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Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
May 02 2013 17:25 GMT
#281
Very odd choice TLO. Now he'll know you have a nydus.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 17:27:52
May 02 2013 17:26 GMT
#282
On May 03 2013 02:25 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 02:22 AgentW wrote:
On May 03 2013 02:21 AgentW wrote:
On May 03 2013 02:20 Darkhoarse wrote:
Can someone give small recaps of games? Unable to watch ATM.

Whirlwind
TLO top left
Kas top right
Hatch first and CC first down for both.

Refinery for Kas
Two queens for TLO
Factory down for Kas
Two extractors for TLO
Third CC hits the field for Kas
Lair on the way for TLO, third extractor
Roach warren down
Two engineering bays, bio incoming

Stim started
Roach speed started
Nydus canal down for TLO
1-1 started for Kas
Nydus by Kas's 4th established
No evo chambers for TLO

Roaches come in and are massacring SCVs
TLO doubling Kas's supply as roaches bust the front
Burrow and tunneling claws on the way for TLO
Mines clean up the first wave
Wave two of roaches running wild
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
May 02 2013 17:26 GMT
#283
Roach all-in. Every.Single. ZvT. Wtf is wrong with zergs O_o
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 17:32:38
May 02 2013 17:27 GMT
#284
On May 03 2013 02:20 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 02:11 BronzeKnee wrote:
On May 03 2013 02:04 ShroudeD wrote:
On May 03 2013 02:02 BronzeKnee wrote:
On May 03 2013 01:59 Zheryn wrote:
Hellbats being healed by medivacs is one of the most interesting ideas Blizzard have ever come up with.


What does Medivac energy do if you play Mech without Hellbat healing?

Nothing, and then the 100 gas you spend is wasted that could have gone into Tanks and the energy is liability due to Feedback.

In the Beta I suggested making Medivacs into just Dropships and adding Medics into the game (possibly with an upgrade that allowed them to load into a special 9th spot in a Dropship and heal from the Dropship) so Dropships can only cost 100 minerals and can be used in Mech or Bio.


This is the most stupid thing i've ever read in a thread like this


Why?

And now we can let the world revel in your brilliance...

Well your whole post was incoherent and I really don't know what you were trying to say. Not to mention you are just wrong. The medivacs are useful for not just healing the medivacs from dropping, lift micro and transporting the army much faster.

Also your suggestion of splitting medivacs into medics and dropships contradicting to what you said earlier. I assume you want dropships to be viable to use with mech in TvP. However if the dropships have no healing then the drop become waaaay less scary and it couldn't be worth the risk of losing the units inside to drop units that are not healing into cannons and Zealots.


In WOL, Medivacs are a big investment for a Mech player because they need the gas for Factories, Tanks and Thors because they cost a lot of gas, unlike Barracks, Marines and Marauders. Furthermore, they weren't required because you don't need them to heal your units as you did with Bio play. So people weren't build as many Medivacs when going Mech and thus didn't have the ability to drop as much as Bio players.

Allowing Medivacs to heal Hellbats gives a much better reason for people to use Medivacs while playing Mech. Taking that away would make put Medivacs in the same position they were in WOL for Mech players.

And that is why I think Blizzard is unlikely to do that.

My Medic/Dropship suggestion came long before Hellbats could be healed, and would be in replacement of that. Medics would be in the game, then a Dropship would have 1 or 2 special slots that only Medics could load into and thus become Medivacs. But for Mech players, you could build Dropships with no gas cost and use them like that. Medics also have another role in the game entirely that I explained.

I admit my previous post could be confusing. Does it make sense now?
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
May 02 2013 17:27 GMT
#285
I don't know why here didn't do the nydus in the main, not that it matters now but just a bit odd.
hundred thousand krouner
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
May 02 2013 17:27 GMT
#286
Silly Kas you should be prepared for something cheesy from TLO

oh well, foreigners psh
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
May 02 2013 17:28 GMT
#287
On May 03 2013 02:25 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 02:24 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Just tuned in and lol wtf NaNiwa - Shuttle 2-0 O.O


Is that surprising?

Well given how Nani was talking about his PvT, it can be surprising.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
May 02 2013 17:28 GMT
#288
Probably the only WCS NA/EU group that doesn't have a Korean get out
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
May 02 2013 17:29 GMT
#289
Getting pretty bad lag spikes here. Is it just me?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 02 2013 17:29 GMT
#290
Wow, TLO has lost a lot of roaches here.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 02 2013 17:29 GMT
#291
On May 03 2013 02:26 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 02:25 AgentW wrote:
On May 03 2013 02:22 AgentW wrote:
On May 03 2013 02:21 AgentW wrote:
On May 03 2013 02:20 Darkhoarse wrote:
Can someone give small recaps of games? Unable to watch ATM.

Whirlwind
TLO top left
Kas top right
Hatch first and CC first down for both.

Refinery for Kas
Two queens for TLO
Factory down for Kas
Two extractors for TLO
Third CC hits the field for Kas
Lair on the way for TLO, third extractor
Roach warren down
Two engineering bays, bio incoming

Stim started
Roach speed started
Nydus canal down for TLO
1-1 started for Kas
Nydus by Kas's 4th established
No evo chambers for TLO

Roaches come in and are massacring SCVs
TLO doubling Kas's supply as roaches bust the front
Burrow and tunneling claws on the way for TLO
Mines clean up the first wave
Wave two of roaches running wild

Third and infestation pit for TLO
Roaches get up into the main using burrow movement after forced evacuation of the natural
Cleaned up by Kas, kills many workers
91 to 58 supply for TLO
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Amestir
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2126 Posts
May 02 2013 17:29 GMT
#292
Stream is so chopy....
We know nothing.
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
May 02 2013 17:29 GMT
#293
On May 03 2013 02:29 Heartland wrote:
Getting pretty bad lag spikes here. Is it just me?

Not just you, it's pretty much unwatchable for me as well.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 02 2013 17:29 GMT
#294
TLO showing pity
Terran & Potato Salad.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
May 02 2013 17:29 GMT
#295
On May 03 2013 02:29 Heartland wrote:
Getting pretty bad lag spikes here. Is it just me?


Yes me too, very hard lagspikes. Think Im gonna go ladder instead, this sucks too much
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
May 02 2013 17:29 GMT
#296
On May 03 2013 02:29 Heartland wrote:
Getting pretty bad lag spikes here. Is it just me?

Same here on 720, it seems fine on 480.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
May 02 2013 17:30 GMT
#297
On May 03 2013 02:29 labbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 02:29 Heartland wrote:
Getting pretty bad lag spikes here. Is it just me?

Not just you, it's pretty much unwatchable for me as well.

European Twitch servers D:
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 02 2013 17:30 GMT
#298
On May 03 2013 02:25 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 02:21 Noocta wrote:
On May 03 2013 02:20 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
The ua Bomber


It's actually funny how much Kas share with Bomber's play.

At least they're not sharing their skill at Starcraft.


You can play the same style as someone but being a lot worse D:
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 02 2013 17:30 GMT
#299
On May 03 2013 02:30 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 02:29 labbe wrote:
On May 03 2013 02:29 Heartland wrote:
Getting pretty bad lag spikes here. Is it just me?

Not just you, it's pretty much unwatchable for me as well.

European Twitch servers D:

It's perfect for me.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
May 02 2013 17:30 GMT
#300
If you tell zerg units to go through the map and there's a nydus that'll be a shorter route for them, will they automatically go through the nydus or do you have to load them up and then out?
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