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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
May 19 2013 04:37 GMT
#321
If Innovation comes out ahead against an unscouted proxy oracle...I just don't even know man.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
May 19 2013 04:37 GMT
#322
Not noticing the Probe might be the difference between a win and a loss.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
May 19 2013 04:37 GMT
#323
On May 19 2013 13:33 Popkiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:30 rj rl wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:28 Popkiller wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:26 rj rl wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:20 forsooth wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:18 Talack wrote:
This is more dominate than MVP's 2011 run, just crazy

Let's not get carried away, Innovation needs to actually win something first.

to be dominating - no he doesn't.


to compare him to Mvp, he does.

go compare jjakji and sniper to mvp then, so far you sound like a defending fanboy a bit.


there are guys who have won multiple GSLs and foreign tournaments, and there are guys who haven't. it's pretty simple.

I will pretend that foreign tournaments aren't irrelevant at all and answer to your whole message: the scene evolves and gets by far more gosu dense each year. Is it not simple for you?
GattAttack
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Canada202 Posts
May 19 2013 04:37 GMT
#324
hero doing the sane thing...try to finish innovation off early
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
May 19 2013 04:37 GMT
#325
I loathe how brutal proxy oracle is.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
May 19 2013 04:37 GMT
#326
Anyone know if "Innovation" (43-2 GM) on NA is the real one? Getting desperate to find a challenge perhaps.
GattAttack
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Canada202 Posts
May 19 2013 04:38 GMT
#327
On May 19 2013 13:37 playa wrote:
Anyone know if "Innovation" (43-2 GM) on NA is the real one? Getting desperate to find a challenge perhaps.


And he's doing it on the NA ladder?
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
May 19 2013 04:38 GMT
#328
On May 19 2013 13:37 playa wrote:
Anyone know if "Innovation" (43-2 GM) on NA is the real one? Getting desperate to find a challenge perhaps.

From what I know, that's xenocider.
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
evergreensc
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 19 2013 04:38 GMT
#329
He lost almost nothing. :l
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-19 04:39:34
May 19 2013 04:39 GMT
#330
On May 19 2013 13:37 playa wrote:
Anyone know if "Innovation" (43-2 GM) on NA is the real one? Getting desperate to find a challenge perhaps.


The 2 losses should be a dead give away that it isn't Innovation.

On May 19 2013 13:37 Mohdoo wrote:
If Innovation comes out ahead against an unscouted proxy oracle...I just don't even know man.


On May 19 2013 13:38 evergreensc wrote:
He lost almost nothing. :l

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
May 19 2013 04:39 GMT
#331
On May 19 2013 13:36 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:27 largehadroncollider wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:21 PhoenixVoid wrote:
On May 19 2013 13:18 Talack wrote:
This is more dominate than MVP's 2011 run, just crazy

Not exactly, INoVation needs to win a tournament at least, and across multiple regions.


Haha I don't think these "INnoVation must win something first" counter arguments are relevant at all. If players like INnoVation, Flash, Rain, Soulkey etc etc etc were playing SC2 back then, it would have been an entirely different scenario.

true, but mvp was dominant in all matchup whereas innovation only has this aura of inviciblity in his best matchup, tvz. remember how unbeatable mvp (in his prime) was in tvt? how dominant he was in tvz? and how i was able to win a gsl against almost only protoss opponents, very strong ones nonetheless, at a time where his wrists were already exploding and protoss had the upper hand in the pvt metagame? mvp has the ability to conjure victories out of nothing. so far, innovation has only shown this skill in tvz alone.


MVP winning that GSL with hurt wrists and in his match-up he struggled with for the longest time, after a period of domination had ended and people begun writing him up, is by the far the greatest sc2 experience that has happened to me so far.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
May 19 2013 04:39 GMT
#332
I guess INoVation didn't even need Missile Turrets to defend against proxy Oracles.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 19 2013 04:39 GMT
#333
On May 19 2013 13:37 playa wrote:
Anyone know if "Innovation" (43-2 GM) on NA is the real one? Getting desperate to find a challenge perhaps.


He wouldn't waste any time playing on NA, that doesn't help him whatsoever.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 19 2013 04:39 GMT
#334
On May 19 2013 13:37 playa wrote:
Anyone know if "Innovation" (43-2 GM) on NA is the real one? Getting desperate to find a challenge perhaps.

I doubt it. It's probably another prime player impersonating someone else's ID getting tired of Korea since they seem to be unable to win anything anymore. ByuN was already playing on NA and the team is known for copying many other IDs to ladder: Boxer, Flash, Rain, Effort, etc
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
May 19 2013 04:40 GMT
#335
On May 19 2013 13:37 playa wrote:
Anyone know if "Innovation" (43-2 GM) on NA is the real one? Getting desperate to find a challenge perhaps.

The only reason why INoVation would play on NA is if he ran out of player tears to fuel his TvZ.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
May 19 2013 04:40 GMT
#336
Why doesn't anyone hallucinate oracles to scout? It's always phoenixes, are they that much faster? He could also move a hallucinated one in one base then attack with the real one at another? Maybe I'm thinking too much about it.
evergreensc
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
May 19 2013 04:41 GMT
#337
herO's micro this game has been excellent.
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
May 19 2013 04:41 GMT
#338
On May 19 2013 13:39 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:37 playa wrote:
Anyone know if "Innovation" (43-2 GM) on NA is the real one? Getting desperate to find a challenge perhaps.

I doubt it. It's probably another prime player impersonating someone else's ID getting tired of Korea since they seem to be unable to win anything anymore. ByuN was already playing on NA and the team is known for copying many other IDs to ladder: Boxer, Flash, Rain, Effort, etc

Pretty sure I saw xenocider streaming from that name..
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Magic_Mike
Profile Joined May 2010
United States542 Posts
May 19 2013 04:41 GMT
#339
On May 19 2013 13:25 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 13:24 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Innovation 22-2 in HoTS TvZ across all competitions ^^. Loss to Soulkey in Proleague and a 2-1 victory over Leenock in the Asian Indoor Games qualifiers

So?
(Z)hitmaN has 100% winrate in ZvT in all of Sc2

Nope. Lost to Innovation in Proleague on Antiga Shipyard. Here
snakeeyez
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1231 Posts
May 19 2013 04:41 GMT
#340
Yeah without doubt immvp is the best player in SC 2 by far. Innovation has to prove he is good by winning some stuff otherwise the hype means nothing.
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