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DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
June 29 2013 12:27 GMT
#3561
On June 29 2013 20:26 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 19:52 Xoronius wrote:
On June 29 2013 16:39 BackSideAttack wrote:
On June 29 2013 16:26 Xoronius wrote:
On June 29 2013 16:22 ChApFoU wrote:
Are the brackets randomly generated ? If that's the case, koreans have a pretty shitty luck.....


I´d say Jaedong and HerO have pretty good luck. Polt as well. Ofc. I know what you´re saying ( brackets 3,4 and 7 are more stacked than all others), but I don´t see any pattern here, which would express a manipulation from MLG´s side; seems about randomized for me, with seeding for high MLG finishes in the past.


I don't agree with the seeding from past performance depending on the situation. I definitely don't agree that Huk should be seeded highly for doing well several years ago. I would have preferred that they take current skill into consideration, or at the very least not take into consider results from over a year ago. It kind of sucks that Stats and Dear have to meet so early when Naniwa and Huk and Polt basically have foreigner only brackets. Also how did Jaedong get such a high seed when he hasn't performed well or even been at past MLGs. They must've taken non-MLG results into consideration as well.


I did´nt say, that I agree with the seeding, just saying, that that was probably the way it was done. The problem is though, that (Captain obvious incoming) doing a good seeding is actually really hard neither Stats nor Dear has any solo-achievments or anything measurable to really rate them (Like WCS points, both are sitting at 0), we only know, that they are good, because we see them in a Team-league. Meanwhile Naniwa; Jaedong and HerO (the three highest ranked players at the tournery) are sitting on 2650/900/800 points already and thus get pretty easy brackets (It could actually just be a seeding on WCS points, now, that I think of it, the only anomaly in this case would be soO/Hyun both having more points than anyone in bracket 2).


In case the seeding was random, it is ok i guess.

They won this: easiest qualifier ever. In my eyes the winner of MLG was chosen with this tournament.



Wow... that qualifier.... I wonder what would happen if you put everyone in the first round of that qual against everyone in the first round of this MLG. How many games would the MLG side win? 1-2? Not trying to be a dick that qual just seems about 1000x more stacked than the actual tourney, which is strange.
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
ErrantKnight
Profile Joined November 2012
Switzerland186 Posts
June 29 2013 13:14 GMT
#3562
forgot Coach Park in the second poll
"Quantity is quality by itself"
HBmaKro
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada93 Posts
June 29 2013 13:44 GMT
#3563
wheres the day 9 stream?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 29 2013 13:48 GMT
#3564
On June 29 2013 21:27 DamnCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 20:26 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On June 29 2013 19:52 Xoronius wrote:
On June 29 2013 16:39 BackSideAttack wrote:
On June 29 2013 16:26 Xoronius wrote:
On June 29 2013 16:22 ChApFoU wrote:
Are the brackets randomly generated ? If that's the case, koreans have a pretty shitty luck.....


I´d say Jaedong and HerO have pretty good luck. Polt as well. Ofc. I know what you´re saying ( brackets 3,4 and 7 are more stacked than all others), but I don´t see any pattern here, which would express a manipulation from MLG´s side; seems about randomized for me, with seeding for high MLG finishes in the past.


I don't agree with the seeding from past performance depending on the situation. I definitely don't agree that Huk should be seeded highly for doing well several years ago. I would have preferred that they take current skill into consideration, or at the very least not take into consider results from over a year ago. It kind of sucks that Stats and Dear have to meet so early when Naniwa and Huk and Polt basically have foreigner only brackets. Also how did Jaedong get such a high seed when he hasn't performed well or even been at past MLGs. They must've taken non-MLG results into consideration as well.


I did´nt say, that I agree with the seeding, just saying, that that was probably the way it was done. The problem is though, that (Captain obvious incoming) doing a good seeding is actually really hard neither Stats nor Dear has any solo-achievments or anything measurable to really rate them (Like WCS points, both are sitting at 0), we only know, that they are good, because we see them in a Team-league. Meanwhile Naniwa; Jaedong and HerO (the three highest ranked players at the tournery) are sitting on 2650/900/800 points already and thus get pretty easy brackets (It could actually just be a seeding on WCS points, now, that I think of it, the only anomaly in this case would be soO/Hyun both having more points than anyone in bracket 2).


In case the seeding was random, it is ok i guess.

They won this: easiest qualifier ever. In my eyes the winner of MLG was chosen with this tournament.



Wow... that qualifier.... I wonder what would happen if you put everyone in the first round of that qual against everyone in the first round of this MLG. How many games would the MLG side win? 1-2? Not trying to be a dick that qual just seems about 1000x more stacked than the actual tourney, which is strange.

Not strange, think of it has WCS Korea vs WCS Finals
Refer to my post.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
June 29 2013 13:55 GMT
#3565
Just checked the results. Thorzain lost 2-0 to KawaiiRice, who was playing RANDOM? Seriously?

