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Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 16 2013 20:03 GMT
#4141
On April 17 2013 05:01 Bagi wrote:
USA guys Demuslim and Violet, I guess that says it all really?


Scene over nationality. Or is Spanish football bad because Messi and Ronaldo doesn't count?
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
April 16 2013 20:03 GMT
#4142
Xlord 1:0!
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 16 2013 20:03 GMT
#4143
On April 17 2013 05:02 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 04:59 DeathProfessor wrote:
I feel like NA players are overall okay...
We have the best personality casters though!

/adds fuel to fire


Vasa dude, Vasa. Discussion over.


Agree. Vasa is the most amazing shout caster ever hehe
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
ibraishome
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany337 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:05:34
April 16 2013 20:03 GMT
#4144
On April 17 2013 05:03 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:01 Bagi wrote:
USA guys Demuslim and Violet, I guess that says it all really?


Scene over nationality. Or is Spanish football bad because Messi and Ronaldo doesn't count?


Oh my god, lol, what a whacky comparison in so many ways :D
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8778 Posts
April 16 2013 20:04 GMT
#4145
lol dat 1hp reaper.
fawns over the new helipad's rave reviews.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 16 2013 20:04 GMT
#4146
On April 17 2013 05:02 Baituri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:54 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:50 DJHelium wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:43 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:39 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:34 Serimek wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:31 Benjamin99 wrote:
[quote]

Yeps, the scene has been missing this for sure. Last 2 days have been very exciting for me and alot of fun to watch


European scene is the most pleasant to see imo. Sure it does not have the same level of play than Korea, but everything else is best.


NA has the best characters/personalities

No.


It quite clearly does. There are some Europeans with character like White Ra, Stephano and Naniwa. But most EU players are as faceless as any Korean.

NA have always done a brilliant job at marketing the personalities of their players (especially EG obviously).



I don't want to bash NA, just defend EU. There are tons of players here with great personality! Those you mentioned of course, but also Grubby (!!!), Demuslim, Mana, Dimaga, Thorzain, ToD, Snute, TLO, Ret etc.



Most of those players aren't really interesting except Grubby and Demuslim (who's really NA scene anyway). The ability to speak English doesn't make you interesting by default.


So what makes the USA guys more interesting? I would like to hear your opinion.


Because they have more unique personalities, more players who have strong opinions about the game and share them regularly with fans. They also have more big rivalries (Huk vs Idra, Idra vs Minigun, Demuslim vs Violet) where there's more to the game than just the game itself.

Some EU players have this but they're with Koreans (Stephano vs Polt, Naniwa vs Nestea).

There's too many bland nice guys in EU (Thorzain, Grubby etc..) and not enough guys with a bit of an edge to them.


So the interesting people are: 2x Idra, HuK, Minigun, DeMuslim (A European) and Violet (A Korean).

Wow! Really interesting scene man!
]

Also Incontrol who is by far the most interesting personality in Sc2 and Huk, QXC and Catz. Scarlett is boring in terms of personality but has a great story which is a decent substitute.
Firlefanz
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:06:25
April 16 2013 20:05 GMT
#4147
On April 17 2013 05:02 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 04:59 DeathProfessor wrote:
I feel like NA players are overall okay...
We have the best personality casters though!

/adds fuel to fire


Vasa dude, Vasa. Discussion over.

That's something noone can argue about.
Any fellow ShoWTimE fans here by the way? Does anyone know what his games vs Tefel are like?

Edit: Oh, the games are on Kalaeris stream.
Baituri
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1501 Posts
April 16 2013 20:05 GMT
#4148
On April 17 2013 05:03 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:01 Bagi wrote:
USA guys Demuslim and Violet, I guess that says it all really?


Scene over nationality. Or is Spanish football bad because Messi and Ronaldo doesn't count?

Nice example... Spain is the winner of the last two European Championships and the last World Championship...
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12620 Posts
April 16 2013 20:05 GMT
#4149
Yeah that's exactly what I had been missing since Kespa vs Esf, more pointless comparison of scenes. Thank you.
No will to live, no wish to die
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 16 2013 20:06 GMT
#4150
PandaTank 1-0 Avekatten, Game 2 on Akilon Wastes
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:07:46
April 16 2013 20:06 GMT
#4151
(Z)XlorD 1-0 (P)RunA : http://www.twitch.tv/instarcrafttv
(P)Harstem 0-0 (T)KrasS : http://www.twitch.tv/basetradetv & http://www.twitch.tv/eslspain & http://www.twitch.tv/nasltv & http://www.twitch.tv/mori09tv
(P)PandaTank 1-0 (Z)Avekatten : http://www.twitch.tv/gamesocialtv & http://www.twitch.tv/gamerpet
(P)ShoWTimE 0-0 (Z)Tefel : http://www.twitch.tv/esl_fr_tv2 & http://www.twitch.tv/esl_poland2 & http://www.twitch.tv/WCS_Europe
(P)Welmu 0-0 (Z)LiveZerg : http://www.twitch.tv/empiretvzerg
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
April 16 2013 20:06 GMT
#4152
Damn Lowely out vs Mentalking, 2 koreans left in the lower bracket.
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
April 16 2013 20:07 GMT
#4153
haha. Mr.Bitter: "I feel like it should be a word"
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:07:38
April 16 2013 20:07 GMT
#4154
On April 17 2013 05:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: Also Incontrol who is by far the most interesting personality in Sc2

this can't end well
Feast | Grubby | Mvp | Polt | Fantasy | Last | MMA | forGG | Leenock | Soberphano | Scarlett cutiepie
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
April 16 2013 20:07 GMT
#4155
Funfact: The french stream will never cast any player whose name starts with K since they can't pronounce it !
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
April 16 2013 20:07 GMT
#4156
Xlord vs Runa is even in english even though there is a german flag next to the stream.

