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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5081
On June 07 2013 18:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Poll: HerO vs Symbol?

HerO (8)
 
50%

Symbol (8)
 
50%

16 total votes

Your vote: HerO vs Symbol?

(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Symbol



Head to head: HerO 7-0 Symbol

last match november 2012 D:


Gotta count for something at least, protoss got stronger in PvZ since then!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5082
I have to say the Zerg vs Innovation metagame is getting a little predictable...
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5083
On June 07 2013 18:16 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:15 opterown wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:14 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:12 Yello wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:10 Dodgin wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:09 DustbinBieber wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:08 Heartland wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:07 DustbinBieber wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:07 packrat386 wrote:
God everybody just cheesing the shit out of innovation.


Could you guys stop forgetting that 3 CC double EB is as cheesy as bane/roach all-ins?


That's not what cheese means.


Greed-cheese if you will.


I totally agree with you, if you try to get away with such a greedy build you're just asking to get busted. Once Bogus stops doing the same greedy macro build every game people will stop busting him.


the problem is the balance between greed and safety. You need to as greedy as possible against an equally skilled Zerg.
And Innovation is able to defend the Roach-Bane all-ins if he scouts it in time, so he probably does this build and relies on reacting to his opponents play

This isn't WoL. Zerg can't take fast 3-Hatch against a 2-base Terran, and Terran can't do it either.

It would be a bit strange for Terran to go fast 3-hatch, even in HotS

Dude, 3-hatch Terran was the shit in WoL.

I don't know about you, but I went 3 hatch carriers in most of my WoL TvZs.
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5084
Quick poll, will innovation make a tank? ;D
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5085
On June 07 2013 18:12 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:10 Dodgin wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:09 DustbinBieber wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:08 Heartland wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:07 DustbinBieber wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:07 packrat386 wrote:
God everybody just cheesing the shit out of innovation.


Could you guys stop forgetting that 3 CC double EB is as cheesy as bane/roach all-ins?


That's not what cheese means.


Greed-cheese if you will.


I totally agree with you, if you try to get away with such a greedy build you're just asking to get busted. Once Bogus stops doing the same greedy macro build every game people will stop busting him.


the problem is the balance between greed and safety. You need to as greedy as possible against an equally skilled Zerg.
And Innovation is able to defend the Roach-Bane all-ins if he scouts it in time, so he probably does this build and relies on reacting to his opponents play


Yes this is true. BUT in this game, Roro went for a fast gas and Innovation scouted it. So Innovation is just ahead by default if they play a macro game, so he can absolutly afford the extra 1-2 tanks squeezed in and delay his ebays slightly. Instead he chose to go for the most greedy fuck in the book, after scouting that his opponent already had a clock on him.
Crazyahmed
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada280 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5086
On June 07 2013 18:15 Godwrath wrote:
I just tuned it, and i listened "Team Liquid Herouuu, frum Amurica" ?

What the lol


they are trying to make you think that any region except Korea has anything to do with this tournament
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5087
On June 07 2013 18:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I just woke up, I like how none of the predictions are right. :DDDD


Standard. ~_~
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5088
On June 07 2013 18:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Innovation will end up like MKP if he continues his greed trend.


oh god please no ::
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5089
On June 07 2013 18:16 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Poll: HerO vs Symbol?

HerO (8)
 
50%

Symbol (8)
 
50%

16 total votes

Your vote: HerO vs Symbol?

(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Symbol



Head to head: HerO 7-0 Symbol

last match november 2012 D:


Gotta count for something at least, protoss got stronger in PvZ since then!

That's the 2nd most describing win rate I've found out about today. Did you know aLive was 5-1 vs Stephano before? now 7-1
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5090
gogo Hero foreigner's only hope XD
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5091
On June 07 2013 18:16 Wintex wrote:
Ah well. Either INnoVation fixes this build addiction or he'll learn that the reason some champions of SC2 have not faded away is because they adapted to everything. Mvp can do it all. I think INno can too.



Inno is not a champion just yet because of that.
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5092
On June 07 2013 18:17 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Innovation will end up like MKP if he continues his greed trend.


oh god please no ::

My FPL team is "Bogus is the KeSPA MarineKing"
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 07 2013 09:17 GMT
#5093
On June 07 2013 18:17 Chr15t wrote:
Quick poll, will innovation make a tank? ;D


What are tanks? I'll take swords for 500 alec.
kinverse
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)137 Posts
June 07 2013 09:18 GMT
#5094
On June 07 2013 18:17 Douillos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:16 Wintex wrote:
Ah well. Either INnoVation fixes this build addiction or he'll learn that the reason some champions of SC2 have not faded away is because they adapted to everything. Mvp can do it all. I think INno can too.



Inno is not a champion just yet because of that.



almost....almost...
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 07 2013 09:18 GMT
#5095
On June 07 2013 18:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:17 Makro wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:15 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Innovation will end up like MKP if he continues his greed trend.


oh god please no ::

My FPL team is "Bogus is the KeSPA MarineKing"

mine is 5-minute FPL or something
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
June 07 2013 09:18 GMT
#5096
HOLY SHIT FORGG WON.
#SWAG
#ForGG Vs Innovation finals.


I'm so happy right now,all the 4weezy haters must shit themselves.
RIP MKP
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
June 07 2013 09:18 GMT
#5097
On June 07 2013 18:17 Crazyahmed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:15 Godwrath wrote:
I just tuned it, and i listened "Team Liquid Herouuu, frum Amurica" ?

What the lol


they are trying to make you think that any region except Korea has anything to do with this tournament


Dimaga can still win this! I believe!
Neosteel Enthusiast
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
June 07 2013 09:18 GMT
#5098
On June 07 2013 18:17 GunSec wrote:
gogo Hero foreigner's only hope XD

Jurgen is already in the next round :D
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
June 07 2013 09:18 GMT
#5099
On June 07 2013 18:16 Evil_Sheep wrote:
I have to say the Zerg vs Innovation metagame is getting a little predictable...



Yeah you'd think Innovation would actually try to play a little safer -_-
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
June 07 2013 09:18 GMT
#5100
On June 07 2013 17:51 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 17:48 Pirat6662001 wrote:
Why foreigners lack even basic pride? with expressions like- going full foreigner, why wouldnt you play the safest surest way possible, so if you lose its not because of "full foreigner" . pure ultra is one of the least effective strats vs swarm hosts.


Hey Pirat, Dimaga is playing so I guess it makes sense we see you!

I have a question. Why are 95% of your last 40 posts about trashing the russian players? Don't you have something else to do? I find it especially interesting how you only seem to participate in the LR threads when there are russian players, just so you can trash them.

only watch sc2 for couple koreans and russian speaking players. i can understand being beaten by someone, but you should not beat yourself. after 2 years i am tired of people doing the same mistakes over and over and over. The lack of progress of the foreign scene is baffling and frustrating.
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
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