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DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 19:41:24
April 21 2013 19:41 GMT
#3041
I think iNcontroL can be perfectly happy with his overall performance in the qualifiers. He made it further than I thought he would.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
April 21 2013 19:41 GMT
#3042
Wow Htomario is playing. This will be cool.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 19:44:24
April 21 2013 19:41 GMT
#3043
On April 22 2013 04:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:36 BronzeKnee wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:35 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:32 BronzeKnee wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:30 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:26 BronzeKnee wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:24 Plansix wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:23 BronzeKnee wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:18 farvacola wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:15 BronzeKnee wrote:
[quote]

Well, I play the opposite way that you play, but WOL ended up stale because Blizzard and map makers went to far in hurting all-ins and refused to accept that it should require skill to hold all-ins.

HOTS will end up in an even worse state with things like Photon Overcharge and Widow Mines unforunately.

This makes no sense to me....making all-ins easier to deal with prolongs games, expands windows for displays of non-game-ending skill, and removes a lot of opportunities for lesser skilled players to knock out better players with dice rolls.


Photon Overcharge doesn't take any skill, which is why it is bad. And it goes too far, denying almost all Terran 1 base all-ins.


You mean all those amazing builds that involve building a ton of marines and some other crap and charging cross map? I think we are better off without those, personally. Also, build bunker and slap units into bunker is not the paragon of skill either.


Well, I got to Masters in WOL being able to hold all types of Terran all-ins. It is difficult and it takes skill. And it is enjoyable to hold a Terran all-in as Protoss.

Photon Overcharge makes the game boring for me. I hated WOL PvT, 15 minutes of build up for 30 seconds of action decided by HT and Ghost micro.

The guy above is right, if you don't want viable 1 base plays, then just start the game with everyone on two bases and a basic infrastructure.

There are still one base timings that are out there and I am sure people will find them. Like everything else, it will take time. The overcharge means that people can't just walk across the map with a mob of marines and hope that the protoss doesn't have enough to hold them off, which I am ok with.


As I said, no good player was having issues with the mob of Marines. It took skill. Now it doesn't.

And no, Photon Overcharge counters all early 1 base Terran play that isn't worker harass. It is way too strong.


Well the game I am watching on stream is showing its not really a problem. Unless you are better than incontrol, which I am not sure.


Really? You can't read?

On April 22 2013 04:32 BronzeKnee wrote:
And no, Photon Overcharge counters all early 1 base Terran play that isn't worker harass. It is way too strong.

Yeah, I don't know what to say. I think it is fine and there is nothing wrong with it. The terran can still be aggressive and make the game hard for the protoss and I don't really care how exactly that is accomplished.


Well, I enjoy having fun, not just winning. Holding early Terran all-ins was fun and took skill. Now it doesn't and is boring.

And since no one does them anymore, there is now less variety in PvT, which is boring and bad.

They could have come with an ability that allows for more skill than Photon Overcharge.
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
April 21 2013 19:41 GMT
#3044
On April 22 2013 04:37 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:36 Topdoller wrote:
Drunkenboi looks a crap player who will die to any player who can take the game past 15 mins. I feel sorry for Incontrol losing to him

why? incontrol gets paid money to do this, drunkboi is just some abusive amateur. it was up to incontrol to show that. and he failed pretty badly at it.


An awful lot of abusive amateurs at the top of gm league these days, right? You guys are unbelievable.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 21 2013 19:41 GMT
#3045
Wow Htomario, the guy that killed me.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 21 2013 19:41 GMT
#3046
GOGOGO Tyler :D
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
April 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#3047
On April 22 2013 04:41 DaCruise wrote:
I think iNcontroL can be perfectly happy with his overall performance in the qualifiers. He made it further than I thought he would.


He didn't beat anyone I wouldn't expect him to. So should be a standard performance for him.
Never make a hydralisk.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#3048
These should be fun games. Mech TvP is always fun to watch as a meching Terran myself, but I can't root against NonY.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
April 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#3049
MaSa was DQ'd vs brent in losers bracket as he did not show up on time
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#3050
woot, i've been watching Mario's replay packs and i never watch replay packs but i fuckin love his mech style. this should be fun.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#3051
First Incontrol v T, now Nony v T. Let's see if the USA old-guard can survive against the up and comers.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#3052
So HTOMario gets credit for a Korean kill!
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
April 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#3053
On April 22 2013 04:41 stuchiu wrote:
Wow Htomario, the guy that killed me.


You could potentially say "Oh yeah me and Nony lost to the same guy." Works out nicely for you.
Life is Good.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
April 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#3054
woooo Mario my mech saviour.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#3055
On April 22 2013 04:41 DaCruise wrote:
I think iNcontroL can be perfectly happy with his overall performance in the qualifiers. He made it further than I thought he would.


Same. People saying "Drunkenboi won't even qualify"...lol, and you think Incontrol would? Not every personality in the SC2 scene is someone with actual competitive viability. InC is very valuable to EG, but not as a player. He had some fun trying to qualify, but you guys really think he expected to do much better?
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
April 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#3056
On April 22 2013 04:40 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 04:37 Sub40APM wrote:
On April 22 2013 04:36 Topdoller wrote:
Drunkenboi looks a crap player who will die to any player who can take the game past 15 mins. I feel sorry for Incontrol losing to him

why? incontrol gets paid money to do this, drunkboi is just some abusive amateur. it was up to incontrol to show that. and he failed pretty badly at it.


I think it is a pretty well established fact at this point that iNcontroL is more of a community figure than a progamer at this point. I believe he have said this plenty of times himself.


he should probably give up his pro spot on EG and give it to some up and comer tbh, maybe be a rep for monster or whatever company wants him to hawk their products to kids
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
April 21 2013 19:43 GMT
#3057
On April 22 2013 04:42 NMxhendralisk wrote:
MaSa was DQ'd vs brent in losers bracket as he did not show up on time


That's really unfortunate. MaSa is quite an impressive player, and did really well last NASL.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
frankfasthands
Profile Joined August 2012
10 Posts
April 21 2013 19:43 GMT
#3058
Means Mario knocked out a Korean last round. MotoK. Impressive.
EL33T_COL
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada68 Posts
April 21 2013 19:43 GMT
#3059
No zerg qualified yet? 0o
À vaincre sans péril on triomphe sans gloire
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
April 21 2013 19:43 GMT
#3060
Looking at that window before this game, I said to myself... Hey, is that a park there in the middle? And then unbidden came the voice of JP McDaniels.

+ Show Spoiler +
His voice told me, "Bitches love parks."


Hey, it's Mario!

And NONY!
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
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