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Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 18:41:48
May 17 2013 18:40 GMT
#921
On May 18 2013 03:37 gOst wrote:
How was it that stephano was able to hold there?
I didn't see any major mistakes from thorzain. Without banelingspeed when the push started he should have been dead..

The difference between ThorZain and top Korean Terran in this case would be that Korean would have a lot better split and micro, and in those engagement he would drop at two places at once constantly and he would be saving the Medivacs...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
May 17 2013 18:42 GMT
#922
On May 18 2013 03:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:37 gOst wrote:
How was it that stephano was able to hold there?
I didn't see any major mistakes from thorzain. Without banelingspeed when the push started he should have been dead..

The difference between ThorZain and top Korean Terran in this case would be that Korean would have a lot better split and micro, and in those engagement he would drop on two sides constantly and he would be saving the Medivacs...

yeah i think the 4th base would die in the chaos to 2 marauders and 6 marines. Even with 5 spines, there's always an angle.
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
May 17 2013 18:42 GMT
#923
On May 18 2013 03:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:37 gOst wrote:
How was it that stephano was able to hold there?
I didn't see any major mistakes from thorzain. Without banelingspeed when the push started he should have been dead..

The difference between ThorZain and top Korean Terran in this case would be that Korean would have a lot better split and micro, and in those engagement he would drop on two sides constantly and he would be saving the Medivacs...


You're overestimating korean terrans a bit...they don't have 500 apm...
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
May 17 2013 18:43 GMT
#924
On May 18 2013 03:39 Oboeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:38 Bowzar wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:36 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:35 mechengineer123 wrote:
so many huge mistakes by stephano, doesn't matter though

ThorZain was making a lot of mistakes, or didn't do anything with units he should too...

So did Stephano. Did you see that engagement before he got ultras? Worst attack ever.


Saved the 3rd.
He got way more out of that engagement (with slow banes) than I was expecting him to.

For a guy that is known for his flanks it was terrible. Both made big mistakes tho. Thorzains bio army were so low on health.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 17 2013 18:44 GMT
#925
On May 18 2013 03:42 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:37 gOst wrote:
How was it that stephano was able to hold there?
I didn't see any major mistakes from thorzain. Without banelingspeed when the push started he should have been dead..

The difference between ThorZain and top Korean Terran in this case would be that Korean would have a lot better split and micro, and in those engagement he would drop on two sides constantly and he would be saving the Medivacs...


You're overestimating korean terrans a bit...they don't have 500 apm...


Not all the korean terrans pull feats like that off, but there are certainly some who do. Gumiho and Innovation come to mind
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dcsoda
Profile Joined June 2011
United States583 Posts
May 17 2013 18:44 GMT
#926
Can't he get in there pretty easily with boost? Or is he saving it to get out if need be? Confused why one queen out there deflected that second medivac
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
May 17 2013 18:45 GMT
#927
lol... 4 roaches shooting at a hellbat as he just moseys around the mineral line killin' drones
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
May 17 2013 18:45 GMT
#928
On May 18 2013 03:42 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:37 gOst wrote:
How was it that stephano was able to hold there?
I didn't see any major mistakes from thorzain. Without banelingspeed when the push started he should have been dead..

The difference between ThorZain and top Korean Terran in this case would be that Korean would have a lot better split and micro, and in those engagement he would drop on two sides constantly and he would be saving the Medivacs...


You're overestimating korean terrans a bit...they don't have 500 apm...

He has a good point tho. Thorzain is really slow for a terran player.
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
May 17 2013 18:46 GMT
#929
fresh hellbats
n.Die_Jaedong
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
May 17 2013 18:46 GMT
#930
On May 18 2013 03:45 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:42 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:37 gOst wrote:
How was it that stephano was able to hold there?
I didn't see any major mistakes from thorzain. Without banelingspeed when the push started he should have been dead..

The difference between ThorZain and top Korean Terran in this case would be that Korean would have a lot better split and micro, and in those engagement he would drop on two sides constantly and he would be saving the Medivacs...


You're overestimating korean terrans a bit...they don't have 500 apm...

He has a good point tho. Thorzain is really slow for a terran player.

And he's also incredibly indecisive.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-17 18:47:31
May 17 2013 18:46 GMT
#931
thorzain is up in supply, even on bases, AHEAD on upgrades.
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
May 17 2013 18:46 GMT
#932
On May 18 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:42 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:37 gOst wrote:
How was it that stephano was able to hold there?
I didn't see any major mistakes from thorzain. Without banelingspeed when the push started he should have been dead..

The difference between ThorZain and top Korean Terran in this case would be that Korean would have a lot better split and micro, and in those engagement he would drop on two sides constantly and he would be saving the Medivacs...


You're overestimating korean terrans a bit...they don't have 500 apm...


Not all the korean terrans pull feats like that off, but there are certainly some who do. Gumiho and Innovation come to mind

Pretty much this. MMA could do it at his prime time too(that is long time gone sadly).

And come on, like every top Korean is saving the Medivacs, ThorZain lost like 5 in the mid game without doing ANY damage, except for getting 4th base to the half hp. Korean Terrans try to drop, if they see Mutas, they boost their way out, ThorZain use the boost to come to the hatchery, and then his Medivac gets instant killed by 10 Mutas...
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
May 17 2013 18:47 GMT
#933
thorzain started off with really high hpm but somehow he slows down now, needs to improve on it
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
May 17 2013 18:47 GMT
#934
This is the part where Thorzain looks like he's winning.
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
May 17 2013 18:47 GMT
#935
Thorzain getting air attack already :o
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
May 17 2013 18:47 GMT
#936
On May 18 2013 03:44 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:42 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:37 gOst wrote:
How was it that stephano was able to hold there?
I didn't see any major mistakes from thorzain. Without banelingspeed when the push started he should have been dead..

The difference between ThorZain and top Korean Terran in this case would be that Korean would have a lot better split and micro, and in those engagement he would drop on two sides constantly and he would be saving the Medivacs...


You're overestimating korean terrans a bit...they don't have 500 apm...


Not all the korean terrans pull feats like that off, but there are certainly some who do. Gumiho and Innovation come to mind

i remember an mlg that had stats about apm (about a year ago?)

drg was first, stephano close behind this, all i can remember but the website is probably still available
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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 17 2013 18:48 GMT
#937
On May 18 2013 03:45 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 03:42 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:40 Ramiz1989 wrote:
On May 18 2013 03:37 gOst wrote:
How was it that stephano was able to hold there?
I didn't see any major mistakes from thorzain. Without banelingspeed when the push started he should have been dead..

The difference between ThorZain and top Korean Terran in this case would be that Korean would have a lot better split and micro, and in those engagement he would drop on two sides constantly and he would be saving the Medivacs...


You're overestimating korean terrans a bit...they don't have 500 apm...

He has a good point tho. Thorzain is really slow for a terran player.


How fast is he on a scale from Sjow to merz?
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
May 17 2013 18:48 GMT
#938
Stephano had to invest so much in early game defense vs the hellbats that it put Thorzain pretty far ahead even if he didn't kill too many drones.
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Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
May 17 2013 18:49 GMT
#939
goddamnit Thorzain don't just stand around waiting for the Ultras to pop...
n.Die_Jaedong
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
May 17 2013 18:49 GMT
#940
On May 18 2013 03:48 Zheryn wrote:
Stephano had to invest so much in early game defense vs the hellbats that it put Thorzain pretty far ahead even if he didn't kill too many drones.


4 queens, 6 spores, early roaches, slow droning, hellbat drops still killed tons of stuff and denied even more mining time
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