lol I almost bit at retarded nationalistic crap (don't know theognis so he could be from my perspective:p) then realized he's playing against JD, good one
Sorry for the lack of LR for the guy that asked for it. the wireless internet in my dorm just went down and I recently moved here for the summer semester so I had to go find my ethernet cable D:
0:00 theognis spawns in the bottom left Jaedong spawns in the top right
1-13 Jaedong going roach hydra Theognis going bio both players on 3 bases 111 suppy for T vs 114 for z Jaedong researching +2 attack and 1 armor. theognis finishing 1-1
13:00 tanks on the way for theognis armory for theognis 4th base for Jeadong hydra speed for jaedong combat shields for theognis 2nd factory for theognis 2 more rax for theognis
14:00 drop in the main of Jaedong 2-2 started for theognis infestation pit for Jaedong Jaedong cleans up the drop +1 vehicle weapons for theognis
15:00 4th CC for theognis drop at the main of Jaedong is deflected +2 carapace for Jaedong Hive for Jaedong hydra force moving intot he 3rd of theognis concussive shells for theognis tanks and bio reposition to push back Jaedong's attack at the 3rd
On May 14 2013 07:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: Sorry for the lack of LR for the guy that asked for it. the wireless internet in my dorm just went down and I recently moved here for the summer semester so I had to go find my ethernet cable D:
0:00 theognis spawns in the bottom left Jaedong spawns in the top right
1-13 Jaedong going roach hydra Theognis going bio both players on 3 bases 111 suppy for T vs 114 for z Jaedong researching +2 attack and 1 armor. theognis finishing 1-1
13:00 tanks on the way for theognis armory for theognis 4th base for Jeadong hydra speed for jaedong combat shields for theognis 2nd factory for theognis 2 more rax for theognis
14:00 drop in the main of Jaedong 2-2 started for theognis infestation pit for Jaedong Jaedong cleans up the drop +1 vehicle weapons for theognis
15:00 4th CC for theognis drop at the main of Jaedong is deflected +2 carapace for Jaedong Hive for Jaedong hydra force moving intot he 3rd of theognis concussive shells for theognis tanks and bio reposition to push back Jaedong's attack at the 3rd
16:00 drop at the 3rd of Jaedong is defended easily theognis starts floating out his 4th base theognis pushes the army of Jaedong back across the map +3 attack started for theognis
17:00 +3 range attack started for Jaedong Vipers started for Jaedong PF morphing at the 4th of theognis Jaedong making extra evos to drain life +3 armor for theognis
18:00 armies engage briefly at the top of the map but jaedong backs off because his is too small adrenal glands for jaedong pathogen glands for jaedong theognis cleaning up creep tanks move forward theognis pushing towards the 4th of Jaedong blinding cloud all over the bio and theognis retreats
19:00 ultralisk cavern finishes for Jaedong 5th base for Jaedong theognis trying to push into the 4th base again vipers trying to regain energy Jaedong is able to push back the forces of theognis Jaedong is 20 supply ahead 5th CC on the way for theognis Jaedong adding in lings to his army Jaedong counterattacking at the 4th of theognis
20:00 theognis loses some tanks he left behind on Jaedong's side of the map blinding cloud ont he tanks and bio of theognis at his 4th theognis is able to hold on and push Jaedong back 4 more rax for theognis chitinous plating for Jaedong +1 melee for Jaedong
On May 14 2013 07:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: Sorry for the lack of LR for the guy that asked for it. the wireless internet in my dorm just went down and I recently moved here for the summer semester so I had to go find my ethernet cable D:
0:00 theognis spawns in the bottom left Jaedong spawns in the top right
1-13 Jaedong going roach hydra Theognis going bio both players on 3 bases 111 suppy for T vs 114 for z Jaedong researching +2 attack and 1 armor. theognis finishing 1-1
13:00 tanks on the way for theognis armory for theognis 4th base for Jeadong hydra speed for jaedong combat shields for theognis 2nd factory for theognis 2 more rax for theognis
14:00 drop in the main of Jaedong 2-2 started for theognis infestation pit for Jaedong Jaedong cleans up the drop +1 vehicle weapons for theognis
15:00 4th CC for theognis drop at the main of Jaedong is deflected +2 carapace for Jaedong Hive for Jaedong hydra force moving intot he 3rd of theognis concussive shells for theognis tanks and bio reposition to push back Jaedong's attack at the 3rd
16:00 drop at the 3rd of Jaedong is defended easily theognis starts floating out his 4th base theognis pushes the army of Jaedong back across the map +3 attack started for theognis
17:00 +3 range attack started for Jaedong Vipers started for Jaedong PF morphing at the 4th of theognis Jaedong making extra evos to drain life +3 armor for theognis
18:00 armies engage briefly at the top of the map but jaedong backs off because his is too small adrenal glands for jaedong pathogen glands for jaedong theognis cleaning up creep tanks move forward theognis pushing towards the 4th of Jaedong blinding cloud all over the bio and theognis retreats
19:00 ultralisk cavern finishes for Jaedong 5th base for Jaedong theognis trying to push into the 4th base again vipers trying to regain energy Jaedong is able to push back the forces of theognis Jaedong is 20 supply ahead 5th CC on the way for theognis Jaedong adding in lings to his army Jaedong counterattacking at the 4th of theognis
20:00 theognis loses some tanks he left behind on Jaedong's side of the map blinding cloud ont he tanks and bio of theognis at his 4th theognis is able to hold on and push Jaedong back 4 more rax for theognis chitinous plating for Jaedong +1 melee for Jaedong
21:00 +3 carapace for Jaedong Jaedong abducts a few medivacs to kill theognis is 10 supply ahead theognis starts pushing through the center of the map with 2 tanks and a bunch of bio
22:00 blinding cloud on the army of theognis theognis pushing forward theognis 20 supply ahead infestors on the way for Jaedong theognis pushing the army of Jaedong further back theognis kills the 4th base of Jaedong ultras started for Jaedong PF morphing at theognis's 5th
23:00 theognis is 50 supply ahead theognis pushing towards the natural of jaedong breaking the ramp rocks fungal on part of the army of theognis jaedong doesnt have enough Jaedong loses his whole army Jaedong ggs! theognis wins game 1!
On May 14 2013 07:11 Tsubbi wrote: jd playing at 6 am lol
so in europe its lag and in us its the time ? 6am playing is fine, i wake up weekends normaly 5:30 and start playing sc2 ... whats wrong with getting up early ? 6am is TOTALY fine ...
That was a nice game from Theognis, but really not a lot of multitasking from either side. Jaedong did a great job shutting down drop play, but after that is was just army vs. army, no runbys, drops, etc. If Jaedong wants to win these games he needs to test Theognis's multitask, since JD should be able to outplay him in that respect.
On May 14 2013 07:24 Scootaloo wrote: Looks like the guy in charge of the overlay noticed.
lol ya oh well ><
Why is Jaedong playing so badly? He's being overly aggressive and no banelings?????
-Latency -Late hours -Tummy ache
Pretty sure none of those make players go viper vs pure bio w/ 3-4 tanks
latency us/kr is fine for a top pro no problem ... seen often enough in the past late hours ? isnt it super early hours ? like 6am ? thats totaly fine to play ... if not he wouldnt play and i had koreans play at 3am in my clan and they had never problems damn they are nerds 6am is evening ... so many stupid reasons why cant people say "wow this guy played so nice vs the korean" NO its always "oh the korean plays so bad vs this guy" i hate this attitute
i dont know if i like the EU/US version of "even if you lose 1st round you come to up and down when THERE you can drop down" ... its so like no korean ever will drop out.
On May 14 2013 07:38 CoR wrote: i dont know if i like the EU/US version of "even if you lose 1st round you come to up and down when THERE you can drop down" ... its so like no korean ever will drop out.
It's weird they don't just do it like GSL, especially when the tournament has lots of players directly seeded in. It would be good to have some actual turnover so new players can get in.
So how exactly are the players for the next Premiere season determined? Top 8 from previous Premier and the 8 winners from the Challenger. And the other 16 slots? Someone got a link where it's explained?
0:00 theognis spawns in the top left Jaedong spawns in the bottom right
2:00 hatch first from Jaedong CC first on the low ground for theognis drone scout harassing the building scv of theognis rax for theognis
3:00 3rd base for Jaedong before pool theognis scouts the 3rd of Jaedong gas for theognis pool for Jaedong
4:00 Factory for theognis gas for Jaedong bunker in the natural for theognis
5:00 reactor for theognis 3rd CC for theognis
6:00 ling speed for Jaedong reactored hellion production started for theognis tech lab on rax for theognis marauder production started for theognis stim research for theognis 2nd gas for Jaedong
7:00 2 more rax for theognis 2 hellions killing a few drones at Jaedong's 3rd 1 hellion falls but 9 drones were killed another gas for theognis double evo for Jaedong double ebay for theognis
8:00 hellions killing a few more lings in the middle of the map theognis breaking down the rocks to his 3rd 1-1 ling upgrades started for Jaedong 1-1 started for theognis lair for Jaedong
9:00 ling runby into the natural of theognis theognis is able to clean up most of the lings a few more lings run in and take out a hellion at theognis' 3rd
10:00 spire for jaedong banelin gnest for Jaedong double medivac production started for theognis Jaedong just rallying more lings in combat shields for theognis macro hatch for jaedong theognis finally takes down the rock pillar at his 3rd to deny lings baneling speed for Jaedong
0:00 theognis spawns in the top left Jaedong spawns in the bottom right
2:00 hatch first from Jaedong CC first on the low ground for theognis drone scout harassing the building scv of theognis rax for theognis
3:00 3rd base for Jaedong before pool theognis scouts the 3rd of Jaedong gas for theognis pool for Jaedong
4:00 Factory for theognis gas for Jaedong bunker in the natural for theognis
5:00 reactor for theognis 3rd CC for theognis
6:00 ling speed for Jaedong reactored hellion production started for theognis tech lab on rax for theognis marauder production started for theognis stim research for theognis 2nd gas for Jaedong
7:00 2 more rax for theognis 2 hellions killing a few drones at Jaedong's 3rd 1 hellion falls but 9 drones were killed another gas for theognis double evo for Jaedong double ebay for theognis
8:00 hellions killing a few more lings in the middle of the map theognis breaking down the rocks to his 3rd 1-1 ling upgrades started for Jaedong 1-1 started for theognis lair for Jaedong
9:00 ling runby into the natural of theognis theognis is able to clean up most of the lings a few more lings run in and take out a hellion at theognis' 3rd
10:00 spire for jaedong banelin gnest for Jaedong double medivac production started for theognis Jaedong just rallying more lings in combat shields for theognis macro hatch for jaedong theognis finally takes down the rock pillar at his 3rd to deny lings baneling speed for Jaedong
11:00 4th base for jaedong 2 more factories for theognis armory for theognis 2-2 started for Jaedong Jaedong tries to put on some more ling pressure +1 flier attack for jaedong mutas started for Jaedong
12:00 2-2 started for theognis +1 vehicle armor started for theognis hellbat production started for theognis missile turrets started for theognis infestation pit for Jaedong drilling claws for theognis
13:00 mutas fly to the 3rd of theognis but dont go in after seeing turrets burrow research started for jaedong overlord speed for Jaedong 3 more rax for theognis triple widow mine production for theognis pathogen glands for Jaedong spores and spines going up for Jaedong at home
14:00 widow mines get 2 volleys off on the mutas of Jaedong Hive started for Jaedong theognis 10 supply ahead Jaedong morphing 30 banelings in the middle of the map theognis starting to clean up creep some banelings hit marines
15:00 theognis splitting against the banes of Jaedong but takes some hits 3-3 started for theognis overseers meet up with the army of Jaedong more creep being cleaned up 4th base for theognis
On May 14 2013 07:45 Champloo wrote: So how exactly are the players for the next Premiere season determined? Top 8 from previous Premier and the 8 winners from the Challenger. And the other 16 slots? Someone got a link where it's explained?
The other 16 come from the equivalent of GSL's "Up and Downs". The 32 players from Challenger who didn't make it all the way through do 8 groups of 4, where the top 2 in the group go up to Premiere (16 spots), the third place person is in Challenger again the next season, and the fourth place person falls out entirely.
0:00 theognis spawns in the top left Jaedong spawns in the bottom right
2:00 hatch first from Jaedong CC first on the low ground for theognis drone scout harassing the building scv of theognis rax for theognis
3:00 3rd base for Jaedong before pool theognis scouts the 3rd of Jaedong gas for theognis pool for Jaedong
4:00 Factory for theognis gas for Jaedong bunker in the natural for theognis
5:00 reactor for theognis 3rd CC for theognis
6:00 ling speed for Jaedong reactored hellion production started for theognis tech lab on rax for theognis marauder production started for theognis stim research for theognis 2nd gas for Jaedong
7:00 2 more rax for theognis 2 hellions killing a few drones at Jaedong's 3rd 1 hellion falls but 9 drones were killed another gas for theognis double evo for Jaedong double ebay for theognis
8:00 hellions killing a few more lings in the middle of the map theognis breaking down the rocks to his 3rd 1-1 ling upgrades started for Jaedong 1-1 started for theognis lair for Jaedong
9:00 ling runby into the natural of theognis theognis is able to clean up most of the lings a few more lings run in and take out a hellion at theognis' 3rd
10:00 spire for jaedong banelin gnest for Jaedong double medivac production started for theognis Jaedong just rallying more lings in combat shields for theognis macro hatch for jaedong theognis finally takes down the rock pillar at his 3rd to deny lings baneling speed for Jaedong
11:00 4th base for jaedong 2 more factories for theognis armory for theognis 2-2 started for Jaedong Jaedong tries to put on some more ling pressure +1 flier attack for jaedong mutas started for Jaedong
12:00 2-2 started for theognis +1 vehicle armor started for theognis hellbat production started for theognis missile turrets started for theognis infestation pit for Jaedong drilling claws for theognis
13:00 mutas fly to the 3rd of theognis but dont go in after seeing turrets burrow research started for jaedong overlord speed for Jaedong 3 more rax for theognis triple widow mine production for theognis pathogen glands for Jaedong spores and spines going up for Jaedong at home
14:00 widow mines get 2 volleys off on the mutas of Jaedong Hive started for Jaedong theognis 10 supply ahead Jaedong morphing 30 banelings in the middle of the map theognis starting to clean up creep some banelings hit marines
15:00 theognis splitting against the banes of Jaedong but takes some hits 3-3 started for theognis overseers meet up with the army of Jaedong more creep being cleaned up 4th base for theognis
16:00 Jaedong sends a flank to fight some reinforcements 3-3 started for Jaedong adrenal glands for Jaedong ultralisk cavern for Jaedong theognis trying to clean up more creep 5th CC started for theognis
17:00 ling bane muta counter attack from Jaedong is denied and Jaedong backs off +2 vehicle armor for theognis Jaedong counterattacks as theognis moves out again theognis tries to run home
18:00 theognis changes his mind and goes for the attack chitinous plating for jaedong banelings hitting the 3rd of theognis main army of theognis is cleaned up by banelings Jaedong takes a 30 supply lead lings are finally cleaned up at theognis' 3rd ultras started for Jaedong
19:00 Jaedong goes for another attack but widow mines make him back off PF finishes at theognis' 4th 8 ultras coming out for Jaedong
20:00 5th base started for Jaedong Greater spire for Jaedong 2 more CC for theognis theognis pushing across the map theognis breaking down the rocks to Jaedong's 4th drop at the 5th of Jaedong is cleaned up ultras deny the army of theognis from enterying the 4th ultras chase theognis back across the map
Theognis should have stayed off creep and gone for the third of JD. Still, pretty impressive play. Foreign terrans are much better at using hellbats than their SK equivalents.
