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chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
April 28 2013 00:14 GMT
#10881
agree with you people. Let the metagame play out. but last two tourneys were won by Zerg. Terrans had a hard time overall. And I am terran biased tbh. I just think Terrans need slight buffs to their weaker units. Protoss is starting to look like there is some sense to the mechanics, units, and overall composition. Maybe photon canon buffs to defend expansions. but make canons longer to build and more expensive.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 28 2013 00:14 GMT
#10882
On April 28 2013 09:07 ladyumbra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 08:59 Cyanocyst wrote:
Crap guys i messed up. Left the stream on, but i missed the games. Sounds like a spectacular finish to the finals.

Is it possible to find the vods anywhere yet?


http://www.sc2ratings.com/season-info.php?season=dhs13

all available vods are up including the finals


There is also sc2links which has got some group games too.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
April 28 2013 00:16 GMT
#10883
On April 28 2013 08:26 TimENT wrote:
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On April 28 2013 08:13 Bagi wrote:
On April 28 2013 08:12 TimENT wrote:
Has there been a tournament since the release of HotS where the Z didn't win? Lmao

I'm glad zergs are doing well, maybe it will eventually make the balance whining go away.


Lmao that hasn't stopped anyone from complaining in the past. Hopefully all 3 races will stop complaining because the game looks pretty fucking balanced right now

Won't ever happen. This is my take on it. If all 3 races complain fairly equally, then the game is balanced.
Zojukanji
Profile Joined June 2011
China393 Posts
April 28 2013 00:16 GMT
#10884
why couldn't nani win
do it!
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
April 28 2013 00:17 GMT
#10885
11 Players 34.4%
PvT 63.6% 7-4
PvZ 38.5% 10-16
PvR 0% 0-0
PvAll 45.9% 17-20
Terran
8 Players 25%
TvP 36.4% 4-7
TvZ 25% 3-9
TvR 0% 0-0
TvAll 30.4% 7-16
Zerg
13 Players 40.6%
ZvP 61.5% 16-10
ZvT 75% 9-3
ZvR 0% 0-0
ZvAll 65.8% 25-13
Round of 32
Round of 16
Round of 8
Semifinals
Finals

so my analysis was right. Terran is getting beat up. and that includes Polt
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
April 28 2013 00:19 GMT
#10886
i think terran just needs a little tweak and they will be fine but as it stands right now they are a little weak compared to the other races although that could change.
savior did nothing wrong
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
April 28 2013 00:19 GMT
#10887
Small sample size. You're not taking other factors into account. There were lots of Tosses and Zergs, few Terrans, fewer Korean Terrans, many foreign Tosses etc etc.

I'm a Protoss, I didn't see any problems with balance in the final. The better player won, and I was supporting Nani all the way. It was so close, though
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
April 28 2013 00:21 GMT
#10888
It's no doubt Terrans struggled mightily in this tournamnet
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3097 Posts
April 28 2013 00:21 GMT
#10889
On April 28 2013 09:19 EleanorRIgby wrote:
i think terran just needs a little tweak and they will be fine but as it stands right now they are a little weak compared to the other races although that could change.


I love what tournaments do to people's heads.

Terran is fucking good, man.
xgtx
Profile Joined February 2009
227 Posts
April 28 2013 00:22 GMT
#10890
there are 7 zergs in code s right now , leenock is none of them and you guys are saying leenock is beside life the best zerg ? ......
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
April 28 2013 00:24 GMT
#10891
On April 28 2013 09:22 xgtx wrote:
there are 7 zergs in code s right now , leenock is none of them and you guys are saying leenock is beside life the best zerg ? ......


