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Gorribal
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Canada186 Posts
June 19 2013 00:14 GMT
#41
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.
"PartinG keeps touching us and groping us (laughs)." - Rain
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:35:48
June 19 2013 09:31 GMT
#42
On June 19 2013 09:14 Gorribal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.


splitting prize pool(which he agreed to beforehand) =/= match fixing, its very common practice amongst teammates(especially in the korean scene). only reason u never hear about it is because its rare to find a douchebag who goes back on his word. so yea, karma.. hopefully with more of it to come. a douche can never un-douche himself, its part of his character as a human being

regardless of what you say, think or believe
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 19 2013 09:43 GMT
#43
On June 19 2013 18:31 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 09:14 Gorribal wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.


splitting prize pool(which he agreed to beforehand) =/= match fixing, its very common practice amongst teammates(especially in the korean scene). only reason u never hear about it is because its rare to find a douchebag who goes back on his word. so yea, karma.. hopefully with more of it to come. a douche can never un-douche himself, its part of his character as a human being

regardless of what you say, think or believe


Haha, the irony here is mind-numbing.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 09:52:57
June 19 2013 09:49 GMT
#44
On June 19 2013 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 18:31 ROOTT1 wrote:
On June 19 2013 09:14 Gorribal wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.


splitting prize pool(which he agreed to beforehand) =/= match fixing, its very common practice amongst teammates(especially in the korean scene). only reason u never hear about it is because its rare to find a douchebag who goes back on his word. so yea, karma.. hopefully with more of it to come. a douche can never un-douche himself, its part of his character as a human being

regardless of what you say, think or believe


Haha, the irony here is mind-numbing.


there is no irony because uve never met me, you have no idea who i am. its ironical to you because you perceive me in a certain way, once you get to know someones personality/character thats when you have the right to label them however you seem fit. past experiences with fenix give me the right to label him as a douchebag
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
June 19 2013 10:15 GMT
#45
On June 19 2013 18:49 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
On June 19 2013 18:31 ROOTT1 wrote:
On June 19 2013 09:14 Gorribal wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.


splitting prize pool(which he agreed to beforehand) =/= match fixing, its very common practice amongst teammates(especially in the korean scene). only reason u never hear about it is because its rare to find a douchebag who goes back on his word. so yea, karma.. hopefully with more of it to come. a douche can never un-douche himself, its part of his character as a human being

regardless of what you say, think or believe


Haha, the irony here is mind-numbing.


there is no irony because uve never met me, you have no idea who i am. its ironical to you because you perceive me in a certain way, once you get to know someones personality/character thats when you have the right to label them however you seem fit. past experiences with fenix give me the right to label him as a douchebag


Not backing up TT1 as person in general but while I think he made mistakes and overall sometimes can act like a douche online / in the forums, he's completely right on this case. If they had an agreement and Fenix wanted to back out from it, he should have done it before the finals and let TT1 know. He's also completely right that this isn't match fixing, but common amongst players from the same team or even players that are friendly with each other.

Playing it out and backing out after winning is a scam and nothing else. If someone wants to forget or forgive that 'mistake' / action its their choice, but basically telling TT1 to fuck off because he does not is stupid.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
June 19 2013 10:32 GMT
#46
On June 19 2013 18:49 ROOTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 18:43 Daswollvieh wrote:
On June 19 2013 18:31 ROOTT1 wrote:
On June 19 2013 09:14 Gorribal wrote:
On June 18 2013 11:08 Namenlos wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fusilero wrote:
On June 18 2013 09:04 Fischbacher wrote:
Fenix forfeits due to Internet issues. Depressing :<

The universe conspires against fenix nothing goes right for him ever.


Probably Karma.


Fenix didn't want to match fix with a maphacker? Yea, what an asshole, Fenix totally deserves some real bad karma.


Anyways, the whole movie trailer thing is on the VODs too, and I just wanted to say that all these Koreans need to start going to America/Europe to play their online matches if they want to play their best, otherwise try to qualify for Code A. The "easy foreigners" aren't so easy if you have lag, and the least they could do when playing in an American/Europe tournament is be there.


splitting prize pool(which he agreed to beforehand) =/= match fixing, its very common practice amongst teammates(especially in the korean scene). only reason u never hear about it is because its rare to find a douchebag who goes back on his word. so yea, karma.. hopefully with more of it to come. a douche can never un-douche himself, its part of his character as a human being

regardless of what you say, think or believe


Haha, the irony here is mind-numbing.


there is no irony because uve never met me, you have no idea who i am. its ironical to you because you perceive me in a certain way, once you get to know someones personality/character thats when you have the right to label them however you seem fit. past experiences with fenix give me the right to label him as a douchebag


It is kinda funny when you say something that can easily be applied to yourself (do a douchy thing makes you a douche, can never undouche because doucheness imprinted in character) with such conviction. I wasn´t judging you. And I don´t doubt your capacity of judging Fenix as a person, better than anyone else on the forum. I just don´t know why you would even throw such an obvious bait??

That said, I think Artosis put it pretty well into words on some state of the game when Terran/Kitty/Princess/Major did some Shenanigans:
"At the time you usually grow-up, we played Starcraft."
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