On May 14 2013 07:53 m0ck wrote: Theognis should have stayed off creep and gone for the third of JD. Still, pretty impressive play. Foreign terrans are much better at using hellbats than their SK equivalents.
0:00 theognis spawns in the top left Jaedong spawns in the bottom right
2:00 hatch first from Jaedong CC first on the low ground for theognis drone scout harassing the building scv of theognis rax for theognis
3:00 3rd base for Jaedong before pool theognis scouts the 3rd of Jaedong gas for theognis pool for Jaedong
4:00 Factory for theognis gas for Jaedong bunker in the natural for theognis
5:00 reactor for theognis 3rd CC for theognis
6:00 ling speed for Jaedong reactored hellion production started for theognis tech lab on rax for theognis marauder production started for theognis stim research for theognis 2nd gas for Jaedong
7:00 2 more rax for theognis 2 hellions killing a few drones at Jaedong's 3rd 1 hellion falls but 9 drones were killed another gas for theognis double evo for Jaedong double ebay for theognis
8:00 hellions killing a few more lings in the middle of the map theognis breaking down the rocks to his 3rd 1-1 ling upgrades started for Jaedong 1-1 started for theognis lair for Jaedong
9:00 ling runby into the natural of theognis theognis is able to clean up most of the lings a few more lings run in and take out a hellion at theognis' 3rd
10:00 spire for jaedong banelin gnest for Jaedong double medivac production started for theognis Jaedong just rallying more lings in combat shields for theognis macro hatch for jaedong theognis finally takes down the rock pillar at his 3rd to deny lings baneling speed for Jaedong
11:00 4th base for jaedong 2 more factories for theognis armory for theognis 2-2 started for Jaedong Jaedong tries to put on some more ling pressure +1 flier attack for jaedong mutas started for Jaedong
12:00 2-2 started for theognis +1 vehicle armor started for theognis hellbat production started for theognis missile turrets started for theognis infestation pit for Jaedong drilling claws for theognis
13:00 mutas fly to the 3rd of theognis but dont go in after seeing turrets burrow research started for jaedong overlord speed for Jaedong 3 more rax for theognis triple widow mine production for theognis pathogen glands for Jaedong spores and spines going up for Jaedong at home
14:00 widow mines get 2 volleys off on the mutas of Jaedong Hive started for Jaedong theognis 10 supply ahead Jaedong morphing 30 banelings in the middle of the map theognis starting to clean up creep some banelings hit marines
15:00 theognis splitting against the banes of Jaedong but takes some hits 3-3 started for theognis overseers meet up with the army of Jaedong more creep being cleaned up 4th base for theognis
16:00 Jaedong sends a flank to fight some reinforcements 3-3 started for Jaedong adrenal glands for Jaedong ultralisk cavern for Jaedong theognis trying to clean up more creep 5th CC started for theognis
17:00 ling bane muta counter attack from Jaedong is denied and Jaedong backs off +2 vehicle armor for theognis Jaedong counterattacks as theognis moves out again theognis tries to run home
18:00 theognis changes his mind and goes for the attack chitinous plating for jaedong banelings hitting the 3rd of theognis main army of theognis is cleaned up by banelings Jaedong takes a 30 supply lead lings are finally cleaned up at theognis' 3rd ultras started for Jaedong
19:00 Jaedong goes for another attack but widow mines make him back off PF finishes at theognis' 4th 8 ultras coming out for Jaedong
20:00 5th base started for Jaedong Greater spire for Jaedong 2 more CC for theognis theognis pushing across the map theognis breaking down the rocks to Jaedong's 4th drop at the 5th of Jaedong is cleaned up ultras deny the army of theognis from enterying the 4th ultras chase theognis back across the map
21:00 drop in the main of Jaedong kills the ultralisk cavern ultra cavern restarted for Jaedong Jaedong cleans up the drop in his main corruptors started for Jaedong theognis goes for another push at Jaedong's 4th but ultras and spines are there to defend infestors coming out for Jaedong
22:00 2 more CC for theognis theognis lands his 5th base in the bottom left brood lords started for Jaedong Jaedong transfusing his ultras
23:00 theognis targets down the 4th of Jaedong right before the brood lords finish double drop at the 5th of Jaedong 5th of Jaedong is killed 2 starports on the way for theognis drop at the 3rd of Jaedong brood lords clean up the widow mines of theognis
24:00 theognis cleaning up creep on the top of the map drop in the natural of Jaedong is cleaned up drop in the 3rd of Jaedong kills a macro hatch theognis tries to target down the other hatch at the 3rd but is stopped
25:00 vikings and thors started for theognis 4th base restarted for Jaedong 5th base started in the bottom center for Jaedong drop at the 5th of Jaedong another bio force runs in and kills a few high energy queens of Jaedong
On May 14 2013 07:53 m0ck wrote: Theognis should have stayed off creep and gone for the third of JD. Still, pretty impressive play. Foreign terrans are much better at using hellbats than their SK equivalents.
Supernova and Flash are great at using Hellbats.
I've mainly seen them in TvT from Flash (and certainly mainly in mech-compositions), and I don't recall seeing SN play, but I definitely haven't seen them used as heavily together with the bio to completely neuter the ling-bling phase of Z.
0:00 theognis spawns in the top left Jaedong spawns in the bottom right
2:00 hatch first from Jaedong CC first on the low ground for theognis drone scout harassing the building scv of theognis rax for theognis
3:00 3rd base for Jaedong before pool theognis scouts the 3rd of Jaedong gas for theognis pool for Jaedong
4:00 Factory for theognis gas for Jaedong bunker in the natural for theognis
5:00 reactor for theognis 3rd CC for theognis
6:00 ling speed for Jaedong reactored hellion production started for theognis tech lab on rax for theognis marauder production started for theognis stim research for theognis 2nd gas for Jaedong
7:00 2 more rax for theognis 2 hellions killing a few drones at Jaedong's 3rd 1 hellion falls but 9 drones were killed another gas for theognis double evo for Jaedong double ebay for theognis
8:00 hellions killing a few more lings in the middle of the map theognis breaking down the rocks to his 3rd 1-1 ling upgrades started for Jaedong 1-1 started for theognis lair for Jaedong
9:00 ling runby into the natural of theognis theognis is able to clean up most of the lings a few more lings run in and take out a hellion at theognis' 3rd
10:00 spire for jaedong banelin gnest for Jaedong double medivac production started for theognis Jaedong just rallying more lings in combat shields for theognis macro hatch for jaedong theognis finally takes down the rock pillar at his 3rd to deny lings baneling speed for Jaedong
11:00 4th base for jaedong 2 more factories for theognis armory for theognis 2-2 started for Jaedong Jaedong tries to put on some more ling pressure +1 flier attack for jaedong mutas started for Jaedong
12:00 2-2 started for theognis +1 vehicle armor started for theognis hellbat production started for theognis missile turrets started for theognis infestation pit for Jaedong drilling claws for theognis
13:00 mutas fly to the 3rd of theognis but dont go in after seeing turrets burrow research started for jaedong overlord speed for Jaedong 3 more rax for theognis triple widow mine production for theognis pathogen glands for Jaedong spores and spines going up for Jaedong at home
14:00 widow mines get 2 volleys off on the mutas of Jaedong Hive started for Jaedong theognis 10 supply ahead Jaedong morphing 30 banelings in the middle of the map theognis starting to clean up creep some banelings hit marines
15:00 theognis splitting against the banes of Jaedong but takes some hits 3-3 started for theognis overseers meet up with the army of Jaedong more creep being cleaned up 4th base for theognis
16:00 Jaedong sends a flank to fight some reinforcements 3-3 started for Jaedong adrenal glands for Jaedong ultralisk cavern for Jaedong theognis trying to clean up more creep 5th CC started for theognis
17:00 ling bane muta counter attack from Jaedong is denied and Jaedong backs off +2 vehicle armor for theognis Jaedong counterattacks as theognis moves out again theognis tries to run home
18:00 theognis changes his mind and goes for the attack chitinous plating for jaedong banelings hitting the 3rd of theognis main army of theognis is cleaned up by banelings Jaedong takes a 30 supply lead lings are finally cleaned up at theognis' 3rd ultras started for Jaedong
19:00 Jaedong goes for another attack but widow mines make him back off PF finishes at theognis' 4th 8 ultras coming out for Jaedong
20:00 5th base started for Jaedong Greater spire for Jaedong 2 more CC for theognis theognis pushing across the map theognis breaking down the rocks to Jaedong's 4th drop at the 5th of Jaedong is cleaned up ultras deny the army of theognis from enterying the 4th ultras chase theognis back across the map
21:00 drop in the main of Jaedong kills the ultralisk cavern ultra cavern restarted for Jaedong Jaedong cleans up the drop in his main corruptors started for Jaedong theognis goes for another push at Jaedong's 4th but ultras and spines are there to defend infestors coming out for Jaedong
22:00 2 more CC for theognis theognis lands his 5th base in the bottom left brood lords started for Jaedong Jaedong transfusing his ultras
23:00 theognis targets down the 4th of Jaedong right before the brood lords finish double drop at the 5th of Jaedong 5th of Jaedong is killed 2 starports on the way for theognis drop at the 3rd of Jaedong brood lords clean up the widow mines of theognis
24:00 theognis cleaning up creep on the top of the map drop in the natural of Jaedong is cleaned up drop in the 3rd of Jaedong kills a macro hatch theognis tries to target down the other hatch at the 3rd but is stopped
25:00 vikings and thors started for theognis 4th base restarted for Jaedong 5th base started in the bottom center for Jaedong drop at the 5th of Jaedong another bio force runs in and kills a few high energy queens of Jaedong
26:00 drop at the 4th of Jaedong is forced to lift drop in the main of Jaedong Jaedong sieging up the 5th of theognis with his brood lords spawning pool of Jaedong is targeted down
27:00 vikings fly in and start hitting brood lords fungals on the vikings IT thrown out Jaedong cleans up the vikings both players at 170 supply spawning pool on the way for Jaedong infestors are being killed by the bio of theognis
28:00 ultras turn around the fight the bio brood lords are cleaned up by vikings ultras trying to counter attack the natural but take big hits from widow mines theognis is 30 supply ahead 5th of theognis was killed both players mining off 1 base
29:00 Jaedong adding in more infestors theognis making bio and mines drop at the 3rd of Jaedong targets down the 3rd even through 3 transfuses at the last second 10 infestors on the way for Jaedong theognis lands a new 5th base
30:00 mass mules dropped at the new base changelings scout the new base of theognis 5th base restarted for Jaedong in the top right burrowed infesotrs move into the 5th of theognis
0:00 theognis spawns in the top left Jaedong spawns in the bottom right
2:00 hatch first from Jaedong CC first on the low ground for theognis drone scout harassing the building scv of theognis rax for theognis
3:00 3rd base for Jaedong before pool theognis scouts the 3rd of Jaedong gas for theognis pool for Jaedong
4:00 Factory for theognis gas for Jaedong bunker in the natural for theognis
5:00 reactor for theognis 3rd CC for theognis
6:00 ling speed for Jaedong reactored hellion production started for theognis tech lab on rax for theognis marauder production started for theognis stim research for theognis 2nd gas for Jaedong
7:00 2 more rax for theognis 2 hellions killing a few drones at Jaedong's 3rd 1 hellion falls but 9 drones were killed another gas for theognis double evo for Jaedong double ebay for theognis
8:00 hellions killing a few more lings in the middle of the map theognis breaking down the rocks to his 3rd 1-1 ling upgrades started for Jaedong 1-1 started for theognis lair for Jaedong
9:00 ling runby into the natural of theognis theognis is able to clean up most of the lings a few more lings run in and take out a hellion at theognis' 3rd
10:00 spire for jaedong banelin gnest for Jaedong double medivac production started for theognis Jaedong just rallying more lings in combat shields for theognis macro hatch for jaedong theognis finally takes down the rock pillar at his 3rd to deny lings baneling speed for Jaedong
11:00 4th base for jaedong 2 more factories for theognis armory for theognis 2-2 started for Jaedong Jaedong tries to put on some more ling pressure +1 flier attack for jaedong mutas started for Jaedong
12:00 2-2 started for theognis +1 vehicle armor started for theognis hellbat production started for theognis missile turrets started for theognis infestation pit for Jaedong drilling claws for theognis
13:00 mutas fly to the 3rd of theognis but dont go in after seeing turrets burrow research started for jaedong overlord speed for Jaedong 3 more rax for theognis triple widow mine production for theognis pathogen glands for Jaedong spores and spines going up for Jaedong at home
14:00 widow mines get 2 volleys off on the mutas of Jaedong Hive started for Jaedong theognis 10 supply ahead Jaedong morphing 30 banelings in the middle of the map theognis starting to clean up creep some banelings hit marines
15:00 theognis splitting against the banes of Jaedong but takes some hits 3-3 started for theognis overseers meet up with the army of Jaedong more creep being cleaned up 4th base for theognis
16:00 Jaedong sends a flank to fight some reinforcements 3-3 started for Jaedong adrenal glands for Jaedong ultralisk cavern for Jaedong theognis trying to clean up more creep 5th CC started for theognis
17:00 ling bane muta counter attack from Jaedong is denied and Jaedong backs off +2 vehicle armor for theognis Jaedong counterattacks as theognis moves out again theognis tries to run home
18:00 theognis changes his mind and goes for the attack chitinous plating for jaedong banelings hitting the 3rd of theognis main army of theognis is cleaned up by banelings Jaedong takes a 30 supply lead lings are finally cleaned up at theognis' 3rd ultras started for Jaedong
19:00 Jaedong goes for another attack but widow mines make him back off PF finishes at theognis' 4th 8 ultras coming out for Jaedong
20:00 5th base started for Jaedong Greater spire for Jaedong 2 more CC for theognis theognis pushing across the map theognis breaking down the rocks to Jaedong's 4th drop at the 5th of Jaedong is cleaned up ultras deny the army of theognis from enterying the 4th ultras chase theognis back across the map
21:00 drop in the main of Jaedong kills the ultralisk cavern ultra cavern restarted for Jaedong Jaedong cleans up the drop in his main corruptors started for Jaedong theognis goes for another push at Jaedong's 4th but ultras and spines are there to defend infestors coming out for Jaedong
22:00 2 more CC for theognis theognis lands his 5th base in the bottom left brood lords started for Jaedong Jaedong transfusing his ultras
23:00 theognis targets down the 4th of Jaedong right before the brood lords finish double drop at the 5th of Jaedong 5th of Jaedong is killed 2 starports on the way for theognis drop at the 3rd of Jaedong brood lords clean up the widow mines of theognis
24:00 theognis cleaning up creep on the top of the map drop in the natural of Jaedong is cleaned up drop in the 3rd of Jaedong kills a macro hatch theognis tries to target down the other hatch at the 3rd but is stopped
25:00 vikings and thors started for theognis 4th base restarted for Jaedong 5th base started in the bottom center for Jaedong drop at the 5th of Jaedong another bio force runs in and kills a few high energy queens of Jaedong
26:00 drop at the 4th of Jaedong is forced to lift drop in the main of Jaedong Jaedong sieging up the 5th of theognis with his brood lords spawning pool of Jaedong is targeted down
27:00 vikings fly in and start hitting brood lords fungals on the vikings IT thrown out Jaedong cleans up the vikings both players at 170 supply spawning pool on the way for Jaedong infestors are being killed by the bio of theognis
28:00 ultras turn around the fight the bio brood lords are cleaned up by vikings ultras trying to counter attack the natural but take big hits from widow mines theognis is 30 supply ahead 5th of theognis was killed both players mining off 1 base
29:00 Jaedong adding in more infestors theognis making bio and mines drop at the 3rd of Jaedong targets down the 3rd even through 3 transfuses at the last second 10 infestors on the way for Jaedong theognis lands a new 5th base
30:00 mass mules dropped at the new base changelings scout the new base of theognis 5th base restarted for Jaedong in the top right burrowed infesotrs move into the 5th of theognis
31:00 drop at the 5th of Jaedong forces a cancel engagement in the middle of the map theognis pushes back the army of Jaedong for now Jaedong moves for another attack path theognis repositions at his 5th burrowed infestors pop up and fungal the army of theognis
32:00 widow mine fireworks Jaedong 60 supply down theognis dodges a fungal infestors are out of energy all the bio is cleaned up by ultras widow mines on cool down reinforcements arrive for theognis theognis repositions his widow mines theognis still 50 supply ahead 153-105
33:00 theognis chasing the retreating army of Jaedong the last ultra is killed theognis killing burrowed infestors Jaedong at half of theognis' supply theognis pushes into the 4th of Jaedong 3 more CC for theognis Jaedong ggs! theognis wins the series 2-0!
