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deus.machinarum
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria658 Posts
April 07 2013 09:33 GMT
#1281
On April 07 2013 18:29 DeathProfessor wrote:
I have mental issues against Protoss, they just make me angry to watch, if they play well its ok but man I hate watching bad Protoss actually worse than bad Zerg or Terran. I think its the gay disco colors or something on all their stuff.


This made me lol way too much, I feel bad now :p
Nothing worth having comes easy.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 07 2013 09:33 GMT
#1282
Proleague still with the bad commercial timings. They could do the commercials in the commercial breaks but instead they are just doing commercials during the analysis T.T

Also someone should tell that Observer that I need to see the production tab to do LRs. I couldn't even see Hero going for 2 Stargates because they didn't show it
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 07 2013 09:33 GMT
#1283
On April 07 2013 18:31 Boonbag wrote:
Why did they send Huk ? Is he doing good in practice team ranking ?


We will never know, I never trust when players say "oh no this guy truly is a beast in practice!"
The curse is real
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 07 2013 09:34 GMT
#1284
On April 07 2013 18:32 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
HerO has lost at least his last 13 games in a row now according to Aligulac
http://aligulac.com/players/11-HerO/

ouch

I went to the match history page. it's 14 straight losses, last win coming against Madbull on Feb 20 in IPTL. 0-9 overall in HoTS
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 07 2013 09:34 GMT
#1285
On April 07 2013 18:33 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:31 Boonbag wrote:
Why did they send Huk ? Is he doing good in practice team ranking ?


We will never know, I never trust when players say "oh no this guy truly is a beast in practice!"

I think yoda and byun are like the only two players where the team mates went "Oh god he's so good in practice" and actually somewhat followed up that practice bonjwa hype.
Glorious SEA doto
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 09:35:55
April 07 2013 09:34 GMT
#1286
On April 07 2013 18:31 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:30 letian wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:25 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:21 blade55555 wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:19 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:13 blade55555 wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:12 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:10 Insoleet wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:08 zergeasiestrace wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:05 NovemberstOrm wrote:
I can already tell Coach Park has made a difference in the team.
Anyway time to sleep, gogo eg-tl you got this :D


I'm sorry but how? The scoreline? Everyone except Oz has played bad from EG-TL.


Please explain what jeadong could have done better

Also, JYP played very good midgame, just a huge misread of his opponent army strenght lost him the game.

And Huk nervous as hell.


Stop with this, he clearly could have played better or you didn't watch the game.
You are wrong on all post you are either not someone that know a lot about SC2 or a HUUUUUUUUGE fangirl.


I know jaedong didn't play perfect but he did not play anywhere near as awful as you make it out to be. Being caught by an un scouted 7 gate and having a late roach warren he defended extremely well even though the toss messed up and lost the warp prism.

He honestly could have defended vs that immortal/sentry push better sure, but I wouldn't say anywhere close to terrible.


He played very greedy yes and should be punished by it, not even a spine was thrown down. (in the start)
If you truly can't defend your base after having a good lead and seeing that your opponent is coming not once but two and actually even three times.
Imo you shouldn't get a "well played" even not OK but "Improve you didn't play good."

#nofluff


That was my point. He played extremely greedy (I never said he didn't) and he defended about as good as you could considering the situation. He microd his units very well, got his queens to snipe warp prism and then defended. Again playing greedy and getting caught and then defending it very well doesn't = "Wow jaedong played terrible he wasn't prepared!" that's a "jaedong played super greedy should have died/taken a lot of damage but was able to defend very well considering the situation".

At least understand what you are calling terrible and what happened. He also didn't even see the army until it was pretty much at his third so yeah he had no time to put down spines.


Exactly.

But what I'm saying is that if JD was up against a better Protoss, he would have had no chance.
I may come off too hard on the kid but thats whats needed to get some sense into the EG-TL prising fangirls.

On a game related note, thats what happens when you play bad and the player you are facing is on your level and not below.

"if" is a solid argument, indeed. Next time when JD is up against a better toss, ok?
Moreover, Aria came to play after defeating really good players, it would be an understatement saying Aria is a bad toss.

His play wasn't exactly perfect either ^^


But your play is always relative to your opponent's play. It's not just about you, it's about how good your opponent is countering what you are doing, and how good you can counter what your opponents do.

There is no absolute "perfect play", its always relative to what your opponent does and how hard is to react and adjust to his play.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
April 07 2013 09:34 GMT
#1287
On April 07 2013 18:25 PVJ wrote:
THIS IS THE COOOST OF TREEEAAASSSOOOOOOOOON


Where is this from? I've read it several times in this LR-thread.
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
April 07 2013 09:34 GMT
#1288
On April 07 2013 18:33 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:31 Boonbag wrote:
Why did they send Huk ? Is he doing good in practice team ranking ?


