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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
May 19 2013 04:28 GMT
#281
On May 19 2013 13:26 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:20 forsooth wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:18 Talack wrote:
This is more dominate than MVP's 2011 run, just crazy

Let's not get carried away, Innovation needs to actually win something first.

to be dominating - no he doesn't.


to compare him to Mvp, he does.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19387 Posts
May 19 2013 04:28 GMT
#282
On May 19 2013 13:25 TimENT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:17 BisuDagger wrote:
This is frustrating to watch.


How? This guy is macroing, microing, positioning, and playing perfectly. The only way I see it as frustrating is this: he is at a level I KNOW I will NEVER get to.

Like I said in my most recent post, it was frustrating to see Effort lose so "Effortlessly" so to speak. I hurt seeing him get run over like that. That's why it's upsetting. Has nothing to do with balance, Innovation just made Effort look less than mortal.
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Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
May 19 2013 04:28 GMT
#283
On May 19 2013 13:26 EleanorRIgby wrote:
innovations widow mines just seem to get crazy good hits while mine usually kill a few lings or kill my own marines..


he might micro them... no way to really tell, though.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 04:29:32
May 19 2013 04:28 GMT
#284
On May 19 2013 13:26 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:20 forsooth wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:18 Talack wrote:
This is more dominate than MVP's 2011 run, just crazy

Let's not get carried away, Innovation needs to actually win something first.

to be dominating - no he doesn't.

You can't have one without the other. If you're not winning tournaments, then you're not actually dominating. Mvp won three GSLs and an MLG from January-August in 2011, Innovation currently has nothing to his name except looking really amazing in one matchup. It's not the same, not even a little.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 19 2013 04:29 GMT
#285
On May 19 2013 13:28 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:26 EleanorRIgby wrote:
innovations widow mines just seem to get crazy good hits while mine usually kill a few lings or kill my own marines..


he might micro them... no way to really tell, though.

can you micro mines though? :S I thought you couldn't.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
May 19 2013 04:29 GMT
#286
Reach<33
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Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
May 19 2013 04:29 GMT
#287
So no shortage of games for Symbol to study innovation's TvZ.

GL HF Symbol
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
May 19 2013 04:29 GMT
#288
On May 19 2013 13:29 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:28 Popkiller wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:26 EleanorRIgby wrote:
innovations widow mines just seem to get crazy good hits while mine usually kill a few lings or kill my own marines..


he might micro them... no way to really tell, though.

can you micro mines though? :S I thought you couldn't.

you can target them. every time you target something it resets the cast timer as well
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TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
May 19 2013 04:29 GMT
#289
On May 19 2013 13:28 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:25 TimENT wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:17 BisuDagger wrote:
This is frustrating to watch.


How? This guy is macroing, microing, positioning, and playing perfectly. The only way I see it as frustrating is this: he is at a level I KNOW I will NEVER get to.

Like I said in my most recent post, it was frustrating to see Effort lose so "Effortlessly" so to speak. I hurt seeing him get run over like that. That's why it's upsetting. Has nothing to do with balance, Innovation just made Effort look less than mortal.


My apologies! I just assumed it was typical internet whine, not something legit :D
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
May 19 2013 04:30 GMT
#290
no point in watching the last match, I know who's gonna win(I think lol). night all ^_^
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
May 19 2013 04:30 GMT
#291
On May 19 2013 13:28 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:26 rj rl wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:20 forsooth wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:18 Talack wrote:
This is more dominate than MVP's 2011 run, just crazy

Let's not get carried away, Innovation needs to actually win something first.

to be dominating - no he doesn't.


to compare him to Mvp, he does.

go compare jjakji and sniper to mvp then, so far you sound like a defending fanboy a bit.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
May 19 2013 04:30 GMT
#292
On May 19 2013 13:27 largehadroncollider wrote:
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On May 19 2013 13:21 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:18 Talack wrote:
This is more dominate than MVP's 2011 run, just crazy

Not exactly, INoVation needs to win a tournament at least, and across multiple regions.


Haha I don't think these "INnoVation must win something first" counter arguments are relevant at all. If players like INnoVation, Flash, Rain, Soulkey etc etc etc were playing SC2 back then, it would have been an entirely different scenario.


Yeah, maybe proleague would have people watching and esf players would be playing LoL atm.
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 19 2013 04:30 GMT
#293
The only way Symbol to win is to go cheese No way for him to play macro game with INoVation.
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snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
May 19 2013 04:30 GMT
#294
Yeah if they had a good terran I would send him without hesitation. Hellbats make the match kind of a coin flip. I actually though liked old tvt a lot better when it would more positional tank marine without them having to worry about getting doomed drop all the time.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
May 19 2013 04:30 GMT
#295
On May 19 2013 13:30 BigFan wrote:
no point in watching the last match, I know who's gonna win(I think lol). night all ^_^

yea...we all totally knew, turn was going to beat Innovation.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
May 19 2013 04:31 GMT
#296
Gogo Bogus!

So nice having a dominant terran player again.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
May 19 2013 04:31 GMT
#297
On May 19 2013 13:29 Highwinds wrote:
So no shortage of games for Symbol to study innovation's TvZ.

GL HF Symbol


ya, but innovation is aware of that too. that's why he let that nydus go up in his main. symbol probably creamed his lair when he saw that.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 19 2013 04:32 GMT
#298
On May 19 2013 13:28 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:26 rj rl wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:20 forsooth wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:18 Talack wrote:
This is more dominate than MVP's 2011 run, just crazy

Let's not get carried away, Innovation needs to actually win something first.

to be dominating - no he doesn't.

You can't have one without the other. If you're not winning tournaments, then you're not actually dominating. Mvp won three GSLs and an MLG from January-August in 2011, Innovation currently has nothing to his name except looking really amazing in one matchup. It's not the same, not even a little.

tournaments usually follow from dominating, but they're not the same. no has or will have a 100% win rate in an rts. you can be clearly the best player and favorite in any match without necessarily winning a tournament.
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BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
May 19 2013 04:32 GMT
#299
Have the games been good? I haven't had to see Innovation in his prime as in his games in GSL
Khalleb
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1909 Posts
May 19 2013 04:32 GMT
#300
On May 19 2013 13:30 snakeeyez wrote:
Yeah if they had a good terran I would send him without hesitation. Hellbats make the match kind of a coin flip. I actually though liked old tvt a lot better when it would more positional tank marine without them having to worry about getting doomed drop all the time.

i don't think skyhigh can allkill STX that's why you see hero
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