On May 14 2013 08:03 mango_destroyer wrote: jaedong in sc2 is so depressing to watch lol
this, not to take anything away from theognis' play though. I just don't understand why roach+hydras first game with no banes if he got late vipers then now, that ultras burrow and hesitation at this third causing him to lose it etc... I feel like he's worried about widow mines a lot lol so he's too cautious and allowed theognis to do what he wished
Jaedong's mechanics among the best, but SC2 just doesn't seem like it's clicking for him. It kind of makes me wonder what kind of player he'd have ended up being if he had stayed on T8.
On May 14 2013 08:02 Swords wrote: Seriously though, not using those 4 infestors to destroy Theognis's entire economy was really dumb by JD.
Theognis played so well though! Great games.
JD lost the game long before that.
No doubt, but in terms of making a comeback taking out the economy at that point would've been way more valuable than a good trade with the opponent's army.
So what do you get from winning the first game? I mean if you lose you get U&D and if you win you have to play another round where if you lose you get U&D. I guess I just don't see the point of the system. I mean obviously if you win the whole thing you get in code S but still it seems like theres no real reward for winning first round, and likewise no consequence for losing
On May 14 2013 08:04 Ribbon wrote: Congrats to Jaedong, the first Korean to get eliminated from WCS America.
Welcome to freedom, Jaedong.
He's not actually eliminated, right? Doesn't he end up in the WCS AM equivalent of Up & Downs because the system is kind of dumb?
Yeah, only the 4th place person in the Up & Downs actually drops entirely out in AM and EU right now. So only 8 new spots in Challenger available each Season. I can see how this is reasonable with the relatively thinner ranks of pros in AM and EU, but it certainly feels weird after being used to GSL...
BTW in the second game, when JD had Ultra,infestor, queen, army.. That was when Theognis started dropping like a madman. What could have JD done against that? His army was pretty immobile, so why not make tons of spines/spores? (I'm P, I genuinely don't know if I'm super wrong)
On May 14 2013 08:09 Yhamm wrote: the USA USA from axeltoss is a too much imo... what's this nationalism from commentators?
Honestly, I found it pretty underwhelming.
Even without the nationalism stance, an America Terran with almost no major results beating Jaedong 2-0 is a big deal. There seemed to be barely any excitement at the end of either of those games.
On May 14 2013 08:10 chipmonklord17 wrote: So what do you get from winning the first game? I mean if you lose you get U&D and if you win you have to play another round where if you lose you get U&D. I guess I just don't see the point of the system. I mean obviously if you win the whole thing you get in code S but still it seems like theres no real reward for winning first round, and likewise no consequence for losing
Exactly, I don't really get the point. It seems easier to just drop into the Up&Downs and then try to qualify in a big group stage instead of trying to battle through a bracket and then get dropped and have to do the exact same thing.
On May 14 2013 08:09 Yhamm wrote: the USA USA from axeltoss is a too much imo... what's this nationalism from commentators?
Honestly, I found it pretty underwhelming.
Even without the nationalism stance, an America Terran with almost no major results beating Jaedong 2-0 is a big deal. There seemed to be barely any excitement at the end of either of those games.
it's a big deal yes, but why yelling his country and not his name?
On May 14 2013 08:10 chipmonklord17 wrote: So what do you get from winning the first game? I mean if you lose you get U&D and if you win you have to play another round where if you lose you get U&D. I guess I just don't see the point of the system. I mean obviously if you win the whole thing you get in code S but still it seems like theres no real reward for winning first round, and likewise no consequence for losing
Exactly, I don't really get the point. It seems easier to just drop into the Up&Downs and then try to qualify in a big group stage instead of trying to battle through a bracket and then get dropped and have to do the exact same thing.
It actually seems like that's what I'd shoot for. I can see why NA got the majority of the transferring Koreans. As long as you qualify (which should be/was insanely easy for them) and then making it utterly difficult to leave.
Its like we're in the first few season of Code S again, its actually easier to stay than it is to leave
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:30 gas first for Xenocider rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider
2:00 gas for MajOr
3:00 factory for Xenocider 2nd gas for Xenocider CC on the low ground for MajOr
4:00 Starport for Xenocider reactor for Major tech lab on the factory of Xenocider MajOr scouts no natural CC from Xenocider yet factory for MajOr reactored marine production for MajOr
5:00 cloak research started for Xenocider Starport for MajOr banshee for Xenocider reactored hellion production now for MajOr bunker in the natural for MajOr reactor for Xenocider
and there used to be a time (in BW) if you suggested a foreigner would take a map- not even a set, 1 map, over any korean let alone jaedong TL would warn/temp you out of stupidity
On May 14 2013 08:09 Yhamm wrote: the USA USA from axeltoss is a too much imo... what's this nationalism from commentators?
Honestly, I found it pretty underwhelming.
Even without the nationalism stance, an America Terran with almost no major results beating Jaedong 2-0 is a big deal. There seemed to be barely any excitement at the end of either of those games.
it's a big deal yes, but why yelling his country and not his name?
Probably because Theognis tweeted this as a joke before the matches.
so is there any logical reasoning for having the format like it is where you can't be knocked out in round 1 of challenger league? also is EU like this as well or just AM?
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:30 gas first for Xenocider rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider
2:00 gas for MajOr
3:00 factory for Xenocider 2nd gas for Xenocider CC on the low ground for MajOr
4:00 Starport for Xenocider reactor for Major tech lab on the factory of Xenocider MajOr scouts no natural CC from Xenocider yet factory for MajOr reactored marine production for MajOr
5:00 cloak research started for Xenocider Starport for MajOr banshee for Xenocider reactored hellion production now for MajOr bunker in the natural for MajOr reactor for Xenocider
6:00 scan from MajOr sees the banshee spawning and cloak researching viking for MajOr ebay for MajOr natural CC for Xenocider widow mine started for MaOr
7:00 missile turrets started for Major hellions drive into the natural of Xenocider but take a lot of damage from marines and widow mines Xenocider cleans up the hellions of Major missile turret in the main of Major is late and the banshee starts doing damage scan and viking chases the banshee away
8:00 xenocider bounces to the natural and forces another scan before escaping another viking on the way for Major 2nd banshee arrives at the natural of Major banshee harassing the reactor on Major's rax
9:00 banshee of Xenocider is taken out by a scan and marines Raven for MajOr 3rd CC for Xenocider tanks coming out for Xenocider 2 more rax for Xenocider tanks coming out for MajOr 3rd CC started for MajOr
10:00 double ebay for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major scan from Xenocider sees MajOr adding more rax 2nd ebay for Major +1 attack started for Major's bio 1-1 started for Xenocider stim research started for Xenocider
On May 14 2013 08:17 NovemberstOrm wrote: so is there any logical reasoning for having the format like it is where you can't be knocked out in round 1 of challenger league? also is EU like this as well or just AM?
Maybe it's time for Jaedong to retire. He's losing in WCS NA to no-name players who got knocked out in the first round, while Flash is in Code S. That has to hurt.
On May 14 2013 08:17 NovemberstOrm wrote: so is there any logical reasoning for having the format like it is where you can't be knocked out in round 1 of challenger league? also is EU like this as well or just AM?
it's like those playstation games that come with an easier difficulty setting for overseas markets
On May 14 2013 08:17 NovemberstOrm wrote: so is there any logical reasoning for having the format like it is where you can't be knocked out in round 1 of challenger league? also is EU like this as well or just AM?
it's like those playstation games that come with an easier difficulty setting for overseas markets
On May 14 2013 08:16 neoghaleon55 wrote: how the hell did jaedong lose? .......
He went roach+hydra and didn't trade well in game 1. Theognis kept building up his MMMT while holding on and eventually he was able to attack JD's 5th, take it out and then attack up into his exp and win the game. Game #2, JD went for a quick 3rd, 2 hellions from theognis killed 9 drones then theognis also took his 3rd while getting more MMM and mines. He pushed out and kept up the pressure getting good mine hits and such. Jaedong got a good surround but he hesitated a lot losing his third. He lost his 4th when he burrowed and unburrowed his 5 ultras like 2-3 times and theognis started dropping him a lot once he got his ultra army. Eventually, losing your spawning pool, 3rd, 4th, 5th and then trading with a superior army with 10 mines doesn't work unless you're life lol. He also ran his 7 infestors past an MM group near the tower at the left of the map and well ya, less bases, lower supply army and he got rolled lol
On May 14 2013 08:17 NovemberstOrm wrote: so is there any logical reasoning for having the format like it is where you can't be knocked out in round 1 of challenger league? also is EU like this as well or just AM?
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:30 gas first for Xenocider rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider
2:00 gas for MajOr
3:00 factory for Xenocider 2nd gas for Xenocider CC on the low ground for MajOr
4:00 Starport for Xenocider reactor for Major tech lab on the factory of Xenocider MajOr scouts no natural CC from Xenocider yet factory for MajOr reactored marine production for MajOr
5:00 cloak research started for Xenocider Starport for MajOr banshee for Xenocider reactored hellion production now for MajOr bunker in the natural for MajOr reactor for Xenocider
6:00 scan from MajOr sees the banshee spawning and cloak researching viking for MajOr ebay for MajOr natural CC for Xenocider widow mine started for MaOr
7:00 missile turrets started for Major hellions drive into the natural of Xenocider but take a lot of damage from marines and widow mines Xenocider cleans up the hellions of Major missile turret in the main of Major is late and the banshee starts doing damage scan and viking chases the banshee away
8:00 xenocider bounces to the natural and forces another scan before escaping another viking on the way for Major 2nd banshee arrives at the natural of Major banshee harassing the reactor on Major's rax
9:00 banshee of Xenocider is taken out by a scan and marines Raven for MajOr 3rd CC for Xenocider tanks coming out for Xenocider 2 more rax for Xenocider tanks coming out for MajOr 3rd CC started for MajOr
10:00 double ebay for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major scan from Xenocider sees MajOr adding more rax 2nd ebay for Major +1 attack started for Major's bio 1-1 started for Xenocider stim research started for Xenocider
11:00 +1 bio armor started for MajOr stim research started for MajOr double medivac production started for both players both players at 100 supply
12:00 raven and 2 vikings find Xenocider's other banshee and kill it combat shields for Major armory for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major sensor towers for both players at their 3rd
13:00 2nd factory for Xenocider armory for Major combat shields for Xenocider +2 attack started for Xenocider
14:00 Major loads up 2 medivacs and flies around the top of the map avoiding the sensor tower +2 armor for Xenocider double drop at the 3rd of Xenocider is denied marines target down the medivacs before they can lift Xenocider starts pushing the 3rd of Major
15:00 Xenocider's push is denied 2-2 started for MajOr 2 more rax for Xenocider 2nd fact for MajOr 2 more rax for MajOr
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:30 gas first for Xenocider rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider
2:00 gas for MajOr
3:00 factory for Xenocider 2nd gas for Xenocider CC on the low ground for MajOr
4:00 Starport for Xenocider reactor for Major tech lab on the factory of Xenocider MajOr scouts no natural CC from Xenocider yet factory for MajOr reactored marine production for MajOr
5:00 cloak research started for Xenocider Starport for MajOr banshee for Xenocider reactored hellion production now for MajOr bunker in the natural for MajOr reactor for Xenocider
6:00 scan from MajOr sees the banshee spawning and cloak researching viking for MajOr ebay for MajOr natural CC for Xenocider widow mine started for MaOr
7:00 missile turrets started for Major hellions drive into the natural of Xenocider but take a lot of damage from marines and widow mines Xenocider cleans up the hellions of Major missile turret in the main of Major is late and the banshee starts doing damage scan and viking chases the banshee away
8:00 xenocider bounces to the natural and forces another scan before escaping another viking on the way for Major 2nd banshee arrives at the natural of Major banshee harassing the reactor on Major's rax
9:00 banshee of Xenocider is taken out by a scan and marines Raven for MajOr 3rd CC for Xenocider tanks coming out for Xenocider 2 more rax for Xenocider tanks coming out for MajOr 3rd CC started for MajOr
10:00 double ebay for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major scan from Xenocider sees MajOr adding more rax 2nd ebay for Major +1 attack started for Major's bio 1-1 started for Xenocider stim research started for Xenocider
11:00 +1 bio armor started for MajOr stim research started for MajOr double medivac production started for both players both players at 100 supply
12:00 raven and 2 vikings find Xenocider's other banshee and kill it combat shields for Major armory for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major sensor towers for both players at their 3rd
13:00 2nd factory for Xenocider armory for Major combat shields for Xenocider +2 attack started for Xenocider
14:00 Major loads up 2 medivacs and flies around the top of the map avoiding the sensor tower +2 armor for Xenocider double drop at the 3rd of Xenocider is denied marines target down the medivacs before they can lift Xenocider starts pushing the 3rd of Major
15:00 Xenocider's push is denied 2-2 started for MajOr 2 more rax for Xenocider 2nd fact for MajOr 2 more rax for MajOr
16:00 +1 vehicle weapons started for both players widow mine activates right under the army of xenocider Major pauses for keyboard issues
On May 14 2013 08:22 slyderturtle wrote: I know I'm biased, but it makes me kinda sad to see so much wtf jaedong and very little comment on how well theognis played.
Yea same. After JD losing to Demu and Naniwa, you think people wouldn't be that surprised.
(he dropped a game vs Hwangsin and Nony in the qualifiers as well)
On May 14 2013 08:22 slyderturtle wrote: I know I'm biased, but it makes me kinda sad to see so much wtf jaedong and very little comment on how well theognis played.
It's because Theognis played f'ing awesome, honestly. If he'd won using cheeses or if he'd looked bad and jaedong just threw the games worse, then there'd be LOTS of commentary. But it's just self-evident that Theognis kicked ass in macro games, so there isn't a whole lot for haters to say about him, and haters/trolls are what drive long threads on TL...
