EPTto compare him to Mvp, he does.
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Popkiller
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to compare him to Mvp, he does. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19240 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:25 TimENT wrote: How? This guy is macroing, microing, positioning, and playing perfectly. The only way I see it as frustrating is this: he is at a level I KNOW I will NEVER get to. Like I said in my most recent post, it was frustrating to see Effort lose so "Effortlessly" so to speak. I hurt seeing him get run over like that. That's why it's upsetting. Has nothing to do with balance, Innovation just made Effort look less than mortal. | ||
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Popkiller
3415 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:26 EleanorRIgby wrote: innovations widow mines just seem to get crazy good hits while mine usually kill a few lings or kill my own marines.. he might micro them... no way to really tell, though. | ||
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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
You can't have one without the other. If you're not winning tournaments, then you're not actually dominating. Mvp won three GSLs and an MLG from January-August in 2011, Innovation currently has nothing to his name except looking really amazing in one matchup. It's not the same, not even a little. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:28 Popkiller wrote: he might micro them... no way to really tell, though. can you micro mines though? :S I thought you couldn't. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
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Highwinds
Canada955 Posts
GL HF Symbol | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:29 BigFan wrote: can you micro mines though? :S I thought you couldn't. you can target them. every time you target something it resets the cast timer as well | ||
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:28 BisuDagger wrote: Like I said in my most recent post, it was frustrating to see Effort lose so "Effortlessly" so to speak. I hurt seeing him get run over like that. That's why it's upsetting. Has nothing to do with balance, Innovation just made Effort look less than mortal. My apologies! I just assumed it was typical internet whine, not something legit :D | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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rj rl
648 Posts
go compare jjakji and sniper to mvp then, so far you sound like a defending fanboy a bit. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:27 largehadroncollider wrote: Haha I don't think these "INnoVation must win something first" counter arguments are relevant at all. If players like INnoVation, Flash, Rain, Soulkey etc etc etc were playing SC2 back then, it would have been an entirely different scenario. Yeah, maybe proleague would have people watching and esf players would be playing LoL atm. | ||
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[OGN]Remmy
United States1206 Posts
 No way for him to play macro game with INoVation. | ||
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snakeeyez
United States1231 Posts
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:30 BigFan wrote: no point in watching the last match, I know who's gonna win(I think lol). night all ^_^ yea...we all totally knew, turn was going to beat Innovation. | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
So nice having a dominant terran player again. | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:29 Highwinds wrote: So no shortage of games for Symbol to study innovation's TvZ. GL HF Symbol ya, but innovation is aware of that too. that's why he let that nydus go up in his main. symbol probably creamed his lair when he saw that. | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:28 forsooth wrote: You can't have one without the other. If you're not winning tournaments, then you're not actually dominating. Mvp won three GSLs and an MLG from January-August in 2011, Innovation currently has nothing to his name except looking really amazing in one matchup. It's not the same, not even a little. tournaments usually follow from dominating, but they're not the same. no has or will have a 100% win rate in an rts. you can be clearly the best player and favorite in any match without necessarily winning a tournament. | ||
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
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Khalleb
Canada1909 Posts
On May 19 2013 13:30 snakeeyez wrote: Yeah if they had a good terran I would send him without hesitation. Hellbats make the match kind of a coin flip. I actually though liked old tvt a lot better when it would more positional tank marine without them having to worry about getting doomed drop all the time. i don't think skyhigh can allkill STX that's why you see hero | ||
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