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YEAAAAH BOMBAH IN THE HOUSE!
So gosu :3
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On April 04 2013 22:54 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 22:49 gideel wrote:
Do any of you even play this game? Protoss simply cannot nexus first vs terran right now if terran goes for a single reaper which almost everyone does right now. Terran simply gains a huge advantage if the T is competent at micro vs probes/zealot/sentry
After the eco damage bomber did, there was no other choice but to go for a gateway timing to at least contain terran. If you go stargate / robo, you instantly get killed by bombers stim medivac timing either from a full frontal attack or a split + drops depending on the sentry composition.
Creator played near the best to his ability in that situation and it was clear there was still a huge gap in supply that was impossible to beat (bomber knew that WAY beforehand thus the lackluster MMM micro + fancy drop-play and CC + mule drops) The only thing that might work is Nexus first into forge with 1 Cannon in each mineral line . Probably delays your tech for too much though. Reaper and Minedrops will be useless though against Cannons though.
Tbh Nexus first into cannon ring around entire main base and natural (and preemptively on your third). Safest play.
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They should at least give a warning to players chatting bad thing about the game, opponents, or teams etc. If they don't do anything, what's the boundary then? Everyone can use imba to replace gg as the common game ending chat, it happened twice already, third time is not far.
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Creator just said on twitter that:
하하하하.. dk님 계셔서 한번해본건데 너무진지하게 보진말아주세요! 경기력이 안좋앗던건 죄송합니다
He tells David Kim not to take his gg comment seriously, and he's sorry about his performance.
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On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played. To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season? 80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR
Doesn't matter, Sage has a very cool playstyle, I'd love to watch him in a league, no matter if he wins or loses.
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On April 04 2013 23:03 Maxilicious wrote:
Creator just said on twitter that:
하하하하.. dk님 계셔서 한번해본건데 너무진지하게 보진말아주세요! 경기력이 안좋앗던건 죄송합니다
He tells David Kim not to take his gg comment seriously, and he's sorry about his performance.
The loud minority of degenerates in LR who took him seriously will probably still call for societal reform following his hurtful actions
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On April 04 2013 23:08 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played. To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season? 80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR Doesn't matter, Sage has a very cool playstyle, I'd love to watch him in a league, no matter if he wins or loses.
yeah i really like sage too, but he's sadly not that competitive ;;
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On April 04 2013 23:10 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 23:08 StarVe wrote:On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played. To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season? 80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR Doesn't matter, Sage has a very cool playstyle, I'd love to watch him in a league, no matter if he wins or loses. yeah i really like sage too, but he's sadly not that competitive ;;
+ Show Spoiler [Acer Teamstory Cup Acer vs ROOT spoilers] +but yesterday he beat MMA and his MMAzing TvP!!! He is the hero we deserve! 
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On April 04 2013 22:51 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 22:49 gideel wrote:
Do any of you even play this game? Protoss simply cannot nexus first vs terran right now if terran goes for a single reaper which almost everyone does right now. Terran simply gains a huge advantage if the T is competent at micro vs probes/zealot/sentry
After the eco damage bomber did, there was no other choice but to go for a gateway timing to at least contain terran. If you go stargate / robo, you instantly get killed by bombers stim medivac timing either from a full frontal attack or a split + drops depending on the sentry composition.
Creator played near the best to his ability in that situation and it was clear there was still a huge gap in supply that was impossible to beat (bomber knew that WAY beforehand thus the lackluster MMM micro + fancy drop-play and CC + mule drops) If you don't adapt to the strategy and metagame, you shouldn't QQ. Nexus first is extremely greedy.
People are complaining cuz they think Creator failed an all-in and QQ'd imbalance when it was obvious he was forced to do so given the circumstances. If you understand the game you wouldn't be saying such a thing.
Creator also has a point. If T goes cc first what can the protoss to that is a instant build order win if he/she has good micro? A proxy zealot rush which nobody does and if you fail instantly lose?
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On April 04 2013 23:10 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 23:08 StarVe wrote:On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played. To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season? 80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR Doesn't matter, Sage has a very cool playstyle, I'd love to watch him in a league, no matter if he wins or loses. yeah i really like sage too, but he's sadly not that competitive ;;
Good enough to beat HerO, Zenio, Ret, Nerchio, Bly and MMA this week. He'd have a shot in Code A with a decent bracket.
