• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:04
CEST 00:04
KST 07:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists15[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers13Maestros of the Game 2 announced62026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game 2 announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions Data needed [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1324 users

[WCS AM] Group B Challenger Season 1 2013 - Page 4

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 01:34:34
June 12 2013 01:29 GMT
#61
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as even with Killer.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 12 2013 01:33 GMT
#62
Poll: Recommend Loser's Match Game 3?

If you have time (1)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

No (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Loser's Match Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
June 12 2013 01:34 GMT
#63
Juaaaaaaaaanitoooooo
Waffles > Pancakes
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 12 2013 01:34 GMT
#64
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.


Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 01:39:29
June 12 2013 01:36 GMT
#65
On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.


Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?

I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group
And I don't know why they picked him up, but they're the worst kespa team and they still haven't played him, maybe they wanted another person to practice against.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
June 12 2013 01:39 GMT
#66
On June 12 2013 10:36 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.


Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?

I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group


And Killer has always been good in the foreign scene, a real upset factory. It's just that he has close to no exposure, and he doesn't attend many live events. That's a little bit the same scene for Moonglade, those two performs well everytime we see them, it's just that we don't see them much.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 12 2013 01:40 GMT
#67
On June 12 2013 10:36 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.


Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?

I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group


I don't get it, it seems like you are putting him in a group with low-tier foreigners, doesn't that also imply you consider him low tier? :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 12 2013 01:40 GMT
#68
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as even with Killer.



It's a growing process. Unless you are super talented, most players will spend at leas an year or 2 just grinding practice games in team houses and then they get sent out. They spend another year or so just getting the mind control needed to play at their best in the booth.

There is no secret way to get extremely good at the game extremely fast. Unless you have a superior understanding of the game far beyond everyone else, you're going to have to keep grinding out games over and over and over again until you reach that level.

Dreams may betray you, but hard work betrays no one. So long as Major keeps putting in time and effort into practice, he will always be a foreigner to look out for.
Moderator
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 12 2013 01:42 GMT
#69
On June 12 2013 10:40 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:36 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.


Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?

I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group


I don't get it, it seems like you are putting him in a group with low-tier foreigners, doesn't that also imply you consider him low tier? :p

First guy said, why does he lose to mid/low tier foreigners, and I'm saying he's in the same group. I guess you want me to say he's not high tier? Same thing.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 12 2013 01:42 GMT
#70
Lots of people have been saying Major is incredibly good and talented, for years. Not that my thoughts matter, but after a couple years he has never impressed me in the slightest. I'm not saying he's not good, but I just don't see what other people see.
Refer to my post.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 01:50:37
June 12 2013 01:50 GMT
#71
Also roach bane is such an abusively awesome build.
Moderator
edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
June 12 2013 01:52 GMT
#72
For this kind of online tournament, can players have another player watch from behind to remind him stuff? For example, remind him a red dot on minimap he doesn't notice, possible drops.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 12 2013 01:53 GMT
#73
How nostalgic, a tank.
Moderator
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 12 2013 01:54 GMT
#74
That was a stomp haha.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 12 2013 01:54 GMT
#75
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

Yes (2)
 
67%

If you have time (1)
 
33%

No (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

This Week in SC2Find out what happened 'This Week in Starcraft 2': http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=278126
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 12 2013 01:55 GMT
#76
On June 12 2013 10:52 edgeOut wrote:
For this kind of online tournament, can players have another player watch from behind to remind him stuff? For example, remind him a red dot on minimap he doesn't notice, possible drops.


Yes, but there is honor and all that. It's marginal benefit, since someone talking to you could be distracting, and if you are caught, it could really kill a career.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 12 2013 02:01 GMT
#77
drone scout op vs cc first
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 02:08:56
June 12 2013 02:07 GMT
#78
O shit 1/1 speed bane muta timing O_O

countered...by being on the map
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 12 2013 02:09 GMT
#79
killer is so terrible, he gets supplystuck, builds 4 overlord, 1 min later supply stuck 4 overlords, repeat
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 12 2013 02:13 GMT
#80
Cool game, constant action
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 56m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 255
ProTech138
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 14337
Artosis 61
Dota 2
monkeys_forever455
capcasts145
Counter-Strike
minikerr20
Super Smash Bros
PPMD54
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu430
Other Games
summit1g8187
tarik_tv4117
Grubby3982
FrodaN1127
shahzam442
C9.Mang0379
Trikslyr140
Mew2King35
NightEnD2
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV401
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 75
• RyuSc2 34
• musti20045 34
• Adnapsc2 30
• Reevou 11
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 33
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1481
• Shiphtur299
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 56m
RSL Revival
11h 56m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 11h
KCM Race Survival
1d 11h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 12h
Gerald vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Escore
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
[ Show More ]
Universe Titan Cup
3 days
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Soma vs TBD
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
TBD vs YSC
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.