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On May 09 2013 07:57 Jimz1469 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 07:50 albis wrote:
anyone ever think that this is his actual strategy, not to win games, but to create the most entertainment(hype,attention) and in turn money. if i could get paided to lose games, you bet your ass i would We'll see how his stream count does after this because it's been quiet low for em compared to his past history viewership.
It should be claer by now that Idar isn't doing an act. It's how he is.
I'm just glad to see that lately both Grubby and Demuslim have been getting more viewers than Idra. Two of the most likely guys in the community that deserves all the love in the world.
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On May 09 2013 07:50 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 07:49 mememolly wrote:On May 09 2013 07:48 Waxangel wrote:don't forget On May 08 2013 08:21 IdrA wrote:On May 08 2013 08:11 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On May 08 2013 07:20 IdrA wrote:
talk to your fellow viewers then. because they dont reward results, either for players or teams. code S koreans can stream and get less than 500 viewers. the community forgets about a big tournament win as soon as the next big tournament happens.
a business' purpose is to make money. winning is at best tangentially related to making money in this industry, solely because of what you and the rest of the community chooses to watch. and any company who tries to lead the charge in the direction you're asking for is gonna go out of business. we arent "abusing a competitive platform" we work in an entertainment industry and you guys are entertained by pandering, not competition. Idra, in an insight in why he behaves the way he does. I am sure he is a nice fellow, who is pained and crying inside by his enforced facade for entertainment whenever he streams. nope you're all a bunch of fucks it just so happens i get paid to treat you like it. it's fucking awesome. that's actually kind of sad, dude is full of hate so you're saying, he's like everyone else on the forums? IdrA confirmed to be... a person.
This mindset is going to backfire on him, I mean even in terms of viewership. He's created great drama, now use it and win! Entertainers working there way to the top will always outlast entertainers that are stuck at the bottom. He's throwing away incredible built up for this belief of his. People were drooling at the mouth to have the old Idra back and I guess will see if letting them down going back to his ways will really blow up his stream count..
Edit: And now that I think of it, his words aren't even entirely true. After Stephano's amazing runs his viewer count was out of the park every time he streamed, even with the diverse group I'm sure he gets having to bare through his country music. I remember how excited I was for Puma to stream when he won NASL but he just never did besides maybe once. It might not be everyone but there's tons of examples where people's viewer count blows up after a tournament win.
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On May 09 2013 07:58 Waxangel wrote:
Goswser true American
but he's millenium
i'm pretty sure he was traded for stephano, so now he's french
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wow idra so bad, he should just stop playing sc2
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I just hope next season that invite goes to somebody who actually wants to play in tournaments.
Not Idra.
edit: It's really not fair to other players who actually respect the game and respect competition.
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Idra being invited to this is a joke. People need to stop watching his stream so he gets the message.
I feel like people watch Idra because his play and personality are essentially a train-wreck, and those who enjoy watching him are really just wanting to listen to a troll do his thing instead of seeing some good starcraft.
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On May 09 2013 07:57 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 07:55 McBengt wrote:On May 09 2013 07:49 Wombat_NI wrote:Not a bash, but Idra's refusal to play the top Terrans on NA and quitting out of games consistently hardly prepared him well for facing Polt  Wombat man, I love you like a brother, and various other things, but you are being too nice. It's simply, 100% unprofessional, and I think most of us expected one of the longest running veterans in all of Esports to have a little more pride and dignity in his craft. I think his mentality is awful, I just don't wish to piss on a guy who's already lying in the gutter.
Well it depends on how we define gutter I guess. As results go, you are quite right, but if we look at earnings I'd wager Idra still does very well for himself.
I hope this doesn't come across as me gloating or revelling in schadenfreude, I am legitimately angry and disappointed.
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On May 09 2013 07:59 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 07:59 sitromit wrote:
How did Revival not see that all-in coming? Goswer his his lings in his main until he had a critical amount that 3 queens and 4 spines would never be able to hold.
He didn't need to scout to see that all-in coming is what I'm saying.
