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IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
April 26 2013 22:24 GMT
#6001
On April 27 2013 07:23 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 07:21 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:18 StarVe wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:17 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Puzzle is going to win Dreamhack since he was infused with Kespa power
Puzzle > Leenock in the finals


Holy shit, I just realized that Puzzle managed to break through the firewall of Kespa-MLG exclusivity. This might be one of the rare times we see a Kespa player abroad like this.

Thank you, Project Dark Horse for sending an "underdog" who somehow is on a Kespa team to Dreamhack with community money.

*cough, cough*


Am I a terrible person for being absolutely delighted that the money is being used on Puzzle and Coca as a chance to revive their careers? :p

Obviously not, but some people who bought stuff for 500$+ were pissed already when they announced they were sending Coca/Puzzle. Now that Puzzle is on a Kespa team, too, I can't imagine them being any happier.

KT can always give the money back
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
April 26 2013 22:24 GMT
#6002
On April 27 2013 07:24 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 07:23 StarVe wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:21 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:18 StarVe wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:17 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Puzzle is going to win Dreamhack since he was infused with Kespa power
Puzzle > Leenock in the finals


Holy shit, I just realized that Puzzle managed to break through the firewall of Kespa-MLG exclusivity. This might be one of the rare times we see a Kespa player abroad like this.

Thank you, Project Dark Horse for sending an "underdog" who somehow is on a Kespa team to Dreamhack with community money.

*cough, cough*


Am I a terrible person for being absolutely delighted that the money is being used on Puzzle and Coca as a chance to revive their careers? :p

Obviously not, but some people who bought stuff for 500$+ were pissed already when they announced they were sending Coca/Puzzle. Now that Puzzle is on a Kespa team, too, I can't imagine them being any happier.

KT can always give the money back

KT Refund Puzzle
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 26 2013 22:24 GMT
#6003
So, will the bracket be released tonight?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 26 2013 22:25 GMT
#6004
On April 27 2013 07:23 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 07:17 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:13 MVTaylor wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:12 LighT. wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:10 MVTaylor wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:58 MVTaylor wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:51 arkedos wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:50 Instigata wrote:
Is this part of the Euro WCS or something? Where are all the good Koreans like Life, Rain, DRG, Innovation, Parting etc



no but it gives points towards WCS, but it is not a direct WCS tournament. And there are plenty of good koreans.


The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,


You do know Kespa have an exclusivity deal with MLG involving foreign tournaments, don't you?


That has nothing at all to do with the quality of this lineup. Excuses do not alter the reality.


So you knew that then went ahead and made that post? Okay... so let's edit your quote then.

On April 27 2013 07:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,


So. 3.

Naww..
ST Bomber
ST Curious
Azubu Violet
Azubu B4
Azubu Supernova
MKP
Byun
Maru
DRG
lots of good koreans missing out on this : )


Exactly, so why did he bother naming the Kespa players (who he knew were ineligible) over all the others?


Because of you listed the best 10 players in the world right now I'd go (in no order):

Life
Roro
Symbol
Soulkey
Parting
Rain
Flash
Innovation
Taeja
Yoda.

Maybe you could squeeze in Gumiho over Yoda.

So there's 1 player in the top 10 in the world at best in this tournament. That's a pretty key point if people are going to talk about foreigner vs korean skill gap.

I dont think anyone's arguing that foreigners have fully caught up to the koreans in skill gap...and being able to compete with the very best..
If they are...they're pretty much being delusional to an incomprehensible degree.
It's fair to say that top of the foreigners can compete with the mid-tier koreans given what we've seen from dreamhack.
They're still far from competing with the best.


Top foreigners have been about as good as mid tier Koreans when playing at foreign LAN's for about two years now (not the case when they play in Korea where foreigners are more like low Code A/Code B level in terms of performance). It's not really a new development at this event or in HOTS.
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
April 26 2013 22:25 GMT
#6005
On April 27 2013 07:21 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 07:18 StarVe wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:17 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Puzzle is going to win Dreamhack since he was infused with Kespa power
Puzzle > Leenock in the finals


Holy shit, I just realized that Puzzle managed to break through the firewall of Kespa-MLG exclusivity. This might be one of the rare times we see a Kespa player abroad like this.

Thank you, Project Dark Horse for sending an "underdog" who somehow is on a Kespa team to Dreamhack with community money.

*cough, cough*


Am I a terrible person for being absolutely delighted that the money is being used on Puzzle and Coca as a chance to revive their careers? :p

No way. Its just a conspiracy from the Dark Horses.
And remember, Dark Horses -> DH = DH <- DreamHack mwahahahahahaha
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 26 2013 22:26 GMT
#6006
On April 27 2013 07:24 Bagration wrote:
So, will the bracket be released tonight?

SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
April 26 2013 22:26 GMT
#6007
So, did they just skip Sortof vs. Puzzle?
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland11907 Posts
April 26 2013 22:26 GMT
#6008
On April 27 2013 07:26 TheBB wrote:
So, did they just skip Sortof vs. Puzzle?


