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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1966 Posts
May 16 2013 16:31 GMT
#241
wow, very classic/old-schoolish playstyle from lucifron, haven't really seen marine/tank in a while apparently still works ^^ Next time he probably should transition into BL/infestor instead of ultras
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
May 16 2013 16:32 GMT
#242
gratulation for getting your 10000th post today, starve.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
Zyzz12
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany135 Posts
May 16 2013 16:32 GMT
#243
On May 17 2013 01:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:28 sibs wrote:
Aligulac's prediction!
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 63.97% 34.87% 29.10% 19.86% 16.17%
Nerchio 51.99% 25.87% 26.12% 24.56% 23.45%
Mvp 46.18% 22.33% 23.85% 26.52% 27.30%
SaSe 37.86% 16.93% 20.93% 29.06% 33.08%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Nechio losing game 1 actually drops Nerchio to 4th in the prediction and moves Mvp and Sase up to 2nd and 3rd
+ Show Spoiler +
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 74.93% 49.80% 25.13% 17.23% 7.84%
Mvp 46.34% 22.12% 24.23% 26.55% 27.11%
SaSe 37.99% 15.53% 22.45% 30.45% 31.56%
Nerchio 40.74% 12.55% 28.19% 25.77% 33.49%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Weird because SaSe has 38% and Nerchio 41%.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
May 16 2013 16:32 GMT
#244
Those pictures make nerchio and lucifron look identical
Liquid | SKT
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 16:32:57
May 16 2013 16:32 GMT
#245
On May 17 2013 01:31 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:28 sibs wrote:
Aligulac's prediction!
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 63.97% 34.87% 29.10% 19.86% 16.17%
Nerchio 51.99% 25.87% 26.12% 24.56% 23.45%
Mvp 46.18% 22.33% 23.85% 26.52% 27.30%
SaSe 37.86% 16.93% 20.93% 29.06% 33.08%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Nechio losing game 1 actually drops Nerchio to 4th in the prediction and moves Mvp and Sase up to 2nd and 3rd
+ Show Spoiler +
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 74.93% 49.80% 25.13% 17.23% 7.84%
Mvp 46.34% 22.12% 24.23% 26.55% 27.11%
SaSe 37.99% 15.53% 22.45% 30.45% 31.56%
Nerchio 40.74% 12.55% 28.19% 25.77% 33.49%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

That's... weird. You'd think it wouldn't affect it much since the median outcome would be Lucifron beating him anyway.

It's actually sorted by chance of 1st place so he's actually 3rd most likely to get top 2 still
On May 17 2013 01:32 Zyzz12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:28 sibs wrote:
Aligulac's prediction!
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 63.97% 34.87% 29.10% 19.86% 16.17%
Nerchio 51.99% 25.87% 26.12% 24.56% 23.45%
Mvp 46.18% 22.33% 23.85% 26.52% 27.30%
SaSe 37.86% 16.93% 20.93% 29.06% 33.08%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Nechio losing game 1 actually drops Nerchio to 4th in the prediction and moves Mvp and Sase up to 2nd and 3rd
+ Show Spoiler +
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 74.93% 49.80% 25.13% 17.23% 7.84%
Mvp 46.34% 22.12% 24.23% 26.55% 27.11%
SaSe 37.99% 15.53% 22.45% 30.45% 31.56%
Nerchio 40.74% 12.55% 28.19% 25.77% 33.49%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Weird because SaSe has 38% and Nerchio 41%.

yeah I forgot it's sorted by % to get 1st
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Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
May 16 2013 16:32 GMT
#246
On May 17 2013 01:24 ROOTKane wrote:
and then opening up infestors instead of mutas.... wtf!!!

Isnt that standard foreign zergs? Koreans always go for mutas and foreigners go for infestors?
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
May 16 2013 16:33 GMT
#247
Best audience ever
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12612 Posts
May 16 2013 16:33 GMT
#248
On May 17 2013 01:29 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:28 Heartland wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:27 Benjamin99 wrote:
Ok I understand Nerchio´s tactic he was basically trying to eco cheese lucifron. He just wanted 70 drones and go as fast as possible to hive to get ultralisk but lucifron saw Nerchio had no lings and went in with his helions.



Eco-cheese is such a horrible term


Yeah, I think "greed" is the more commonly used one. Nerchio was trying to play greedy, and Lucifron punished him.


Very few words in the history of english have lost their original meaning as fast as "greedy" on these forums.
No will to live, no wish to die
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
May 16 2013 16:33 GMT
#249
On May 17 2013 01:32 Zyzz12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:28 sibs wrote:
Aligulac's prediction!
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 63.97% 34.87% 29.10% 19.86% 16.17%
Nerchio 51.99% 25.87% 26.12% 24.56% 23.45%
Mvp 46.18% 22.33% 23.85% 26.52% 27.30%
SaSe 37.86% 16.93% 20.93% 29.06% 33.08%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Nechio losing game 1 actually drops Nerchio to 4th in the prediction and moves Mvp and Sase up to 2nd and 3rd
+ Show Spoiler +
                  Top 2      1st      2nd      3rd      4th    
---------------------------------------------------------------
LucifroN 74.93% 49.80% 25.13% 17.23% 7.84%
Mvp 46.34% 22.12% 24.23% 26.55% 27.11%
SaSe 37.99% 15.53% 22.45% 30.45% 31.56%
Nerchio 40.74% 12.55% 28.19% 25.77% 33.49%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.


