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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
June 27 2013 10:18 GMT
#461
On June 27 2013 19:15 Incognoto wrote:
I'm a zerg player so I'm pretty clueless about PvT, but didn't Partig deserve to lose that game after losing 3 Colossi for nothing?

Of course, but Hellbats, MULEs, blablabla...
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 10:19:01
June 27 2013 10:18 GMT
#462
On June 27 2013 19:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:15 Incognoto wrote:
I'm a zerg player so I'm pretty clueless about PvT, but didn't Partig deserve to lose that game after losing 3 Colossi for nothing? Had he kept those alive I think the game would have turned out differently..


Yes he did. He went for a big attack following his successful drop defense while Supernova was taking a third command center. The attack did almost nothing and he lost his collosus in the process it was a HUGE setback for him.


Yeah. I actually thought was was going to posture a little while securing his third, rather than actually attack. SN also did some nice flanking drops on the Colossi with the medivacs to snipe them. After that, Parting was accelerating downhill.

Sigh. Anyway, time I was out of here.
KT best KT ~ 2014
artrea
Profile Joined March 2011
Latvia3560 Posts
June 27 2013 10:18 GMT
#463
I do think that either Bomber or Keen will not advance. Bomber because well he is Bomber and Keen because he seems to get unlucky at times.
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
June 27 2013 10:18 GMT
#464
On June 27 2013 19:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:15 Incognoto wrote:
I'm a zerg player so I'm pretty clueless about PvT, but didn't Partig deserve to lose that game after losing 3 Colossi for nothing? Had he kept those alive I think the game would have turned out differently..


Yes he did. He went for a big attack following his successful drop defense while Supernova was taking a third command center. The attack did almost nothing and he lost his collosus in the process it was a HUGE setback for him.


He did force a lift on the third, kill several vikings and some SCVs but he took too long to go into storm after that. Plus he stopped upgrading.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
June 27 2013 10:18 GMT
#465
On June 27 2013 19:17 Wintex wrote:
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On June 27 2013 19:16 Fionn wrote:
I hope the semifinals are Flash/Keen and Fantasy/Innovation.

Fionn no. Flash vs Bomber for the ultimate TvT greed and Fantasy innovation for aggression hell.

haha, Flash and Bomber would probably be maxed on 3/3 raven/BC before the first big fight happens.

now i wanna see that.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 27 2013 10:19 GMT
#466
I think Keen is better than Bomber currently.

He's under the radar really strong right now.
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Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
June 27 2013 10:19 GMT
#467
Supernova completely deserved that win. Very nice defense against that timing and knew how to capitalize on his advantage. Parting just dropped the ball
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 27 2013 10:19 GMT
#468
On June 27 2013 19:16 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 08:08 Zealously wrote:
I'm going to try this one more time:

Go Bomber/Hurricane/Squirtle/Supernova!

+ Show Spoiler +
If none of these advance, you know what happened


I'M SO CONFUSED

Only works on the players you actually want to win my dear.
Glorious SEA doto
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
June 27 2013 10:19 GMT
#469
On June 27 2013 19:13 sudete wrote:
We should think of a name for that 3 base SCV pull all-in timing off 2/2 upgrades!


The Midlife Identify Crisis Push?
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 27 2013 10:19 GMT
#470
wake up to teamkill.

Think about going back to sleep..
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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
June 27 2013 10:19 GMT
#471
On June 27 2013 19:17 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:15 Lazzi wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:13 sudete wrote:
We should think of a name for that 3 base SCV pull all-in timing off 2/2 upgrades!

let's call it "you're screwed"


Sounds accurate to me.


let's call it the kill-switch. Since it often looks like the Terran wants to go full macro-mode and then he just goes 'well, I can also just kill you right now'
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
June 27 2013 10:19 GMT
#472
On June 27 2013 19:13 Zealot Lord wrote:
I think this just all boils back down to protoss unable to take a quick 3rd against terran anymore due to mass drops - stopping this SCV train pull with a lesser economy is just so difficult.


