• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 00:38
CEST 06:38
KST 13:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202538Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up0LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11 Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 627 users

[Code S] RO32 Group F 2013 WCS Korea Season 1 - Page 37

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 95 Next
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
April 17 2013 10:42 GMT
#721
Hyun
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
April 17 2013 10:42 GMT
#722
On April 17 2013 19:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 19:40 McBengt wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
The more i watch Gumiho the more i realize he will always be around the top. What an awesome player.


I think Rain stomps him though, cheese notwithstanding.


Entirely possible, but my point still stands, Gumiho is awesome. Its just that Rain is a little bit more awesome.


Oh Gumiho is absolutely good, no argument from me.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
April 17 2013 10:42 GMT
#723
The advertised games are just embarrassing...
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 10:43:10
April 17 2013 10:42 GMT
#724
On April 17 2013 19:40 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 19:38 Blaec wrote:
Did Hyun just think Gumi was going to play mech?

Because these roaches are just not useful.

It's a 3-bases all-in that GuMiho scouted, recognized and hard countered with defensive Tanks while drops wreak havoc in the undefended bases.

He scouted 3 barracks with addons no more to say.
Stork[gm]
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
April 17 2013 10:42 GMT
#725
On April 17 2013 19:41 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 19:36 pmp10 wrote:
Hyun looks a bit lost in HotS.
Maybe quantic is not a prime training environment.


How can a foreign team be anything but a terrible training environment? It's a non existent one.

Players like TaeJa seem to be doing just fine training on ladder only.
Albeit, to be honest, I fully expect more regimented practicers to gradually but inevitably take over the ladder-grinders.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 17 2013 10:42 GMT
#726
On April 17 2013 19:41 isaachukfan wrote:
ZooZoo bubble is too cute....


I turn up the volume when it's zoozoo bubble time

It makes me happy
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
mTcde
Profile Joined August 2012
5 Posts
April 17 2013 10:43 GMT
#727
whats the song playing now? Anyone knows?
Magic_Mike
Profile Joined May 2010
United States542 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 10:43:59
April 17 2013 10:43 GMT
#728
Ever since HOTS I haven't been able to get any of these right. I said Hyun and Innovation go through. No only one of them can if either. I used to be good at this crap.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 17 2013 10:43 GMT
#729
On April 17 2013 19:42 WigglingSquid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 19:41 Dodgin wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:36 pmp10 wrote:
Hyun looks a bit lost in HotS.
Maybe quantic is not a prime training environment.


How can a foreign team be anything but a terrible training environment? It's a non existent one.

Players like TaeJa seem to be doing just fine training on ladder only.
Albeit, to be honest, I fully expect more regimented practicers to gradually but inevitably take over the ladder-grinders.


Yeah some players do fine by themselves, I'm just wondering how anyone could think zombie quantic is any more than being teamless for hyun, he probably practices with his ex-TSL buddies from home and plays ladder. he could do the same without a team.
ShaDyNHG
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany9 Posts
April 17 2013 10:44 GMT
#730
song is Davey Suicide - One More Night
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8516 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 10:45:51
April 17 2013 10:44 GMT
#731
On April 17 2013 19:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 19:36 lichter wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:32 Doublemint wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:29 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:27 Doublemint wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:21 Wafflelisk wrote:
Can't wait to face this kind of push on ladder


I've already been using a similar push on ladder.

Hellion opening and try and force roaches. If they go roaches go for a Marine/Marauder/Helbat/Medivac push which completely annihilates roaches.

Best way to hold it is really just speedling/baneling even if its counter-intuitive.


I was wondering about that as well, as Hellbats are bio, they get demolished by Banelings don't they?


They're Light/Biological/Mechanical.

The Light is what makes the Banelings extra effective not the biological.

The thing is, Helbats are clunky as hell and really hard to split vs Banelings and as long as you can eliminate those, speedlings alone can pretty much handle the rest.


Ah ok thanks. Good to know cuz as Toss I too struggle vs those beefy Mofos what is about as cost efficient as possible to get vs them.


Anything that's good vs MMM is good vs Helbats for the most part. The only thing the Helbats are really good against are Zealots and in some situations Immortals.

Collosus, Archons, and Psionic Storm all deal with them rather easily.

Of course vs Protoss Helbats generally are throwaway units meant to tank for your bioball or Siege Tanks, so the trick is eliminating the Helbats quickly without forcing an engagement vs the main army, sort of similar to how Terrans try to pick off Zealots before engaging in order to get a better shot at killing Collosus.


I tried mass hellbats and hellions vs immortals in monobattles

Failed miserably.


What makes Helbats useful vs Immortals is that they block Immortals from being able to get in range of Thors or Siege Tanks and since the Helbats are light units with a lot of hit points they are not easily dispatched by the Immortals which gives the more expensive units behind them plenty of time to deal their damage.


Yeah true dat and good piece of info - the fact that Immos can't do their massive damage benefits some Terran Mech pushes as well I feel, WCS EU yesterday was testimony to that. Though Ts gained huge leads by killing a shitton of eco early in those instances so no idea how it will turn out if both are on about equal footing.
mTcde
Profile Joined August 2012
5 Posts
April 17 2013 10:44 GMT
#732
On April 17 2013 19:44 ShaDyNHG wrote:
song is Davey Suicide - One More Night


thx a lot
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 10:45:41
April 17 2013 10:44 GMT
#733
On April 17 2013 18:28 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 18:26 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On April 17 2013 18:25 Yello wrote:
On April 17 2013 18:22 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On April 17 2013 18:21 KristofferAG wrote:
On April 17 2013 18:13 Dodgin wrote:
On April 17 2013 18:12 KristofferAG wrote:
On April 17 2013 18:12 Yello wrote:
On April 17 2013 18:10 Dodgin wrote:
we need a shellshock vs opterown showmatch I would watch it


I still want to organize a KotH with all LR regulars. Winner is allowed to ban someone like in the ABL FPL group ^.^

I didn't think any LR regulars played SC2.


hey I'm masters fuck you

WoL ladder doesn't count these days.