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On April 04 2013 23:12 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 23:10 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 23:08 StarVe wrote:On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played. To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season? 80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR Doesn't matter, Sage has a very cool playstyle, I'd love to watch him in a league, no matter if he wins or loses. yeah i really like sage too, but he's sadly not that competitive ;; Good enough to beat HerO, Zenio, Ret, Nerchio, Bly and MMA this week. He'd have a shot in Code A with a decent bracket.
Wasn't he living abroad for a while? Did he end up coming back to Korea after Alt.tab folded? I'm just asking cause I have no idea
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On April 04 2013 23:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 23:12 StarVe wrote:On April 04 2013 23:10 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 23:08 StarVe wrote:On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played. To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season? 80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR Doesn't matter, Sage has a very cool playstyle, I'd love to watch him in a league, no matter if he wins or loses. yeah i really like sage too, but he's sadly not that competitive ;; Good enough to beat HerO, Zenio, Ret, Nerchio, Bly and MMA this week. He'd have a shot in Code A with a decent bracket. Wasn't he living abroad for a while? Did he end up coming back to Korea after Alt.tab folded? I'm just asking cause I have no idea
AFAIK he is in Korea now. He played all of his games vs. MMA on Korean server to avoid the lag, so I am 99% sure he is there.
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On April 04 2013 22:57 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played. To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season? Ehhhh he never had much success in GSL . He plays creative but he's prone to big mistakes in live games IRC.
well KR>EU>NA.
80% NA means nothing. How many NA players could compete with KR players? None. 2 EU players can (Stephano, Naniwa) and some can upset but not really compete
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On April 04 2013 23:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 23:12 StarVe wrote:On April 04 2013 23:10 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 23:08 StarVe wrote:On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played. To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season? 80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR Doesn't matter, Sage has a very cool playstyle, I'd love to watch him in a league, no matter if he wins or loses. yeah i really like sage too, but he's sadly not that competitive ;; Good enough to beat HerO, Zenio, Ret, Nerchio, Bly and MMA this week. He'd have a shot in Code A with a decent bracket. Wasn't he living abroad for a while? Did he end up coming back to Korea after Alt.tab folded? I'm just asking cause I have no idea
Nah, he's back. He has been living in the NSHS house for a couple of months now.
The only thing Alt-Tab could do after folding was pony up the last money they had to fly him back to Korea.
Sage ended up paying his own way to the last foreign tournament he went to (Acer Challenge in Berlin), couldn't really afford a hotel and Knowme took him in so he could sleep on his floor. After Dimaga (who also stayed with Knowme) was out of the tournament he allowed him to sleep in the bed for the last day and spent the night on the floor himself.
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On April 04 2013 23:12 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 23:10 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 23:08 StarVe wrote:On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played. To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season? 80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR Doesn't matter, Sage has a very cool playstyle, I'd love to watch him in a league, no matter if he wins or loses. yeah i really like sage too, but he's sadly not that competitive ;; Good enough to beat HerO, Zenio, Ret, Nerchio, Bly and MMA this week. He'd have a shot in Code A with a decent bracket.
He was allways very good online . His offline play was pretty lackluster in comparison . Artosis hyped him like crazy when he first came up with NSHS . Never really showed it in offline play why he was hyped.
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oh bomber didnt disappoint
yay :D
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On April 04 2013 23:12 gideel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 22:51 Wintex wrote:On April 04 2013 22:49 gideel wrote:
Do any of you even play this game? Protoss simply cannot nexus first vs terran right now if terran goes for a single reaper which almost everyone does right now. Terran simply gains a huge advantage if the T is competent at micro vs probes/zealot/sentry
After the eco damage bomber did, there was no other choice but to go for a gateway timing to at least contain terran. If you go stargate / robo, you instantly get killed by bombers stim medivac timing either from a full frontal attack or a split + drops depending on the sentry composition.