Liquipedia has Sortof 2-0, but I'm pretty sure it was reported as a win for Puzzle in this thread.
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 26 2013 22:26 GMT
#6009
On April 27 2013 07:25 Taipoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 07:21 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:18 StarVe wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:17 Bagration wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:15 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Puzzle is going to win Dreamhack since he was infused with Kespa power
Puzzle > Leenock in the finals


Holy shit, I just realized that Puzzle managed to break through the firewall of Kespa-MLG exclusivity. This might be one of the rare times we see a Kespa player abroad like this.

Thank you, Project Dark Horse for sending an "underdog" who somehow is on a Kespa team to Dreamhack with community money.

*cough, cough*


Am I a terrible person for being absolutely delighted that the money is being used on Puzzle and Coca as a chance to revive their careers? :p

No way. Its just a conspiracy from the Dark Horses.
And remember, Dark Horses -> DH = DH <- DreamHack mwahahahahahaha

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The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
April 26 2013 22:26 GMT
#6010
On April 27 2013 07:26 TheBB wrote:
So, did they just skip Sortof vs. Puzzle?


SortOf lost 0-2
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 26 2013 22:27 GMT
#6011
On April 27 2013 07:26 TheBB wrote:
So, did they just skip Sortof vs. Puzzle?


KInd of. It was a 2-0, but I'm not completely sure who won. Tidus Mino says Puzzle, Liquipedia says Sortof. Both advance either way
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
hapZi
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland51 Posts
April 26 2013 22:27 GMT
#6012
brackets: http://dhopen.binarybeast.com/xSC21304254
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 26 2013 22:28 GMT
#6013
ouhh huk and grubby this will be so tough. oh god.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland11907 Posts
April 26 2013 22:28 GMT
#6014
On April 27 2013 07:27 hapZi wrote:
brackets: http://dhopen.binarybeast.com/xSC21304254


From the brackets you can tell Puzzle beat Sortof
"It is capitalism that is incentivizing me to lazily explain this to you while at work because I am not rewarded for generating additional value."
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
April 26 2013 22:29 GMT
#6015
On April 27 2013 07:25 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 07:23 LighT. wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:17 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:13 MVTaylor wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:12 LighT. wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:10 MVTaylor wrote:
On April 27 2013 07:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:58 MVTaylor wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 27 2013 06:51 arkedos wrote:
[quote]


no but it gives points towards WCS, but it is not a direct WCS tournament. And there are plenty of good koreans.


The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,


You do know Kespa have an exclusivity deal with MLG involving foreign tournaments, don't you?


That has nothing at all to do with the quality of this lineup. Excuses do not alter the reality.


So you knew that then went ahead and made that post? Okay... so let's edit your quote then.

On April 27 2013 07:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
The Korean lineup is pretty underwhelming. There's some great Koreans here sure but there's a fuck load not here, namely all the Kespa ones plus Life, Taeja and Symbol,


So. 3.

Naww..
ST Bomber
ST Curious
Azubu Violet
Azubu B4
Azubu Supernova
MKP
Byun
Maru
DRG
lots of good koreans missing out on this : )


Exactly, so why did he bother naming the Kespa players (who he knew were ineligible) over all the others?


Because of you listed the best 10 players in the world right now I'd go (in no order):

Life
Roro
Symbol
Soulkey
Parting
Rain
Flash
Innovation
Taeja
Yoda.

Maybe you could squeeze in Gumiho over Yoda.

So there's 1 player in the top 10 in the world at best in this tournament. That's a pretty key point if people are going to talk about foreigner vs korean skill gap.

I dont think anyone's arguing that foreigners have fully caught up to the koreans in skill gap...and being able to compete with the very best..
If they are...they're pretty much being delusional to an incomprehensible degree.
It's fair to say that top of the foreigners can compete with the mid-tier koreans given what we've seen from dreamhack.
They're still far from competing with the best.


Top foreigners have been about as good as mid tier Koreans when playing at foreign LAN's for about two years now (not the case when they play in Korea where foreigners are more like low Code A/Code B level in terms of performance). It's not really a new development at this event or in HOTS.


There is very, very small sample size for top foreigners playing in korea. But even then you could see players like nani, huk and Stephano have respectable performances in the GSL and Stephano in PL.
xlord 5:0
Taipoka
Profile Joined November 2012
Brazil1224 Posts
April 26 2013 22:29 GMT
#6016
On April 27 2013 07:27 hapZi wrote:
brackets: http://dhopen.binarybeast.com/xSC21304254

Really nice bracket. Looks fun.
And in the 7th day, Flash stopped macroing the universe.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 26 2013 22:29 GMT
#6017
On April 27 2013 07:27 hapZi wrote:
brackets: http://dhopen.binarybeast.com/xSC21304254


If Verdi upsets Jaedong...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 26 2013 22:29 GMT
#6018
i will be very upset if Jaedong loses against Verdi.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
April 26 2013 22:29 GMT
#6019
but is it really all bo3, even the finals? that sucks man
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 26 2013 22:29 GMT
#6020
On April 27 2013 07:28 Undead1993 wrote:
ouhh huk and grubby this will be so tough. oh god.


Every opponent is though at this stage.. gonna beat them all anyway.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
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