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Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4161
Krass is outplaying the heck out of Harstem...
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4162
On April 17 2013 05:07 Musicus wrote:
Xlord vs Runa is even in english even though there is a german flag next to the stream.

http://www.twitch.tv/instarcrafttv

He switched for the Swedes that came to his stream for RunA.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4163
On April 17 2013 04:56 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 04:43 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:39 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:34 Serimek wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:31 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:23 govie wrote:
I am just absolutely enjoying myself with these amateurs, semi pro's and pros... so much fun!


Yeps, the scene has been missing this for sure. Last 2 days have been very exciting for me and alot of fun to watch


European scene is the most pleasant to see imo. Sure it does not have the same level of play than Korea, but everything else is best.


NA has the best characters/personalities

No.


It quite clearly does. There are some Europeans with character like White Ra, Stephano and Naniwa. But most EU players are as faceless as any Korean.

NA have always done a brilliant job at marketing the personalities of their players (especially EG obviously).



No. Njet. No. Nein. Non. Neen. Nie.

There are a shitton of interesting people, not only skilled but just plain awesome in their own way.


I would rather watch sexy girls fighting with pillows than watch bad sc2 players. Being interesting shouldnt be the main characteristic of a sc2 pro imo.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4164
On April 17 2013 05:08 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:07 Musicus wrote:
Xlord vs Runa is even in english even though there is a german flag next to the stream.

http://www.twitch.tv/instarcrafttv

He switched for the Swedes that came to his stream for RunA.


Wow, that's really cool.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4165
This German player Krass is indeed playing pretty damn impressive SC2. How come we've never heard about him before?!
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12620 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4166
Something wrong with the aligulac posted, Tails is still in and duckdeok is out
No will to live, no wish to die
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4167
On April 17 2013 05:06 Yhamm wrote:
(Z)XlorD 1-0 (P)RunA : http://www.twitch.tv/instarcrafttv
(P)Harstem 0-0 (T)KrasS : http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv & http://www.twitch.tv/eslspain & http://www.twitch.tv/nasltv & http://www.twitch.tv/mori09tv
(P)PandaTank 1-0 (Z)Avekatten : http://www.twitch.tv/gamesocialtv & http://www.twitch.tv/gamerpet
(P)ShoWTimE 0-0 (Z)Tefel : http://www.twitch.tv/esl_fr_tv2 & http://www.twitch.tv/esl_poland2 & http://www.twitch.tv/WCS_Europe
(P)Welmu 0-0 (Z)LiveZerg : http://www.twitch.tv/empiretvzerg


Your are awesome, thanks.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#4168
On April 17 2013 05:08 AyaaLa wrote:
Shuttle with some sick nuke play. He killed 10-15 festors with a nuke. OMFG. Insane TvZ series from those two players.

Do we know what stream he'll be on next? I'd like to see some of his play
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Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#4169
Man Krass is the EU MMA. Holy drop multitasking!
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#4170
On April 17 2013 05:07 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:02 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:54 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:50 DJHelium wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:43 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:39 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
[quote]

NA has the best characters/personalities

No.


It quite clearly does. There are some Europeans with character like White Ra, Stephano and Naniwa. But most EU players are as faceless as any Korean.

NA have always done a brilliant job at marketing the personalities of their players (especially EG obviously).



I don't want to bash NA, just defend EU. There are tons of players here with great personality! Those you mentioned of course, but also Grubby (!!!), Demuslim, Mana, Dimaga, Thorzain, ToD, Snute, TLO, Ret etc.



Most of those players aren't really interesting except Grubby and Demuslim (who's really NA scene anyway). The ability to speak English doesn't make you interesting by default.


So what makes the USA guys more interesting? I would like to hear your opinion.


Because they have more unique personalities, more players who have strong opinions about the game and share them regularly with fans. They also have more big rivalries (Huk vs Idra, Idra vs Minigun, Demuslim vs Violet) where there's more to the game than just the game itself.

Some EU players have this but they're with Koreans (Stephano vs Polt, Naniwa vs Nestea).

There's too many bland nice guys in EU (Thorzain, Grubby etc..) and not enough guys with a bit of an edge to them.


