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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 10 2013 09:13 GMT
#1621
On April 10 2013 18:12 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 17:56 opterown wrote:
(Z)NesTea(LG-IM) -> 북미
(T)Mvp OR (T)Academy(LG-IM) -> 유럽
(Z)viOLet(아주부) -> 북미
(P)TAiLS((T)Mvp) -> 유럽
(P)finale((T)Mvp) -> 유럽
(P)MC(SK게이밍) -> 유럽

(T)TheStC(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미
(Z)HyuN(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미
(T)Center OR (T)What(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미

(T)TaeJa(팀리퀴드) -> 북미
(P)HerO(팀리퀴드) -> 북미
(Z)Zenio(팀리퀴드) -> 북미

(P)JYP(EG) -> 북미
(T)aLive(EG) -> 북미
(P)Oz(EG) -> 북미
(Z)Jaedong(EG) -> 북미
(Z)Revival OR (Z)Saint OR (Z)HyOJavoha(EG) -> 북미

(T)MMA(에이서) -> 유럽
(Z)Miya(엑시옴) -> 북미
(T)Ryung(엑시옴) -> 북미
(T)Heart(엑시옴) -> 북미
(P)Alicia(엑시옴) -> 북미
(P)CranK(엑시옴) -> 북미

(P)Sage(루츠게이밍) -> 북미

(T)Polt(CM스톰) -> 북미
(T)ForGG(밀레니엄) -> 유럽

list of koreans switching

I thought one could only play in once WCS region? A lot of these players have Code A or S spots for the upcoming season. Heck, MC already played, for crying out loud.


I assume this means that they will forfeit their spots to play in EU/NA.
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
April 10 2013 09:13 GMT
#1622
On April 10 2013 18:12 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:06 Heartland wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:04 Zealously wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
this is so stupid. now we get 3 gsls with diluted competition instead of 1 good one


Honestly, most of the players on that list are not Code S currently. I think it will be nice for people who aren't able to watch GSL when it's live to be able to watch a bunch of good players play when they can watch. Code S will remain mostly unaffected, and there are plenty of players in Code A who are Code S-quality in my eyes, anyway.


They're not right now perhaps, but a majority of them have been regulars of Code S. Maybe things will be fine with the addition of Kespa players, but I'm still far from convinced about Kespa's overall strength. So in a worse case scenario Code S won't feel like the actual WCS that it is.


As evidenced by the way Code B/A looked last season, KeSPA and eSF pros have been eliminating themselves and each other and there simply wasn't "enough room" in Code S - last season, I personally would argue that there were at least 8 more players who could have competed on even footing in Code S that got eliminated in Code A, and a few more stuck in Code B. With the addition of KeSPA players on top of all the eSF pros who fight tooth and nail for a Code S spot, the removal of (I count) 4 Code S players and several Code A/S has-beens will not hurt the depth of GSL too much.


Sure. But we could just as well argue that a bigger group of elite players would create a super-tier of Code S and Code A becoming just as good as Code S previously was (which is sort of what happened in the last season).

But let's hope you're right here.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 10 2013 09:13 GMT
#1623
Terminator > Panic
Terminator qualifies for Code A!
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
April 10 2013 09:14 GMT
#1624
On April 10 2013 18:13 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:12 TheBB wrote:
On April 10 2013 17:56 opterown wrote:
(Z)NesTea(LG-IM) -> 북미
(T)Mvp OR (T)Academy(LG-IM) -> 유럽
(Z)viOLet(아주부) -> 북미
(P)TAiLS((T)Mvp) -> 유럽
(P)finale((T)Mvp) -> 유럽
(P)MC(SK게이밍) -> 유럽

(T)TheStC(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미
(Z)HyuN(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미
(T)Center OR (T)What(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미

(T)TaeJa(팀리퀴드) -> 북미
(P)HerO(팀리퀴드) -> 북미
(Z)Zenio(팀리퀴드) -> 북미

(P)JYP(EG) -> 북미
(T)aLive(EG) -> 북미
(P)Oz(EG) -> 북미
(Z)Jaedong(EG) -> 북미
(Z)Revival OR (Z)Saint OR (Z)HyOJavoha(EG) -> 북미

(T)MMA(에이서) -> 유럽
(Z)Miya(엑시옴) -> 북미
(T)Ryung(엑시옴) -> 북미
(T)Heart(엑시옴) -> 북미
(P)Alicia(엑시옴) -> 북미
(P)CranK(엑시옴) -> 북미

(P)Sage(루츠게이밍) -> 북미

(T)Polt(CM스톰) -> 북미
(T)ForGG(밀레니엄) -> 유럽

list of koreans switching

I thought one could only play in once WCS region? A lot of these players have Code A or S spots for the upcoming season. Heck, MC already played, for crying out loud.

I assume this means that they will forfeit their spots to play in EU/NA.