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On May 09 2013 07:57 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 07:55 McBengt wrote:On May 09 2013 07:49 Wombat_NI wrote:Not a bash, but Idra's refusal to play the top Terrans on NA and quitting out of games consistently hardly prepared him well for facing Polt Wombat man, I love you like a brother, and various other things, but you are being too nice. It's simply, 100% unprofessional, and I think most of us expected one of the longest running veterans in all of Esports to have a little more pride and dignity in his craft. I think his mentality is awful, I just don't wish to piss on a guy who's already lying in the gutter.
Fair enough, but I'll also gladly piss on someone who jumps in the gutter when he has no business being there.
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On May 09 2013 07:58 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 07:55 Nebuchad wrote:On May 09 2013 07:45 NovemberstOrm wrote:On May 09 2013 07:41 DOUDOU wrote:On May 09 2013 07:37 Benjamin99 wrote:On May 09 2013 07:35 IMMABEASTBRUH wrote:On May 09 2013 07:33 Dosey wrote:
Suppy:
Stays when he is all but dead, wins game in dramatic fashion.
Idra:
Looks surprisingly good throughout the entire game, aborts the moment a HSM hits his Broodlord at 200/200 max.
Stephano:
Plays progressively worse and worse as time goes on, calls his opponents bad and blames his "playing conditions"
YOUR EG REPRESENTATIVES EVERYONE! Stephano said this about Idra, or Stephano said this? Surprising - he's been very polite anytime I've ever watched him. He is full of shit he clearly dont like Stephano. Stephano never say bad about any player unless he is commentating "everyone knows he's kind of a dick" On May 09 2013 07:39 Flonomenalz wrote:On May 09 2013 07:36 DOUDOU wrote:On May 09 2013 07:31 nkr wrote:
sad part is he played so good , lol On May 09 2013 07:33 Ghanburighan wrote:
Yeah, ironic that IdrA played so much cleaner than most foreigners in that game. i must have missed that he played greedy, knowing polt doesn't attack in early game, that's all i can credit idra for He engaged very well, limited Polt to 4 bases, low bank, and had 5 bases with a 20 supply lead with full Hive tech, upgrades, and a terrifying army against just bio+mines and no transition in sight. It was textbook, perfect ZvT, till he just... collapsed. Sigh. he didn't engaged really well, he just had more stuff, because he went to 4 bases uncontested to comment on the person above to lazy to find his reply. Stephano during his wcs video interview(might have been in a private conversation with babyk) or w/e called babyk bad and he didnt deserve the win read about it here: https://twitter.com/NaViBabyKnight In which Nightend proves once again that he is one of the very few people I know who are undisputably awesome. Haha, he's quite smooth with the ladies.
If only he was a bit more consistent in SC2 >.>
Rotti so awesome.
Goswser showing Europe>Korea D:
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Can a zerg explain to me why revival didn't make a bling nest? He was going lair, but wouldn't it have been more economic to make the bling nest and a few blings to be able to get 3rd and 4th gas without those pesky lings? (I'm assuming he was planning to go mutas)
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On May 09 2013 08:00 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 07:50 albis wrote:
anyone ever think that this is his actual strategy, not to win games, but to create the most entertainment(hype,attention) and in turn money. if i could get paided to lose games, you bet your ass i would It's pretty easy to get paid to lose games, especially if they're bettable. Too bad that that's called match fixing and is generally illegal.
Let's not throw wild accusations here. Plus be honest, IdrA is unable to win against good players anymore. You can't participate in match-fixing if none believes you can actually win.
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On May 09 2013 08:01 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 07:59 stuchiu wrote:On May 09 2013 07:59 sitromit wrote:
How did Revival not see that all-in coming? Goswer his his lings in his main until he had a critical amount that 3 queens and 4 spines would never be able to hold. He didn't need to scout to see that all-in coming is what I'm saying.
Sure he did, since he died.
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I have a feeling EG will terminate Idra's contract ASAP. Or they should...it's one thing to perform poorly, it's a whole other thing to be what he's become. An absolute joke who's attitude won't even allow him to compete. It makes all of EG look bad.
