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PooLsharK
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany179 Posts
April 14 2013 12:59 GMT
#261
gogo games already it's beautiful sunny weather here i can't take it anymore. need shades closed + starcraft.
Dang ol' pretty pretty pizza
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
April 14 2013 12:59 GMT
#262
On April 14 2013 21:58 shid0x wrote:
I don't really get it...
Randomizing 1080 variables shouldn't be that hard...hell even my old atari had some random variable to generate.
ESL codding must be really shitty.


yeah because you want random seeding....

some people here really know what they are talking about.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
April 14 2013 13:00 GMT
#263
On April 14 2013 21:58 Mithriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 21:55 TeCH_TT wrote:
On April 14 2013 21:54 Dr.Sin wrote:
This is really unprofessional and unimpressive by ESL. This shouldn't be happening if they want to be part of the big leagues and be WCS Europe. At the very least they should provide an estimate for people to know when they can expect the issue to be resolved.


you should be glad that the ESL is providing a host for this event.


Why should we? tbh i would have prefered Dreamhack


But DH does not operate huge online cups and leagues as ESL, they do (awesome) DH festivals.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Leviance
Profile Joined November 2009
Germany4079 Posts
April 14 2013 13:00 GMT
#264
A full hour later, still nothing happenend :D
"Blizzard is never gonna nerf Terran because of those American and European fuck" - Korean Netizen
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
April 14 2013 13:00 GMT
#265
kaelaris is doing his first gig as a dj
I'm Quotable (IQ)
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
April 14 2013 13:01 GMT
#266
somewhere DH guys are saying "we could have a bracket by now"
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
April 14 2013 13:01 GMT
#267
On April 14 2013 21:55 TeCH_TT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 21:54 Dr.Sin wrote:
This is really unprofessional and unimpressive by ESL. This shouldn't be happening if they want to be part of the big leagues and be WCS Europe. At the very least they should provide an estimate for people to know when they can expect the issue to be resolved.


you should be glad that the ESL is providing a host for this event.

Well, it's not like we have another big tournament organiser in Europe who had 5 events last year, which all had better production than any of the SC2 IEM tournaments.
Loooui
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden348 Posts
April 14 2013 13:02 GMT
#268
ESL:s biggest fault here is not trying to give any estimated time. I won´t sit F5 their website for hours...

I also think Dreamhack would do a better job, but maybe thats just me.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
April 14 2013 13:02 GMT
#269
On April 14 2013 21:58 Mithriel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 21:55 TeCH_TT wrote:
On April 14 2013 21:54 Dr.Sin wrote:
This is really unprofessional and unimpressive by ESL. This shouldn't be happening if they want to be part of the big leagues and be WCS Europe. At the very least they should provide an estimate for people to know when they can expect the issue to be resolved.


you should be glad that the ESL is providing a host for this event.


Why should we? tbh i would have prefered Dreamhack


DH in combo with GDstudio, GDstudio doing this online stuff and Dreamhack the offline part, you cant get it much better then that imo.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
April 14 2013 13:02 GMT
#270
On April 14 2013 21:59 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 21:58 shid0x wrote:
I don't really get it...
Randomizing 1080 variables shouldn't be that hard...hell even my old atari had some random variable to generate.
ESL codding must be really shitty.


yeah because you want random seeding....

some people here really know what they are talking about.


That's why i said i didn't get it captain obvious.
And afaik esl always generate random grid.
RIP MKP
TeCH_TT
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany63 Posts
April 14 2013 13:02 GMT
#271
On April 14 2013 21:57 green.at wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 21:55 TeCH_TT wrote:
On April 14 2013 21:54 Dr.Sin wrote:
This is really unprofessional and unimpressive by ESL. This shouldn't be happening if they want to be part of the big leagues and be WCS Europe. At the very least they should provide an estimate for people to know when they can expect the issue to be resolved.


you should be glad that the ESL is providing a host for this event.


But you can also ask why they fail to do such a simple thing. Just because we get something eventually does not mean we have to settle...


yeah but I allays hear if something doesnt work: ahh this organisation is like ***, they cant solve anything they are crap as hell blablabla...

but in fact organisations like ESL were the reason why esports is so big as it is right now.
So I rather spend my energy in doing something else in the meantime than flaming over the admins/organisations.