So are you saying MC will forfeit his spot after playing it?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 10 2013 09:14 GMT
#1625
On April 10 2013 18:14 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:13 Zealously wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:12 TheBB wrote:
On April 10 2013 17:56 opterown wrote:
(Z)NesTea(LG-IM) -> 북미
(T)Mvp OR (T)Academy(LG-IM) -> 유럽
(Z)viOLet(아주부) -> 북미
(P)TAiLS((T)Mvp) -> 유럽
(P)finale((T)Mvp) -> 유럽
(P)MC(SK게이밍) -> 유럽

(T)TheStC(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미
(Z)HyuN(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미
(T)Center OR (T)What(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미

(T)TaeJa(팀리퀴드) -> 북미
(P)HerO(팀리퀴드) -> 북미
(Z)Zenio(팀리퀴드) -> 북미

(P)JYP(EG) -> 북미
(T)aLive(EG) -> 북미
(P)Oz(EG) -> 북미
(Z)Jaedong(EG) -> 북미
(Z)Revival OR (Z)Saint OR (Z)HyOJavoha(EG) -> 북미

(T)MMA(에이서) -> 유럽
(Z)Miya(엑시옴) -> 북미
(T)Ryung(엑시옴) -> 북미
(T)Heart(엑시옴) -> 북미
(P)Alicia(엑시옴) -> 북미
(P)CranK(엑시옴) -> 북미

(P)Sage(루츠게이밍) -> 북미

(T)Polt(CM스톰) -> 북미
(T)ForGG(밀레니엄) -> 유럽

list of koreans switching

I thought one could only play in once WCS region? A lot of these players have Code A or S spots for the upcoming season. Heck, MC already played, for crying out loud.

I assume this means that they will forfeit their spots to play in EU/NA.

So are you saying MC will forfeit his spot after playing it?

those MC mindgames
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TL+ Member
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 10 2013 09:16 GMT
#1626
Shees protoss madness with these Qualifiers.
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
April 10 2013 09:18 GMT
#1627
NA will have an all Korea lineup with all those players switching . Europe will also have quite a few depending on how they are able to deal with the significant lag if they aren't moving to Europe that is.

Having the completely same pricepool for 3 regions that aren't even remotely close in skill was probably not the wisest choice .
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 10 2013 09:18 GMT
#1628
Hahaha, oh artosis... Got to give him big props for trying though, that he was qualified for these qualifiers means that he is at least masters on the KOR server, right? If so, that is actually incredibly impressive.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 10 2013 09:19 GMT
#1629
Everyone who moved with the exception of Taeja and Hyun are Code A or B, majority are Code B. It's like when players who can't make it in the NBA anymore go to Europe to play. :p
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
April 10 2013 09:20 GMT
#1630
I might be the only one, but I'm actually kinda excited about the Koreans taking part in the EU/NA WCS. It'll be a rocky start, but honestly I think this will be for the best long term. As long as massively more don't switch over.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 10 2013 09:21 GMT
#1631
On April 10 2013 18:14 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:13 Zealously wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:12 TheBB wrote:
On April 10 2013 17:56 opterown wrote:
(Z)NesTea(LG-IM) -> 북미
(T)Mvp OR (T)Academy(LG-IM) -> 유럽
(Z)viOLet(아주부) -> 북미
(P)TAiLS((T)Mvp) -> 유럽
(P)finale((T)Mvp) -> 유럽
(P)MC(SK게이밍) -> 유럽

(T)TheStC(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미
(Z)HyuN(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미
(T)Center OR (T)What(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미

(T)TaeJa(팀리퀴드) -> 북미
(P)HerO(팀리퀴드) -> 북미
(Z)Zenio(팀리퀴드) -> 북미

(P)JYP(EG) -> 북미
(T)aLive(EG) -> 북미
(P)Oz(EG) -> 북미
(Z)Jaedong(EG) -> 북미
(Z)Revival OR (Z)Saint OR (Z)HyOJavoha(EG) -> 북미

(T)MMA(에이서) -> 유럽
(Z)Miya(엑시옴) -> 북미
(T)Ryung(엑시옴) -> 북미
(T)Heart(엑시옴) -> 북미
(P)Alicia(엑시옴) -> 북미
(P)CranK(엑시옴) -> 북미

(P)Sage(루츠게이밍) -> 북미

(T)Polt(CM스톰) -> 북미
(T)ForGG(밀레니엄) -> 유럽

list of koreans switching

I thought one could only play in once WCS region? A lot of these players have Code A or S spots for the upcoming season. Heck, MC already played, for crying out loud.

I assume this means that they will forfeit their spots to play in EU/NA.

So are you saying MC will forfeit his spot after playing it?


According to Ethan Ahn (posted in the thread listing all the switches) there is something interesting about the MC/Hyun situation that he would like someone to translate. I'm not fluent enough in Korean to be able to read it myself, but I'm assuming there is either some kind of special deal or some rule that allows MC to switch because he played earlier than X date (I'm pulling ideas out of my ass here), or MC didn't understand the rules.