http://www.twitch.tv/instarcrafttv
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KillerDucky
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States498 Posts
April 16 2013 20:07 GMT
#4157
Top 8:
                    Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    Top 16    
----------------------------------------------------------------
        Welmu     28.77%   17.00%   11.52%   42.71%    0.00%    
     duckdeok     18.43%   17.19%   21.96%   42.42%    0.00%    
     LiveZerg     15.03%   10.55%   17.13%   57.29%    0.00%    
      Strelok     12.11%   13.84%   16.46%   57.58%    0.00%    
    Avekatten     11.95%   17.21%   33.88%   36.97%    0.00%    
     ShoWTimE      6.25%   11.39%   45.21%   37.15%    0.00%    
        Tefel      4.51%    6.49%   26.14%   62.85%    0.00%    
    PandaTank      2.94%    6.33%   27.69%   63.03%    0.00%    
          sYz      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
        GoOdy      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
    DarkHydra      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
      AlaStOr      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
    HappyZerG      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
       Delphi      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
     White-Ra      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
        VERDI      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.

Bottom 8:
                     Win    Top 2    Top 4    Top 8    Top 16    
-----------------------------------------------------------------
         XlorD     23.33%   19.02%   23.16%   34.49%    0.00%    
         TAiLS     19.07%   15.97%   26.52%   38.44%    0.00%    
      ParanOid     11.91%   13.56%   25.59%   48.94%    0.00%    
       Harstem     11.84%   16.28%   27.94%   43.94%    0.00%    
      Beastyqt     11.32%    9.65%   17.47%   61.56%    0.00%    
         KrasS      8.92%    6.95%   28.07%   56.06%    0.00%    
          RunA      7.07%    8.16%   19.26%   65.51%    0.00%    
       Shuttle      6.54%   10.41%   32.00%   51.06%    0.00%    
         BlinG      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
         Storm      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
      MiNiMaTh      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
        LoWeLy      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
     Adelscott      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
    DeathAngel      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
         Daisy      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%    
       DieStar      0.00%    0.00%    0.00%    0.00%  100.00%
Estimated by Aligulac. Modify.
MarineKingPrime Forever!
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 16 2013 20:07 GMT
#4158
On April 17 2013 05:04 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 05:02 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 05:00 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:54 Baituri wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:52 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:50 DJHelium wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:43 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:39 LurkersGonnaLurk wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On April 17 2013 04:34 Serimek wrote:
[quote]

European scene is the most pleasant to see imo. Sure it does not have the same level of play than Korea, but everything else is best.


NA has the best characters/personalities

No.


It quite clearly does. There are some Europeans with character like White Ra, Stephano and Naniwa. But most EU players are as faceless as any Korean.

NA have always done a brilliant job at marketing the personalities of their players (especially EG obviously).



I don't want to bash NA, just defend EU. There are tons of players here with great personality! Those you mentioned of course, but also Grubby (!!!), Demuslim, Mana, Dimaga, Thorzain, ToD, Snute, TLO, Ret etc.



Most of those players aren't really interesting except Grubby and Demuslim (who's really NA scene anyway). The ability to speak English doesn't make you interesting by default.


So what makes the USA guys more interesting? I would like to hear your opinion.


Because they have more unique personalities, more players who have strong opinions about the game and share them regularly with fans. They also have more big rivalries (Huk vs Idra, Idra vs Minigun, Demuslim vs Violet) where there's more to the game than just the game itself.

Some EU players have this but they're with Koreans (Stephano vs Polt, Naniwa vs Nestea).

There's too many bland nice guys in EU (Thorzain, Grubby etc..) and not enough guys with a bit of an edge to them.


So the interesting people are: 2x Idra, HuK, Minigun, DeMuslim (A European) and Violet (A Korean).

Wow! Really interesting scene man!
]

Also Incontrol who is by far the most interesting personality in Sc2 and Huk, QXC and Catz. Scarlett is boring in terms of personality but has a great story which is a decent substitute.


If NA was so interesting blizzard would not have send 20 koreans to get that scene rollin' and just 5 to EU....
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4159
Krass playing like a boss?
AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-16 20:08:23
April 16 2013 20:08 GMT
#4160
Shuttle with some sick nuke play. He killed 10-15 festors with a nuke. OMFG. Insane TvZ series from those two players.
i balance whine all the time.
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