Creator played near the best to his ability in that situation and it was clear there was still a huge gap in supply that was impossible to beat (bomber knew that WAY beforehand thus the lackluster MMM micro + fancy drop-play and CC + mule drops) If you don't adapt to the strategy and metagame, you shouldn't QQ. Nexus first is extremely greedy. People are complaining cuz they think Creator failed an all-in and QQ'd imbalance when it was obvious he was forced to do so given the circumstances. If you understand the game you wouldn't be saying such a thing. Creator also has a point. If T goes cc first what can the protoss to that is a instant build order win if he/she has good micro? A proxy zealot rush which nobody does and if you fail instantly lose?
heard oracles are pretty good 
And some 2 gate pressure or something with a robo. as always.
HotS didn't kill possibilities for Toss, they have increased. Do whatever worked in WoL and add some Hot Stuff
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On April 04 2013 23:22 Rollora wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 23:12 gideel wrote:On April 04 2013 22:51 Wintex wrote:On April 04 2013 22:49 gideel wrote:
Do any of you even play this game? Protoss simply cannot nexus first vs terran right now if terran goes for a single reaper which almost everyone does right now. Terran simply gains a huge advantage if the T is competent at micro vs probes/zealot/sentry
After the eco damage bomber did, there was no other choice but to go for a gateway timing to at least contain terran. If you go stargate / robo, you instantly get killed by bombers stim medivac timing either from a full frontal attack or a split + drops depending on the sentry composition.
Creator played near the best to his ability in that situation and it was clear there was still a huge gap in supply that was impossible to beat (bomber knew that WAY beforehand thus the lackluster MMM micro + fancy drop-play and CC + mule drops) If you don't adapt to the strategy and metagame, you shouldn't QQ. Nexus first is extremely greedy. People are complaining cuz they think Creator failed an all-in and QQ'd imbalance when it was obvious he was forced to do so given the circumstances. If you understand the game you wouldn't be saying such a thing. Creator also has a point. If T goes cc first what can the protoss to that is a instant build order win if he/she has good micro? A proxy zealot rush which nobody does and if you fail instantly lose? heard oracles are pretty good And some 2 gate pressure or something with a robo. as always. HotS didn't kill possibilities for Toss, they have increased. Do whatever worked in WoL and add some Hot Stuff
So we are talking about a tech build vs a cc open which doesnt even guarantee a win unless you do massive eco damage when a terran vs toss nexus first can just build a single unit from a barracks tier 1 and claim a build order win?
2 Gate pressure gets shut down by a single bunker by the way...
Not justifying balance whine but people need to understand at the heat of the moment why creator said what he did.
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On April 04 2013 23:20 noD wrote:
oh bomber didnt disappoint
yay :D
You know what that means right?
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On April 04 2013 23:20 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 23:12 StarVe wrote:On April 04 2013 23:10 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 23:08 StarVe wrote:On April 04 2013 22:58 opterown wrote:On April 04 2013 22:56 govie wrote:On April 04 2013 22:43 Archybaldie wrote:
Cant wait for MC to show much much more exciting games. I was really dissapointed in creator today. Also crazy just got totally out played. To bad Sage isnt in gsl. My god he can play, 80% winrate on NA. Maybe next season? 80% on NA is not really that impressive considering that some pros can get 75% on KR Doesn't matter, Sage has a very cool playstyle, I'd love to watch him in a league, no matter if he wins or loses. yeah i really like sage too, but he's sadly not that competitive ;; Good enough to beat HerO, Zenio, Ret, Nerchio, Bly and MMA this week. He'd have a shot in Code A with a decent bracket. He was allways very good online . His offline play was pretty lackluster in comparison . Artosis hyped him like crazy when he first came up with NSHS . Never really showed it in offline play why he was hyped.
Nah, not really, Sage doesn't have online results either. He was sick in GSTL and almost got through Code A to Code S when he qualified for GSL after that, but his PvP killed him. Beat YoDa, Check and Lucky but lost 3-1 in the Code A semifinals to Oz (the Code A when Curious made his undefeated run and smashed Oz 4-0 in the finals, I think Sage would have had a better shot).
Then he got into Up&Downs but his PvP killed him again, beat GuMiho and Zenio but lost to both Puzzle and Genius and ended up a win away from Code S.
If he had had better PvP, he would have been a great and very scary player at that time.
And Sage did pretty well at his EU offline events (Battle at Ministry of Win and Acer Challenge where he completely dismantled Snute multiple times). Only DreamHack wasn't so good where he once again lost a PvP, this time to MaNa.
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