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On April 27 2013 18:35 TheSir wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 18:28 bgx wrote: stupid play from grubby, he got both hallucination and observer and still played into leenock hands well he was already making immortals and then what you do? continue or tech switch and your fucked when zerg switches... I wished Grubby would have gone for Stargate play or something, at least force Zerg to do something, let hem spam zerglings is never a good idea cause they will find a gap at one point.
Tech switch?
He SCOUTED the 3rd and 4th gases werent even being taken. How the hell do you tech switch on 2 gases?
Even with 4 gases you still can't really go double evo, infestation pit and 'tech switch'.
Making immortals when you don't scout gases, roach warren and infestation pit just sounds silly - feel free to disagree.
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On April 27 2013 18:33 Ysellian wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 18:31 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 27 2013 18:30 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 27 2013 18:29 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 27 2013 18:28 Ysellian wrote:On April 27 2013 18:27 Vindicare605 wrote:On April 27 2013 18:27 Heartland wrote: Sooo.... Leenock wins DH? Gumiho can stop him. Towel Terran fighting! Hyun can too. This isn't an online event, thus I am not counting on Hyun to make any huge waves here. I can be proven wrong no doubt, but that's how I feel atm. Hyun made it to a Code S final. Have you seen him in the GSTL lately? It hasn't been pretty. Leenock hasn't looked particularly good in the GSL either to be honest. Which is what I think you mean?
In the GSL he faced Parting and life and got out 3-4, and while he didn't looked good in front of parting I think it's safe to say that there is no protoss as good as parting remaning in Dreamhack 
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Norway25712 Posts
How does CoCa look after he returned?
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On April 27 2013 18:35 FuRong wrote:Leenock is a beast at foreign events though, he's always done better overseas than in the GSL.
Oh I don't disagree, but my point is that Hyun can definitely beat Leenock on a good day. Not saying he's favoured, but to give him no chance is just silly.
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On April 27 2013 18:35 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 18:34 [OGN]Remmy wrote:Bad brackets for SaSe indeed.  He is gonna play with Korean guys in the next few rounds. Nah, he'll only be playing one Korean today.
SaSe is living with Sen in Taiwan these months and he may improved a lot, but still too weak to face with top players like Hyun
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On April 27 2013 18:37 KristofferAG wrote: How does CoCa look after he returned?
Lots of last hits, good control
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And the stream is gone...
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OMG Main stream is offline again?
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Ugh can we not have the stream crashing randomly today too
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United States97274 Posts
On April 27 2013 18:37 KristofferAG wrote: How does CoCa look after he returned? he's looking better than he did at the code a qualifiers. I wouldnt say great, but solid
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On April 27 2013 18:33 AxionSteel wrote: Grubby probably doesn't encounter that kind of play on EU Ladder, but still, you'd think a player at that level would be able to make the correct reads with all the scouting he got, then know what to do. very robotic play.
No not often, but Dimaga played a best of 9 practice on both of there streaming time not to long ago, and Dimaga did this build aswell, though Leenock is of a higher calibeur it's no excuse to Grubby of not knowing this build.
I might add Dimaga won the series, and i believe he did the build every single time
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On April 27 2013 18:37 [OGN]Remmy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 18:35 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On April 27 2013 18:34 [OGN]Remmy wrote:Bad brackets for SaSe indeed.  He is gonna play with Korean guys in the next few rounds. Nah, he'll only be playing one Korean today. SaSe is living with Sen in Taiwan these months and he may improved a lot, but still too weak to face with top players like Hyun 
I´m not so sure, Hyun vs Nani should have been 2:0 for Nani, if Nani can beat Hyun, Sase has a chace as well.
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Why does dreamhack show 1-0 for every game? wat :D
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On April 27 2013 18:34 mongmong wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 18:30 n0ise wrote:On April 27 2013 18:27 Type|NarutO wrote:On April 27 2013 18:25 n0ise wrote:Grubby ffs... how can people lose games so easily at this level  Because Leenock is a few levels above Grubby arbitrary random statements ftw i wasn't expecting G to win, but we can both agree that losing like he lost in the 2nd game is (should be) really unacceptable at this level What 'level' are you talking about? and how is his statement random? we all agree that Leenock is a much better player than grubby dont we?
I wasn't asking who's favorite to win, I was asking how is it possible to lose like that at "this" level, as in, ro16 in one of the biggest lans in the world.
I was hoping for answers like lack of focus, lag, JYP touches - but maybe I just put Grubby on a pedestal out of w3 nostalgia while you guys are right and the difference between them is this abysmal. Probably it's somewhere between the two 
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Norway25712 Posts
On April 27 2013 18:37 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 18:37 KristofferAG wrote: How does CoCa look after he returned? Lots of last hits, good control Well, as long as he doesn't start ksing from my favorites I'm fine with it.
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On April 27 2013 18:35 TheSir wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 18:28 bgx wrote: stupid play from grubby, he got both hallucination and observer and still played into leenock hands well he was already making immortals and then what you do? continue or tech switch and your fucked when zerg switches... I wished Grubby would have gone for Stargate play or something, at least force Zerg to do something, let hem spam zerglings is never a good idea cause they will find a gap at one point. robo was fine i think, just dont understand why he didnt put on pressure or continue teching with it.
first, he built an observer even though he had plenty of scouting potential with his sentries. then he started immortal production and got blink with a third base. none of these things really seemed to line up. what was he trying to achieve? he expanded and built units that answer roaches and mutalisks, which he scouted were not coming out.
if he had just gotten a warp prism or a robo bay instead of immortals and blink, he could have actually forced leenock to do something other than make zerglings
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On April 27 2013 18:37 [OGN]Remmy wrote: OMG Main stream is offline again? No? It's still up for me.
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Wow, that's oldschool track.
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I thought the reason for doing the extractor trick was that it makes your overlord timings harder to read or something?
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