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PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
April 27 2013 17:52 GMT
#4481
On April 28 2013 02:51 Al Bundy wrote:
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On April 28 2013 02:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:49 Azurues wrote:
how could anyone not want Jaedong to win or be successful in sc2?

i mean how?


some people just want races to win not people.

Thats racist! Oh... wait.

Protoss is the superior race, there I said it

Sorry but everyone knows that Terran is the Master race.
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
April 27 2013 17:52 GMT
#4482
Jesus, people whining about the "all-in" JD did. Its not like terran cannot use scan, especially after his scout was so blatantly denied.
Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
April 27 2013 17:52 GMT
#4483
I feel like I'm in 2009 again, fuck yeah Lee Jae Dong
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4484
2 barracks just to defend JD's rush. LOL
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4485
On April 28 2013 02:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 02:48 greenelve wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:46 greenelve wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]

JAE JAE!

But..but..he has only won 1 game at this Bo3 so far


I'll take any chance of spamming the rainbow sheep.

[image loading]

Hey, now i'm interested BLinD-RawR. I know you're not the biggest Flash fan (just KT in general), but you're heavily cheering for Jaedong. So who you cheer for in JvF? :D

On Topic: I like both of them. Either can win if he beats Naniwa, which i totally don't like.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4486
On April 28 2013 02:49 Shikyo wrote:
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On April 28 2013 02:45 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:43 mechengineer123 wrote:
meh was hoping for some real games, but i guess i dont blame him for cheesing vs gumiho


do you even know what cheese is?


Well that certainly was a cheese, not allin, but cheese. It wasn't simple pressure. Cheese will put you behind if you don't deal damage, allin will lose you the game if you don't win right there. Pressure you can decide if you want to pull back or not ;-)

I think he's right on it

Nice definition, bro. 2 Reaper expand vs Z is cheese then.


Explain to me, how losing 2 reapers (which is near to impossible to begin with, as you want to scout and not fight with them) is nearly putting you as behind as losing 7+ roaches and 20 lings without getting a 3rd base while your opponent has 3 bases ready. Nice bro!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4487
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4488
On April 28 2013 02:52 templar rage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 02:48 shabby wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:47 templar rage wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:45 Azhrei16 wrote:
Punishing a greedy build and then macroing behind roaches/lings is apparently cheese now. Well played Jaedong.


Well, you punish greedy builds by all-ining, so. . . That was an all-in, and it worked.


How was it all-in? He had 3 bases, double evo, spire and was droning. You're allowed to attack.


Yeah he clearly had all this before he attacked lol.

you do know what is an all in, right?
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DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4489
I really like this build from Gumiho on this map. Since it's harder to take a third, making units earlier just makes sense.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4490
On April 28 2013 02:52 PanzerElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 02:51 Al Bundy wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:51 ThomasjServo wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:49 Azurues wrote:
how could anyone not want Jaedong to win or be successful in sc2?

i mean how?


some people just want races to win not people.

Thats racist! Oh... wait.

Protoss is the superior race, there I said it

Sorry but everyone knows that Terran is the Master race.

Not in that last game they weren't.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4491
On April 28 2013 02:51 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 02:47 Kihshra wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:45 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:43 mechengineer123 wrote:
meh was hoping for some real games, but i guess i dont blame him for cheesing vs gumiho


do you even know what cheese is?


Well that certainly was a cheese, not allin, but cheese. It wasn't simple pressure. Cheese will put you behind if you don't deal damage, allin will lose you the game if you don't win right there. Pressure you can decide if you want to pull back or not ;-)

I think he's right on it

"Cheese will put you behind if you don't deal damage". Well then, I guess anything but a 4th against triple cc is a cheese.


Look, if you do roach/bane on two base and follow it up with more lings, its an allin.
If you do roach pressure with 3-4 roaches and a few lings, its pressure because you drone behind and get a 3rd base
If you do roach/ling with 2 base and lots of roaches 7+ (which it was) and lings AND reinforce it (yes, he decided to do it after it works, but it still makes it cheese) and don't get a 3rd, its a cheese.

I don't blame on it or hate on it, I think its clever vs greedy players especially since the metagame is bad for Terrans as in they get mines instead of what they should get; a banshee.

But if Jaedongs initial "pressure" does nothing, he's very behind, because gumiho will have 3 ccs, better economy and will boost ahead.

If you disagree, your thing, but I've played on high level and casted on high enough level to call it out as such with good enough reasoning behind :X

2 Reaper expand needs to deal damage to the Zerg or you fall behind. Nevermind the fact that it's extremely likely to deal damage, you didn't include it in your definition. So you're basically saying 2 Reaper expand is cheese. And I disagree. And you probably do as well, so...