Cuz Leenock had to face Parting and Life?
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
IMPrime
Profile Joined September 2011
United States715 Posts
April 28 2013 00:24 GMT
#10892
i love balance whine and balance whine culture #yolo #swag LIEK IF U AGREE!!11!
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
April 28 2013 00:25 GMT
#10893
On April 28 2013 09:17 chatuka wrote:
11 Players 34.4%
PvT 63.6% 7-4
PvZ 38.5% 10-16
PvR 0% 0-0
PvAll 45.9% 17-20
Terran
8 Players 25%
TvP 36.4% 4-7
TvZ 25% 3-9
TvR 0% 0-0
TvAll 30.4% 7-16
Zerg
13 Players 40.6%
ZvP 61.5% 16-10
ZvT 75% 9-3
ZvR 0% 0-0
ZvAll 65.8% 25-13
Round of 32
Round of 16
Round of 8
Semifinals
Finals

so my analysis was right. Terran is getting beat up. and that includes Polt

Polt game 2 was sad vs grubby that was an awful reaction to scouted proxy stargate.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3097 Posts
April 28 2013 00:25 GMT
#10894
On April 28 2013 09:21 BakedButters wrote:
It's no doubt Terrans struggled mightily in this tournamnet


Polt srsly under-performed, and then there's Gumiho. Am i missing anyone?

Kas might be good by EU standards but he played so derpily in the SortOf games. As did SortOf...just not the standard of some of these Koreans, not even close.

not very good terran representation this tournament.
freeshooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States477 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 00:28:49
April 28 2013 00:27 GMT
#10895
Ah man Nani. I feel so bad for him to once again come in 2nd. TSL3, Providence, Stockholm. If it wasn't for Dallas and MLG invitational, he'd be a "kong" of SC2 foreign tournaments.

EDIT: To guy above, Lucifron didn't get out of group stages, and he's been playing very well and was highest foreigner on power rank
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
April 28 2013 00:28 GMT
#10896
Wow. GG nani!
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11993 Posts
April 28 2013 00:31 GMT
#10897
Just wanted to write a bit about the tournament now that I've come home from it. I was a spectator and only for the part 15:40 today until the end.

Lights were god awful, felt like one was on a stage. 1h 30 min in I got a headache and at one point the lighting in the pause sections was so bad I borrowed a pair of sunglasses. It was relaxing to go to the bathroom since the lights there were normal.

The use of lighting where it lit up when people started making noise felt like the utterly wrong thing to do to me. At least I felt like the light had a dampening effect.

The crowd was nice. Until the time passed 23:30 or so. Once that happened a portion was too drunk to and another was just straight up tired (I was in this camp). A portion of the crowd was still going strong but they couldn't really carry it. Clapping, shouting etc gets hard to see as spontaneous fun after 5h, not to mention 7h+. Still fun to watch and talk to the people you are there with though.

They broke the schedule this year again. I expected them to do it, but it is hard to manage transports when they brake it with one hour or more.

The music was good. A lot of semi old music one recognised and that suited the mood. Less electronic music than normal which is something I appreciated.

The beam camera was annoying. I was sitting in the left section of the crowd and it blocked portions of the large screen quite often.

Overall I liked it, lots of stuff to nitpick about though.
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
April 28 2013 00:31 GMT
#10898
On April 28 2013 09:22 xgtx wrote:
there are 7 zergs in code s right now , leenock is none of them and you guys are saying leenock is beside life the best zerg ? ......

Code S =/= Best player. Though, I wouldn't say Leenock is close to as good as Life either...
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
April 28 2013 00:32 GMT
#10899
I think if Yoda from IM was at this tournament people's perception of Terran might be slightly improved.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
April 28 2013 00:32 GMT
#10900
On April 28 2013 09:25 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 09:21 BakedButters wrote:
It's no doubt Terrans struggled mightily in this tournamnet


Polt srsly under-performed, and then there's Gumiho. Am i missing anyone?

Kas might be good by EU standards but he played so derpily in the SortOf games. As did SortOf...just not the standard of some of these Koreans, not even close.

not very good terran representation this tournament.


Well most would of predicted ForGG to make it out of his group, Polt as well, Kas to win over SortOf, Thorzain to make it out of his group (little iffy), and Gumiho to defeat JD.
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
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