But if thats what the people want to do.. go on
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 13:03:37
April 14 2013 13:02 GMT
#272
On April 14 2013 21:45 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
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On April 14 2013 21:40 TheBB wrote:
On April 14 2013 21:35 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
who expected them to sort out a 1024 bracket in 15 minutes?

It takes less than a second if you have a seeding rank ready.

dont be stupid.^^

Stupid? It's a simple loop with not very complicated mathematics.

On April 14 2013 21:48 DOUDOU wrote:
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On April 14 2013 21:40 TheBB wrote:
On April 14 2013 21:35 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
who expected them to sort out a 1024 bracket in 15 minutes?

It takes less than a second if you have a seeding rank ready.

i don't think all of the WCS contenders are registered at aligulac

They have to be registered at ESL of course.

On April 14 2013 21:49 TumNarDok wrote:
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On April 14 2013 21:40 TheBB wrote:
On April 14 2013 21:35 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
who expected them to sort out a 1024 bracket in 15 minutes?

It takes less than a second if you have a seeding rank ready.

Which they have, 20.000 players in the database.
BUT due to the feedback from teams who never play in Go4 cups, admins listened to this and try to insert manual seeds.
Which ofcourse if you are any goodwith databases.. can create zillion other problems

Presumably it would be prudent to have this ready before the tournament. You only need to know who signed up to make a seed, then you just strike out those who didn't check in and build your bracket. It's not magic.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 13:04:38
April 14 2013 13:03 GMT
#273
Just using the Go4sc2 stuff that was in place for the WCS qualifier probably was not the best choice . Everything with WCS was a bit rushed.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
April 14 2013 13:04 GMT
#274
On April 14 2013 22:03 s3rp wrote:
Just using the Go4sc2 for the WCS qualifier probably was not the best choice . Everything with WCS was a bit rushed.

This, and the check-in one hour before the start of a 1024-player tournament is absurd.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
April 14 2013 13:04 GMT
#275
I am honestly surprised that so many people here seem to not have expected this.
Off-season = best season
sunless
Profile Joined November 2011
62 Posts
April 14 2013 13:04 GMT
#276
wondering how they are doing it... Cannot be that long, even if you want seeds...
"-Probes transferring. -An SCV as well. A little bit of an identity problem over there."
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
April 14 2013 13:05 GMT
#277
On April 14 2013 21:59 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 21:58 shid0x wrote:
I don't really get it...
Randomizing 1080 variables shouldn't be that hard...hell even my old atari had some random variable to generate.
ESL codding must be really shitty.


yeah because you want random seeding....

some people here really know what they are talking about.

can't have a slight delay to get it perfectly sorted in the first try so it's better the next times without having everyone calling the tourney a failure before it's even started

gee this community


just watch cs:go in the meantime:
http://fr.csgo.raidcall-emsone.com/season1/finals/#Brackets
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Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 13:07:00
April 14 2013 13:06 GMT
#278
On April 14 2013 22:02 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 21:59 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
On April 14 2013 21:58 shid0x wrote:
I don't really get it...
Randomizing 1080 variables shouldn't be that hard...hell even my old atari had some random variable to generate.
ESL codding must be really shitty.


yeah because you want random seeding....

some people here really know what they are talking about.


That's why i said i didn't get it captain obvious.
And afaik esl always generate random grid.

He was sarcastic if you haven't noticed. It takes so long, because they dont want top players to meet each other in the first round. Still they do not have any record of, for example, Tails' games so they cant auto generate the bracket, cause in the end it could happen that Tails plays vs Finale in the round of 1024.
Janko
Profile Joined September 2010
Slovenia28 Posts
April 14 2013 13:07 GMT
#279
I think I won't be playing on ESL again after this.
starcraft2.si
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-14 13:09:19
April 14 2013 13:07 GMT
#280
On April 14 2013 22:04 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 22:03 s3rp wrote:
Just using the Go4sc2 for the WCS qualifier probably was not the best choice . Everything with WCS was a bit rushed.

This, and the check-in one hour before the start of a 1024-player tournament is absurd.


I don't think they expected this many players tbh. The thoughtprocess of some of the organizers was probably : "we'll just host 4 Go4Sc2 cups like we do weekly with a few more players and everything will be fine " At least this is what it looks like.

Well the playerpool interested in WCS is massive unlike normal Go4sc2.
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