• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:12
CEST 00:12
KST 07:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy2[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
BSL Season 234Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10Official StarCraft website teases new content ahead of BlizzCon?179
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) SC4ALL II: StarCraft 2 Player Announcement 8/8 The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser Yamato Cup Series
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
BSL Season 23 Bot on ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy
Tourneys
[BSL23] SM: Ret vs TerrOr -> DragOn vs StRyKeR [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro16 Group D [ASL22] Ro16 Group B
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine All you football fans (soccer)! Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Gaming Intensity, Problemati…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Dreaming of BW patches (mod…
c3rberUs
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10090 users

[WCS EU] Premier Division Qualifiers - Page 209

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 207 208 209 210 211 355 Next
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4161
Krass is outplaying the heck out of Harstem...
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4162
On April 17 2013 05:07 Musicus wrote:
Xlord vs Runa is even in english even though there is a german flag next to the stream.

http://www.twitch.tv/instarcrafttv

He switched for the Swedes that came to his stream for RunA.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4163
On April 17 2013 04:56 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 04:43 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:39 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:34 Serimek wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:31 Benjamin99 wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:23 govie wrote:
I am just absolutely enjoying myself with these amateurs, semi pro's and pros... so much fun!


Yeps, the scene has been missing this for sure. Last 2 days have been very exciting for me and alot of fun to watch


European scene is the most pleasant to see imo. Sure it does not have the same level of play than Korea, but everything else is best.


NA has the best characters/personalities

No.


It quite clearly does. There are some Europeans with character like White Ra, Stephano and Naniwa. But most EU players are as faceless as any Korean.

NA have always done a brilliant job at marketing the personalities of their players (especially EG obviously).



No. Njet. No. Nein. Non. Neen. Nie.

There are a shitton of interesting people, not only skilled but just plain awesome in their own way.


I would rather watch sexy girls fighting with pillows than watch bad sc2 players. Being interesting shouldnt be the main characteristic of a sc2 pro imo.
・゚✧:・゚+..。✧・゚:・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚ ゜・:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING *・゜・:・゚✧:・゚✧。゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:・゜・:・゚✧::・・:・゚・゚
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4164
On April 17 2013 05:08 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:07 Musicus wrote:
Xlord vs Runa is even in english even though there is a german flag next to the stream.

http://www.twitch.tv/instarcrafttv

He switched for the Swedes that came to his stream for RunA.


Wow, that's really cool.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4165
This German player Krass is indeed playing pretty damn impressive SC2. How come we've never heard about him before?!
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12535 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4166
Something wrong with the aligulac posted, Tails is still in and duckdeok is out
No will to live, no wish to die
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4167
On April 17 2013 05:06 Yhamm wrote:
(Z)XlorD 1-0 (P)RunA : http://www.twitch.tv/instarcrafttv
(P)Harstem 0-0 (T)KrasS : http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv & http://www.twitch.tv/eslspain & http://www.twitch.tv/nasltv & http://www.twitch.tv/mori09tv
(P)PandaTank 1-0 (Z)Avekatten : http://www.twitch.tv/gamesocialtv & http://www.twitch.tv/gamerpet
(P)ShoWTimE 0-0 (Z)Tefel : http://www.twitch.tv/esl_fr_tv2 & http://www.twitch.tv/esl_poland2 & http://www.twitch.tv/WCS_Europe
(P)Welmu 0-0 (Z)LiveZerg : http://www.twitch.tv/empiretvzerg


Your are awesome, thanks.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#4168
On April 17 2013 05:08 AyaaLa wrote:
Shuttle with some sick nuke play. He killed 10-15 festors with a nuke. OMFG. Insane TvZ series from those two players.

Do we know what stream he'll be on next? I'd like to see some of his play
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#4169
Man Krass is the EU MMA. Holy drop multitasking!
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#4170
On April 17 2013 05:07 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:02 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:54 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:50 DJHelium wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:43 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:39 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
[quote]

NA has the best characters/personalities

No.


It quite clearly does. There are some Europeans with character like White Ra, Stephano and Naniwa. But most EU players are as faceless as any Korean.

NA have always done a brilliant job at marketing the personalities of their players (especially EG obviously).



I don't want to bash NA, just defend EU. There are tons of players here with great personality! Those you mentioned of course, but also Grubby (!!!), Demuslim, Mana, Dimaga, Thorzain, ToD, Snute, TLO, Ret etc.



Most of those players aren't really interesting except Grubby and Demuslim (who's really NA scene anyway). The ability to speak English doesn't make you interesting by default.


So what makes the USA guys more interesting? I would like to hear your opinion.


Because they have more unique personalities, more players who have strong opinions about the game and share them regularly with fans. They also have more big rivalries (Huk vs Idra, Idra vs Minigun, Demuslim vs Violet) where there's more to the game than just the game itself.

Some EU players have this but they're with Koreans (Stephano vs Polt, Naniwa vs Nestea).

There's too many bland nice guys in EU (Thorzain, Grubby etc..) and not enough guys with a bit of an edge to them.


So the interesting people are: 2x Idra, HuK, Minigun, DeMuslim (A European) and Violet (A Korean).