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:30 gas first for Xenocider rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider
2:00 gas for MajOr
3:00 factory for Xenocider 2nd gas for Xenocider CC on the low ground for MajOr
4:00 Starport for Xenocider reactor for Major tech lab on the factory of Xenocider MajOr scouts no natural CC from Xenocider yet factory for MajOr reactored marine production for MajOr
5:00 cloak research started for Xenocider Starport for MajOr banshee for Xenocider reactored hellion production now for MajOr bunker in the natural for MajOr reactor for Xenocider
6:00 scan from MajOr sees the banshee spawning and cloak researching viking for MajOr ebay for MajOr natural CC for Xenocider widow mine started for MaOr
7:00 missile turrets started for Major hellions drive into the natural of Xenocider but take a lot of damage from marines and widow mines Xenocider cleans up the hellions of Major missile turret in the main of Major is late and the banshee starts doing damage scan and viking chases the banshee away
8:00 xenocider bounces to the natural and forces another scan before escaping another viking on the way for Major 2nd banshee arrives at the natural of Major banshee harassing the reactor on Major's rax
9:00 banshee of Xenocider is taken out by a scan and marines Raven for MajOr 3rd CC for Xenocider tanks coming out for Xenocider 2 more rax for Xenocider tanks coming out for MajOr 3rd CC started for MajOr
10:00 double ebay for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major scan from Xenocider sees MajOr adding more rax 2nd ebay for Major +1 attack started for Major's bio 1-1 started for Xenocider stim research started for Xenocider
11:00 +1 bio armor started for MajOr stim research started for MajOr double medivac production started for both players both players at 100 supply
12:00 raven and 2 vikings find Xenocider's other banshee and kill it combat shields for Major armory for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major sensor towers for both players at their 3rd
13:00 2nd factory for Xenocider armory for Major combat shields for Xenocider +2 attack started for Xenocider
14:00 Major loads up 2 medivacs and flies around the top of the map avoiding the sensor tower +2 armor for Xenocider double drop at the 3rd of Xenocider is denied marines target down the medivacs before they can lift Xenocider starts pushing the 3rd of Major
15:00 Xenocider's push is denied 2-2 started for MajOr 2 more rax for Xenocider 2nd fact for MajOr 2 more rax for MajOr
16:00 +1 vehicle weapons started for both players widow mine activates right under the army of xenocider Major pauses for keyboard issues
16:00 game resumes. widow mine damages some marines 4th CC for MajOr 4th CC for Xenocider
17:00 +3 attack for Xenocider Major stims foward and catches an unsieged tank both plyers are maxed Xenocider pushing the 3rd of Major Xenocider dodges the range of MajOr's tanks
18:00 3rd base of MajOr is killed Xenocider loads up 3 medivacs and drops the main of Major Major drops 2 medivacs on the tanks of Xenocider Major is able to clean up the marines in his main Major kills the tanks of Xenocider and takes a 50 supply lead
19:00 +3 armor for Xenocider MajOr floats out his newly completed CC to his 3rd another CC started for MajOr Xenocider floating out his 4th base 3rd factory for Xenocider Major pushing across the map Major catching another unsieged tank
20:00 Major stims into the 3rd of Xenocider Xenocider lifts his 3rd to save it Xenocider moves his scvs to his 4th base +3 attack started for Major
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:30 gas first for Xenocider rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider
2:00 gas for MajOr
3:00 factory for Xenocider 2nd gas for Xenocider CC on the low ground for MajOr
4:00 Starport for Xenocider reactor for Major tech lab on the factory of Xenocider MajOr scouts no natural CC from Xenocider yet factory for MajOr reactored marine production for MajOr
5:00 cloak research started for Xenocider Starport for MajOr banshee for Xenocider reactored hellion production now for MajOr bunker in the natural for MajOr reactor for Xenocider
6:00 scan from MajOr sees the banshee spawning and cloak researching viking for MajOr ebay for MajOr natural CC for Xenocider widow mine started for MaOr
7:00 missile turrets started for Major hellions drive into the natural of Xenocider but take a lot of damage from marines and widow mines Xenocider cleans up the hellions of Major missile turret in the main of Major is late and the banshee starts doing damage scan and viking chases the banshee away
8:00 xenocider bounces to the natural and forces another scan before escaping another viking on the way for Major 2nd banshee arrives at the natural of Major banshee harassing the reactor on Major's rax
9:00 banshee of Xenocider is taken out by a scan and marines Raven for MajOr 3rd CC for Xenocider tanks coming out for Xenocider 2 more rax for Xenocider tanks coming out for MajOr 3rd CC started for MajOr
10:00 double ebay for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major scan from Xenocider sees MajOr adding more rax 2nd ebay for Major +1 attack started for Major's bio 1-1 started for Xenocider stim research started for Xenocider
11:00 +1 bio armor started for MajOr stim research started for MajOr double medivac production started for both players both players at 100 supply
12:00 raven and 2 vikings find Xenocider's other banshee and kill it combat shields for Major armory for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major sensor towers for both players at their 3rd
13:00 2nd factory for Xenocider armory for Major combat shields for Xenocider +2 attack started for Xenocider
14:00 Major loads up 2 medivacs and flies around the top of the map avoiding the sensor tower +2 armor for Xenocider double drop at the 3rd of Xenocider is denied marines target down the medivacs before they can lift Xenocider starts pushing the 3rd of Major
15:00 Xenocider's push is denied 2-2 started for MajOr 2 more rax for Xenocider 2nd fact for MajOr 2 more rax for MajOr
16:00 +1 vehicle weapons started for both players widow mine activates right under the army of xenocider Major pauses for keyboard issues
16:00 game resumes. widow mine damages some marines 4th CC for MajOr 4th CC for Xenocider
17:00 +3 attack for Xenocider Major stims foward and catches an unsieged tank both plyers are maxed Xenocider pushing the 3rd of Major Xenocider dodges the range of MajOr's tanks
18:00 3rd base of MajOr is killed Xenocider loads up 3 medivacs and drops the main of Major Major drops 2 medivacs on the tanks of Xenocider Major is able to clean up the marines in his main Major kills the tanks of Xenocider and takes a 50 supply lead
19:00 +3 armor for Xenocider MajOr floats out his newly completed CC to his 3rd another CC started for MajOr Xenocider floating out his 4th base 3rd factory for Xenocider Major pushing across the map Major catching another unsieged tank
20:00 Major stims into the 3rd of Xenocider Xenocider lifts his 3rd to save it Xenocider moves his scvs to his 4th base +3 attack started for Major
21:00 +3 armor started for MajOr Major maxed 50 supply ahead of Xenocider +2 vehicle weapons for Major double drop in the 3rd of Major
22:00 Major pushing towards the PF at Xenocider's 4th Xenocider tries to take a defensive position but Major sieges up first Major lands his 4th base a few marines for Xenocider are still alive at Major's 3rd killing rallying medivacs and the OC
23:00 Major finally cleans up his 3rd Major sends another attack to the natural of Xenocider Major still up 40 supply missile turret blocking the 3rd of Xenocider Major building missile turrets near his tanks
24:00 Major is maxed out again 30 supply ahead with 10 less workers Major pushes into the natural of Xenocider Xenocider trying to hold his ramp Xenocider's army is split between his natural and 4th
25:00 both players taking big hits from tanks on their marines and back off another CC for Major
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:30 gas first for Xenocider rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider
2:00 gas for MajOr
3:00 factory for Xenocider 2nd gas for Xenocider CC on the low ground for MajOr
4:00 Starport for Xenocider reactor for Major tech lab on the factory of Xenocider MajOr scouts no natural CC from Xenocider yet factory for MajOr reactored marine production for MajOr
5:00 cloak research started for Xenocider Starport for MajOr banshee for Xenocider reactored hellion production now for MajOr bunker in the natural for MajOr reactor for Xenocider
6:00 scan from MajOr sees the banshee spawning and cloak researching viking for MajOr ebay for MajOr natural CC for Xenocider widow mine started for MaOr
7:00 missile turrets started for Major hellions drive into the natural of Xenocider but take a lot of damage from marines and widow mines Xenocider cleans up the hellions of Major missile turret in the main of Major is late and the banshee starts doing damage scan and viking chases the banshee away
8:00 xenocider bounces to the natural and forces another scan before escaping another viking on the way for Major 2nd banshee arrives at the natural of Major banshee harassing the reactor on Major's rax
9:00 banshee of Xenocider is taken out by a scan and marines Raven for MajOr 3rd CC for Xenocider tanks coming out for Xenocider 2 more rax for Xenocider tanks coming out for MajOr 3rd CC started for MajOr
10:00 double ebay for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major scan from Xenocider sees MajOr adding more rax 2nd ebay for Major +1 attack started for Major's bio 1-1 started for Xenocider stim research started for Xenocider
11:00 +1 bio armor started for MajOr stim research started for MajOr double medivac production started for both players both players at 100 supply
12:00 raven and 2 vikings find Xenocider's other banshee and kill it combat shields for Major armory for Xenocider 2 more rax for Major sensor towers for both players at their 3rd
13:00 2nd factory for Xenocider armory for Major combat shields for Xenocider +2 attack started for Xenocider
14:00 Major loads up 2 medivacs and flies around the top of the map avoiding the sensor tower +2 armor for Xenocider double drop at the 3rd of Xenocider is denied marines target down the medivacs before they can lift Xenocider starts pushing the 3rd of Major
15:00 Xenocider's push is denied 2-2 started for MajOr 2 more rax for Xenocider 2nd fact for MajOr 2 more rax for MajOr
16:00 +1 vehicle weapons started for both players widow mine activates right under the army of xenocider Major pauses for keyboard issues
16:00 game resumes. widow mine damages some marines 4th CC for MajOr 4th CC for Xenocider
17:00 +3 attack for Xenocider Major stims foward and catches an unsieged tank both plyers are maxed Xenocider pushing the 3rd of Major Xenocider dodges the range of MajOr's tanks
18:00 3rd base of MajOr is killed Xenocider loads up 3 medivacs and drops the main of Major Major drops 2 medivacs on the tanks of Xenocider Major is able to clean up the marines in his main Major kills the tanks of Xenocider and takes a 50 supply lead
19:00 +3 armor for Xenocider MajOr floats out his newly completed CC to his 3rd another CC started for MajOr Xenocider floating out his 4th base 3rd factory for Xenocider Major pushing across the map Major catching another unsieged tank
20:00 Major stims into the 3rd of Xenocider Xenocider lifts his 3rd to save it Xenocider moves his scvs to his 4th base +3 attack started for Major
21:00 +3 armor started for MajOr Major maxed 50 supply ahead of Xenocider +2 vehicle weapons for Major double drop in the 3rd of Major
22:00 Major pushing towards the PF at Xenocider's 4th Xenocider tries to take a defensive position but Major sieges up first Major lands his 4th base a few marines for Xenocider are still alive at Major's 3rd killing rallying medivacs and the OC
23:00 Major finally cleans up his 3rd Major sends another attack to the natural of Xenocider Major still up 40 supply missile turret blocking the 3rd of Xenocider Major building missile turrets near his tanks
24:00 Major is maxed out again 30 supply ahead with 10 less workers Major pushes into the natural of Xenocider Xenocider trying to hold his ramp Xenocider's army is split between his natural and 4th
25:00 both players taking big hits from tanks on their marines and back off another CC for Major
26:00 patrolling marine scouts the triple drop of Xenocider in the bottom right of the map auto tracking for Major Xenocider unloads his triple dorp and sets up a flank on Major's army Xenocider cleans up the army of Major near his 4th Major tries to use his own flank but Xenocider holds his base
27:00 Xenocider tries to break down his natural ramp but takes heavy losses marine reinforcements run in for Major and take ou the tanks of Xenocider Major killing the whole army of Xenocider Xenocider dropping to 100 supply Xenocider ggs! MajOr wins game 1!
Xeno.... threw the game when he left 8 tanks undefended to do a drop in Major's main that did no damage. He had a lead at the point, taking out Major's 3rd.
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:40 rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider gas for MajOr
2:00 gas for Xenocider
3:00 reaper for MajOr
4:00 CC on the low ground for MajOr CC on the high ground for Xenocider reactor for Xenocider factory for Xenocider Factory for Major
5:00 2 reapers out for Major now reapers get into the main and scout the CC scv building the CC is killed Major escapes with 1 reaper starport for Xenocider Starport for Major reactored hellion production started for Major reactored hellion production for Xenocider
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:40 rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider gas for MajOr
2:00 gas for Xenocider
3:00 reaper for MajOr
4:00 CC on the low ground for MajOr CC on the high ground for Xenocider reactor for Xenocider factory for Xenocider Factory for Major
5:00 2 reapers out for Major now reapers get into the main and scout the CC scv building the CC is killed Major escapes with 1 reaper starport for Xenocider Starport for Major reactored hellion production started for Major reactored hellion production for Xenocider
6:00 viking for Major widow mines for Xenocider medivac for Xenocider tech lab on the rax for Xenocider reaper jumps back into the main of Xenocider and scouts the builds
7:00 Major sending hellions and a viking across the map Xenocider landing his natural OC Major baits out the widow mine shot of Xenocider and kills the widow mine hellion marine drop in the main of Major
8:00 Major trying the bust the wall of Xenocider tank gets out for Xenocider 3 hellions get into the main of Xenocider Xenocider cleans up the hellions 3rd CC finishes for Xenocider Xenocider takes a 10 supply lead
9:00 viking fr Xenocider 2 more factories for Major 3rd CC for Major hellions poking the natural of Xenocider but are denied by a tank medivac for Major 2 more rax for Xenocider
10:00 double ebay for Xenocider Raven for Major 1-1 started for Xenocider 8 marine drop in the main of Major
On May 14 2013 08:36 Wombat_NI wrote: Xenocider is a boss, one of the better commentary + play streams out there as well. Hope he gets featured in the future, he's pretty young as well
I've been watching Xeno for a while and hope he goes pretty far in this tournament so he fulfill's the "accomplishments" requirement type thing to get featured. I pretty much learned how to play Terran from him.
Let's see if he tries to pull him apart with the drops against MajOr's signature mech here. C'mon Libo!
Whoa, Jaedong lost to some random american T? :O That's so depressing for someone who's been a fan of him since the BW era. The days when JD could say that playing a foreigner is like playing the AI are long gone.