I'd probably be WoL GM now.


I guess I'll just start organizing a tournament via binarybeast or something. We are shit-talking so much already, let's get this going so we can show what we got.
Also: BM, offensive gg-ing and bashing Seeker should be mandatory


Totally in for that. I'm not even terrible at the game, I played around masters level when I still had time. Now I'm happy to get 5 games in a day T_T

only quality posters can play sorry


I just saw that wtf bm

You don't even play the damn game haha
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 17 2013 10:44 GMT
#734
The roach build hyun does where he uses 10 roaches to assault the terran and drones behind it works, but you gotta play safe after droning while attacking. Hyun went apeshit, it seems. Too bad I can't watch anything cause lectures are the shit for this teacher.
The Bomber boy
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 17 2013 10:44 GMT
#735
That song is a bit too spammy for me :D
Arrtee
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia102 Posts
April 17 2013 10:45 GMT
#736
OMG - If I have to listen to this Mother ad. one more time............

It is on loop
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
April 17 2013 10:45 GMT
#737
On April 17 2013 19:43 Magic_Mike wrote:
Every since HOTS I haven't been able to get any of these right. I said Hyun and Innovation go through. No only one of them can if either. I used to be good at this crap.


Innovation is going through 100%. I counted out HyuN from the start, for me it has always been about if Rain or Gumiho goes through.
hundred thousand krouner
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 17 2013 10:46 GMT
#738
On April 17 2013 19:44 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 19:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:36 lichter wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:32 Doublemint wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:29 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:27 Doublemint wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
On April 17 2013 19:21 Wafflelisk wrote:
Can't wait to face this kind of push on ladder


I've already been using a similar push on ladder.

Hellion opening and try and force roaches. If they go roaches go for a Marine/Marauder/Helbat/Medivac push which completely annihilates roaches.

Best way to hold it is really just speedling/baneling even if its counter-intuitive.


I was wondering about that as well, as Hellbats are bio, they get demolished by Banelings don't they?


They're Light/Biological/Mechanical.

The Light is what makes the Banelings extra effective not the biological.

The thing is, Helbats are clunky as hell and really hard to split vs Banelings and as long as you can eliminate those, speedlings alone can pretty much handle the rest.


Ah ok thanks. Good to know cuz as Toss I too struggle vs those beefy Mofos what is about as cost efficient as possible to get vs them.


Anything that's good vs MMM is good vs Helbats for the most part. The only thing the Helbats are really good against are Zealots and in some situations Immortals.

Collosus, Archons, and Psionic Storm all deal with them rather easily.

Of course vs Protoss Helbats generally are throwaway units meant to tank for your bioball or Siege Tanks, so the trick is eliminating the Helbats quickly without forcing an engagement vs the main army, sort of similar to how Terrans try to pick off Zealots before engaging in order to get a better shot at killing Collosus.


I tried mass hellbats and hellions vs immortals in monobattles

Failed miserably.


What makes Helbats useful vs Immortals is that they block Immortals from being able to get in range of Thors or Siege Tanks and since the Helbats are light units with a lot of hit points they are not easily dispatched by the Immortals which gives the more expensive units behind them plenty of time to deal their damage.


Yeah, good true dat - the fact that Immos can't do their massive damage benefits some Terran Mech pushes as well I feel, WCS EU yesterday was testimony to that. Though Ts gained huge leads by killing a shitton of eco early in those instances so no idea how it will turn out if both are on about equal footing.

Just like in WoL, mech in TvP "works" only when Terran gets a massive economic advantage (either with greed or Probes BBQ, or both) or Protoss is clueless about how to deal with mech.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 17 2013 10:46 GMT
#739
On April 17 2013 19:45 Zheryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 19:43 Magic_Mike wrote:
Every since HOTS I haven't been able to get any of these right. I said Hyun and Innovation go through. No only one of them can if either. I used to be good at this crap.


Innovation is going through 100%. I counted out HyuN from the start, for me it has always been about if Rain or Gumiho goes through.

yeah the little I've seen of HyuN in HoTS hasn't been great + he's not in the best team situation for practice. I pretty much had him going out with Bogus and Rain advancing thinking that GuMiho could mess it up but he's the underdog
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 11:06:16
April 17 2013 10:47 GMT
#740
gonna go conspiracy keanu on this, but what if eSF wants all the spots? match fixing, dun dun duuun.

EDIT: Sorry for this. I'm stupid.

User was warned for this post
The Bomber boy
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 95 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6h 22m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 216
-ZergGirl 29
StarCraft: Brood War
ggaemo 637
Leta 207
Bale 22
Icarus 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever1118
XaKoH 4
League of Legends
JimRising 796
febbydoto10
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K465
semphis_23
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor113
Other Games
summit1g10192
shahzam1764
WinterStarcraft405
ViBE243
Maynarde124
NeuroSwarm66
RuFF_SC248
JuggernautJason28
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1049
BasetradeTV36
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH208
• davetesta53
• practicex 42
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 119
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1623
• Lourlo1252
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
6h 22m
OSC
19h 22m
Stormgate Nexus
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.