But yes, that'd what it looks like.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Iorveth
Profile Joined April 2013
Cayman Islands62 Posts
April 10 2013 09:21 GMT
#1632
On April 10 2013 18:06 sitromit wrote:
So basically Korea = Code S, best of the best, NA = Code A, EU = Code B. :p


NA will always be CodeB or even worse.
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
April 10 2013 09:21 GMT
#1633
Puzzle beat thebest 2-1? Was that last game where thebest didn't GG the last one?
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 10 2013 09:22 GMT
#1634
On April 10 2013 18:21 SniXSniPe wrote:
Puzzle beat thebest 2-1? Was that last game where thebest didn't GG the last one?

if it was on belshir vestige, then it was
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 09:24:10
April 10 2013 09:22 GMT
#1635
On April 10 2013 18:21 SniXSniPe wrote:
Puzzle beat thebest 2-1? Was that last game where thebest didn't GG the last one?

The last game wasn't streamed because code s was starting. idk if it's over yet oh yeah it's over it was just not on stream
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
April 10 2013 09:22 GMT
#1636
On April 10 2013 18:21 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:14 TheBB wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:13 Zealously wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:12 TheBB wrote:
On April 10 2013 17:56 opterown wrote:
(Z)NesTea(LG-IM) -> 북미
(T)Mvp OR (T)Academy(LG-IM) -> 유럽
(Z)viOLet(아주부) -> 북미
(P)TAiLS((T)Mvp) -> 유럽
(P)finale((T)Mvp) -> 유럽
(P)MC(SK게이밍) -> 유럽

(T)TheStC(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미
(Z)HyuN(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미
(T)Center OR (T)What(퀀틱게이밍) -> 북미

(T)TaeJa(팀리퀴드) -> 북미
(P)HerO(팀리퀴드) -> 북미
(Z)Zenio(팀리퀴드) -> 북미

(P)JYP(EG) -> 북미
(T)aLive(EG) -> 북미
(P)Oz(EG) -> 북미
(Z)Jaedong(EG) -> 북미
(Z)Revival OR (Z)Saint OR (Z)HyOJavoha(EG) -> 북미

(T)MMA(에이서) -> 유럽
(Z)Miya(엑시옴) -> 북미
(T)Ryung(엑시옴) -> 북미
(T)Heart(엑시옴) -> 북미
(P)Alicia(엑시옴) -> 북미
(P)CranK(엑시옴) -> 북미

(P)Sage(루츠게이밍) -> 북미

(T)Polt(CM스톰) -> 북미
(T)ForGG(밀레니엄) -> 유럽

list of koreans switching

I thought one could only play in once WCS region? A lot of these players have Code A or S spots for the upcoming season. Heck, MC already played, for crying out loud.

I assume this means that they will forfeit their spots to play in EU/NA.

So are you saying MC will forfeit his spot after playing it?

According to Ethan Ahn (posted in the thread listing all the switches) there is something interesting about the MC/Hyun situation that he would like someone to translate. I'm not fluent enough in Korean to be able to read it myself, but I'm assuming there is either some kind of special deal or some rule that allows MC to switch because he played earlier than X date (I'm pulling ideas out of my ass here), or MC didn't understand the rules.

But yes, that'd what it looks like.

This WCS final thing better be fucking mindblowing, that's all I'm saying...
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 10 2013 09:23 GMT
#1637
Bunny > Best
Bunny qualifies for code A
who the fuck?
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
April 10 2013 09:23 GMT
#1638
On April 10 2013 18:21 SniXSniPe wrote:
Puzzle beat thebest 2-1? Was that last game where thebest didn't GG the last one?

Only the first two games got streamed because Code S started.
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
April 10 2013 09:23 GMT
#1639
On April 10 2013 18:12 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:06 Heartland wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:04 Zealously wrote:
On April 10 2013 18:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
this is so stupid. now we get 3 gsls with diluted competition instead of 1 good one


Honestly, most of the players on that list are not Code S currently. I think it will be nice for people who aren't able to watch GSL when it's live to be able to watch a bunch of good players play when they can watch. Code S will remain mostly unaffected, and there are plenty of players in Code A who are Code S-quality in my eyes, anyway.


They're not right now perhaps, but a majority of them have been regulars of Code S. Maybe things will be fine with the addition of Kespa players, but I'm still far from convinced about Kespa's overall strength. So in a worse case scenario Code S won't feel like the actual WCS that it is.


As evidenced by the way Code B/A looked last season, KeSPA and eSF pros have been eliminating themselves and each other and there simply wasn't "enough room" in Code S - last season, I personally would argue that there were at least 8 more players who could have competed on even footing in Code S that got eliminated in Code A, and a few more stuck in Code B. With the addition of KeSPA players on top of all the eSF pros who fight tooth and nail for a Code S spot, the removal of (I count) 4 Code S players and several Code A/S has-beens will not hurt the depth of GSL too much.

I agree... You KNOW a lot of the guys in the Up/downs usually could have been code S if it wasn't for the insane surplus of godly players...
The Bomber boy
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 10 2013 09:23 GMT
#1640
Hurricane > Cure
Hurricane qualifies for code A!
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