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:40 rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider gas for MajOr
2:00 gas for Xenocider
3:00 reaper for MajOr
4:00 CC on the low ground for MajOr CC on the high ground for Xenocider reactor for Xenocider factory for Xenocider Factory for Major
5:00 2 reapers out for Major now reapers get into the main and scout the CC scv building the CC is killed Major escapes with 1 reaper starport for Xenocider Starport for Major reactored hellion production started for Major reactored hellion production for Xenocider
6:00 viking for Major widow mines for Xenocider medivac for Xenocider tech lab on the rax for Xenocider reaper jumps back into the main of Xenocider and scouts the builds
7:00 Major sending hellions and a viking across the map Xenocider landing his natural OC Major baits out the widow mine shot of Xenocider and kills the widow mine hellion marine drop in the main of Major
8:00 Major trying the bust the wall of Xenocider tank gets out for Xenocider 3 hellions get into the main of Xenocider Xenocider cleans up the hellions 3rd CC finishes for Xenocider Xenocider takes a 10 supply lead
9:00 viking fr Xenocider 2 more factories for Major 3rd CC for Major hellions poking the natural of Xenocider but are denied by a tank medivac for Major 2 more rax for Xenocider
10:00 double ebay for Xenocider Raven for Major 1-1 started for Xenocider 8 marine drop in the main of Major
11:00 hellion drop in the main of Xenocider is cleaned up Major cleans up the drop in his main 2 more rax for Xenocider
12:00 Major floating out his 3rd Xenocider floating out his 3rd sitm research for Xenocider combat shields for Xenocider armory for Major ebay for Major Marauder production started for Xenocider
13:00 armory for Xenocider Major tries his hellions into some tank fire Major starting his turret ring and a sensor tower at his 3rd +1 vehicle weapons started for Major 2 more factories for Major
14:00 concussive shells for Xenocider 2-2 started for Xenocider hellion driveby into the 3rd of Xenocider kills a few scvs both players have killed 14 workers now hellbats started for Major
15:00 Major walling off his 3rd base +1 vehicle weapons for Xenocider Xenocider goes for a double drop on the tanks at Major's 3rd vikings kill off the medivacs after Xenocider loads them back up 4th CC for Major 4th CC for Xenocider
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:40 rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider gas for MajOr
2:00 gas for Xenocider
3:00 reaper for MajOr
4:00 CC on the low ground for MajOr CC on the high ground for Xenocider reactor for Xenocider factory for Xenocider Factory for Major
5:00 2 reapers out for Major now reapers get into the main and scout the CC scv building the CC is killed Major escapes with 1 reaper starport for Xenocider Starport for Major reactored hellion production started for Major reactored hellion production for Xenocider
6:00 viking for Major widow mines for Xenocider medivac for Xenocider tech lab on the rax for Xenocider reaper jumps back into the main of Xenocider and scouts the builds
7:00 Major sending hellions and a viking across the map Xenocider landing his natural OC Major baits out the widow mine shot of Xenocider and kills the widow mine hellion marine drop in the main of Major
8:00 Major trying the bust the wall of Xenocider tank gets out for Xenocider 3 hellions get into the main of Xenocider Xenocider cleans up the hellions 3rd CC finishes for Xenocider Xenocider takes a 10 supply lead
9:00 viking fr Xenocider 2 more factories for Major 3rd CC for Major hellions poking the natural of Xenocider but are denied by a tank medivac for Major 2 more rax for Xenocider
10:00 double ebay for Xenocider Raven for Major 1-1 started for Xenocider 8 marine drop in the main of Major
11:00 hellion drop in the main of Xenocider is cleaned up Major cleans up the drop in his main 2 more rax for Xenocider
12:00 Major floating out his 3rd Xenocider floating out his 3rd sitm research for Xenocider combat shields for Xenocider armory for Major ebay for Major Marauder production started for Xenocider
13:00 armory for Xenocider Major tries his hellions into some tank fire Major starting his turret ring and a sensor tower at his 3rd +1 vehicle weapons started for Major 2 more factories for Major
14:00 concussive shells for Xenocider 2-2 started for Xenocider hellion driveby into the 3rd of Xenocider kills a few scvs both players have killed 14 workers now hellbats started for Major
15:00 Major walling off his 3rd base +1 vehicle weapons for Xenocider Xenocider goes for a double drop on the tanks at Major's 3rd vikings kill off the medivacs after Xenocider loads them back up 4th CC for Major 4th CC for Xenocider
16:00 hellbat drop at the 3rd of Xenocider 5th CC for Major 2 more rax for Xenocider +2 vehicle weapons for Major
17:00 Major floating out his 4th base 3-3 started for Xenocider Xenocider denies the 4th of Major from landing
18:00 Major pushing around the top of the map vikings harassing the medivacs of Xenocider Major sieges up outside the 3rd of Xenocider double drop in the 3rd of Major is denied drop moves to the main of Major PF morphing at Major's 4th
19:00 Xenocider sets up a flank on Major's army pdd goes down Major is able to hold his position Xenocider 30 supply behind
20:00 reinforcements arrive for Major Major just attack moving his army and pushing Xenocider back tanks siege up outside Xenocider's natural Major 50 supply ahead Major unsieges his tanks and Xenocider tries to push Major back more reinforcements arrive for Major Xenocider closing the supply gap
0:00 MajOr spawns in the bottom left Xenocider spawns in the top right
1:40 rax for MajOr rax for Xenocider gas for MajOr
2:00 gas for Xenocider
3:00 reaper for MajOr
4:00 CC on the low ground for MajOr CC on the high ground for Xenocider reactor for Xenocider factory for Xenocider Factory for Major
5:00 2 reapers out for Major now reapers get into the main and scout the CC scv building the CC is killed Major escapes with 1 reaper starport for Xenocider Starport for Major reactored hellion production started for Major reactored hellion production for Xenocider
6:00 viking for Major widow mines for Xenocider medivac for Xenocider tech lab on the rax for Xenocider reaper jumps back into the main of Xenocider and scouts the builds
7:00 Major sending hellions and a viking across the map Xenocider landing his natural OC Major baits out the widow mine shot of Xenocider and kills the widow mine hellion marine drop in the main of Major
8:00 Major trying the bust the wall of Xenocider tank gets out for Xenocider 3 hellions get into the main of Xenocider Xenocider cleans up the hellions 3rd CC finishes for Xenocider Xenocider takes a 10 supply lead
9:00 viking fr Xenocider 2 more factories for Major 3rd CC for Major hellions poking the natural of Xenocider but are denied by a tank medivac for Major 2 more rax for Xenocider
10:00 double ebay for Xenocider Raven for Major 1-1 started for Xenocider 8 marine drop in the main of Major
11:00 hellion drop in the main of Xenocider is cleaned up Major cleans up the drop in his main 2 more rax for Xenocider
12:00 Major floating out his 3rd Xenocider floating out his 3rd sitm research for Xenocider combat shields for Xenocider armory for Major ebay for Major Marauder production started for Xenocider
13:00 armory for Xenocider Major tries his hellions into some tank fire Major starting his turret ring and a sensor tower at his 3rd +1 vehicle weapons started for Major 2 more factories for Major
14:00 concussive shells for Xenocider 2-2 started for Xenocider hellion driveby into the 3rd of Xenocider kills a few scvs both players have killed 14 workers now hellbats started for Major
15:00 Major walling off his 3rd base +1 vehicle weapons for Xenocider Xenocider goes for a double drop on the tanks at Major's 3rd vikings kill off the medivacs after Xenocider loads them back up 4th CC for Major 4th CC for Xenocider
16:00 hellbat drop at the 3rd of Xenocider 5th CC for Major 2 more rax for Xenocider +2 vehicle weapons for Major
17:00 Major floating out his 4th base 3-3 started for Xenocider Xenocider denies the 4th of Major from landing
18:00 Major pushing around the top of the map vikings harassing the medivacs of Xenocider Major sieges up outside the 3rd of Xenocider double drop in the 3rd of Major is denied drop moves to the main of Major PF morphing at Major's 4th
19:00 Xenocider sets up a flank on Major's army pdd goes down Major is able to hold his position Xenocider 30 supply behind
20:00 reinforcements arrive for Major Major just attack moving his army and pushing Xenocider back tanks siege up outside Xenocider's natural Major 50 supply ahead Major unsieges his tanks and Xenocider tries to push Major back more reinforcements arrive for Major Xenocider closing the supply gap
21:00 banshee startedf or Major 2nd starport for Major Major starts pushing Xenocider back into his natural Major back up to a 50 supply lead more units trickling in for Major
22:00 Major takes his 5th base 6th CC started for Major Major sieges up the production for Xenocider Xenocider pulls his scvs in the natural Xenocider ggs! MajOr wins 2-0!
Maj0r's TvT seems a level above his other matchups, really solid.
Can't wait to see him back playing offline again, it's been ages so hopefully he can make it through groups in 'Code S'. Xenocider is also pretty solid looking, America seems to have a good few more up-and-coming Terrans than i can remember in a while, might be that they aren't playing WoL as well of course :p
On May 14 2013 08:54 calippo wrote: grats juan, but he seems so far away from being ready for SPL , was expecting more.
Keep in mind that he was playing ultra safe and compensating against lag, in TvT it can be a real bitch. In saying that though I definitely expect more from him as he advances through Challenger's, lets hope he rises to the challenge.
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top right Bails spawns in the top left
1:30 gas first for Fenix gateway for Bails rax for Fenix
2:00 double gas for Bails cybernetics core for Bails
3:00 Factory for Fenix mothership core for Bails widow mine started for Fenix
4:00 Starport for Fenix Nexus for Bails zealot of Bails suicides into the natural and sees no natural CC
5:00 medivac for Fenix robo for Bails reactor for Fenix 2nd gate for Bails CC on the low ground for Fenix 2nd gas for Fenix
6:00 widow mine drop in the natural of bails observer for Bails 2 more rax for Fenix 2nd observer for Bails widow mine is cleaned up only a pylon was killed by the drop
7:00 stim research started for Fenix twilight council for Bails drop in the main of Bails widow mine +2 marines photon overcharge on the main nexus widow mine show is dodged by a probe going into the assimilator
8:00 0 worker kills from Fenix immortal out for Bails Marauder production started for Fenix ebay for Bails Robo bay for Bails combat shields for Fenix
9:00 2 more rax for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails +1 attack started for Fenix colossus production started for Bails
10:00 double forge for Bails blink research started for Bails concussive shells for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix 2nd colossus for Bails Extended thermal lance research started for Bails
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top right Bails spawns in the top left
1:30 gas first for Fenix gateway for Bails rax for Fenix
2:00 double gas for Bails cybernetics core for Bails
3:00 Factory for Fenix mothership core for Bails widow mine started for Fenix
4:00 Starport for Fenix Nexus for Bails zealot of Bails suicides into the natural and sees no natural CC
5:00 medivac for Fenix robo for Bails reactor for Fenix 2nd gate for Bails CC on the low ground for Fenix 2nd gas for Fenix
6:00 widow mine drop in the natural of bails observer for Bails 2 more rax for Fenix 2nd observer for Bails widow mine is cleaned up only a pylon was killed by the drop
7:00 stim research started for Fenix twilight council for Bails drop in the main of Bails widow mine +2 marines photon overcharge on the main nexus widow mine show is dodged by a probe going into the assimilator
8:00 0 worker kills from Fenix immortal out for Bails Marauder production started for Fenix ebay for Bails Robo bay for Bails combat shields for Fenix
9:00 2 more rax for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails +1 attack started for Fenix colossus production started for Bails
10:00 double forge for Bails blink research started for Bails concussive shells for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix 2nd colossus for Bails Extended thermal lance research started for Bails
11:00 1-1 started for Bails 3rd CC for Fenix double viking production for Fenix 2nd starport for Fenix
12:00 cannons going up for Bails armory for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails
13:00 Bails switching back to immortals after 3 colossi 3rd base for Bails +2 attack +1 armor started for Fenix charge research started for Bails Fenix pokes into the 3rd but loses part of his army to forcefields and colossi drop at the natural of bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus
14:00 Bails stops Fenix from pushing back into his 3rd +1 ship weapons started for Fenix 2-2 started for Bails 3 more rax for Fenix
15:00 Fenix breaking down the rocks to the 3rd of Bails 4th CC started for Fenix supplies are about even Fenix backs off
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top right Bails spawns in the top left
1:30 gas first for Fenix gateway for Bails rax for Fenix
2:00 double gas for Bails cybernetics core for Bails
3:00 Factory for Fenix mothership core for Bails widow mine started for Fenix
4:00 Starport for Fenix Nexus for Bails zealot of Bails suicides into the natural and sees no natural CC
5:00 medivac for Fenix robo for Bails reactor for Fenix 2nd gate for Bails CC on the low ground for Fenix 2nd gas for Fenix
6:00 widow mine drop in the natural of bails observer for Bails 2 more rax for Fenix 2nd observer for Bails widow mine is cleaned up only a pylon was killed by the drop
7:00 stim research started for Fenix twilight council for Bails drop in the main of Bails widow mine +2 marines photon overcharge on the main nexus widow mine show is dodged by a probe going into the assimilator
8:00 0 worker kills from Fenix immortal out for Bails Marauder production started for Fenix ebay for Bails Robo bay for Bails combat shields for Fenix
9:00 2 more rax for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails +1 attack started for Fenix colossus production started for Bails
10:00 double forge for Bails blink research started for Bails concussive shells for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix 2nd colossus for Bails Extended thermal lance research started for Bails
11:00 1-1 started for Bails 3rd CC for Fenix double viking production for Fenix 2nd starport for Fenix
12:00 cannons going up for Bails armory for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails
13:00 Bails switching back to immortals after 3 colossi 3rd base for Bails +2 attack +1 armor started for Fenix charge research started for Bails Fenix pokes into the 3rd but loses part of his army to forcefields and colossi drop at the natural of bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus
14:00 Bails stops Fenix from pushing back into his 3rd +1 ship weapons started for Fenix 2-2 started for Bails 3 more rax for Fenix
15:00 Fenix breaking down the rocks to the 3rd of Bails 4th CC started for Fenix supplies are about even Fenix backs off
16:00 Templar archives for Bails 2 more gates for Bails ghost academy for Fenix +3 attack +2 armor for Fenix 5th CC started for Fenix
17:00 small bio force stims into the natural of Bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus Fenix engages at the 3rd of Bails and picks off a colossus with is vikings drop in the main of Bails photon overcharge on the main nexus Fenix takes out 2 gateways 3-3 started for Bails
18:00 2 more gates on the way for Bails archons being added in for Bails moebius reactor for Fenix drop in the main of Bails stalkers and zealots chase the drop away
19:00 +2 ship weapons started for Fenix hellbats for Fenix ghost production started for Fenix Fenix pushing into the 3rd of Bails double drop in the natural of Bails ghost cloak for Fenix Fenix lands his 4th base Bails defends both attacks
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top right Bails spawns in the top left
1:30 gas first for Fenix gateway for Bails rax for Fenix
2:00 double gas for Bails cybernetics core for Bails
3:00 Factory for Fenix mothership core for Bails widow mine started for Fenix
4:00 Starport for Fenix Nexus for Bails zealot of Bails suicides into the natural and sees no natural CC
5:00 medivac for Fenix robo for Bails reactor for Fenix 2nd gate for Bails CC on the low ground for Fenix 2nd gas for Fenix
6:00 widow mine drop in the natural of bails observer for Bails 2 more rax for Fenix 2nd observer for Bails widow mine is cleaned up only a pylon was killed by the drop
7:00 stim research started for Fenix twilight council for Bails drop in the main of Bails widow mine +2 marines photon overcharge on the main nexus widow mine show is dodged by a probe going into the assimilator
8:00 0 worker kills from Fenix immortal out for Bails Marauder production started for Fenix ebay for Bails Robo bay for Bails combat shields for Fenix
9:00 2 more rax for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails +1 attack started for Fenix colossus production started for Bails
