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[WCS AM] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 1 2013 - Page 58

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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 02 2013 21:13 GMT
#1141
On June 03 2013 06:12 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On June 03 2013 06:10 Greendotz wrote:
Wow, I think video game pros as a whole are pretty introverted and closed off (not everyone can be like MC) but Alive seems really shy.


He's called the Invisible Terran (#2) for a reason


who was #1

Light in BW, he just played a really generic but strong playstyle.
Glorious SEA doto
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
June 02 2013 21:13 GMT
#1142
On June 03 2013 06:12 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On June 03 2013 06:10 Greendotz wrote:
Wow, I think video game pros as a whole are pretty introverted and closed off (not everyone can be like MC) but Alive seems really shy.


He's called the Invisible Terran (#2) for a reason


who was #1


How would we know?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
June 02 2013 21:13 GMT
#1143
I'm gonna stay up for the finals so I do hope this series will be over quickly.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 02 2013 21:14 GMT
#1144
On June 03 2013 06:12 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On June 03 2013 06:10 Greendotz wrote:
Wow, I think video game pros as a whole are pretty introverted and closed off (not everyone can be like MC) but Alive seems really shy.


He's called the Invisible Terran (#2) for a reason


who was #1

(T)Light
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Nomzter
Profile Joined March 2012
Sweden2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 21:14:24
June 02 2013 21:14 GMT
#1145
On June 03 2013 06:12 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On June 03 2013 06:10 Greendotz wrote:
Wow, I think video game pros as a whole are pretty introverted and closed off (not everyone can be like MC) but Alive seems really shy.


He's called the Invisible Terran (#2) for a reason


who was #1

nvm
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 02 2013 21:14 GMT
#1146
On June 03 2013 06:12 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 06:12 Zealously wrote:
On June 03 2013 06:10 Greendotz wrote:
Wow, I think video game pros as a whole are pretty introverted and closed off (not everyone can be like MC) but Alive seems really shy.


He's called the Invisible Terran (#2) for a reason


who was #1

Woongjin Stars' LighT
AdministratorBreak the chains
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9297 Posts
June 02 2013 21:15 GMT
#1147
Who's doing observing for this tournament?
You're now breathing manually
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
June 02 2013 21:15 GMT
#1148
On June 03 2013 06:10 Greendotz wrote:
Wow, I think video game pros as a whole are pretty introverted and closed off (not everyone can be like MC) but Alive seems really shy.

Apparently hes a funny guy but put a camera in front him and he goes into mouse mode.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 02 2013 21:15 GMT
#1149
revival getting speed and roaches but with no banelings. I don't really know if thats going to work that well.
dreaming of a sunny day
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
June 02 2013 21:16 GMT
#1150
On June 03 2013 06:12 Bowzar wrote:
Alive really brings out the inner bully in me.


I don't know what's more horrible, the comment itself, or the fact that it's the only thing that's made me laugh out loud all week.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
June 02 2013 21:16 GMT
#1151
On June 03 2013 06:12 packrat386 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 06:09 aZealot wrote:
On June 03 2013 06:02 packrat386 wrote:
On June 03 2013 05:59 IshinShishi wrote:
On June 03 2013 05:57 Obsidian wrote:
On June 03 2013 05:54 packrat386 wrote:
colossi > chargelots >>> tanks. Seriously though, the only tank build that was ever viable in TvP was the 1-1-1 and that was 100% designed to hit before things like colossus come out.


All the games went long enough that there's no way he couldn't have built a second factory with tech for tanks. Hero went blink-stalkers every game, and I'm not talking about tank-heavy, but a few would most certainly have not been amiss, especially considering how defensive Ryung was playing.

wait let me get my einstein hair so we can discuss tanks vs protoss


I mean maybe this works at the like high masters low GM level before pro. But I have yet to see a successful tank build vs protoss and I have watched a LOT of fucking SC2. The problem is that colossi are pretty effective, chargelots can chew through them and if you try to block with your army you just lose that instead, and if you really commit then they'll just make a few immortals and then you're really fucked. I just don't see it ever working unless its like a surprisey timing attack kind of thing.


Tanks stomp on Stalker, Sentries, and yes, even those glass cannons, Colossus. A few (not many) for base defense are invaluable against those pushes. Marauders are basically walking tanks, but sometimes you want that siege range (especially since you don't have to pay for it anymore). Tanks still have a use, even in a Terran arsenal of WM and Marauders.



I feel like if this was true we would still see the 1-1-1 and builds like it. At least in highest level PvT (the GSL) tanks are pretty notably absent.


True, but I meant defensively. In the case of Protoss pushes like this, a couple of tanks are invaluable. After all, it's not like the Protoss can warp in Immortals, right? In offense, apart from the 1/1/1 timing attack, tanks are not that good because they can be countered by Zealots and Immortals. Also, because their immobility does not work well with the mass mobility of other Terran units. Besides, as a Protoss the main problem with the 1/1/1 was not really the tanks but the marine count.


KT best KT ~ 2014
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
June 02 2013 21:16 GMT
#1152
Err that was a really weird pressure.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 02 2013 21:16 GMT
#1153
yeah that didn't work so well. You NEED banes here.
dreaming of a sunny day
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 21:17:20
June 02 2013 21:16 GMT
#1154
On June 03 2013 06:15 Sent. wrote:
Who's doing observing for this tournament?

AGIANTSMURF. I think he's on coL's academy team or something
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/AGIANTSMURF
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 21:17:41
June 02 2013 21:17 GMT
#1155
If Alive doesn't mess up, this game is decided.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
June 02 2013 21:17 GMT
#1156
I don't remember when I last saw a zerg actually kill the supply depot instead.
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 02 2013 21:17 GMT
#1157
well now has aLive has map control and the third CC. Thats a pretty big goddam advantage.
dreaming of a sunny day
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
June 02 2013 21:18 GMT
#1158
Meh these kind of builds without banelings aren't that good. Alive going 3cc double ebay no scout and only a few marines and hellions and is still fine with repair, gotta commit more to actually bust through or just go for the roaches without lings to kill off repairing workers.
hundred thousand krouner
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 02 2013 21:19 GMT
#1159
If at first you don't succeed. More roaches
dreaming of a sunny day
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
June 02 2013 21:19 GMT
#1160
Upgrades aLive ? Mybe ?
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