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On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything.
Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved.
What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue.
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On May 29 2013 21:38 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:30 lichter wrote:
I wonder what would happen if we all go on strike from doing LRs until this shit is kept out of LR threads (and kept in threads dedicated for this argument instead).
eh i don't want it to ever come to that (although to be honest all it would take is for me to go afk on LR-premaking and calendar management rofl). that would unreasonably punish all the true fans. the baiters just come in after the results are done and spout whatever nonsensical crap they have
If you guys would stop doing lrs I would litersly cry  stay strong and ignore the trolls
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue.
better to have zero people in the first place ;D
On May 29 2013 21:42 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:23 bittman wrote:Also I can't even be bothered to reply to how wrong Scarecrow is. Can someone tell him for me that he's wrong? That would be great. Please use the words "obnoxious" and "elitist" if you want to make it a little dirty. If not, just use facts. EDIT: Thanks opterown. <3 Going on your sig I'm not surprised you're losing interest in GSL. I can see how you find it obnoxious to come to the realisation that many of your favourite teams/players just aren't that good relative to these Kespa's you've never followed before. Elitist and Kespa pretty much go hand in hand. They're the elite these days, got 14 or 15/22 Code S spots to prove it, and will only get more dominant. I'd also love to see these 'facts' showing what I said is wrong (though I guess you're at least as biased as I am), in terms of results Kespa players are doing significantly better than their ESF counterparts.
true colours, you're a great example of an elitist BW fan
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whew, at least kespa won
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 29 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. better to have zero people in the first place ;D Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:42 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:23 bittman wrote:Also I can't even be bothered to reply to how wrong Scarecrow is. Can someone tell him for me that he's wrong? That would be great. Please use the words "obnoxious" and "elitist" if you want to make it a little dirty. If not, just use facts. EDIT: Thanks opterown. <3 Going on your sig I'm not surprised you're losing interest in GSL. I can see how you find it obnoxious to come to the realisation that many of your favourite teams/players just aren't that good relative to these Kespa's you've never followed before. Elitist and Kespa pretty much go hand in hand. They're the elite these days, got 14 or 15/22 Code S spots to prove it, and will only get more dominant. I'd also love to see these 'facts' showing what I said is wrong (though I guess you're at least as biased as I am), in terms of results Kespa players are doing significantly better than their ESF counterparts. true colours, you're a great example of an elitist BW fan
we need thicker skin bro
chitinous plating
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On May 29 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. better to have zero people in the first place ;D
True indeed but as long as opinions and rivalry exists there will always be that one person.
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On May 29 2013 21:50 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. better to have zero people in the first place ;D On May 29 2013 21:42 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:23 bittman wrote:Also I can't even be bothered to reply to how wrong Scarecrow is. Can someone tell him for me that he's wrong? That would be great. Please use the words "obnoxious" and "elitist" if you want to make it a little dirty. If not, just use facts. EDIT: Thanks opterown. <3 Going on your sig I'm not surprised you're losing interest in GSL. I can see how you find it obnoxious to come to the realisation that many of your favourite teams/players just aren't that good relative to these Kespa's you've never followed before. Elitist and Kespa pretty much go hand in hand. They're the elite these days, got 14 or 15/22 Code S spots to prove it, and will only get more dominant. I'd also love to see these 'facts' showing what I said is wrong (though I guess you're at least as biased as I am), in terms of results Kespa players are doing significantly better than their ESF counterparts. true colours, you're a great example of an elitist BW fan we need thicker skin bro chitinous plating
rather shield upgrade 
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 29 2013 21:51 gTank wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:50 lichter wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. better to have zero people in the first place ;D On May 29 2013 21:42 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:23 bittman wrote:Also I can't even be bothered to reply to how wrong Scarecrow is. Can someone tell him for me that he's wrong? That would be great. Please use the words "obnoxious" and "elitist" if you want to make it a little dirty. If not, just use facts. EDIT: Thanks opterown. <3 Going on your sig I'm not surprised you're losing interest in GSL. I can see how you find it obnoxious to come to the realisation that many of your favourite teams/players just aren't that good relative to these Kespa's you've never followed before. Elitist and Kespa pretty much go hand in hand. They're the elite these days, got 14 or 15/22 Code S spots to prove it, and will only get more dominant. I'd also love to see these 'facts' showing what I said is wrong (though I guess you're at least as biased as I am), in terms of results Kespa players are doing significantly better than their ESF counterparts. true colours, you're a great example of an elitist BW fan we need thicker skin bro chitinous plating rather shield upgrade
your icon is terran, so probably... building armor?
