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JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3021
Drunkenboi can scrap. He seems more comfortable than Incontrol when the game gets messy. I don't see him making it though.
"Right on" - Morrow
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3022
On April 22 2013 04:36 BronzeKnee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:35 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:32 BronzeKnee wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:30 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:26 BronzeKnee wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:24 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:23 BronzeKnee wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:18 farvacola wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:15 BronzeKnee wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:10 Zarahtra wrote:
[quote]
Yup, while I'm a pretty passive player and hate all these oracle rushes, reaper allins, roach rushes etc etc, they make the game so much better than the crap state of NR15 by end of WoL.


Well, I play the opposite way that you play, but WOL ended up stale because Blizzard and map makers went to far in hurting all-ins and refused to accept that it should require skill to hold all-ins.

HOTS will end up in an even worse state with things like Photon Overcharge and Widow Mines unforunately.

This makes no sense to me....making all-ins easier to deal with prolongs games, expands windows for displays of non-game-ending skill, and removes a lot of opportunities for lesser skilled players to knock out better players with dice rolls.


Photon Overcharge doesn't take any skill, which is why it is bad. And it goes too far, denying almost all Terran 1 base all-ins.


You mean all those amazing builds that involve building a ton of marines and some other crap and charging cross map? I think we are better off without those, personally. Also, build bunker and slap units into bunker is not the paragon of skill either.


Well, I got to Masters in WOL being able to hold all types of Terran all-ins. It is difficult and it takes skill. And it is enjoyable to hold a Terran all-in as Protoss.

Photon Overcharge makes the game boring for me. I hated WOL PvT, 15 minutes of build up for 30 seconds of action decided by HT and Ghost micro.

The guy above is right, if you don't want viable 1 base plays, then just start the game with everyone on two bases and a basic infrastructure.

There are still one base timings that are out there and I am sure people will find them. Like everything else, it will take time. The overcharge means that people can't just walk across the map with a mob of marines and hope that the protoss doesn't have enough to hold them off, which I am ok with.


As I said, no good player was having issues with the mob of Marines. It took skill. Now it doesn't.

And no, Photon Overcharge counters all early 1 base Terran play that isn't worker harass. It is way too strong.


Well the game I am watching on stream is showing its not really a problem. Unless you are better than incontrol, which I am not sure.


Really? You can't read?

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:32 BronzeKnee wrote:
And no, Photon Overcharge counters all early 1 base Terran play that isn't worker harass. It is way too strong.

Yeah, I don't know what to say. I think it is fine and there is nothing wrong with it. The terran can still be aggressive and make the game hard for the protoss and I don't really care how exactly that is accomplished.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3023
Sweet some mech play coming up *grabs his scratchpad*
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3024
On April 22 2013 04:37 Sissors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:36 Topdoller wrote:
Drunkenboi looks a crap player who will die to any player who can take the game past 15 mins. I feel sorry for Incontrol losing to him

Drunkenboi looked like he complete outplayed Incontrol.

Pretty much this...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3025
as much as i'm sure it sucks for him psychologically, part of me hopes Incontrol just stops playing because i want him to cast as much as possible. love the dude though so i guess it's kinda rude to say that.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Sissors
Profile Joined March 2012
1395 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3026
On April 22 2013 04:38 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:37 Sissors wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:36 Topdoller wrote:
Drunkenboi looks a crap player who will die to any player who can take the game past 15 mins. I feel sorry for Incontrol losing to him

Drunkenboi looked like he complete outplayed Incontrol.


and so what does that say about incontrol?

That at this moment he was outplayed by Drunkenboi? What kind of deep thoughts do you get after someone loses 2-1?
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3027
On April 22 2013 04:38 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:37 Sissors wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:36 Topdoller wrote:
Drunkenboi looks a crap player who will die to any player who can take the game past 15 mins. I feel sorry for Incontrol losing to him

Drunkenboi looked like he complete outplayed Incontrol.


and so what does that say about incontrol?

another full time caster is born.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3028
Too bad about that result. Here to hoping DeMu and NonY get through.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3029
On April 22 2013 04:37 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:36 Topdoller wrote:
Drunkenboi looks a crap player who will die to any player who can take the game past 15 mins. I feel sorry for Incontrol losing to him

why? incontrol gets paid money to do this, drunkboi is just some abusive amateur. it was up to incontrol to show that. and he failed pretty badly at it.


Play to win. When you are a relatively unknown player like Drunkenboi and winning this qualifier could mean the big breakthrough for his career.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Tobon
Profile Joined March 2011
United States372 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3030
Supposedly spots 9 through 40 in this tournament get invited to the NA Challenger league qualifier - any idea where the cutoff for #40 is right now? Are all the players still in it at this point going to get invites?
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
April 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#3031
--- Nuked ---
nohole
Profile Joined June 2012
United States56 Posts
April 21 2013 19:40 GMT
#3032
drunkenboi is top 10 GM na, so he's not some scrub amateur....
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 21 2013 19:40 GMT
#3033
Never noticed this before, but the three Z I considered most likely to qualify are all in the same LB: Jaedong, Revival and Zenio.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
April 21 2013 19:40 GMT
#3034
On April 22 2013 04:37 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:36 Topdoller wrote:
Drunkenboi looks a crap player who will die to any player who can take the game past 15 mins. I feel sorry for Incontrol losing to him

why? incontrol gets paid money to do this, drunkboi is just some abusive amateur. it was up to incontrol to show that. and he failed pretty badly at it.


I think it is a pretty well established fact at this point that iNcontroL is more of a community figure than a progamer at this point. I believe he have said this plenty of times himself.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 21 2013 19:40 GMT
#3035
On April 22 2013 04:39 Scrubwave wrote:
What race is Mario?

Terran I believe. He regularly posts mech replays, is that right?
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
April 21 2013 19:40 GMT
#3036
On April 22 2013 04:39 Sissors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:38 mememolly wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:37 Sissors wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:36 Topdoller wrote:
Drunkenboi looks a crap player who will die to any player who can take the game past 15 mins. I feel sorry for Incontrol losing to him

Drunkenboi looked like he complete outplayed Incontrol.


and so what does that say about incontrol?

That at this moment he was outplayed by Drunkenboi? What kind of deep thoughts do you get after someone loses 2-1?


you obviously missed my point
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 21 2013 19:40 GMT
#3037
On April 22 2013 04:39 Scrubwave wrote:
What race is Mario?


He's the terran who writes awesome mech guides.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
April 21 2013 19:40 GMT
#3038
Wow, is Mario htoMario? The mech player? 'cause that would be awesome.

govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 21 2013 19:40 GMT
#3039
On April 22 2013 04:39 Scrubwave wrote:
What race is Mario?


The meching terran
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 21 2013 19:41 GMT
#3040
On April 22 2013 04:39 Scrubwave wrote:
What race is Mario?


If it is HTOMarop, then he's terran and will play mech.
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