Weird because SaSe has 38% and Nerchio 41%.


At first i thought it was because SaSe's Second place was higher than nerchio but that isnt the case lol
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
May 16 2013 16:33 GMT
#250
On May 17 2013 01:33 Vorenius wrote:
Best audience ever

LU
CI
FRON
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
May 16 2013 16:33 GMT
#251
On May 17 2013 01:32 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:24 ROOTKane wrote:
and then opening up infestors instead of mutas.... wtf!!!

Isnt that standard foreign zergs? Koreans always go for mutas and foreigners go for infestors?


Nahh many zergs in EU go mutas. It really come downs to the players
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
May 16 2013 16:33 GMT
#252
On May 17 2013 01:33 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:29 DJHelium wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:28 Heartland wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:27 Benjamin99 wrote:
Ok I understand Nerchio´s tactic he was basically trying to eco cheese lucifron. He just wanted 70 drones and go as fast as possible to hive to get ultralisk but lucifron saw Nerchio had no lings and went in with his helions.



Eco-cheese is such a horrible term


Yeah, I think "greed" is the more commonly used one. Nerchio was trying to play greedy, and Lucifron punished him.


Very few words in the history of english have lost their original meaning as fast as "greedy" on these forums.

rage
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 16 2013 16:34 GMT
#253
On May 17 2013 01:33 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:33 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:29 DJHelium wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:28 Heartland wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:27 Benjamin99 wrote:
Ok I understand Nerchio´s tactic he was basically trying to eco cheese lucifron. He just wanted 70 drones and go as fast as possible to hive to get ultralisk but lucifron saw Nerchio had no lings and went in with his helions.



Eco-cheese is such a horrible term


Yeah, I think "greed" is the more commonly used one. Nerchio was trying to play greedy, and Lucifron punished him.


Very few words in the history of english have lost their original meaning as fast as "greedy" on these forums.

rage


handshake
Terran & Potato Salad.
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
May 16 2013 16:35 GMT
#254
On May 17 2013 01:33 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:33 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:29 DJHelium wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:28 Heartland wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:27 Benjamin99 wrote:
Ok I understand Nerchio´s tactic he was basically trying to eco cheese lucifron. He just wanted 70 drones and go as fast as possible to hive to get ultralisk but lucifron saw Nerchio had no lings and went in with his helions.



Eco-cheese is such a horrible term


Yeah, I think "greed" is the more commonly used one. Nerchio was trying to play greedy, and Lucifron punished him.


Very few words in the history of english have lost their original meaning as fast as "greedy" on these forums.

rage

Awkward.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
May 16 2013 16:35 GMT
#255
On May 17 2013 01:31 Topdoller wrote:
Time to mute the stream. Listening to the casters making excuses for Nechio is a sad experience



Excuses?? All I hear this them trashing Nerchio :p
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
May 16 2013 16:35 GMT
#256
looks like lucifrons dont knows his timings and missing the overlord snipe
-,-
freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
May 16 2013 16:35 GMT
#257
lol apollo calling nerchio a patchzerg :p
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 16 2013 16:35 GMT
#258
On May 17 2013 01:33 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:33 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:29 DJHelium wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:28 Heartland wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:27 Benjamin99 wrote:
Ok I understand Nerchio´s tactic he was basically trying to eco cheese lucifron. He just wanted 70 drones and go as fast as possible to hive to get ultralisk but lucifron saw Nerchio had no lings and went in with his helions.



Eco-cheese is such a horrible term


Yeah, I think "greed" is the more commonly used one. Nerchio was trying to play greedy, and Lucifron punished him.


Very few words in the history of english have lost their original meaning as fast as "greedy" on these forums.

rage


I'm thinking "literally", but that might be awkward of me.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
May 16 2013 16:35 GMT
#259
On May 17 2013 01:35 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:33 Vorenius wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:33 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:29 DJHelium wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:28 Heartland wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:27 Benjamin99 wrote:
Ok I understand Nerchio´s tactic he was basically trying to eco cheese lucifron. He just wanted 70 drones and go as fast as possible to hive to get ultralisk but lucifron saw Nerchio had no lings and went in with his helions.



Eco-cheese is such a horrible term


Yeah, I think "greed" is the more commonly used one. Nerchio was trying to play greedy, and Lucifron punished him.


Very few words in the history of english have lost their original meaning as fast as "greedy" on these forums.

rage


I'm thinking "literally", but that might be awkward of me.


Literally awkward
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
May 16 2013 16:36 GMT
#260
On May 17 2013 01:35 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2013 01:33 Vorenius wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:33 Nebuchad wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:29 DJHelium wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:28 Heartland wrote:
On May 17 2013 01:27 Benjamin99 wrote:
Ok I understand Nerchio´s tactic he was basically trying to eco cheese lucifron. He just wanted 70 drones and go as fast as possible to hive to get ultralisk but lucifron saw Nerchio had no lings and went in with his helions.



Eco-cheese is such a horrible term


Yeah, I think "greed" is the more commonly used one. Nerchio was trying to play greedy, and Lucifron punished him.


Very few words in the history of english have lost their original meaning as fast as "greedy" on these forums.

rage

Awkward.


All-in.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
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