10:00 double forge for Bails blink research started for Bails concussive shells for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix 2nd colossus for Bails Extended thermal lance research started for Bails
11:00 1-1 started for Bails 3rd CC for Fenix double viking production for Fenix 2nd starport for Fenix
12:00 cannons going up for Bails armory for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails
13:00 Bails switching back to immortals after 3 colossi 3rd base for Bails +2 attack +1 armor started for Fenix charge research started for Bails Fenix pokes into the 3rd but loses part of his army to forcefields and colossi drop at the natural of bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus
14:00 Bails stops Fenix from pushing back into his 3rd +1 ship weapons started for Fenix 2-2 started for Bails 3 more rax for Fenix
15:00 Fenix breaking down the rocks to the 3rd of Bails 4th CC started for Fenix supplies are about even Fenix backs off
16:00 Templar archives for Bails 2 more gates for Bails ghost academy for Fenix +3 attack +2 armor for Fenix 5th CC started for Fenix
17:00 small bio force stims into the natural of Bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus Fenix engages at the 3rd of Bails and picks off a colossus with is vikings drop in the main of Bails photon overcharge on the main nexus Fenix takes out 2 gateways 3-3 started for Bails
18:00 2 more gates on the way for Bails archons being added in for Bails moebius reactor for Fenix drop in the main of Bails stalkers and zealots chase the drop away
19:00 +2 ship weapons started for Fenix hellbats for Fenix ghost production started for Fenix Fenix pushing into the 3rd of Bails double drop in the natural of Bails ghost cloak for Fenix Fenix lands his 4th base Bails defends both attacks
20:00 Fenix is maxed vs 185 supply
21:00 Fenix starts pushing towards the 3rd of Bails again 2nd bio group attacks the natural of Bails Bails losing some gateways in his natural big engagement at the 3rd of Bails vikings take out the colossi Fenix kiting back against the rest of the army
22:00 Bails is able to force back the army of Fenix Fenix lands his vikings and loses them all to stalkers 2 more CCs for Fenix colossus production restarted for Bails mothership core restarted for Bails Fenix morphing a PF at his 5th
23:00 Fenix is 30 supply ahead 4th base started for Bails quadruple viking production again for Fenix Fenix scans the 4th of Bails
24:00 marauder force stims into the 4th of Bails 4th of Bails is canceled Fenix sends another bio force into the natural but Bails defends against it
25:00 4th base restarted for Bails Fenix drops the 4th and forces another cancel double drop in the natural of Bails Bails cleans up his natural
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top right Bails spawns in the top left
1:30 gas first for Fenix gateway for Bails rax for Fenix
2:00 double gas for Bails cybernetics core for Bails
3:00 Factory for Fenix mothership core for Bails widow mine started for Fenix
4:00 Starport for Fenix Nexus for Bails zealot of Bails suicides into the natural and sees no natural CC
5:00 medivac for Fenix robo for Bails reactor for Fenix 2nd gate for Bails CC on the low ground for Fenix 2nd gas for Fenix
6:00 widow mine drop in the natural of bails observer for Bails 2 more rax for Fenix 2nd observer for Bails widow mine is cleaned up only a pylon was killed by the drop
7:00 stim research started for Fenix twilight council for Bails drop in the main of Bails widow mine +2 marines photon overcharge on the main nexus widow mine show is dodged by a probe going into the assimilator
8:00 0 worker kills from Fenix immortal out for Bails Marauder production started for Fenix ebay for Bails Robo bay for Bails combat shields for Fenix
9:00 2 more rax for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails +1 attack started for Fenix colossus production started for Bails
10:00 double forge for Bails blink research started for Bails concussive shells for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix 2nd colossus for Bails Extended thermal lance research started for Bails
11:00 1-1 started for Bails 3rd CC for Fenix double viking production for Fenix 2nd starport for Fenix
12:00 cannons going up for Bails armory for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails
13:00 Bails switching back to immortals after 3 colossi 3rd base for Bails +2 attack +1 armor started for Fenix charge research started for Bails Fenix pokes into the 3rd but loses part of his army to forcefields and colossi drop at the natural of bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus
14:00 Bails stops Fenix from pushing back into his 3rd +1 ship weapons started for Fenix 2-2 started for Bails 3 more rax for Fenix
15:00 Fenix breaking down the rocks to the 3rd of Bails 4th CC started for Fenix supplies are about even Fenix backs off
16:00 Templar archives for Bails 2 more gates for Bails ghost academy for Fenix +3 attack +2 armor for Fenix 5th CC started for Fenix
17:00 small bio force stims into the natural of Bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus Fenix engages at the 3rd of Bails and picks off a colossus with is vikings drop in the main of Bails photon overcharge on the main nexus Fenix takes out 2 gateways 3-3 started for Bails
18:00 2 more gates on the way for Bails archons being added in for Bails moebius reactor for Fenix drop in the main of Bails stalkers and zealots chase the drop away
19:00 +2 ship weapons started for Fenix hellbats for Fenix ghost production started for Fenix Fenix pushing into the 3rd of Bails double drop in the natural of Bails ghost cloak for Fenix Fenix lands his 4th base Bails defends both attacks
20:00 Fenix is maxed vs 185 supply
21:00 Fenix starts pushing towards the 3rd of Bails again 2nd bio group attacks the natural of Bails Bails losing some gateways in his natural big engagement at the 3rd of Bails vikings take out the colossi Fenix kiting back against the rest of the army
22:00 Bails is able to force back the army of Fenix Fenix lands his vikings and loses them all to stalkers 2 more CCs for Fenix colossus production restarted for Bails mothership core restarted for Bails Fenix morphing a PF at his 5th
23:00 Fenix is 30 supply ahead 4th base started for Bails quadruple viking production again for Fenix Fenix scans the 4th of Bails
24:00 marauder force stims into the 4th of Bails 4th of Bails is canceled Fenix sends another bio force into the natural but Bails defends against it
25:00 4th base restarted for Bails Fenix drops the 4th and forces another cancel double drop in the natural of Bails Bails cleans up his natural
26:00 4th base restarted for Bails Fenix regroups his army and moves out to the center of the map
27:00 ghosts cloak and move forward bails has an observer Bails trying to dodge emps armies engage outside the natural of Bails Bails has a good concave and pushes back the army of Fenix
28:00 Bails chasing the medivacs across the map supply counts are evened up Fenix down to 2 medivacs bio reinfrocements show up and start killing the army of Bails Fenix takes a 20 supply lead Bails remaking colossi
29:00 another CC for Fenix Bio force pushing into the 4th of Bails but Fenix backs off after seeing the protoss army another small bio force killing probes at the 3rd of Bails Fenix 50 supply ahead drop in hte natural of Bails Photon overcharge on the 3rd of Bails
30:00 Fenix is 60 supply ahead Bails defends his natural
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top right Bails spawns in the top left
1:30 gas first for Fenix gateway for Bails rax for Fenix
2:00 double gas for Bails cybernetics core for Bails
3:00 Factory for Fenix mothership core for Bails widow mine started for Fenix
4:00 Starport for Fenix Nexus for Bails zealot of Bails suicides into the natural and sees no natural CC
5:00 medivac for Fenix robo for Bails reactor for Fenix 2nd gate for Bails CC on the low ground for Fenix 2nd gas for Fenix
6:00 widow mine drop in the natural of bails observer for Bails 2 more rax for Fenix 2nd observer for Bails widow mine is cleaned up only a pylon was killed by the drop
7:00 stim research started for Fenix twilight council for Bails drop in the main of Bails widow mine +2 marines photon overcharge on the main nexus widow mine show is dodged by a probe going into the assimilator
8:00 0 worker kills from Fenix immortal out for Bails Marauder production started for Fenix ebay for Bails Robo bay for Bails combat shields for Fenix
9:00 2 more rax for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails +1 attack started for Fenix colossus production started for Bails
10:00 double forge for Bails blink research started for Bails concussive shells for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix 2nd colossus for Bails Extended thermal lance research started for Bails
11:00 1-1 started for Bails 3rd CC for Fenix double viking production for Fenix 2nd starport for Fenix
12:00 cannons going up for Bails armory for Fenix 2 more gates for Bails
13:00 Bails switching back to immortals after 3 colossi 3rd base for Bails +2 attack +1 armor started for Fenix charge research started for Bails Fenix pokes into the 3rd but loses part of his army to forcefields and colossi drop at the natural of bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus
14:00 Bails stops Fenix from pushing back into his 3rd +1 ship weapons started for Fenix 2-2 started for Bails 3 more rax for Fenix
15:00 Fenix breaking down the rocks to the 3rd of Bails 4th CC started for Fenix supplies are about even Fenix backs off
16:00 Templar archives for Bails 2 more gates for Bails ghost academy for Fenix +3 attack +2 armor for Fenix 5th CC started for Fenix
17:00 small bio force stims into the natural of Bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus Fenix engages at the 3rd of Bails and picks off a colossus with is vikings drop in the main of Bails photon overcharge on the main nexus Fenix takes out 2 gateways 3-3 started for Bails
18:00 2 more gates on the way for Bails archons being added in for Bails moebius reactor for Fenix drop in the main of Bails stalkers and zealots chase the drop away
19:00 +2 ship weapons started for Fenix hellbats for Fenix ghost production started for Fenix Fenix pushing into the 3rd of Bails double drop in the natural of Bails ghost cloak for Fenix Fenix lands his 4th base Bails defends both attacks
20:00 Fenix is maxed vs 185 supply
21:00 Fenix starts pushing towards the 3rd of Bails again 2nd bio group attacks the natural of Bails Bails losing some gateways in his natural big engagement at the 3rd of Bails vikings take out the colossi Fenix kiting back against the rest of the army
22:00 Bails is able to force back the army of Fenix Fenix lands his vikings and loses them all to stalkers 2 more CCs for Fenix colossus production restarted for Bails mothership core restarted for Bails Fenix morphing a PF at his 5th
23:00 Fenix is 30 supply ahead 4th base started for Bails quadruple viking production again for Fenix Fenix scans the 4th of Bails
24:00 marauder force stims into the 4th of Bails 4th of Bails is canceled Fenix sends another bio force into the natural but Bails defends against it
25:00 4th base restarted for Bails Fenix drops the 4th and forces another cancel double drop in the natural of Bails Bails cleans up his natural
26:00 4th base restarted for Bails Fenix regroups his army and moves out to the center of the map
27:00 ghosts cloak and move forward bails has an observer Bails trying to dodge emps armies engage outside the natural of Bails Bails has a good concave and pushes back the army of Fenix
28:00 Bails chasing the medivacs across the map supply counts are evened up Fenix down to 2 medivacs bio reinfrocements show up and start killing the army of Bails Fenix takes a 20 supply lead Bails remaking colossi
29:00 another CC for Fenix Bio force pushing into the 4th of Bails but Fenix backs off after seeing the protoss army another small bio force killing probes at the 3rd of Bails Fenix 50 supply ahead drop in hte natural of Bails Photon overcharge on the 3rd of Bails
30:00 Fenix is 60 supply ahead Bails defends his natural
31:00 Fenix is taking a 6th base Fenix gathers his army in the center of the map Fenix 90 supply ahead now
32:00 PF morphing at Fenix's 6th marines run into the 3rd of Bails and kill a few more probes Fenix is maxed vs 111 supply
33:00 double drop in the natural of Bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus forces Fenix to back off feedback on a few medivacs and ghosts of Fenix Fenix pushing into the 3rd of Bails with only half of his army at first Fenix engages with everything now Bails doesnt have nearly enough to hold
34:00 Bails loses his army Bails ggs! Fenix wins game 1!
On May 14 2013 09:26 Wombat_NI wrote: Fenix pretty much had the worst engagement he could have into that choke, too far ahead though for it to matter
Yeah it felt like once Fenix was about a base ahead he was just able to take terrible engagements since he was so ahead on macro.
I think Bails had really solid defense up through the midgame but he got stuck on his two and then three bases for too long and he just couldn't defend forever. That said I'm actually really interested in his style from a learning perspective. I think he did a pretty good job of spreading his units correctly and getting good engagements. There are obviously tons of things he could've done better but his style seems really emulatable, which is cool. I'll have to keep an eye out for him.
If you want to emulate anyone, emulate Rain. Pretty hard though! :p He's kind of like my new Creator, really solid builds that are pretty copyable (albeit at a lower standard)
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top left Bails spawns in the bottom right
1:40 rax first for Fenix gas for Fenix gateway for Bails
2:00 double gas for Bails reaper for Fenix cybernetics core for Bails
3:00 CC on the low ground for Fenix reactor for Fenix after the reaper finishes mothership core for Bails
4:00 reaper looking for proxies Nexus for Bails ebay for Fenix
5:00 bunker in he natural for Fenix reaper scouts the natural nexus Robo for Bails 2nd gateway for Bails 2 more rax for Fenix +1 attack started for Fenix reaper scouts the main of Bails again
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top left Bails spawns in the bottom right
1:40 rax first for Fenix gas for Fenix gateway for Bails
2:00 double gas for Bails reaper for Fenix cybernetics core for Bails
3:00 CC on the low ground for Fenix reactor for Fenix after the reaper finishes mothership core for Bails
4:00 reaper looking for proxies Nexus for Bails ebay for Fenix
5:00 bunker in he natural for Fenix reaper scouts the natural nexus Robo for Bails 2nd gateway for Bails 2 more rax for Fenix +1 attack started for Fenix reaper scouts the main of Bails again
6:00 another gas for Fenix observer for Bails Robotics bay for Bails stim research for Fenix
7:00 combat shields for Fenix 2 more gas for Bails Marauder production started for Fenix Factory for Fenix
8:00 Colossus production started for Bails forge for Bails Fenix moving across the map with a bio force marines take out a sentry and bait a photon overcharge before backing off Extended thermal lance research started for Bails +1 armor started for Fenix starport for Fenix
9:00 +1 attack started for Bails 2 more gates for Bails concussive shells for Fenix 2 more rax for Fenix Fenix scans the main of Bails and is denied from the natural by a colossus
10:00 2 more gates for Bails double medivac production started for Fenix 2nd colossus on the way for Bails 3rd CC finishing up for Fenix armory for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix 3rd colossus for Bails
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top left Bails spawns in the bottom right
1:40 rax first for Fenix gas for Fenix gateway for Bails
2:00 double gas for Bails reaper for Fenix cybernetics core for Bails
3:00 CC on the low ground for Fenix reactor for Fenix after the reaper finishes mothership core for Bails
4:00 reaper looking for proxies Nexus for Bails ebay for Fenix
5:00 bunker in he natural for Fenix reaper scouts the natural nexus Robo for Bails 2nd gateway for Bails 2 more rax for Fenix +1 attack started for Fenix reaper scouts the main of Bails again
6:00 another gas for Fenix observer for Bails Robotics bay for Bails stim research for Fenix
7:00 combat shields for Fenix 2 more gas for Bails Marauder production started for Fenix Factory for Fenix
8:00 Colossus production started for Bails forge for Bails Fenix moving across the map with a bio force marines take out a sentry and bait a photon overcharge before backing off Extended thermal lance research started for Bails +1 armor started for Fenix starport for Fenix
9:00 +1 attack started for Bails 2 more gates for Bails concussive shells for Fenix 2 more rax for Fenix Fenix scans the main of Bails and is denied from the natural by a colossus
10:00 2 more gates for Bails double medivac production started for Fenix 2nd colossus on the way for Bails 3rd CC finishing up for Fenix armory for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix 3rd colossus for Bails
11:00 2nd starport for Fenix Fenix moving across the map but part of his army is caught by forcefields Bails going for a counterattack double viking production started for Fenix
12:00 Supplies are even at 115 Fenix drops the natural of Bails Warp prism for Bails triple viking production for Fenix 4th colossus meets up with Bails' army Bails pushing up the natural ramp of Fenix Fenix pulls the scvs in his natural Fenix is crushed by lasers
13:00 Bails takes a 40 supply lead Fenix just ggs! Bails ties it up 1-1!
