you ahead, which is complete and utter bullshit. who said that? To be totally honest, hellbats doing no damage because of overdefense might put you ahead. If he is too scared to do anything (even take his 3rd for too long) you can probably make the best of the situation
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who actually thought first would lose against fantasy???
Firsts PvT is terrific. Maybe if first would have gotten nervous fantasy could have beaten him. But otherwise theres no way
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On July 02 2013 20:56 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:55 Tanzklaue wrote: what do the different colors around the playerportraits mean? It relates to the "Grand Master/Master/Challenger" titles when introduced Blue means "Challenger" Challenger saying "fuck you colour system" right now how did the titles determined? grand master is the champion I guess, but what makes a master a master and a challenger a challenger?
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On July 02 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:56 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote: Fantasy what happened. Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself. His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down. Hellbat drops with no damage happened.* I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine. I think he's more just following me around telling me how bad mech is and that I should give up. ?? I don't stalk you, I don't care what style you play and I never told you to change it.
My sarcasm seemed to have gone over your head there. Sorry about that :p
The real person who does that is marknwerf. I've got no real issue with you Dwf <3
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Instead of a bunker, put 2 hellbats in between mineral patches, and say goodbye to your zealots harass problems ! Or a pair of mines in your nat entrance.
Anyway, championship level of play by First, his ro32 wasn't a fluke !
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On July 02 2013 20:57 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:On July 02 2013 20:55 NarutO wrote:On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote: Fantasy what happened. Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself. His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down. Hellbat drops with no damage happened.* I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine. Its not a whine, its the truth. People saying hellbat drops without damage still leave you ahead, which is complete and utter bullshit. who said that? I guess you've been lucky enough to be avoiding SC2 general recently.
I carry knives and sc2 general is like a gun fight....
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Sensational play from First, just beautiful to watch. And I'm Terran.
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On July 02 2013 20:58 Bam Lee wrote: who actually thought first would lose against fantasy???
Firsts PvT is terrific. Maybe if first would have gotten nervous fantasy could have beaten him. But otherwise theres no way
Pigscanfly did! (he wrote the TL preview)
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On July 02 2013 20:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:55 NarutO wrote:On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote: Fantasy what happened. Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself. His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down. Hellbat drops with no damage happened.* I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine. Its not a whine, its the truth. People saying hellbat drops without damage still leave you ahead, which is complete and utter bullshit. who said that?
just chiming in: there are lot of scenarios in TvT where you can defend near perfectly and still fall behind because of how quickly you can get a third command center and infrastructure since the hellbat drops don't actually cost that much (especially since you're getting an armory anyways) and how much money it takes to defend them (vikings turrets engie bay bunker etc.) + the mining time lost if you're forced to run.
TvP it's completely inapplicable though.
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On July 02 2013 20:57 bo1b wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:55 NarutO wrote:On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote: Fantasy what happened. Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself. His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down. Hellbat drops with no damage happened.* I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine. Its not a whine, its the truth. People saying hellbat drops without damage still leave you ahead, which is complete and utter bullshit. I quoted the wrong post of his, this is what I should have quoted. Show nested quote +First showing us Terrans a glimpse of the nightmare awaiting us when all Protoss learn and master this style. So saying something is efficient and hard to defend = "whining" in your book?
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On July 02 2013 20:59 Dodgin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:58 Bam Lee wrote: who actually thought first would lose against fantasy???
Firsts PvT is terrific. Maybe if first would have gotten nervous fantasy could have beaten him. But otherwise theres no way Pigscanfly did! (he wrote the TL preview) He predicted bomber to lose. pigscanfly is no prophet i believe in.
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On July 02 2013 20:58 MrCon wrote: Instead of a bunker, put 2 hellbats in between mineral patches, and say goodbye to your zealots harass problems ! Or a pair of mine in your nat entrance.
Anyway, championship level of play by First, his ro32 wasn't a fluke !
5 Zealot runby Mine hits, 4 zealots left, 1 mine left Zealots charged into the mineral line, mine hits 20 scvs in the red, 3 zealots left pull scvs 5 scvs still alive-_-
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On July 02 2013 20:59 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:59 Dodgin wrote:On July 02 2013 20:58 Bam Lee wrote: who actually thought first would lose against fantasy???
Firsts PvT is terrific. Maybe if first would have gotten nervous fantasy could have beaten him. But otherwise theres no way Pigscanfly did! (he wrote the TL preview) He predicted bomber to lose. pigscanfly is no prophet i believe in. It does mean he'll probably be getting a pen soon
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On July 02 2013 20:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:55 NarutO wrote:On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote: Fantasy what happened. Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself. His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down. Hellbat drops with no damage happened.* I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine. Its not a whine, its the truth. People saying hellbat drops without damage still leave you ahead, which is complete and utter bullshit. who said that? Innovation vs sOs WCS game 1. Innovation lost like 4 medivacs full of hellbats without doing any damage. sOs lost. Maybe it's because of Innovation's relentless macro and mechanics
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On July 02 2013 20:59 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:59 Dodgin wrote:On July 02 2013 20:58 Bam Lee wrote: who actually thought first would lose against fantasy???
Firsts PvT is terrific. Maybe if first would have gotten nervous fantasy could have beaten him. But otherwise theres no way Pigscanfly did! (he wrote the TL preview) He predicted bomber to lose. pigscanfly is no prophet i believe in. The TL preview curse still lives on!
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On July 02 2013 20:59 Gamegene wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:On July 02 2013 20:55 NarutO wrote:On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote: Fantasy what happened. Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself. His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down. Hellbat drops with no damage happened.* I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine. Its not a whine, its the truth. People saying hellbat drops without damage still leave you ahead, which is complete and utter bullshit. who said that? just chiming in: there are lot of scenarios in TvT where you can defend near perfectly and still fall behind because of how quickly you can get a third command center and infrastructure since the hellbat drops don't actually cost that much (especially since you're getting an armory anyways) and how much money it takes to defend them (vikings turrets engie bay bunker etc.) + the mining time lost if you're forced to run. TvP it's completely inapplicable though.
Hellbats are only really a problem in TvT. That is probably why Blizzard is taking its time to nerf them. If it was a problem in all matchups they would probably react faster.
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On July 02 2013 20:58 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 20:58 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:56 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:54 bo1b wrote:On July 02 2013 20:53 TheDwf wrote:On July 02 2013 20:52 Qikz wrote:On July 02 2013 20:51 Caihead wrote: Fantasy what happened. Bio happened. I seem to remember the same thing happening in BW until he gave up on Bio in TvZ and just made mech work for himself. His bio control compared to everyone else is really far down. Hellbat drops with no damage happened.* I don't think I've ever seen a post from you without terran whine. I think he's more just following me around telling me how bad mech is and that I should give up. ?? I don't stalk you, I don't care what style you play and I never told you to change it. My sarcasm seemed to have gone over your head there. Sorry about that :p The real person who does that is marknwerf. I've got no real issue with you Dwf <3 Oh, sorry, my sarcasm detector is kaput. /;
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