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YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 01:34:34
June 12 2013 01:29 GMT
#61
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as even with Killer.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 12 2013 01:33 GMT
#62
Poll: Recommend Loser's Match Game 3?

If you have time (1)
 
100%

Yes (0)
 
0%

No (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Loser's Match Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time

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Wafflelisk
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada1061 Posts
June 12 2013 01:34 GMT
#63
Juaaaaaaaaanitoooooo
Waffles > Pancakes
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 12 2013 01:34 GMT
#64
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.


Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 01:39:29
June 12 2013 01:36 GMT
#65
On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.


Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?

I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group
And I don't know why they picked him up, but they're the worst kespa team and they still haven't played him, maybe they wanted another person to practice against.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
June 12 2013 01:39 GMT
#66
On June 12 2013 10:36 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.


Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?

I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group


And Killer has always been good in the foreign scene, a real upset factory. It's just that he has close to no exposure, and he doesn't attend many live events. That's a little bit the same scene for Moonglade, those two performs well everytime we see them, it's just that we don't see them much.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 12 2013 01:40 GMT
#67
On June 12 2013 10:36 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.


Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?

I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group


I don't get it, it seems like you are putting him in a group with low-tier foreigners, doesn't that also imply you consider him low tier? :p
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 12 2013 01:40 GMT
#68
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as even with Killer.



It's a growing process. Unless you are super talented, most players will spend at leas an year or 2 just grinding practice games in team houses and then they get sent out. They spend another year or so just getting the mind control needed to play at their best in the booth.

There is no secret way to get extremely good at the game extremely fast. Unless you have a superior understanding of the game far beyond everyone else, you're going to have to keep grinding out games over and over and over again until you reach that level.

Dreams may betray you, but hard work betrays no one. So long as Major keeps putting in time and effort into practice, he will always be a foreigner to look out for.
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YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
June 12 2013 01:42 GMT
#69
On June 12 2013 10:40 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2013 10:36 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:34 Bagration wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:29 YoungTyTy wrote:
On June 12 2013 10:21 ZMTYOU wrote:
im a big major fan but it kinda annoys me

Major is literally the most dedicated foreign player, is on a kespa professional team, lives in a kespa house, and trains daily with kespa professionals.. I dont understand how he is always managing to lose to nonames and mid/low tier foreigners..


Major is a mid/low tier foreigner, he's never proved otherwise with any results. As for why he's not getting better, he's either not working hard enough, not training efficiently enough or he's just not talented enough. I'm not watching so I don't know how he looks but Killer has always been pretty solid. I would Major as weaker or even with Killer.


Major is definitely not a low-tier foreigner. And of course, if he wasn't good at all, why would T8 pick him up?

I didn't say low-tier. If there was a group with mid-tier/low tier foreigners, I'd put him in it. He might be at the higher end but still in the group


I don't get it, it seems like you are putting him in a group with low-tier foreigners, doesn't that also imply you consider him low tier? :p

First guy said, why does he lose to mid/low tier foreigners, and I'm saying he's in the same group. I guess you want me to say he's not high tier? Same thing.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
June 12 2013 01:42 GMT
#70
Lots of people have been saying Major is incredibly good and talented, for years. Not that my thoughts matter, but after a couple years he has never impressed me in the slightest. I'm not saying he's not good, but I just don't see what other people see.
Refer to my post.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 01:50:37
June 12 2013 01:50 GMT
#71
Also roach bane is such an abusively awesome build.
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edgeOut
Profile Joined February 2013
United States945 Posts
June 12 2013 01:52 GMT
#72
For this kind of online tournament, can players have another player watch from behind to remind him stuff? For example, remind him a red dot on minimap he doesn't notice, possible drops.
Fuck you Zealously! For the fuck you give to those players.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
June 12 2013 01:53 GMT
#73
How nostalgic, a tank.
Moderator
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
June 12 2013 01:54 GMT
#74
That was a stomp haha.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
June 12 2013 01:54 GMT
#75
Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

Yes (2)
 
67%

If you have time (1)
 
33%

No (0)
 
0%

3 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 12 2013 01:55 GMT
#76
On June 12 2013 10:52 edgeOut wrote:
For this kind of online tournament, can players have another player watch from behind to remind him stuff? For example, remind him a red dot on minimap he doesn't notice, possible drops.


Yes, but there is honor and all that. It's marginal benefit, since someone talking to you could be distracting, and if you are caught, it could really kill a career.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 12 2013 02:01 GMT
#77
drone scout op vs cc first
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-12 02:08:56
June 12 2013 02:07 GMT
#78
O shit 1/1 speed bane muta timing O_O

countered...by being on the map
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 12 2013 02:09 GMT
#79
killer is so terrible, he gets supplystuck, builds 4 overlord, 1 min later supply stuck 4 overlords, repeat
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 12 2013 02:13 GMT
#80
Cool game, constant action
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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