We will never know, I never trust when players say "oh no this guy truly is a beast in practice!"


haha yeah so many people say that

but that's often very true !
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
April 07 2013 09:34 GMT
#1289
On April 07 2013 18:33 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
HerO has lost at least his last 13 games in a row now according to Aligulac
http://aligulac.com/players/11-HerO/

Hero is overhyped good time.

He really lost his swagger ever since he started to play in PL. There is none of the brilliance in his play that he used to have Maybe it's the pressure of the environment? He is way too emotional after all.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 07 2013 09:34 GMT
#1290
On April 07 2013 18:33 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:31 Iplaythings wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:28 TAMinator wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:27 Boonbag wrote:
is zero good or bad at sc2 ?

he's a beast according to chat

He's probally the same in BW

inconsitent but good



that's a little rash to say about Zero

I actually think he was pretty consistent given the level of competition he was involved on in late bw....

was top 3 zerg, that's not small feat...

True, he had a small consistent period on the final part of BW

But the rest of his career had him as the inconsistent stars zerg :p
In the woods, there lurks..
zergeasiestrace
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada20 Posts
April 07 2013 09:35 GMT
#1291
On April 07 2013 18:34 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:31 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:30 letian wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:25 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:21 blade55555 wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:19 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:13 blade55555 wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:12 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:10 Insoleet wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:08 zergeasiestrace wrote:
[quote]

I'm sorry but how? The scoreline? Everyone except Oz has played bad from EG-TL.


Please explain what jeadong could have done better

Also, JYP played very good midgame, just a huge misread of his opponent army strenght lost him the game.

And Huk nervous as hell.


Stop with this, he clearly could have played better or you didn't watch the game.
You are wrong on all post you are either not someone that know a lot about SC2 or a HUUUUUUUUGE fangirl.


I know jaedong didn't play perfect but he did not play anywhere near as awful as you make it out to be. Being caught by an un scouted 7 gate and having a late roach warren he defended extremely well even though the toss messed up and lost the warp prism.

He honestly could have defended vs that immortal/sentry push better sure, but I wouldn't say anywhere close to terrible.


He played very greedy yes and should be punished by it, not even a spine was thrown down. (in the start)
If you truly can't defend your base after having a good lead and seeing that your opponent is coming not once but two and actually even three times.
Imo you shouldn't get a "well played" even not OK but "Improve you didn't play good."

#nofluff


That was my point. He played extremely greedy (I never said he didn't) and he defended about as good as you could considering the situation. He microd his units very well, got his queens to snipe warp prism and then defended. Again playing greedy and getting caught and then defending it very well doesn't = "Wow jaedong played terrible he wasn't prepared!" that's a "jaedong played super greedy should have died/taken a lot of damage but was able to defend very well considering the situation".

At least understand what you are calling terrible and what happened. He also didn't even see the army until it was pretty much at his third so yeah he had no time to put down spines.


Exactly.

But what I'm saying is that if JD was up against a better Protoss, he would have had no chance.
I may come off too hard on the kid but thats whats needed to get some sense into the EG-TL prising fangirls.

On a game related note, thats what happens when you play bad and the player you are facing is on your level and not below.

"if" is a solid argument, indeed. Next time when JD is up against a better toss, ok?
Moreover, Aria came to play after defeating really good players, it would be an understatement saying Aria is a bad toss.

His play wasn't exactly perfect either ^^


But your play is always relative to your opponent's play. It's not just about you, it's about how good your opponent is countering what you are doing, and how good you can counter what your opponents do.

There is no absolute "i play good", its always relative to what your opponent does and how hard is to react and adjust to his play.


That's just flat out wrong.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
April 07 2013 09:35 GMT
#1292
On April 07 2013 18:33 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:31 Boonbag wrote:
Why did they send Huk ? Is he doing good in practice team ranking ?


We will never know, I never trust when players say "oh no this guy truly is a beast in practice!"

He said he made the team because he was doing well in-house. Most of his mistakes seemed to be the type of things you do when you're incredibly nervous.