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Finding Kespa players better is not the problem (because it's pretty much a fact indeed at this point).
Shitting disrespectfully on the players we all followed and loved for 3 years is :/
That's like if we were making jokes on Bisu for not being sent out in Proleague anymore, WAIT WE ARE LOLOLLOLL.
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On May 29 2013 21:42 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:23 bittman wrote:Also I can't even be bothered to reply to how wrong Scarecrow is. Can someone tell him for me that he's wrong? That would be great. Please use the words "obnoxious" and "elitist" if you want to make it a little dirty. If not, just use facts. EDIT: Thanks opterown. <3 Going on your sig I'm not surprised you're losing interest in GSL. I can see how you find it obnoxious to come to the realisation that many of your favourite teams/players just aren't that good relative to these Kespa's you've never followed before. Elitist and Kespa pretty much go hand in hand. They're the elite these days, got 14 or 15/22 Code S spots to prove it, and will only get more dominant. I'd also love to see these 'facts' showing what I said is wrong (though I guess you're at least as biased as I am), in terms of results Kespa players are doing significantly better than their ESF counterparts.
This makes sense. And trolling when your supporting side is winning is just like dropping mules or building nexus in middle of map. BM for sure, but opponents can also rub it in when they are winning, all good sports stuff as long as no personal attacks.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 29 2013 21:53 ZenithM wrote:Finding Kespa players better is not the problem (because it's pretty much a fact indeed at this point). Shitting disrespectfully on the players we all followed and loved for 3 years is :/ That's like if we were making jokes on Bisu for not being sent out in Proleague anymore, WAIT WE ARE LOLOLLOLL. + Show Spoiler +
Hey hey hey they are allowing him to lose next round y'know
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On May 29 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. better to have zero people in the first place ;D Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:42 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:23 bittman wrote:Also I can't even be bothered to reply to how wrong Scarecrow is. Can someone tell him for me that he's wrong? That would be great. Please use the words "obnoxious" and "elitist" if you want to make it a little dirty. If not, just use facts. EDIT: Thanks opterown. <3 Going on your sig I'm not surprised you're losing interest in GSL. I can see how you find it obnoxious to come to the realisation that many of your favourite teams/players just aren't that good relative to these Kespa's you've never followed before. Elitist and Kespa pretty much go hand in hand. They're the elite these days, got 14 or 15/22 Code S spots to prove it, and will only get more dominant. I'd also love to see these 'facts' showing what I said is wrong (though I guess you're at least as biased as I am), in terms of results Kespa players are doing significantly better than their ESF counterparts. true colours, you're a great example of an elitist BW fan
I can see how it'd strike the nerve of a Prime fanboy. It's nice getting proved right almost every time I pick FPL players or look at an LR thread.
