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Kettchup

United States1911 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1961

Amazing game. I love HotS so far.

NicksonReyes

Philippines4431 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1962

DRG lost the moment he used
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flying units

DJHelium

Sweden13480 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1963

I think DongRaeGu has that game if he just continues to snipe stuff with his mutas. He can deny the 5th from Flying even after it's "secured" using blinding cloud and his mutas.

Hard call to make though. The game def. showed a situation where brood lords are much better than swarm hosts.

nihlon

Sweden5581 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1964

On April 09 2013 22:39 kubiks wrote:

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Most of his game were pretty tense, it's not like he got wiped out doing nothing....

He stayed alive for a long time with basically no income with mass muta vs storm. I don't get what expectations people have.

Ysellian

Netherlands9029 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1965

On April 09 2013 22:38 Insoleet wrote:

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Well most of pro are so inactive and waiting with their swarmhosts, its terrible play everytime.

Agreed, which is why I removed my post haha. Because it's not like we have seen actual good Swarmhost usage yet. So for the moment I'll not say anything.

Tobblish

Sweden6404 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1966

On April 09 2013 22:39 kubiks wrote:

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Most of his game were pretty tense, it's not like he got wiped out doing nothing....

His answer was massing Mutas then "hey maybe if I make some swarmhosts look awful they will get a buff"
Flying around and "microing" mutas are not hard.

Cuce

Turkey1127 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1967

did drg lose his nestea award chance?

Zinthar

United States394 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1968

On April 09 2013 22:38 Tobblish wrote:

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If DRG plays anything like he did today, he wont.

His play wasn't nearly as bad as you're implying.

Wintex

Norway16835 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1969

On April 09 2013 22:38 sinigang wrote:

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When "Code S" players weren't really Code S players after all.

gogo KeSPA!!

Really? Yoda and Bomber say hi. KeSPA, eSF.. none of it matters anymore tbh.

Kasaraki

Denmark7115 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1970

On April 09 2013 22:39 lichter wrote:
Hey Tasteless I predicted YoDa and Flying

I wanted to go YoDa and Flying originally, but saw Flying had a pretty poor PvP record, so went with MC instead.

dmnum

Brazil6910 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1971

On April 09 2013 22:39 Lysanias wrote:

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Haha let's forget the fact he scraped by

Ignore him. Flame baiting at it's worst.

Dark.Carnival

United States5095 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1972

Overall enjoyed todays group much more than the first group, even some of the MC games cuz I liked watching him lose to Flying :3

WombaT

Northern Ireland23687 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1973

Fuck, I feel for DRG

Has given us some great memories and it pains me to see him so clearly crushed.

Flying though, nothing against him either, deserved to advance!

Fjodorov

5007 Posts

April 09 2013 13:40 GMT

#1974

shouldnt talk to much about winrates of certain units. Dont forget that infestors werent even considered very useful for a long time.

TimENT

United States1425 Posts

April 09 2013 13:41 GMT

#1975

Blah blah blah swarm hosts useless

Bullshit, I see pro after pro after pro after pro after pro losing 2-3 swarm hosts over and over and over and over and over again because they are unbelievably careless with them.

FeyFey

Germany10114 Posts

April 09 2013 13:41 GMT

#1976

On April 09 2013 22:32 XupinatoR wrote:
I really feel like this regen on mutas is retarded, I mean, u can run into storms, canons, bunch of stalkers, archons or anything and it really doesnt matter because hey, i regen my hp in 30 secs...

I liked bw staked muta micro, but this is absurd.

jupp bw muta was nice. We have this on Terran now, with Medivacs, get them low and the harassment stops. But Mutas work differently now. They can harass forever unless you kill them. So they need to give everyone units that can easily one shot Mutas or dominate them.

To late to change this now though. And they made Mutas work a bit in direct engagements atleast with an hit and run style which is something nice.

Ramiz1989

12124 Posts

April 09 2013 13:41 GMT

#1977

On April 09 2013 22:38 Scarecrow wrote:

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Feels like they're more of a unit for lower level/casual players. Pros just seem to stutter step back, kill the locusts then a-move the hosts.

Actually, it feels like that those units aren't as easy to use as other Zerg units, and that majority of pros don't know how to use them. Didn't watch this game, I am at work, but from this thread, I've read that DRG was terrible at using Swarm Hosts.

On April 09 2013 22:41 TimENT wrote:
Blah blah blah swarm hosts useless

Bullshit, I see pro after pro after pro after pro after pro losing 2-3 swarm hosts over and over and over and over and over again because they are unbelievably careless with them.

Pretty much this.
They need some serious babysitting.