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top left Bails spawns in the bottom right
1:30 gas first for Fenix rax for Fenix gateway for Bails
2:00 double gas for Bails probe scout from Bails Bails sees the gas first
3:00 cybernetics core for Bails Factory for Fenix mothership core for Bails
4:00 widow mine for Fenix Starport for Fenix Nexus for Bails
5:00 Robo for Bails medivac for Fenix 2nd gate for Bails
6:00 CC on the low ground for Fenix 2 more rax for Fenix observer for Bails another gas for Fenix Robo bay for Bails widow mine marine drop in the main of Bails photon overcharge on the main nexus widow mines get 0 kills
7:00 Bails kills off the medivac before it can escape with the units Bails takes a 10 supply lead +1 attack started for Fenix bunker in the natural for Fenix
8:00 colossus production started for Bails combat shields for Fenix stim research for Fenix forge for Bails
9:00 2nd colossus for bails 2 more rax for Fenix +1 armor for Bails Bails hiding his colossus from the scv scout 2 more gates for Bails
10:00 armory for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix Extended thermal lance research started for Bails 3rd colossus for Bails +1 armor for Fenix another gate for Bails +2 attack started for Fenix
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top left Bails spawns in the bottom right
1:30 gas first for Fenix rax for Fenix gateway for Bails
2:00 double gas for Bails probe scout from Bails Bails sees the gas first
3:00 cybernetics core for Bails Factory for Fenix mothership core for Bails
4:00 widow mine for Fenix Starport for Fenix Nexus for Bails
5:00 Robo for Bails medivac for Fenix 2nd gate for Bails
6:00 CC on the low ground for Fenix 2 more rax for Fenix observer for Bails another gas for Fenix Robo bay for Bails widow mine marine drop in the main of Bails photon overcharge on the main nexus widow mines get 0 kills
7:00 Bails kills off the medivac before it can escape with the units Bails takes a 10 supply lead +1 attack started for Fenix bunker in the natural for Fenix
8:00 colossus production started for Bails combat shields for Fenix stim research for Fenix forge for Bails
9:00 2nd colossus for bails 2 more rax for Fenix +1 armor for Bails Bails hiding his colossus from the scv scout 2 more gates for Bails
10:00 armory for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix Extended thermal lance research started for Bails 3rd colossus for Bails +1 armor for Fenix another gate for Bails +2 attack started for Fenix
11:00 scan sees 2 colossi of Bails in the natural double viking production started for Fenix +1 attack started for Bails concussive shells for Fenix 2nd forge for Bails twilight council for Bails
12:00 3rd CC for Fenix immortal production started for Bails +1 ship weapons started for Fenix 2nd starport for Fenix blink research started for Bails +2 armor started for Bails
13:00 3rd base for bails +2 armor for Fenix drop at the 3rd of Bails Bails is able to save it
14:00 Templar archives for Bails 2 more gates for bails +3 attack for Fenix +2 attack started for Bails
15:00 feedback kills the medivac of Fenix behind the natural of Bails charge research started for Bails Bails adding in archons Fenix pulling some scvs and moving to the 3rd of Bails +3 armor started for Bails
0:00 Fenix spawns in the top left Bails spawns in the bottom right
1:30 gas first for Fenix rax for Fenix gateway for Bails
2:00 double gas for Bails probe scout from Bails Bails sees the gas first
3:00 cybernetics core for Bails Factory for Fenix mothership core for Bails
4:00 widow mine for Fenix Starport for Fenix Nexus for Bails
5:00 Robo for Bails medivac for Fenix 2nd gate for Bails
6:00 CC on the low ground for Fenix 2 more rax for Fenix observer for Bails another gas for Fenix Robo bay for Bails widow mine marine drop in the main of Bails photon overcharge on the main nexus widow mines get 0 kills
7:00 Bails kills off the medivac before it can escape with the units Bails takes a 10 supply lead +1 attack started for Fenix bunker in the natural for Fenix
8:00 colossus production started for Bails combat shields for Fenix stim research for Fenix forge for Bails
9:00 2nd colossus for bails 2 more rax for Fenix +1 armor for Bails Bails hiding his colossus from the scv scout 2 more gates for Bails
10:00 armory for Fenix 2nd ebay for Fenix Extended thermal lance research started for Bails 3rd colossus for Bails +1 armor for Fenix another gate for Bails +2 attack started for Fenix
11:00 scan sees 2 colossi of Bails in the natural double viking production started for Fenix +1 attack started for Bails concussive shells for Fenix 2nd forge for Bails twilight council for Bails
12:00 3rd CC for Fenix immortal production started for Bails +1 ship weapons started for Fenix 2nd starport for Fenix blink research started for Bails +2 armor started for Bails
13:00 3rd base for bails +2 armor for Fenix drop at the 3rd of Bails Bails is able to save it
14:00 Templar archives for Bails 2 more gates for bails +3 attack for Fenix +2 attack started for Bails
15:00 feedback kills the medivac of Fenix behind the natural of Bails charge research started for Bails Bails adding in archons Fenix pulling some scvs and moving to the 3rd of Bails +3 armor started for Bails
16:00 Bails sacks his 3rd base quadruple viking production for Fenix Bails starts a new base in the center right area +3 armor for Fenix Fenix scouts the new nexus of Bails Bails remaking his 3rd
17:00 2 marines and a marauder harassing the building 3rd of Bails Fenix is 20 supply ahead 3 more rax for Fenix 4th CC started for Fenix small bio force forces a cancel on the 3rd main army of Fenix forces a cancel on the 4th ghost academy for Fenix
18:00 +2 ship weapons for Fenix 3rd base restarted for Bails Bails moving out across the map drop in the natural of Bails photon overcharge on the natural nexus Bails attacking into the natural of Fenix Fenix pulls his scvs large concave for Fenix vikings taking out the colossi
19:00 Bails is falling below 100 supply the army of Bails is cleaned up Bails ggs! Fenix wins the match 2-1!
On May 14 2013 09:32 Wombat_NI wrote: If you want to emulate anyone, emulate Rain. Pretty hard though! :p He's kind of like my new Creator, really solid builds that are pretty copyable (albeit at a lower standard)
Yeah-- I was about to compare him to Rain but decided that would be maybe too much based off one game. But yeah, I love Rain for his builds. But two unfortunate things are: I never get to see him play since most korean games are way late at night for me. And he's almost too good. Like as a low-mid masters player, I can see myself copying Bails' play. Like it's at the level for me where there's a few things I can take from his play that would improve my own play that seem feasible. Where when I watch Rain, he just seems to do everything so well that it's overwhelming.
I really wish I could see more games from Rain, though. He is such a boss.
0:00 ViBE spawns in the top right Sage spawns in the bottom left
1:50 forge first for Sage 2 probe scouts from Sage
2:00 Hatch first for ViBE Sage scouts ViBE's hatch first cannon rush initiated pool for Vibe Sage walls off behind the natural
3:00 cannon building behind the natural mineral line ViBE cancels the natural hatch pylon block at the 3rd base location of ViBE ViBE takes a hatch in the center right Nexus for Sage
4:00 gateway for Sage proxy hatch in the main of Sage Sage scouts the proxy hatch gas for Sage Vibe clears the pylon at his satellite base
5:00 2nd gas for Sage 3rd base for ViBE at the standard 3rd cannon started in the main of Sage right next to the building proxy hatch zealot for Sage gas for ViBE proxy hatch is canceled cannon in the main is canceled Cybernetics core for Sage
0:00 ViBE spawns in the top right Sage spawns in the bottom left
1:50 forge first for Sage 2 probe scouts from Sage
2:00 Hatch first for ViBE Sage scouts ViBE's hatch first cannon rush initiated pool for Vibe Sage walls off behind the natural
3:00 cannon building behind the natural mineral line ViBE cancels the natural hatch pylon block at the 3rd base location of ViBE ViBE takes a hatch in the center right Nexus for Sage
4:00 gateway for Sage proxy hatch in the main of Sage Sage scouts the proxy hatch gas for Sage Vibe clears the pylon at his satellite base
5:00 2nd gas for Sage 3rd base for ViBE at the standard 3rd cannon started in the main of Sage right next to the building proxy hatch zealot for Sage gas for ViBE proxy hatch is canceled cannon in the main is canceled Cybernetics core for Sage
6:00 Cannon rush initiated at the 3rd of ViBE 3rd hatch finishes and sees the cannons building 4 lings start attacking the building cannons ling speed for ViBE Sage loses the first cannon and cancels the 2nd
7:00 Stargate for Sage Roach warren for ViBE 3rd gas for Sage another gas for ViBE +1 attack for Sage 2 zealots harassing the 3rd of ViBE stalker meets up to keep the harass up
8:00 phoenix production started for Sage ViBE starting roach production 2 more gates for Sage lings and roaches on the way for Vibe
9:00 Void ray on the way for Sage 2nd cannon for Sage after seeing roaches Robo for Sage 32 lings on the way for VIBE Artosis pylon for Sage ViBE kills it the void ray doesnt finish lings and roaches getting into the naturla of Sage lings kill the sentries
10:00 Cannons of Sages are falling Void ray is out mothership core is out more and more lings pouring in Sage ggs! ViBE wins game 1! Artosis credited with an assist
That was really really sloppy. He had a forge, a gateway, a cybercore, a robo facility, a stargate, and 2 cannons all dependent on 1 pylon. He'll be kicking himself now over this mistake.
Crazy game though, really wacky, but I really wish it didn't end like this :\
0:00 ViBE spawns in the top left Sage spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for ViBE Nexus first for Sage hatch for ViBE forge for Sage
3:00 gateway for Sage cannon for Sage 3rd base for Vibe
4:00 double gas for Sage Cybernetics core for Sage ling finds a sweet spot out of cannon range to hit the forge of Sage
5:00 +1 attack started for Sage gas for Vibe Stargate for Sage
6:00 3 more gates for Sage Roach warren for Vibe overlord flies into the main of Sage and sees the stargate phoenix production started for Sage Lair for Vibe
7:00 another gas for Vibe proxy pylon going up at the top of the map ling speed started for Vibe
8:00 zealots being warped in evo chamber for Vibe roaches started for Vibe as +1 zealots move into his natural spores started for Vibe
9:00 zealots harassing the natural and 3rd mineral line spores being killed by zealots Vibe cleans up the zealots Hydralisk den for Vibe
10:00 +1 range attack for Vibe void ray for Sage 2 more zealots run into the 3rd of Vibe 3rd base for Sage Sage breaks down the rocks to protect his 3rd Roach speed for Vibe hydra range for Vibe Robo bay for Sage
0:00 ViBE spawns in the top left Sage spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for ViBE Nexus first for Sage hatch for ViBE forge for Sage
3:00 gateway for Sage cannon for Sage 3rd base for Vibe
4:00 double gas for Sage Cybernetics core for Sage ling finds a sweet spot out of cannon range to hit the forge of Sage
5:00 +1 attack started for Sage gas for Vibe Stargate for Sage
6:00 3 more gates for Sage Roach warren for Vibe overlord flies into the main of Sage and sees the stargate phoenix production started for Sage Lair for Vibe
7:00 another gas for Vibe proxy pylon going up at the top of the map ling speed started for Vibe
8:00 zealots being warped in evo chamber for Vibe roaches started for Vibe as +1 zealots move into his natural spores started for Vibe
9:00 zealots harassing the natural and 3rd mineral line spores being killed by zealots Vibe cleans up the zealots Hydralisk den for Vibe
10:00 +1 range attack for Vibe void ray for Sage 2 more zealots run into the 3rd of Vibe 3rd base for Sage Sage breaks down the rocks to protect his 3rd Roach speed for Vibe hydra range for Vibe Robo bay for Sage
11:00 mothership core for Sage more zealots in the 3rd mineral line of Vibe immortal started for Sage 19 workers have been killed by Sage now
12:00 Hydra speed started for Vibe infestation pit for Vibe twilight council for Sage colossus production started for Sage Extended thermal lance research started for Sage +2 range attacks started for Vibe
13:00 +2 attack started for Sage blink research started for Sage 2 more gates for Sage Swarm hosts started for Vibe Void ray for Sage roach hydra pressure at the natural of Sage forge of Sage is killed
14:00 5 gates on the way for Sage Vibe escapes with most of his army more swarm hosts on the way forge restarted for Sage 2nd forge for Sage 4th base for Vibe more gateways for Sage
15:00 spores started in the middle of the map for Vibe enduring locusts research started for Vibe dark shrine for Sage Hive for Vibe Sage moving out on the map
0:00 ViBE spawns in the top left Sage spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for ViBE Nexus first for Sage hatch for ViBE forge for Sage
3:00 gateway for Sage cannon for Sage 3rd base for Vibe
4:00 double gas for Sage Cybernetics core for Sage ling finds a sweet spot out of cannon range to hit the forge of Sage
5:00 +1 attack started for Sage gas for Vibe Stargate for Sage
6:00 3 more gates for Sage Roach warren for Vibe overlord flies into the main of Sage and sees the stargate phoenix production started for Sage Lair for Vibe
7:00 another gas for Vibe proxy pylon going up at the top of the map ling speed started for Vibe
8:00 zealots being warped in evo chamber for Vibe roaches started for Vibe as +1 zealots move into his natural spores started for Vibe
9:00 zealots harassing the natural and 3rd mineral line spores being killed by zealots Vibe cleans up the zealots Hydralisk den for Vibe
10:00 +1 range attack for Vibe void ray for Sage 2 more zealots run into the 3rd of Vibe 3rd base for Sage Sage breaks down the rocks to protect his 3rd Roach speed for Vibe hydra range for Vibe Robo bay for Sage
11:00 mothership core for Sage more zealots in the 3rd mineral line of Vibe immortal started for Sage 19 workers have been killed by Sage now
12:00 Hydra speed started for Vibe infestation pit for Vibe twilight council for Sage colossus production started for Sage Extended thermal lance research started for Sage +2 range attacks started for Vibe
13:00 +2 attack started for Sage blink research started for Sage 2 more gates for Sage Swarm hosts started for Vibe Void ray for Sage roach hydra pressure at the natural of Sage forge of Sage is killed
14:00 5 gates on the way for Sage Vibe escapes with most of his army more swarm hosts on the way forge restarted for Sage 2nd forge for Sage 4th base for Vibe more gateways for Sage
15:00 spores started in the middle of the map for Vibe enduring locusts research started for Vibe dark shrine for Sage Hive for Vibe Sage moving out on the map
16:00 Sage trying to push into the swarm hosts spores force the air units back +2 attack on the way again for Sage Sage backs off and repositions warp prism for Sage
17:00 more swarm hosts on the way for Vibe observer of Sage is killed Sage still pushing the attack spores hitting the void rays and killing them observer meets up with the army of Sage Sage is starting to hit the swarm hosts Vibe unburrows the swarmhosts and retreats spores kill the observer
18:00 Sage tries to push up the natural ramp stalkers attack the 3rd of Vibe 3 DTs walk into the 4th of Vibe 3rd base of Vibe is killed by stalkers and the stalkers blink out DTs kill all the drones at the 4th of Vibe vipers started for Vibe
19:00 +3 attack started for Sage 4th base of Vibe is killed large zealot warp in in the main of Vibe zealots kill the Hive main army of Sage breaking down the rocks to the 4th of Vibe Vibe rebuilding his 4th 4th is killed instantly
20:00 Lair restarted for Vibe Vibe down to 1 hatch abduct on the colossi Vibe still has a 30 suppl ylead timewarp on the lusts 4th base for Sage Vibe rebuilding 2 hatcheries another zealot warp in in the main of Fibe Roaches go back into the main and clean up the zealots Vibe doesnt notice the DT in his main Sage forcefields the main ramp of Vibe
0:00 ViBE spawns in the top left Sage spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for ViBE Nexus first for Sage hatch for ViBE forge for Sage
3:00 gateway for Sage cannon for Sage 3rd base for Vibe
4:00 double gas for Sage Cybernetics core for Sage ling finds a sweet spot out of cannon range to hit the forge of Sage
5:00 +1 attack started for Sage gas for Vibe Stargate for Sage
6:00 3 more gates for Sage Roach warren for Vibe overlord flies into the main of Sage and sees the stargate phoenix production started for Sage Lair for Vibe
7:00 another gas for Vibe proxy pylon going up at the top of the map ling speed started for Vibe
8:00 zealots being warped in evo chamber for Vibe roaches started for Vibe as +1 zealots move into his natural spores started for Vibe
9:00 zealots harassing the natural and 3rd mineral line spores being killed by zealots Vibe cleans up the zealots Hydralisk den for Vibe
10:00 +1 range attack for Vibe void ray for Sage 2 more zealots run into the 3rd of Vibe 3rd base for Sage Sage breaks down the rocks to protect his 3rd Roach speed for Vibe hydra range for Vibe Robo bay for Sage
11:00 mothership core for Sage more zealots in the 3rd mineral line of Vibe immortal started for Sage 19 workers have been killed by Sage now
12:00 Hydra speed started for Vibe infestation pit for Vibe twilight council for Sage colossus production started for Sage Extended thermal lance research started for Sage +2 range attacks started for Vibe