Gumiho's hellions are a bit faster than expected, did he skip something... Cut an SCV probably?
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NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4492
On April 28 2013 02:52 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 02:51 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:47 Kihshra wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:45 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:43 mechengineer123 wrote:
meh was hoping for some real games, but i guess i dont blame him for cheesing vs gumiho


do you even know what cheese is?


Well that certainly was a cheese, not allin, but cheese. It wasn't simple pressure. Cheese will put you behind if you don't deal damage, allin will lose you the game if you don't win right there. Pressure you can decide if you want to pull back or not ;-)

I think he's right on it

"Cheese will put you behind if you don't deal damage". Well then, I guess anything but a 4th against triple cc is a cheese.


Look, if you do roach/bane on two base and follow it up with more lings, its an allin.
If you do roach pressure with 3-4 roaches and a few lings, its pressure because you drone behind and get a 3rd base
If you do roach/ling with 2 base and lots of roaches 7+ (which it was) and lings AND reinforce it (yes, he decided to do it after it works, but it still makes it cheese) and don't get a 3rd, its a cheese.

I don't blame on it or hate on it, I think its clever vs greedy players especially since the metagame is bad for Terrans as in they get mines instead of what they should get; a banshee.

But if Jaedongs initial "pressure" does nothing, he's very behind, because gumiho will have 3 ccs, better economy and will boost ahead.

If you disagree, your thing, but I've played on high level and casted on high enough level to call it out as such with good enough reasoning behind :X

he made drones behind initially though. only added lings to increase the pressure (took down bunker and supply depot with them) and immediately went back to droning (and already has 1-1 and spire ready)
not all in at all


Quote me where I called it as allin? I never did. I said it was cheese. Cheese as explained =/= allin.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 17:54:28
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4493
On April 28 2013 02:51 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 02:47 Kihshra wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:45 Type|NarutO wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:44 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:43 mechengineer123 wrote:
meh was hoping for some real games, but i guess i dont blame him for cheesing vs gumiho


do you even know what cheese is?


Well that certainly was a cheese, not allin, but cheese. It wasn't simple pressure. Cheese will put you behind if you don't deal damage, allin will lose you the game if you don't win right there. Pressure you can decide if you want to pull back or not ;-)

I think he's right on it

"Cheese will put you behind if you don't deal damage". Well then, I guess anything but a 4th against triple cc is a cheese.


Look, if you do roach/bane on two base and follow it up with more lings, its an allin.
If you do roach pressure with 3-4 roaches and a few lings, its pressure because you drone behind and get a 3rd base
If you do roach/ling with 2 base and lots of roaches 7+ (which it was) and lings AND reinforce it (yes, he decided to do it after it works, but it still makes it cheese) and don't get a 3rd, its a cheese.

Thing is, he got a 3rd, droned behind it (before reinforcing), got double evo and spire. So no, you can't call that cheese, according to your own definitions.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
April 27 2013 17:53 GMT
#4494
this match really should've been a bo5 lol
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[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
April 27 2013 17:54 GMT
#4495
LINGs ahead! GO<3
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-27 17:54:33
April 27 2013 17:54 GMT
#4496
Missed a huge surround there... then doesnt'
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
April 27 2013 17:54 GMT
#4497
On April 28 2013 02:53 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 02:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:48 greenelve wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:47 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:46 greenelve wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]

JAE JAE!

But..but..he has only won 1 game at this Bo3 so far


I'll take any chance of spamming the rainbow sheep.

[image loading]

Hey, now i'm interested BLinD-RawR. I know you're not the biggest Flash fan (just KT in general), but you're heavily cheering for Jaedong. So who you cheer for in JvF? :D

On Topic: I like both of them. Either can win if he beats Naniwa, which i totally don't like.


hmm in a JvF scenario I stay true to Flash but its never upsetting to see jaedong win.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
April 27 2013 17:54 GMT
#4498
Nice job Jaedong!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
April 27 2013 17:54 GMT
#4499
On April 28 2013 02:53 figq wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQWVLa4zTMM


I downloaded it alrdy COOOL.
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nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
April 27 2013 17:54 GMT
#4500
On April 28 2013 02:52 templar rage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 02:48 shabby wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:47 templar rage wrote:
On April 28 2013 02:45 Azhrei16 wrote:
Punishing a greedy build and then macroing behind roaches/lings is apparently cheese now. Well played Jaedong.


Well, you punish greedy builds by all-ining, so. . . That was an all-in, and it worked.


How was it all-in? He had 3 bases, double evo, spire and was droning. You're allowed to attack.


Yeah he clearly had all this before he attacked lol.


LOL I forgot you need to have all those buildings before you're allowed to attack as Zerg.

This is why people look at SC2 so linearly, it's sad.
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