Was that casted? We got any vods? Can anyone sum up the games?
For Aiur???
qcHanHan
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark71 Posts
June 29 2013 14:13 GMT
#3566
PARTIIIIIIIIIING!
HerO - herO - PartinG - sOs - Rain - Zest - Stats
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
June 29 2013 14:57 GMT
#3567
On June 29 2013 21:27 DamnCats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 20:26 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On June 29 2013 19:52 Xoronius wrote:
On June 29 2013 16:39 BackSideAttack wrote:
On June 29 2013 16:26 Xoronius wrote:
On June 29 2013 16:22 ChApFoU wrote:
Are the brackets randomly generated ? If that's the case, koreans have a pretty shitty luck.....


I´d say Jaedong and HerO have pretty good luck. Polt as well. Ofc. I know what you´re saying ( brackets 3,4 and 7 are more stacked than all others), but I don´t see any pattern here, which would express a manipulation from MLG´s side; seems about randomized for me, with seeding for high MLG finishes in the past.


I don't agree with the seeding from past performance depending on the situation. I definitely don't agree that Huk should be seeded highly for doing well several years ago. I would have preferred that they take current skill into consideration, or at the very least not take into consider results from over a year ago. It kind of sucks that Stats and Dear have to meet so early when Naniwa and Huk and Polt basically have foreigner only brackets. Also how did Jaedong get such a high seed when he hasn't performed well or even been at past MLGs. They must've taken non-MLG results into consideration as well.


I did´nt say, that I agree with the seeding, just saying, that that was probably the way it was done. The problem is though, that (Captain obvious incoming) doing a good seeding is actually really hard neither Stats nor Dear has any solo-achievments or anything measurable to really rate them (Like WCS points, both are sitting at 0), we only know, that they are good, because we see them in a Team-league. Meanwhile Naniwa; Jaedong and HerO (the three highest ranked players at the tournery) are sitting on 2650/900/800 points already and thus get pretty easy brackets (It could actually just be a seeding on WCS points, now, that I think of it, the only anomaly in this case would be soO/Hyun both having more points than anyone in bracket 2).


In case the seeding was random, it is ok i guess.

They won this: easiest qualifier ever. In my eyes the winner of MLG was chosen with this tournament.



Wow... that qualifier.... I wonder what would happen if you put everyone in the first round of that qual against everyone in the first round of this MLG. How many games would the MLG side win? 1-2? Not trying to be a dick that qual just seems about 1000x more stacked than the actual tourney, which is strange.

Not that surprising, WCS KR which is now sort of a qualifier is way more stacked than the actual global finals too.
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
June 29 2013 15:22 GMT
#3568
On June 29 2013 22:44 HBmaKro wrote:
wheres the day 9 stream?

He's not a community streamer, he's hired for the main stream.
CarlosOmse
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany507 Posts
June 29 2013 15:33 GMT
#3569
oh dear just check the results, didnt think coach park will loose frst round vs a american noname
a book is like a mirror if a monkey looks into it no philosopher will look back
LightAngels
Profile Joined April 2010
United States299 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 15:39:16
June 29 2013 15:38 GMT
#3570
Did coach Park play? What's his id.
HBmaKro
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada93 Posts
June 29 2013 15:55 GMT
#3571
and where is the main day 9 stream? link ?
sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
June 29 2013 16:07 GMT
#3572
oh dear just check the results, didnt think coach park will loose frst round vs a american noname

Did coach Park play? What's his id.

He lost against bubbles by cannon rush
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
June 29 2013 16:22 GMT
#3573
On June 29 2013 23:13 qcHanHan wrote:
PARTIIIIIIIIIING!


I like PartinG too, but I think his chance of winning this tourney is rather small...
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
June 29 2013 16:25 GMT
#3574
NonY Fighting!
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
sekalf
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden522 Posts
June 29 2013 16:29 GMT
#3575
Why is there such an echo on the cast?
Are they pulling the audio from out in the audience?
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
June 29 2013 16:36 GMT
#3576
Yes, they are.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
June 29 2013 16:40 GMT
#3577
No free VoDs for this, right?
T P Z sagi
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-29 16:48:53
June 29 2013 16:48 GMT
#3578
TheStC seemed to has awful luck with the bracket all the times =(
Gofarman
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada646 Posts
June 29 2013 17:04 GMT
#3579
On June 30 2013 01:40 purakushi wrote:
No free VoDs for this, right?


VOD's are up immediately after cast afaik and sooner for any of the main stage ones

between this link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AsgWhoCmvv-7dHdHcHM2eVpCVXVCZ2tjRVRIWWYwTHc&toomany=true#gid=0 (lists the games that the 4 community streams casted)

And this link: http://s3.majorleaguegaming.com/2013-anaheim-starcraft2-hots.html (Direct links to mlg YouTube VODs only good for games casted on main stage. so NonY vs MXblack, Dragon vs catz etc. etc)

You should be able to locate the games you want to watch.

The games that aren't listed there are probable streamed on the NASLtv stream and you get see the VODs for them too (NonY vs HwangSin, Grubby vs QXC were the last 2 streamed on NASLtv)
datsneefa
Profile Joined October 2009
United States65 Posts
June 29 2013 20:38 GMT
#3580
awesome coverage so far really like all the options at this MLG
Jaedong brings honor even to Swarm Hosts
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