I find that strange considering the amount of booth time he's booked in GSL and MLG's etc.
Long live the King of Wings
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
April 07 2013 09:35 GMT
#1293
On April 07 2013 18:29 Schelim wrote:
Alive gonna body and then be sent out for ace match and catch another body


wouldnt be surprised, fnatic was relying on him for Ace all the time, hes quite a player you can rest assure to keep nerves of steel. probably the best choice if TaeJa isnt around imo
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
April 07 2013 09:35 GMT
#1294
On April 07 2013 18:34 kafkaesque wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:25 PVJ wrote:
THIS IS THE COOOST OF TREEEAAASSSOOOOOOOOON


Where is this from? I've read it several times in this LR-thread.


after googling it i have found nothing
can i get my estro logo back pls
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 07 2013 09:35 GMT
#1295
On April 07 2013 18:33 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:31 Boonbag wrote:
Why did they send Huk ? Is he doing good in practice team ranking ?


We will never know, I never trust when players say "oh no this guy truly is a beast in practice!"


Was true for iNfeRnaL in Broodwar :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
April 07 2013 09:35 GMT
#1296
On April 07 2013 18:34 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:33 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:31 Boonbag wrote:
Why did they send Huk ? Is he doing good in practice team ranking ?


We will never know, I never trust when players say "oh no this guy truly is a beast in practice!"

I think yoda and byun are like the only two players where the team mates went "Oh god he's so good in practice" and actually somewhat followed up that practice bonjwa hype.

I also remember jaehoon--his teammates said was actually an absolute monster in practice but...yeah... to be fair he did have a few pretty good games afaik.

Alive is EGTL's last hope...stayin alive gogo >_< I hope to wake up to a good result :3
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
April 07 2013 09:35 GMT
#1297
On April 07 2013 18:34 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:31 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:30 letian wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:25 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:21 blade55555 wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:19 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:13 blade55555 wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:12 Tobblish wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:10 Insoleet wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:08 zergeasiestrace wrote:
[quote]

I'm sorry but how? The scoreline? Everyone except Oz has played bad from EG-TL.


Please explain what jeadong could have done better

Also, JYP played very good midgame, just a huge misread of his opponent army strenght lost him the game.

And Huk nervous as hell.


Stop with this, he clearly could have played better or you didn't watch the game.
You are wrong on all post you are either not someone that know a lot about SC2 or a HUUUUUUUUGE fangirl.


I know jaedong didn't play perfect but he did not play anywhere near as awful as you make it out to be. Being caught by an un scouted 7 gate and having a late roach warren he defended extremely well even though the toss messed up and lost the warp prism.

He honestly could have defended vs that immortal/sentry push better sure, but I wouldn't say anywhere close to terrible.


He played very greedy yes and should be punished by it, not even a spine was thrown down. (in the start)
If you truly can't defend your base after having a good lead and seeing that your opponent is coming not once but two and actually even three times.
Imo you shouldn't get a "well played" even not OK but "Improve you didn't play good."

#nofluff


That was my point. He played extremely greedy (I never said he didn't) and he defended about as good as you could considering the situation. He microd his units very well, got his queens to snipe warp prism and then defended. Again playing greedy and getting caught and then defending it very well doesn't = "Wow jaedong played terrible he wasn't prepared!" that's a "jaedong played super greedy should have died/taken a lot of damage but was able to defend very well considering the situation".

At least understand what you are calling terrible and what happened. He also didn't even see the army until it was pretty much at his third so yeah he had no time to put down spines.


Exactly.

But what I'm saying is that if JD was up against a better Protoss, he would have had no chance.
I may come off too hard on the kid but thats whats needed to get some sense into the EG-TL prising fangirls.

On a game related note, thats what happens when you play bad and the player you are facing is on your level and not below.

"if" is a solid argument, indeed. Next time when JD is up against a better toss, ok?
Moreover, Aria came to play after defeating really good players, it would be an understatement saying Aria is a bad toss.

His play wasn't exactly perfect either ^^


But your play is always relative to your opponent's play. It's not just about you, it's about how good your opponent is countering what you are doing, and how good you can counter what your opponents do.

There is no absolute "i play good", its always relative to what your opponent does and how hard is to react and adjust to his play.


Flash already defined "good play" in absolute terms during his early years.
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
April 07 2013 09:35 GMT
#1298
These casters are so not going well together :/
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 07 2013 09:36 GMT
#1299
On April 07 2013 18:34 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:33 letian wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:31 Shellshock1122 wrote:
HerO has lost at least his last 13 games in a row now according to Aligulac
http://aligulac.com/players/11-HerO/

Hero is overhyped good time.

He really lost his swagger ever since he started to play in PL. There is none of the brilliance in his play that he used to have Maybe it's the pressure of the environment? He is way too emotional after all.

A lot of the losses are to ESF players as well.
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
April 07 2013 09:36 GMT
#1300
On April 07 2013 18:32 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 18:30 Bowzar wrote:
On April 07 2013 18:27 Boonbag wrote:
is zero good or bad at sc2 ?


Really good and only cost me 4 points.

5*


Still worth it
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