Yello

Germany7411 Posts

April 09 2013 13:41 GMT

#1978

On April 09 2013 22:38 opterown wrote:

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22:00min
DRG rebuilds Mutalisks and harasses the third with a few of them while posturing at the 4th with roaches and hydras
Flying rebuilds his army of Stalkers, Templar and Colossai
Both players are at 170 supply

DRG keeps harassing the third with Mutas but Flying splits hiis army well and is able to defend with 2 Phoenix and a few Stalkers
More Mutas on the way for DRG, building quite a huge flock of them

24:00min
Both players are maxed out now, DRG is way behind in upgrades and doesn't continue to research
DRG starts Swarm Hosts and lots of Spines while keeping Flying defensive with his Mutas

good Phoenix micro by Flying lets him defend
Flying starts the transition into more Stargates and Fleet Beacon

26:00min
Mutas poke into the third once more but get heavily damaged by storms
DRG still jumps between the main and third of Flying, keeping him contained for a while now

28:00min
DRG takes a fifth base and adds Vipers and Swarm Hosts, keeping his Mutas active
Flying starts to warp-in defensive DTs as DRG tries to bust the third with Roaches and Hydras
The Roaches and Hydras get killed without doing much but that allows DRG to build more and more Swarm Hosts and Spines

30:00min
Flying adds Voidrays and kills the 5th of DRG with DTs
DRG has almost no minerals left while Flying takes his won fifth and starts building a bank

32:00min
DRG starts sieging the 5th with Swarm Hosts and uses Mutas and a Blinding Cloud to attack the third
Flying decides that it's time to attack DRG and is able to kill a few Swarm Hosts but DRG pulls the rest back into his Spine Crawlers

DRG is using Mutas, Vipers, Swarm Hosts and Spines exclusively now
Flying is on gateway units, Colossai, Templar and Voidrays

34:00min
DRG takes out Flying's 5th with his Mutas, at the same time Flying kills DRG's 5th with his army

Flying splits his army and tries to attack with Colossai and Templar with Gateway-support while defending against Mutas with a bunch of Phoenix and Stalkers

36:00min
DRG has mainly mutas now, only a few Swarm Hosts and Vipers left
Both players are basically outmined but Flying is trying to take another base as his 5th

38:00min
DRG´is able to kill most of Flying's Templar as they are out of position, getting his Mutas heavily damaged
He waits for the Mutas to heal up and push in agaiin

40:00min
DRG still without a 5th base, only mining from a few mineral patches at his 4th
DRG keeps killing small armies with his Mutas and now tries to push out with Spines and Swarm Hosts

Flying sees the Hosts and catches them with Force Fields and Storms and kill most of them, only 8 Hosts left
DRG takes out most of Flying's main and denies the 5th once more

42:00min
Flying takes the 5th at the other side of the map again, DRG sieges it from far away with Swarm Hosts
No more mining for DRG but Flying has almost no unit producing structures left

DRG finally re-takes his 5th but he has the weaker army
Flying tries to corner DRG with his army split up but it doesn't work out

44:00min
DRG loses his 5th but kills Flying's 5th, the game keeps going back and forth

It's pretty much a stalemate, Flying has the better army but not enough to push into SwarmHost-Spine and DRG keeps killing stuff with his Mutas.
However Flying keeps rebuilding his 5th and sloooooooooooooowly improving his army while DRG is only long-distance mining

48:00min
Flying pushes and kills DRG's 5th once more, DRG kills more buildings in Flying's main
Flying is supply-blocked and has no production buildings but is mining, DRG is not mining

50:00min
The game keeps being interesting because of both players being aggressive and denying bases over and over again
DRG kills more buildings, Flying finally gets out of his supply-block but still hasn't got production buildings

Flying is still not able to corner DRG's mutas but he has enough Cannons and Templar at his 5th now that Mutas are not able to kill it anymore
Flying also keeps building more and more Cannons to prevent basetrades

52:00min
Flyiing tries to attack DRG's 5th but DRG has his Spines, Mutas and Hosts there and is able to repel Flying
Nobody wants to fully commit yet but Flying has the much better position now with his 5th being save and DRG barely mining at all

54:00min
Flying keeps sieging DRG's 5th but DRG is more cost-efficient with Mutas, Viper abducts and Hosts
Flying still has the much bigger army but he has to be careful with sieging DRG

Flying uses excellent Blink Micro and Storms but loses all his HTs
Finally Flying gets enough of a lead to attack DRG's base. DRG tries to defend with everything he got but Flying has just too much stuff

DRG is at 4 supply now, trying to understand what just happened.

DRG types the GG and leaves the game, Flying advances to the Ro16!

thanks for the LR man you're a legend

My wrists are hurting now but it was fun ^.^
Good games today, quite entertaining

roym899

Germany426 Posts

April 09 2013 13:41 GMT

#1979

Swarm Hosts are just terrible. I can't find any use of them on ladder too. I think there are some scenarios where you can use them but in the end game they are just useless as locusts don't even get to shoot on the protoss deathball as they die before. DRG could have had 20 more mutas if he wouldn't have made SHs and they are soo much more worth...

nihlon

Sweden5581 Posts

April 09 2013 13:41 GMT

#1980

On April 09 2013 22:38 Kommander wrote:
lol at this LR, some people saying it's a sick game, nice game, etc., some saying it's the worst, bad game, etc. :p

That's most LR threads. I often work during the gsl games and it's usually impossible to follow what kind of game if someone isn't making a play-by-play since everything else is what you described.

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