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On May 29 2013 21:53 ZenithM wrote:Finding Kespa players better is not the problem (because it's pretty much a fact indeed at this point). Shitting disrespectfully on the players we all followed and loved for 3 years is :/ That's like if we were making jokes on Bisu for not being sent out in Proleague anymore, WAIT WE ARE LOLOLLOLL. + Show Spoiler +
Even his fans are making fun of him on the stage during showmatches. T_T
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opterown
Australia54785 Posts
On May 29 2013 21:57 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. better to have zero people in the first place ;D On May 29 2013 21:42 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:23 bittman wrote:Also I can't even be bothered to reply to how wrong Scarecrow is. Can someone tell him for me that he's wrong? That would be great. Please use the words "obnoxious" and "elitist" if you want to make it a little dirty. If not, just use facts. EDIT: Thanks opterown. <3 Going on your sig I'm not surprised you're losing interest in GSL. I can see how you find it obnoxious to come to the realisation that many of your favourite teams/players just aren't that good relative to these Kespa's you've never followed before. Elitist and Kespa pretty much go hand in hand. They're the elite these days, got 14 or 15/22 Code S spots to prove it, and will only get more dominant. I'd also love to see these 'facts' showing what I said is wrong (though I guess you're at least as biased as I am), in terms of results Kespa players are doing significantly better than their ESF counterparts. true colours, you're a great example of an elitist BW fan I can see how it'd strike the nerve of a Prime fanboy. It's nice getting proved right almost every time I pick FPL players or look at an LR thread.
resorting to personal attacks, i like it
very snide and unbecoming
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On May 29 2013 21:58 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:57 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. better to have zero people in the first place ;D On May 29 2013 21:42 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:23 bittman wrote:Also I can't even be bothered to reply to how wrong Scarecrow is. Can someone tell him for me that he's wrong? That would be great. Please use the words "obnoxious" and "elitist" if you want to make it a little dirty. If not, just use facts. EDIT: Thanks opterown. <3 Going on your sig I'm not surprised you're losing interest in GSL. I can see how you find it obnoxious to come to the realisation that many of your favourite teams/players just aren't that good relative to these Kespa's you've never followed before. Elitist and Kespa pretty much go hand in hand. They're the elite these days, got 14 or 15/22 Code S spots to prove it, and will only get more dominant. I'd also love to see these 'facts' showing what I said is wrong (though I guess you're at least as biased as I am), in terms of results Kespa players are doing significantly better than their ESF counterparts. true colours, you're a great example of an elitist BW fan I can see how it'd strike the nerve of a Prime fanboy. It's nice getting proved right almost every time I pick FPL players or look at an LR thread. resorting to personal attacks, i like it very snide and unbecoming
he is a true sports fan
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Well for those talking about Yoda taking MVP's power, I think it's back where it belongs  .
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Olli
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On May 29 2013 21:49 cumskin85 wrote:
whew, at least kespa won
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I just almost spat out water all over my computer. Well played sir.
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On May 29 2013 21:57 Scarecrow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. better to have zero people in the first place ;D On May 29 2013 21:42 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:23 bittman wrote:Also I can't even be bothered to reply to how wrong Scarecrow is. Can someone tell him for me that he's wrong? That would be great. Please use the words "obnoxious" and "elitist" if you want to make it a little dirty. If not, just use facts. EDIT: Thanks opterown. <3 Going on your sig I'm not surprised you're losing interest in GSL. I can see how you find it obnoxious to come to the realisation that many of your favourite teams/players just aren't that good relative to these Kespa's you've never followed before. Elitist and Kespa pretty much go hand in hand. They're the elite these days, got 14 or 15/22 Code S spots to prove it, and will only get more dominant. I'd also love to see these 'facts' showing what I said is wrong (though I guess you're at least as biased as I am), in terms of results Kespa players are doing significantly better than their ESF counterparts. true colours, you're a great example of an elitist BW fan I can see how it'd strike the nerve of a Prime fanboy. It's nice getting proved right almost every time I pick FPL players or look at an LR thread.
But fighting for the winning side is no fun man. Look at my sig, now that's what's called manly supporting.