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On May 09 2013 07:59 Dodgin wrote:
Judah @Ethan_Ahn 14m
KEAKEN is easy to give up. Easy.IdrA.DisConnect #WCS
I'm not sure what to make of this but it seems funny.
probably wanted to say
Gracken gives up too easily. EZ.IdrA.DC
sure is funny ^^
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On May 09 2013 07:48 Waxangel wrote:don't forget Show nested quote +On May 08 2013 08:21 IdrA wrote:On May 08 2013 08:11 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On May 08 2013 07:20 IdrA wrote:
talk to your fellow viewers then. because they dont reward results, either for players or teams. code S koreans can stream and get less than 500 viewers. the community forgets about a big tournament win as soon as the next big tournament happens.
a business' purpose is to make money. winning is at best tangentially related to making money in this industry, solely because of what you and the rest of the community chooses to watch. and any company who tries to lead the charge in the direction you're asking for is gonna go out of business. we arent "abusing a competitive platform" we work in an entertainment industry and you guys are entertained by pandering, not competition. Idra, in an insight in why he behaves the way he does. I am sure he is a nice fellow, who is pained and crying inside by his enforced facade for entertainment whenever he streams. nope you're all a bunch of fucks it just so happens i get paid to treat you like it. it's fucking awesome.
holy shit, where is the EG PR team when they need it.
This is insane.
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On May 09 2013 08:00 Vorenius wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 07:57 Jimz1469 wrote:On May 09 2013 07:50 albis wrote:
anyone ever think that this is his actual strategy, not to win games, but to create the most entertainment(hype,attention) and in turn money. if i could get paided to lose games, you bet your ass i would We'll see how his stream count does after this because it's been quiet low for em compared to his past history viewership. It should be claer by now that Idar isn't doing an act. It's how he is. I'm just glad to see that lately both Grubby and Demuslim have been getting more viewers than Idra. Two of the most likely guys in the community that deserves all the love in the world.
As it happens IdrA has BM'd them both. I think it's some kind of clash of ideologies. He has a pessimistic, probably nihilistic, world view, and it just makes him mad to see other people who seem genuinely happy.
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Idra has found his niche and is exploiting it, I believe this is just a shtick to him. Wikipedia this guy named Andy Kaufman. He is a US comedian who created a bunch of controversies to get fans and publicity all playing as this character of a naive immigrant. I believe that Idra is just playing this same game with us to get viewers and money. Its really sad that he cannot see the value in winning because he shows that he had the skill to beat Polt but decided enough was enough and went into Idra mode, leading Polt on the hook before reeling him in with the "OMG Ragequit lulz".
EG loves it because he brings them in a marketable clown who makes us laugh. That's all he is that's some performer for our amusement creating little controversies and we talk and talk about him.
His point is true, he gets talked about much more than others who have won tournaments and makes enough to earn a living while having massive eFame. I think to him the disrespect is worth it too him. Like a pratfall comedian shamelessly crashing a opera by throwing mud on himself while making oinking sounds we pay attention.
We let him beat us, its now time to ignore the clown forever or else it will profit off our attention. Get a real job Idra.
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On May 09 2013 08:01 Wpgstevo wrote:
Idra being invited to this is a joke. People need to stop watching his stream so he gets the message.
I feel like people watch Idra because his play and personality are essentially a train-wreck, and those who enjoy watching him are really just wanting to listen to a troll do his thing instead of seeing some good starcraft.
it is entertaining but when i see how he leaves taht game i feel bad for watching his stream. this is just ridiculous. he is a competetive gamer, a pro gamer. he should behave like a sportsman but he isn't. it hurts to see this.
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On May 09 2013 08:01 Zarahtra wrote:
Can a zerg explain to me why revival didn't make a bling nest? He was going lair, but wouldn't it have been more economic to make the bling nest and a few blings to be able to get 3rd and 4th gas without those pesky lings? (I'm assuming he was planning to go mutas)
didn't see the game but that's just greedy play to not go for a baneling nest.
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