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yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
June 07 2013 09:15 GMT
#5061
Hope Innovation can get first in group. That will put him and Soulkey in opposite sides of bracket yea? Rematch at finals!
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
June 07 2013 09:15 GMT
#5062
On June 07 2013 18:14 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:13 Douillos wrote:
I love roach ling baneling <3


Why? Seems like amove only to me.



I'm a brute force kinda guy :>
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
June 07 2013 09:15 GMT
#5063
On June 07 2013 18:12 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:10 Dodgin wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:09 DustbinBieber wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:08 Heartland wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:07 DustbinBieber wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:07 packrat386 wrote:
God everybody just cheesing the shit out of innovation.


Could you guys stop forgetting that 3 CC double EB is as cheesy as bane/roach all-ins?


That's not what cheese means.


Greed-cheese if you will.


I totally agree with you, if you try to get away with such a greedy build you're just asking to get busted. Once Bogus stops doing the same greedy macro build every game people will stop busting him.


the problem is the balance between greed and safety. You need to as greedy as possible against an equally skilled Zerg.
And Innovation is able to defend the Roach-Bane all-ins if he scouts it in time, so he probably does this build and relies on reacting to his opponents play


I think this isn't nearly as true as it was in WoL, you can do a conservative build and still be fine if your harassment with hellbat/mine drops does well.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 07 2013 09:15 GMT
#5064
On June 07 2013 18:15 Godwrath wrote:
I just tuned it, and i listened "Team Liquid Herouuu, frum Amurica" ?

What the lol


Yeah ignore the player intros. ~_~
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 07 2013 09:15 GMT
#5065
On June 07 2013 18:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Poll: HerO vs Symbol?

HerO (8)
 
50%

Symbol (8)
 
50%

16 total votes

Your vote: HerO vs Symbol?

(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Symbol



Head to head: HerO 7-0 Symbol
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
June 07 2013 09:15 GMT
#5066
Innovation will end up like MKP if he continues his greed trend.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5067
I was the one who voted roro haha, really hope he can do it. Gogogo!!!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5068
On June 07 2013 18:15 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:14 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:12 Yello wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:10 Dodgin wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:09 DustbinBieber wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:08 Heartland wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:07 DustbinBieber wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:07 packrat386 wrote:
God everybody just cheesing the shit out of innovation.


Could you guys stop forgetting that 3 CC double EB is as cheesy as bane/roach all-ins?


That's not what cheese means.


Greed-cheese if you will.


I totally agree with you, if you try to get away with such a greedy build you're just asking to get busted. Once Bogus stops doing the same greedy macro build every game people will stop busting him.


the problem is the balance between greed and safety. You need to as greedy as possible against an equally skilled Zerg.
And Innovation is able to defend the Roach-Bane all-ins if he scouts it in time, so he probably does this build and relies on reacting to his opponents play

This isn't WoL. Zerg can't take fast 3-Hatch against a 2-base Terran, and Terran can't do it either.

It would be a bit strange for Terran to go fast 3-hatch, even in HotS

Dude, 3-hatch Terran was the shit in WoL.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
buntuka
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany40 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5069
I really wanna see Innovation vs ForGG, that would be the sickest TvT I can imagine. TL gonna explode!
viva la vida
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5070
On June 07 2013 18:15 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:14 JoeHannes wrote:
Almost all Zergs busting the shit out of Innovation, poor guy =[

Because he is too good macrowise... I hope he adopts soon.


Too good macro or too greedy for his own good?
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
kinverse
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)137 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5071
On June 07 2013 18:15 Chr15t wrote:
Wow so many responds ;D thanks guys


I know lol
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5072
On June 07 2013 18:15 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:14 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Poll: HerO vs Symbol?

HerO (8)
 
50%

Symbol (8)
 
50%

16 total votes

Your vote: HerO vs Symbol?

(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Symbol



Head to head: HerO 7-0 Symbol

last match november 2012 D:
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yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5073
On June 07 2013 18:14 Dodgin wrote:
Roro wearing that GSL pin, poor Bogus doesn't have one.


Ouch man. Thats a low blow
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5074
He could surely afford at least a few safety bunkers and just salvage them a minute later
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5075
lol at mr chae :D
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5076
On June 07 2013 18:15 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 18:14 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:12 Yello wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:10 Dodgin wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:09 DustbinBieber wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:08 Heartland wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:07 DustbinBieber wrote:
On June 07 2013 18:07 packrat386 wrote:
God everybody just cheesing the shit out of innovation.


Could you guys stop forgetting that 3 CC double EB is as cheesy as bane/roach all-ins?


That's not what cheese means.


Greed-cheese if you will.


I totally agree with you, if you try to get away with such a greedy build you're just asking to get busted. Once Bogus stops doing the same greedy macro build every game people will stop busting him.


the problem is the balance between greed and safety. You need to as greedy as possible against an equally skilled Zerg.
And Innovation is able to defend the Roach-Bane all-ins if he scouts it in time, so he probably does this build and relies on reacting to his opponents play

This isn't WoL. Zerg can't take fast 3-Hatch against a 2-base Terran, and Terran can't do it either.

It would be a bit strange for Terran to go fast 3-hatch, even in HotS

Not impossible for the all next zerg bonjwas out there.
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5077
Damn guys why is Mr. Chae such a boss?
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5078
I just woke up, I like how none of the predictions are right. :DDDD
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5079
Even if Innovation got last in his group and this was happening before the TL power rank, they'd still put him as number 1.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16848 Posts
June 07 2013 09:16 GMT
#5080
Ah well. Either INnoVation fixes this build addiction or he'll learn that the reason some champions of SC2 have not faded away is because they adapted to everything. Mvp can do it all. I think INno can too.
The Bomber boy
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