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On May 29 2013 22:01 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2013 21:57 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 opterown wrote:On May 29 2013 21:45 BlazeFury01 wrote:On May 29 2013 21:00 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:53 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:49 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:46 HolyArrow wrote:On May 29 2013 20:38 eGoRama wrote:On May 29 2013 20:36 Acer1791 wrote:
ok his post is strongly biased, but lets be honest, kespa players seem to be overall the better ones right now.
there are a few top esf players who are on par maybe, but in generell kespa > esf ( i think everyone can agree on that) So? Who cares who is better and who is not, can ppl just enjoy the games? The thing is that some Kespa > ESF gloaters are big BW fans who are apparently still butthurt that the BW scene ended, largely in part due to SC2, so their way of coping is to pollute threads with their baiting (this isn't unfounded speculation on my part - I've seen some posters explicitly and unabashedly admit that they're doing this to piss people off). To be clear, I don't mean in any way to generalize and accuse all BW fans of doing this because most of them are cool, reasonable people, but there are certainly a few bad apples. Yep I know that, I am just amused how no matter what is going on, instead of talking about the games/strategy/plays the topic is changed to Kespa vs eSF bullcrap. Like every time For how much you and others say you hate this bullcrap, you and your fellow anti-kespa vs esf'ers have produced well over half the Kespa vs ESF related posts in this thread. Ignore the odd Kespa!!!! and stop drowning this thread in more of the shit you're complaining about. You realize that your line of reasoning is flawed because it essentially incriminates you as well? It's the exact same pattern every time. Shitposting -> responses to shitposting criticizing said shitposting -> that one guy responding to the responses to the shitposting, criticizing said responses In the end, it's the original shitposting to blame for starting everything. Actually it's the person who responds to the trash posting because then it gives the trash poster motive to reply which then starts an argument and encourages others to get involved. What's an argument with only one person? Exactly, it takes two people to argue. better to have zero people in the first place ;D On May 29 2013 21:42 Scarecrow wrote:On May 29 2013 21:23 bittman wrote:Also I can't even be bothered to reply to how wrong Scarecrow is. Can someone tell him for me that he's wrong? That would be great. Please use the words "obnoxious" and "elitist" if you want to make it a little dirty. If not, just use facts. EDIT: Thanks opterown. <3 Going on your sig I'm not surprised you're losing interest in GSL. I can see how you find it obnoxious to come to the realisation that many of your favourite teams/players just aren't that good relative to these Kespa's you've never followed before. Elitist and Kespa pretty much go hand in hand. They're the elite these days, got 14 or 15/22 Code S spots to prove it, and will only get more dominant. I'd also love to see these 'facts' showing what I said is wrong (though I guess you're at least as biased as I am), in terms of results Kespa players are doing significantly better than their ESF counterparts. true colours, you're a great example of an elitist BW fan I can see how it'd strike the nerve of a Prime fanboy. It's nice getting proved right almost every time I pick FPL players or look at an LR thread. But fighting for the winning side is no fun man. Look at my sig, now that's what's called manly supporting.
He wants to fight for the side that fights for the living.
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The core of the issue is that BW is dead and SC2 killed BW while being a worse game. I am a BW elitist but I watch SC2 now because BW is dead and there is nothing I can do about it because I would still rather watch Bisu and Stork struggle at a worse game rather than Sea and Shuttle stomp the same 6 b-teamers over and over again on Snipealot's stream. We follow our favourite players.
It's become obvious that Kespa players have taken over Code S and its for a very simple reason. Their coaching and practice develops better mechanics and better game sense. Its also obvious that Kespa players have taken over so quickly and completely because the skill ceiling is so low compared to BW. Yes, it is a different set of skills, but regardless, it is a lower skill ceiling. That is why younger players like Rain, Bogus, and Innovation have adapted better than the older pros. I don't think the old pros such as Stork, Jaedong, and even Fantasy will really be as good as they were in BW. So yes, we are a bit bitter. That's why it is satisfying to see Kespa players beat up ESF players and that's why some of the more hooliganish BW fans love going "KESPAAAAAAA!!!". What they are really saying is "BROODWARRRR!!!!" Its revenge, not against ESF, but against SC2.
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