13:00 +2 attack started for Sage blink research started for Sage 2 more gates for Sage Swarm hosts started for Vibe Void ray for Sage roach hydra pressure at the natural of Sage forge of Sage is killed
14:00 5 gates on the way for Sage Vibe escapes with most of his army more swarm hosts on the way forge restarted for Sage 2nd forge for Sage 4th base for Vibe more gateways for Sage
15:00 spores started in the middle of the map for Vibe enduring locusts research started for Vibe dark shrine for Sage Hive for Vibe Sage moving out on the map
16:00 Sage trying to push into the swarm hosts spores force the air units back +2 attack on the way again for Sage Sage backs off and repositions warp prism for Sage
17:00 more swarm hosts on the way for Vibe observer of Sage is killed Sage still pushing the attack spores hitting the void rays and killing them observer meets up with the army of Sage Sage is starting to hit the swarm hosts Vibe unburrows the swarmhosts and retreats spores kill the observer
18:00 Sage tries to push up the natural ramp stalkers attack the 3rd of Vibe 3 DTs walk into the 4th of Vibe 3rd base of Vibe is killed by stalkers and the stalkers blink out DTs kill all the drones at the 4th of Vibe vipers started for Vibe
19:00 +3 attack started for Sage 4th base of Vibe is killed large zealot warp in in the main of Vibe zealots kill the Hive main army of Sage breaking down the rocks to the 4th of Vibe Vibe rebuilding his 4th 4th is killed instantly
20:00 Lair restarted for Vibe Vibe down to 1 hatch abduct on the colossi Vibe still has a 30 suppl ylead timewarp on the lusts 4th base for Sage Vibe rebuilding 2 hatcheries another zealot warp in in the main of Fibe Roaches go back into the main and clean up the zealots Vibe doesnt notice the DT in his main Sage forcefields the main ramp of Vibe
21:00 pool rebuilding for Vibe Sage has evened up the supply count now DT still harassing in the main of Vibe abduct on a colossus and killed
22:00 Hive started for ViBe DT in the main finally killed locusts starting to push back the army of Sage another colossus is killed after an abduct
23:00 another large zealot/dt warp in in the main of Vibe 2nd robo for Sage Templar archives for Sage units in the main of Vibe are cleaned up
24:00 Viper production restarted for Vibe warp prism of Sage is finally killed 4th base restarted for Vibe but killed by stalkers storm research started for Sage
25:00 Sage blinks forward on the swarm hosts between locust spawns blinding cloud all over the stalkers to save the swarm hosts +3 range attack for Vibe 5th base for Sage
0:00 ViBE spawns in the top left Sage spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for ViBE Nexus first for Sage hatch for ViBE forge for Sage
3:00 gateway for Sage cannon for Sage 3rd base for Vibe
4:00 double gas for Sage Cybernetics core for Sage ling finds a sweet spot out of cannon range to hit the forge of Sage
5:00 +1 attack started for Sage gas for Vibe Stargate for Sage
6:00 3 more gates for Sage Roach warren for Vibe overlord flies into the main of Sage and sees the stargate phoenix production started for Sage Lair for Vibe
7:00 another gas for Vibe proxy pylon going up at the top of the map ling speed started for Vibe
8:00 zealots being warped in evo chamber for Vibe roaches started for Vibe as +1 zealots move into his natural spores started for Vibe
9:00 zealots harassing the natural and 3rd mineral line spores being killed by zealots Vibe cleans up the zealots Hydralisk den for Vibe
10:00 +1 range attack for Vibe void ray for Sage 2 more zealots run into the 3rd of Vibe 3rd base for Sage Sage breaks down the rocks to protect his 3rd Roach speed for Vibe hydra range for Vibe Robo bay for Sage
11:00 mothership core for Sage more zealots in the 3rd mineral line of Vibe immortal started for Sage 19 workers have been killed by Sage now
12:00 Hydra speed started for Vibe infestation pit for Vibe twilight council for Sage colossus production started for Sage Extended thermal lance research started for Sage +2 range attacks started for Vibe
13:00 +2 attack started for Sage blink research started for Sage 2 more gates for Sage Swarm hosts started for Vibe Void ray for Sage roach hydra pressure at the natural of Sage forge of Sage is killed
14:00 5 gates on the way for Sage Vibe escapes with most of his army more swarm hosts on the way forge restarted for Sage 2nd forge for Sage 4th base for Vibe more gateways for Sage
15:00 spores started in the middle of the map for Vibe enduring locusts research started for Vibe dark shrine for Sage Hive for Vibe Sage moving out on the map
16:00 Sage trying to push into the swarm hosts spores force the air units back +2 attack on the way again for Sage Sage backs off and repositions warp prism for Sage
17:00 more swarm hosts on the way for Vibe observer of Sage is killed Sage still pushing the attack spores hitting the void rays and killing them observer meets up with the army of Sage Sage is starting to hit the swarm hosts Vibe unburrows the swarmhosts and retreats spores kill the observer
18:00 Sage tries to push up the natural ramp stalkers attack the 3rd of Vibe 3 DTs walk into the 4th of Vibe 3rd base of Vibe is killed by stalkers and the stalkers blink out DTs kill all the drones at the 4th of Vibe vipers started for Vibe
19:00 +3 attack started for Sage 4th base of Vibe is killed large zealot warp in in the main of Vibe zealots kill the Hive main army of Sage breaking down the rocks to the 4th of Vibe Vibe rebuilding his 4th 4th is killed instantly
20:00 Lair restarted for Vibe Vibe down to 1 hatch abduct on the colossi Vibe still has a 30 suppl ylead timewarp on the lusts 4th base for Sage Vibe rebuilding 2 hatcheries another zealot warp in in the main of Fibe Roaches go back into the main and clean up the zealots Vibe doesnt notice the DT in his main Sage forcefields the main ramp of Vibe
21:00 pool rebuilding for Vibe Sage has evened up the supply count now DT still harassing in the main of Vibe abduct on a colossus and killed
22:00 Hive started for ViBe DT in the main finally killed locusts starting to push back the army of Sage another colossus is killed after an abduct
23:00 another large zealot/dt warp in in the main of Vibe 2nd robo for Sage Templar archives for Sage units in the main of Vibe are cleaned up
24:00 Viper production restarted for Vibe warp prism of Sage is finally killed 4th base restarted for Vibe but killed by stalkers storm research started for Sage
25:00 Sage blinks forward on the swarm hosts between locust spawns blinding cloud all over the stalkers to save the swarm hosts +3 range attack for Vibe 5th base for Sage
26:00 double colossus production for Sage pathogen glands for Vibe 4th base restarted for Vibe Vibe distance mining from his 4th zealot runby to the 4th of Vibe is denied
27:00 Sage is maxed vs 165 supply infestor production started for Vibe 6th base for Sage Sage pushes into the 4th of Vibe timewarp on the locusts 4th base of Vibe is canceled swarm hosts reposition fungal on the stalkers of Sage storm on the swarm hosts and locusts
28:00 Sage up 50 supply Colossi starting to kill swarm hosts Swarm hosts shrieking horrible death noises archons join the fray ViBE ggs! Sage ties it up 1-1!
Swarm hosts worry me. I'm afraid they might become the Broodlords of HotS. After all, most people had no issues with Broodlord deathballs until that damn queen patch.
Makes me worry that while HotS is in a pretty good place balance-wise, we might be 1 or 2 patches away from OP swarmhost deathballs.
On May 14 2013 10:37 GTPGlitch wrote: This is why free units are dumb...
so people always complain about free units, but it's swarm hosts' attack range and high dps that gives them the power. the attacking components of normal units are actually better than "free units" in that they have unlimited hit points. consider marines, for example. their shots always register and there is no way to stop this attacking component by killing it... same for tanks...... it's just that swarm hosts have longer range and higher damage output...... otherwise the fact that the loci have hp makes the swamr hosts less powerful......
I really don't know why I see so much whining about swarm hosts when all they seem to do is create a long and intense micro battles and still usually the guy with SHs loses. Yet every time locusts kill units without losses someone will cry out about free units blah blah blah.
On May 14 2013 10:37 GTPGlitch wrote: This is why free units are dumb...
so people always complain about free units, but it's swarm hosts' attack range and high dps that gives them the power. the attacking components of normal units are actually better than "free units" in that they have unlimited hit points. consider marines, for example. their shots always register and there is no way to stop this attacking component by killing it... same for tanks...... it's just that swarm hosts have longer range and higher damage output...... otherwise the fact that the loci have hp makes the swamr hosts less powerful......
The only argument people have against so called "free units" compared to the damage a tank does for example, is that they block pathing, which is not a big issue against both Colossi and Blink Stalkers.
Otherwise SH are like siege tanks with longer range, with the down side that you can completely avoid the damage they do by killing their attack as it travels slowly to the target. It's like whining that tanks have free attacks.
0:00 ViBE spawns in the top left Sage spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for Vibe Nexus first for Sage Sage loses the probe he was blocking the natural with hatch for Vibe
3:00 forge for Sage gas for Vibe gateway for Sage cannon for Sage double gas for Sage
4:00 cybernetics core for Sage ling speed for Vibe
5:00 +1 attack started for Sage Roach warren for Vibe scouting probe denied 3rd base for Vibe
6:00 Stargate for Sage 3rd gas for Sage Roaches for Vibe
7:00 Vibe following up with a bunch of lings 3 more gates for Sage phoenixes being built for Sage Lair started for Vibe evo chamber for Vibe phoenix starts killing overlords Robo for Sage
8:00 Vibe starts the attack forcefield blocks the lings cannon falls lings break through the wall the units of Sage are falling Vibe runs into the main Void ray on the way for Sage +1 missile attacks for Vibe
9:00 lings and roaches targeting down the main nexus spores going up for Vibe at home Vibe droning up hard Vibe up 65 to 36 supply the main nexus os Sage falls Hydralisk den for Vibe Sage finally cleans up the lings in his main
10:00 2 zealot runby into the 3rd of Vibe Vibe cleans it up Robo bay for Sage phoenixes harassing in the main of Vibe hydra range for Vibe Vibe sending his units across the map
0:00 ViBE spawns in the top left Sage spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for Vibe Nexus first for Sage Sage loses the probe he was blocking the natural with hatch for Vibe
3:00 forge for Sage gas for Vibe gateway for Sage cannon for Sage double gas for Sage
4:00 cybernetics core for Sage ling speed for Vibe
5:00 +1 attack started for Sage Roach warren for Vibe scouting probe denied 3rd base for Vibe
6:00 Stargate for Sage 3rd gas for Sage Roaches for Vibe
7:00 Vibe following up with a bunch of lings 3 more gates for Sage phoenixes being built for Sage Lair started for Vibe evo chamber for Vibe phoenix starts killing overlords Robo for Sage
8:00 Vibe starts the attack forcefield blocks the lings cannon falls lings break through the wall the units of Sage are falling Vibe runs into the main Void ray on the way for Sage +1 missile attacks for Vibe
9:00 lings and roaches targeting down the main nexus spores going up for Vibe at home Vibe droning up hard Vibe up 65 to 36 supply the main nexus os Sage falls Hydralisk den for Vibe Sage finally cleans up the lings in his main
10:00 2 zealot runby into the 3rd of Vibe Vibe cleans it up Robo bay for Sage phoenixes harassing in the main of Vibe hydra range for Vibe Vibe sending his units across the map
11:00 Roach speed for Vibe +2 range attack for Vibe main nexus rebuilding for Sage Colossus production started for Sage Void ray and mothership core chase back the roaches of Sage from his natural
12:00 Hydra speed for Vibe overseer scouts the main being rebuild for Sage creep block at the potential 3rd of Sage from an overlord 4th base for vibe
13:00 Vibe making lings and hydras 2nd colossus on the way for Sage Extended thermal lance research started for Sage Spire for Vibe
14:00 another void ray started for Sage Sage loses all of his phoenixes to hydras +1 carapace started for Sage Sage destroying a gateway to get out of his natural infestation pit started for Vibe
15:00 13 corruptors started for Vibe 3rd base started for Sage Hive for Vibe
0:00 ViBE spawns in the top left Sage spawns in the bottom right
2:00 pool first for Vibe Nexus first for Sage Sage loses the probe he was blocking the natural with hatch for Vibe
3:00 forge for Sage gas for Vibe gateway for Sage cannon for Sage double gas for Sage
4:00 cybernetics core for Sage ling speed for Vibe
5:00 +1 attack started for Sage Roach warren for Vibe scouting probe denied 3rd base for Vibe
6:00 Stargate for Sage 3rd gas for Sage Roaches for Vibe
7:00 Vibe following up with a bunch of lings 3 more gates for Sage phoenixes being built for Sage Lair started for Vibe evo chamber for Vibe phoenix starts killing overlords Robo for Sage
8:00 Vibe starts the attack forcefield blocks the lings cannon falls lings break through the wall the units of Sage are falling Vibe runs into the main Void ray on the way for Sage +1 missile attacks for Vibe
9:00 lings and roaches targeting down the main nexus spores going up for Vibe at home Vibe droning up hard Vibe up 65 to 36 supply the main nexus os Sage falls Hydralisk den for Vibe Sage finally cleans up the lings in his main
10:00 2 zealot runby into the 3rd of Vibe Vibe cleans it up Robo bay for Sage phoenixes harassing in the main of Vibe hydra range for Vibe Vibe sending his units across the map
11:00 Roach speed for Vibe +2 range attack for Vibe main nexus rebuilding for Sage Colossus production started for Sage Void ray and mothership core chase back the roaches of Sage from his natural
12:00 Hydra speed for Vibe overseer scouts the main being rebuild for Sage creep block at the potential 3rd of Sage from an overlord 4th base for vibe
13:00 Vibe making lings and hydras 2nd colossus on the way for Sage Extended thermal lance research started for Sage Spire for Vibe
14:00 another void ray started for Sage Sage loses all of his phoenixes to hydras +1 carapace started for Sage Sage destroying a gateway to get out of his natural infestation pit started for Vibe
15:00 13 corruptors started for Vibe 3rd base started for Sage Hive for Vibe
16:00 overlord speed for Vibe +1 flier attack for vibe Vibe goes in for an attack as his corruptors spawn Vibe easily rolls the tiny army of Sage Sage ggs! ViBE wins 2-1!
I wanted Sage to win, but I'm glad that foreigners aren't afraid to win anymore. It doesn't make the most interesting games but it's time we started seeing more competition.
Two really good Koreans knocked out from WCS NA. I am pleasantly surprised, didn't expect this, especially in the very first season! Great job Vibe and Theognis!
Fallen Premier vs Qualified Challengers Maker vs Demuslim Illusion vs Macsed Minigun vs Ian KiLLeR vs Top The fallen premier players are currently 4-0.
Poll: How will the fallen Premier division players do tomorrow?
1-3 (12)
50%
2-2 (7)
29%
0-4 (3)
13%
3-1 (1)
4%
4-0 (1)
4%
24 total votes
Your vote: How will the fallen Premier division players do tomorrow?
On May 14 2013 11:05 MrCash wrote: Two really good Koreans knocked out from WCS NA. I am pleasantly surprised, didn't expect this, especially in the very first season! Great job Vibe and Theognis!
they arent knocked out, they go to the up & matches first so they have a chance still
On May 14 2013 11:27 mango_destroyer wrote: These stories would not exist if there was region lock!
True dat. Much better stories would exist than a weak JD falling so far from heaven and a Korean ROOT player being taken down by his ROOT teammate.
These were Premier Division players beating up on Contenders. It's to be expected...
If Sage and JD as contenders won their matches then people would say "it's expected, they are Korean!!!" even though their skill level is not even good enough to play in WCS NA Contender Division (as displayed today). If REAL NA Contenders or SEA/China Contenders were to win their matches vs Premier players then you'd have a story.
On May 14 2013 11:27 mango_destroyer wrote: These stories would not exist if there was region lock!
True dat. Much better stories would exist than a weak JD falling so far from heaven and a Korean ROOT player being taken down by his ROOT teammate.
These were Premier Division players beating up on Contenders. It's to be expected...
If Sage and JD as contenders won their matches then people would say "it's expected, they are Korean!!!" even though their skill level is not even good enough to play in WCS NA Contender Division (as displayed today). If REAL NA Contenders or SEA/China Contenders were to win their matches vs Premier players then you'd have a story.
Wow, this is one of the worst posts I've read on TL
Yeah, Jaedong's skill level isn't high enough to compete with theognis, this one bo3 cross server proves it.
USA holds... Good job boys. Now lets go Demuslim, he's not been destroying the ladder quite as much recently but hopefully he'll play decently this evening.
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Bails spawns in the top left
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