Uh, no. Drops might have been a problem once upon a time in wol, but with planetary nexus and recall there is no reason for Protoss to have trouble with drops. The real problem is that Protoss players are trying to be qtpies and go for two tech paths and a quick third at the same time, which then turns into a giant "pull workers and kill me plz". You don't go colossus Templar and a third at the same time in any other MU, but Terran is supposed to let you get away with it?
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
June 27 2013 10:19 GMT
#473
On June 27 2013 19:18 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:15 Incognoto wrote:
I'm a zerg player so I'm pretty clueless about PvT, but didn't Partig deserve to lose that game after losing 3 Colossi for nothing? Had he kept those alive I think the game would have turned out differently..


Yes he did. He went for a big attack following his successful drop defense while Supernova was taking a third command center. The attack did almost nothing and he lost his collosus in the process it was a HUGE setback for him.

Basically, whenever you are left with only stalkers, against a terran with a standing economy, you lose. Stalkers are strong support units but suck incredibly badly on their own, unless
a) you are 2011 MC
b) you are 6gate allining in PvZ


b) is a pretty unique situation in against a Terran with a standing economy
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
June 27 2013 10:19 GMT
#474
On June 27 2013 19:18 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:17 Wintex wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:16 Fionn wrote:
I hope the semifinals are Flash/Keen and Fantasy/Innovation.

Fionn no. Flash vs Bomber for the ultimate TvT greed and Fantasy innovation for aggression hell.

haha, Flash and Bomber would probably be maxed on 3/3 raven/BC before the first big fight happens.

now i wanna see that.


Fantasy vs Innovation would just be hellbat drops all day lol
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
eGoRama
Profile Joined July 2011
Bulgaria1542 Posts
June 27 2013 10:20 GMT
#475
That game was the perfect example of How to lose a game to a Terran as a Protoss due to bad army control.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16847 Posts
June 27 2013 10:20 GMT
#476
On June 27 2013 19:18 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:16 xAdra wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:15 Swisslink wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:14 Jmanthedragonguy wrote:
100% Terran advance rate '-'


Even better, only Maru lost a Map xD

Unfortunately, Rain will beat bomber and keen to prevent us from being able to QQ. I sincerely hope I'm right about this.


Well Bomber on a good day is a TvP god, and Keen isnt that bad in TvP either iirc

True. KeeN is no slouch in TvP and Bomber was the one of the only to beat Rain during his rise in WoL last fall.
The Bomber boy
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
June 27 2013 10:20 GMT
#477
On June 27 2013 19:14 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:13 Zealot Lord wrote:
I think this just all boils back down to protoss unable to take a quick 3rd against terran anymore due to mass drops - stopping this SCV train pull with a lesser economy is just so difficult.

Or maybe it had something to do with the failed blink/Colossi timing?

Thats the problem, every time a protoss players army enters the opponents half of the map it is considered a "timing" and is borderline all-in. It's hard to put on small pressures without being cost ineffective as protoss, since the higher tech units are to slow to save.
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
June 27 2013 10:20 GMT
#478
On June 27 2013 19:19 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:18 xAdra wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:15 Incognoto wrote:
I'm a zerg player so I'm pretty clueless about PvT, but didn't Partig deserve to lose that game after losing 3 Colossi for nothing? Had he kept those alive I think the game would have turned out differently..


Yes he did. He went for a big attack following his successful drop defense while Supernova was taking a third command center. The attack did almost nothing and he lost his collosus in the process it was a HUGE setback for him.

Basically, whenever you are left with only stalkers, against a terran with a standing economy, you lose. Stalkers are strong support units but suck incredibly badly on their own, unless
a) you are 2011 MC
b) you are 6gate allining in PvZ


b) is a pretty unique situation in against a Terran with a standing economy


nah mass stalker is good against Zerg if you're busting his front. Lost my immortals? Meh I have 30 stalkers, gl with that
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
June 27 2013 10:20 GMT
#479
On June 27 2013 19:19 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2013 19:17 Wingblade wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:15 Lazzi wrote:
On June 27 2013 19:13 sudete wrote:
We should think of a name for that 3 base SCV pull all-in timing off 2/2 upgrades!

let's call it "you're screwed"


Sounds accurate to me.


let's call it the kill-switch. Since it often looks like the Terran wants to go full macro-mode and then he just goes 'well, I can also just kill you right now'


I don't know man, I like Midlife Identity Crisis Push. Captures the same effect, but with comedy.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16122 Posts
June 27 2013 10:21 GMT
#480
Uh oh. Artosis just said Yonghwa was going to win. Poor guy.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
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