Wow! Really interesting scene man!
]

Also Incontrol who is by far the most interesting personality in Sc2 and Huk, QXC and Catz. Scarlett is boring in terms of personality but has a great story which is a decent substitute.


If NA was so interesting blizzard would not have send 20 koreans to get that scene rollin' and just 5 to EU....


This conversation has run it's course now but this statement is so dumb. The reason Koreans aren't playing WCS EU is because they almost all chose not too because of the lag.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
April 16 2013 20:09 GMT
#4171
On April 17 2013 05:07 HereBeDragons wrote:
Funfact: The french stream will never cast any player whose name starts with K since they can't pronounce it !

uh? o_O
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
nicknup
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil316 Posts
April 16 2013 20:10 GMT
#4172
Krass macro and drop play amazing
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
April 16 2013 20:10 GMT
#4173
KrasS dropping like a true Terran boss with Bio!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#4174
On April 17 2013 05:08 grs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:07 Musicus wrote:
Xlord vs Runa is even in english even though there is a german flag next to the stream.

http://www.twitch.tv/instarcrafttv

He switched for the Swedes that came to his stream for RunA.


That's nice of him!
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:11:44
April 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#4175
On April 17 2013 05:09 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:07 HereBeDragons wrote:
Funfact: The french stream will never cast any player whose name starts with K since they can't pronounce it !

uh? o_O

Krass was casted on the French stream against Adel and they pronounced him perfect.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#4176
Imagine if Krass could keep up his scv production during a game like that
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:12:04
April 16 2013 20:11 GMT
#4177
On April 17 2013 05:08 Ghanburighan wrote:
This German player Krass is indeed playing pretty damn impressive SC2. How come we've never heard about him before?!


thing is he is one of the best german players, but dosnt play many tourneys.
last wcs he was playing really good aswell.
people should know him !
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 16 2013 20:12 GMT
#4178
On April 17 2013 05:08 Ghanburighan wrote:
This German player Krass is indeed playing pretty damn impressive SC2. How come we've never heard about him before?!

Because he is focussing on his studies.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:12:39
April 16 2013 20:12 GMT
#4179
On April 17 2013 05:09 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:07 govie wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:02 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:54 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:50 DJHelium wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:43 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:39 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
[quote]
No.


It quite clearly does. There are some Europeans with character like White Ra, Stephano and Naniwa. But most EU players are as faceless as any Korean.

NA have always done a brilliant job at marketing the personalities of their players (especially EG obviously).



I don't want to bash NA, just defend EU. There are tons of players here with great personality! Those you mentioned of course, but also Grubby (!!!), Demuslim, Mana, Dimaga, Thorzain, ToD, Snute, TLO, Ret etc.



Most of those players aren't really interesting except Grubby and Demuslim (who's really NA scene anyway). The ability to speak English doesn't make you interesting by default.


So what makes the USA guys more interesting? I would like to hear your opinion.


Because they have more unique personalities, more players who have strong opinions about the game and share them regularly with fans. They also have more big rivalries (Huk vs Idra, Idra vs Minigun, Demuslim vs Violet) where there's more to the game than just the game itself.

Some EU players have this but they're with Koreans (Stephano vs Polt, Naniwa vs Nestea).

There's too many bland nice guys in EU (Thorzain, Grubby etc..) and not enough guys with a bit of an edge to them.


So the interesting people are: 2x Idra, HuK, Minigun, DeMuslim (A European) and Violet (A Korean).

Wow! Really interesting scene man!
]

Also Incontrol who is by far the most interesting personality in Sc2 and Huk, QXC and Catz. Scarlett is boring in terms of personality but has a great story which is a decent substitute.


If NA was so interesting blizzard would not have send 20 koreans to get that scene rollin' and just 5 to EU....


This conversation has run it's course now but this statement is so dumb. The reason Koreans aren't playing WCS EU is because they almost all chose not too because of the lag.

More important: the EU/US teams send almost all their Korean players to the US.
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
April 16 2013 20:12 GMT
#4180
Krass, Sexlord and Showtime all playing well today, gogo Germany!
Prev 1 207 208 209 210 211 355 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
S23 - Announcement Showmatch
Ret vs TerrOr
DragOn vs StRyKeR
ZZZero.O170
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech142
JuggernautJason79
SpeCial 54
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 477
Artosis 257
ZZZero.O 170
NaDa 22
Dota 2
monkeys_forever285
NeuroSwarm104
League of Legends
Doublelift3331
JimRising 454
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby3052
Liquid`Hasu507
Khaldor246
Other Games
summit1g7421
FrodaN2991
Liquid`RaSZi2067
XaKoH 548
KnowMe248
ZombieGrub64
Mew2King62
CosmosSc2 20
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 93
• mYiSmile122
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21844
Other Games
• Scarra795
• imaqtpie513
• Shiphtur165
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
1h 48m
Afreeca Starleague
11h 48m
Shine vs Rush
WardiTV Weekly
12h 48m
Monday Night Weeklies
17h 48m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 11h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 11h
Light vs EffOrt
OSC
1d 13h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
GSL
6 days
Yamato Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

K-JUNGMAN
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.