this, not to take anything away from theognis' play though. I just don't understand why roach+hydras first game with no banes if he got late vipers then now, that ultras burrow and hesitation at this third causing him to lose it etc... I feel like he's worried about widow mines a lot lol so he's too cautious and allowed theognis to do what he wished

suicideyear

Ivory Coast3016 Posts

May 13 2013 23:05 GMT

#163

On May 14 2013 08:05 xajukx wrote:

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What is his second chance?

up&downs at season end

FrostedMiniWheats

United States30730 Posts

May 13 2013 23:06 GMT

#164

On May 14 2013 08:05 xajukx wrote:

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What is his second chance?

iirc losers in the first round go to the WCS NA version of the up/down instead of dropping out completely like in Korea

Waxangel

United States33479 Posts

May 13 2013 23:06 GMT

#165

Round 1 losers still get to play in the Up/Downs ;o

elfonse

416 Posts

May 13 2013 23:06 GMT

#166

You get a second chance when you get knocked out in the first round of challenger?

Zenbrez

Canada5973 Posts

May 13 2013 23:06 GMT

#167

On May 14 2013 08:02 Swords wrote:
Seriously though, not using those 4 infestors to destroy Theognis's entire economy was really dumb by JD.

Theognis played so well though! Great games.

JD lost the game long before that.

BigFan

TLADT24920 Posts

May 13 2013 23:06 GMT

#168

On May 14 2013 08:06 elfonse wrote:
You get a second chance when you get knocked out in the first round of challenger?

ya, different from GSL format I guess.

stfouri

Finland272 Posts

May 13 2013 23:07 GMT

#169

Team EG on fire!
Gj theognis.

heartagram

178 Posts

May 13 2013 23:07 GMT

#170

Jaedong's mechanics among the best, but SC2 just doesn't seem like it's clicking for him. It kind of makes me wonder what kind of player he'd have ended up being if he had stayed on T8.

WP by Theognis regardless.

Go Major!

Swords

6038 Posts

May 13 2013 23:07 GMT

#171

On May 14 2013 08:04 Ribbon wrote:
Congrats to Jaedong, the first Korean to get eliminated from WCS America.

Welcome to freedom, Jaedong.

He's not actually eliminated, right? Doesn't he end up in the WCS AM equivalent of Up & Downs because the system is kind of dumb?

iLevitate

United States225 Posts

May 13 2013 23:07 GMT

#172

usa usa usa!
joke aside, theo played well!!!!

Swords

6038 Posts

May 13 2013 23:09 GMT

#173

On May 14 2013 08:06 Zenbrez wrote:

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JD lost the game long before that.

No doubt, but in terms of making a comeback taking out the economy at that point would've been way more valuable than a good trade with the opponent's army.

Yhamm

France7248 Posts

May 13 2013 23:09 GMT

#174

the USA USA from axeltoss is a too much imo... what's this nationalism from commentators?

LaLuSh

Sweden2358 Posts

May 13 2013 23:10 GMT

#175


                                        Importance Scale

Micro/engagements                                                           Macro/Management
| - - WC3 - - - - - - - - SC2 - - - - - - - - - | - - - - - - - - - - - - - BW - - - - - - |

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

May 13 2013 23:10 GMT

#176

So what do you get from winning the first game? I mean if you lose you get U&D and if you win you have to play another round where if you lose you get U&D. I guess I just don't see the point of the system. I mean obviously if you win the whole thing you get in code S but still it seems like theres no real reward for winning first round, and likewise no consequence for losing

Tobon

United States372 Posts

May 13 2013 23:10 GMT

#177

On May 14 2013 08:07 Swords wrote:

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He's not actually eliminated, right? Doesn't he end up in the WCS AM equivalent of Up & Downs because the system is kind of dumb?

Yeah, only the 4th place person in the Up & Downs actually drops entirely out in AM and EU right now. So only 8 new spots in Challenger available each Season. I can see how this is reasonable with the relatively thinner ranks of pros in AM and EU, but it certainly feels weird after being used to GSL...

Mythal

Spain108 Posts

May 13 2013 23:10 GMT

#178

Great play by theognis!!

BTW in the second game, when JD had Ultra,infestor, queen, army.. That was when Theognis started dropping like a madman. What could have JD done against that? His army was pretty immobile, so why not make tons of spines/spores? (I'm P, I genuinely don't know if I'm super wrong)

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

May 13 2013 23:11 GMT

#179

WCS AM Challenger Division Ro40
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MajOr vs

Xenocider
Game 1
Map: Whirlwind

0:00

MajOr spawns in the bottom left

Xenocider spawns in the top right

Swords

6038 Posts

May 13 2013 23:11 GMT

#180

On May 14 2013 08:09 Yhamm wrote:
the USA USA from axeltoss is a too much imo... what's this nationalism from commentators?

Honestly, I found it pretty underwhelming.

Even without the nationalism stance, an America Terran with almost no major results beating Jaedong 2-0 is a big deal. There seemed to be barely any excitement at the end of either of those games.