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Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
May 13 2013 10:24 GMT
#361
On May 13 2013 19:22 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 19:21 paradoxOO9 wrote:
Would fast mutas work against this? If you hit before HT's I could see them doing a lot of damage

Some textbook muta corruptor (with the corruptors zoning out the phoenixes as per usual) could beat this potentially. So could a very well executed roach/hydra


or you just do what Revival did: use Ling-Roach aggression to take an early lead. And then not screw up the follow-up by attacking the most fortified position with Hydras but instead abuse the mobility Nydus gives you
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 10:34:42
May 13 2013 10:24 GMT
#362
I don't get these mid-game SH transitions, I really don't. They never work, you can't make that switch without a good amount of static def and casters to turtle behind. SHs take far too long to amass to critical numbers to be viable this early, it leaves a giant gaping hole in your build where your army is fucking terrible and the protoss can just walk in and curbstomp you.

SHs are great, in the late game, in high numbers. Anywhere else, they suck.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
May 13 2013 10:24 GMT
#363
On May 13 2013 19:23 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 19:18 Heartland wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:17 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:16 Heartland wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:14 EpiK wrote:
so, is snute considered the best in the european scene currently? I've heard a lot of hype about him but haven't seen any of his games..


No, I wouldn't say he is. He hasn't done anything big since Homestory I think.


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Ah, thanks! Still, I wouldn't say he's the no1 european.

LucifroN is probably the biggest contender for the title right now.

Snute isn't even a Top 3 European Zerg IMO. His ZvZ is Top 3 among foreigners (probably only matched by Sen and Scarlett) but his ZvP and ZvT have REALLY let him down at places like IEM.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 10:25:25
May 13 2013 10:24 GMT
#364
On May 13 2013 19:23 GTR wrote:
Amazing that free is still able to win games even at his age.

free lately on fire :D

foreigner? that's a "free win" ^^
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GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
May 13 2013 10:25 GMT
#365
Free had a greedy third could have punished him with hydra or roach attack
mmatahi
Profile Joined March 2011
France126 Posts
May 13 2013 10:25 GMT
#366
On May 13 2013 19:23 Cokefreak wrote:
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On May 13 2013 19:23 Laryleprakon wrote:
Please don't send another zerg.

Zenio please.



Zenio then Jaedong as last :D
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
May 13 2013 10:25 GMT
#367
On May 13 2013 19:23 Arceus wrote:
didnt someone claim that an european zerg could deal with free :p


"blushes and raises his arm"
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
May 13 2013 10:25 GMT
#368
On May 13 2013 19:24 HugzForL wrote:
I feel like he never had a chance... maybe a mass roaches timing before the voidray production kicks in could work?


Imagine a burrow roach timing, similair to what Leenock did vs terran in WoL (double roach warren). Would destroy that protoss build!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
May 13 2013 10:25 GMT
#369
On May 13 2013 19:24 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 19:23 Grovbolle wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:18 Heartland wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:17 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:16 Heartland wrote:
On May 13 2013 19:14 EpiK wrote:
so, is snute considered the best in the european scene currently? I've heard a lot of hype about him but haven't seen any of his games..


No, I wouldn't say he is. He hasn't done anything big since Homestory I think.


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and some other stuff...


Ah, thanks! Still, I wouldn't say he's the no1 european.

LucifroN is probably the biggest contender for the title right now.


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crashonly
Profile Joined June 2010
Finland418 Posts
May 13 2013 10:25 GMT
#370
On May 13 2013 19:23 Wombat_NI wrote:I hope somebody kills Free soon, or at least don't send out a Zerg. His style he's showing here is rather boring to watch


Couldn't agree more.. Protoss lazor shows are so shit from a spectator's point of view
SChlafmann
Profile Joined September 2011
France725 Posts
May 13 2013 10:25 GMT
#371
I don't get how this mass voidrays works. They are worst than what they were in WoL whereas hydra are better. Wtf is going on with this metagame?
"More GG, more skill" - Nope! Chuck Testa - #BISU2013
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
May 13 2013 10:25 GMT
#372
gogo Taeja allkill!
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
May 13 2013 10:25 GMT
#373
On May 13 2013 19:25 crashonly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 19:23 Wombat_NI wrote:I hope somebody kills Free soon, or at least don't send out a Zerg. His style he's showing here is rather boring to watch


Couldn't agree more.. Protoss lazor shows are so shit from a spectator's point of view

And storms, dont forget storms.
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Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
May 13 2013 10:26 GMT
#374
On May 13 2013 19:24 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2013 19:23 GTR wrote:
Amazing that free is still able to win games even at his age.


I don't get it :/

It's not a joke
SibChil
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden502 Posts
May 13 2013 10:26 GMT
#375
On May 13 2013 19:24 HugzForL wrote:
I feel like he never had a chance... maybe a mass roaches timing before the voidray production kicks in could work?


That's what revival did and even though he did damage it still put him behind. Eventually you need to deal with the flying damagedealers ground to ground attacks only go so far.
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
May 13 2013 10:26 GMT
#376
mimimimimimiind
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 13 2013 10:26 GMT
#377
On May 13 2013 19:25 SChlafmann wrote:
I don't get how this mass voidrays works. They are worst than what they were in WoL whereas hydra are better. Wtf is going on with this metagame?


Voidrays are better in hots then in wol O_O.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
May 13 2013 10:26 GMT
#378
They need a Terran on next or its gonna be an all-kill
Rainmansc
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands216 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 10:27:39
May 13 2013 10:26 GMT
#379
On May 13 2013 19:24 HugzForL wrote:
I feel like he never had a chance... maybe a mass roaches timing before the voidray production kicks in could work?

What? He lost almost all his infestors before they dropped their eggs. I think if he wouldve correctly spawned them, he couldve crushed free. Its not like snute was doing this build randomly, im sure he tested it out vs the type of play free is doing. Too bad the nerves probably got to him and wasnt watching his infestors or something.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
May 13 2013 10:26 GMT
#380
On May 13 2013 19:10 MHT wrote:
Free? Is he good?

One of the best protoss in broodwar especially in PvZ.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
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