So the interesting people are: 2x Idra, HuK, Minigun, DeMuslim (A European) and Violet (A Korean).

Wow! Really interesting scene man!
]

Also Incontrol who is by far the most interesting personality in Sc2 and Huk, QXC and Catz. Scarlett is boring in terms of personality but has a great story which is a decent substitute.


If NA was so interesting blizzard would not have send 20 koreans to get that scene rollin' and just 5 to EU....


This conversation has run it's course now but this statement is so dumb. The reason Koreans aren't playing WCS EU is because they almost all chose not too because of the lag.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
April 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#4171
On April 17 2013 05:07 HereBeDragons wrote:
Funfact: The french stream will never cast any player whose name starts with K since they can't pronounce it !

uh? o_O
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nicknup
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil316 Posts
April 16 2013 20:10 GMT
#4172
Krass macro and drop play amazing
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
April 16 2013 20:10 GMT
#4173
KrasS dropping like a true Terran boss with Bio!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#4174
On April 17 2013 05:08 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:07 Musicus wrote:
Xlord vs Runa is even in english even though there is a german flag next to the stream.

http://www.twitch.tv/instarcrafttv

He switched for the Swedes that came to his stream for RunA.


That's nice of him!
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:11:44
April 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#4175
On April 17 2013 05:09 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:07 HereBeDragons wrote:
Funfact: The french stream will never cast any player whose name starts with K since they can't pronounce it !

uh? o_O

Krass was casted on the French stream against Adel and they pronounced him perfect.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#4176
Imagine if Krass could keep up his scv production during a game like that
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:12:04
April 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#4177
On April 17 2013 05:08 Ghanburighan wrote:
This German player Krass is indeed playing pretty damn impressive SC2. How come we've never heard about him before?!


thing is he is one of the best german players, but dosnt play many tourneys.
last wcs he was playing really good aswell.
people should know him !
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 16 2013 20:12 GMT
#4178
On April 17 2013 05:08 Ghanburighan wrote:
This German player Krass is indeed playing pretty damn impressive SC2. How come we've never heard about him before?!

Because he is focussing on his studies.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:12:39
April 16 2013 20:12 GMT
#4179
On April 17 2013 05:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:07 govie wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:02 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:54 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:50 DJHelium wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:43 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:39 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
[quote]
No.


It quite clearly does. There are some Europeans with character like White Ra, Stephano and Naniwa. But most EU players are as faceless as any Korean.

NA have always done a brilliant job at marketing the personalities of their players (especially EG obviously).



I don't want to bash NA, just defend EU. There are tons of players here with great personality! Those you mentioned of course, but also Grubby (!!!), Demuslim, Mana, Dimaga, Thorzain, ToD, Snute, TLO, Ret etc.



Most of those players aren't really interesting except Grubby and Demuslim (who's really NA scene anyway). The ability to speak English doesn't make you interesting by default.


So what makes the USA guys more interesting? I would like to hear your opinion.


Because they have more unique personalities, more players who have strong opinions about the game and share them regularly with fans. They also have more big rivalries (Huk vs Idra, Idra vs Minigun, Demuslim vs Violet) where there's more to the game than just the game itself.

Some EU players have this but they're with Koreans (Stephano vs Polt, Naniwa vs Nestea).

There's too many bland nice guys in EU (Thorzain, Grubby etc..) and not enough guys with a bit of an edge to them.


So the interesting people are: 2x Idra, HuK, Minigun, DeMuslim (A European) and Violet (A Korean).

Wow! Really interesting scene man!
]

Also Incontrol who is by far the most interesting personality in Sc2 and Huk, QXC and Catz. Scarlett is boring in terms of personality but has a great story which is a decent substitute.


If NA was so interesting blizzard would not have send 20 koreans to get that scene rollin' and just 5 to EU....


This conversation has run it's course now but this statement is so dumb. The reason Koreans aren't playing WCS EU is because they almost all chose not too because of the lag.

More important: the EU/US teams send almost all their Korean players to the US.
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
April 16 2013 20:12 GMT
#4180
Krass, Sexlord and Showtime all playing well today, gogo Germany!
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