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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On April 04 2013 21:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 21:51 Lysanias wrote:On April 04 2013 21:49 rothsbury wrote:Before people say the balance is broken, that was one game, and crazy didn't even play that well. And fwiw, catz thinks zerg beats that composition: https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ This build has been a terror on ladder for a while now, it's fair to say it's a silly strat that is darn hard to counter. apparently Dear is at the top of the KR ladder with a ridiculously high PvZ win rate doing it every game according to Major and Khaldor we'll find out with dear vs. jaedong in SPL
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On April 04 2013 21:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 21:51 Lysanias wrote:On April 04 2013 21:49 rothsbury wrote:Before people say the balance is broken, that was one game, and crazy didn't even play that well. And fwiw, catz thinks zerg beats that composition: https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ This build has been a terror on ladder for a while now, it's fair to say it's a silly strat that is darn hard to counter. apparently Dear is at the top of the KR ladder with a ridiculously high PvZ win rate doing it every game according to Major and Khaldor
Yeah players like Hyun keep losing to it, but it's cool we have Catz now !
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On April 04 2013 21:49 TangyOrange wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 21:47 Jomppa wrote: Zerg should neural parasite a probe and build same army. LOL NICE ONE
Haha, and you can do it when they sac probes :D
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On April 04 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:Yeah, because we should all look up to CatZ for the pinnacle of Zerg play.
You're right. Only Life understands zerg. Other progamers don't have good ideas. If they did, they'd win every GSL.
Catz hasn't won a gsl, thus he has no ideas about zerg.
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On April 04 2013 21:53 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 21:51 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On April 04 2013 21:49 rothsbury wrote:Before people say the balance is broken, that was one game, and crazy didn't even play that well. And fwiw, catz thinks zerg beats that composition: https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ I think we should wait what CombatEX, Fuzer and avilo have to say to that game first to determine if something is broken or not. I said fwiw because I understand catz is not that great. But crazy played arguably worse than catz, making really stupid composition decisions (broodlords? corruptors?). So yeah, maybe listen to catz a bit before you say "MATCHUP IS BROKEN FU DAVID KIM!!!!!!" We are not saying FU Kim, not yet at least :D. Space on the battlefield is also a ressource. Have you seen how much space 20+ infestors need?
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On April 04 2013 21:53 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 21:51 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On April 04 2013 21:49 rothsbury wrote:Before people say the balance is broken, that was one game, and crazy didn't even play that well. And fwiw, catz thinks zerg beats that composition: https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ I think we should wait what CombatEX, Fuzer and avilo have to say to that game first to determine if something is broken or not. I said fwiw because I understand catz is not that great. But crazy played arguably worse than catz, making really stupid composition decisions (broodlords? corruptors?). So yeah, maybe listen to catz a bit before you say "MATCHUP IS BROKEN FU DAVID KIM!!!!!!" Arguably worse than catz?? Catz wouldn't have even made it that far vs Creator.
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On April 04 2013 21:49 rothsbury wrote:Before people say the balance is broken, that was one game, and crazy didn't even play that well. And fwiw, catz thinks zerg beats that composition: https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ CatZ and Artosis are right, swarm host is necessary in that kind of scenario. I saw a couple of games on Mana's stream where he simply couldn't engage against SH-corruptors-vipers-mass spores without losing at least some units every locusts wave and he eventually ran out of gas. You just can't get high templars in front of your army to feedback vipers with swarm host there.
Not that it is fun to watch, but I blame the maps (like Daybreak) for that.
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OMG 1080P OGN with Doa. This is insanely awesome. Did I miss the hype train for how awesome Code S in free 1080p streams were?
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On April 04 2013 21:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 21:51 Lysanias wrote:On April 04 2013 21:49 rothsbury wrote:Before people say the balance is broken, that was one game, and crazy didn't even play that well. And fwiw, catz thinks zerg beats that composition: https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ This build has been a terror on ladder for a while now, it's fair to say it's a silly strat that is darn hard to counter. apparently Dear is at the top of the KR ladder with a ridiculously high PvZ win rate doing it every game according to Major and Khaldor
Yes this is true in fact.
It is very popular now in the PvZ. Just turtled hard on 3 bases into 4 bases and then slowly strangled the zerg with mass cannons/VR/Tempest and later on collosus.
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On April 04 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:Yeah, because we should all look up to CatZ for the pinnacle of Zerg play. No, but since people are still trying to figure out a way, someone is going to get it first. Maybe Catz found a solution that's different from winning the game before Toss gets to max air, who knows? Time will tell, players may differ from execution but good ideas can come to anyone. Best examples would be Destiny with mass infestors or WhiteRa's prism play.
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Bomber fighting!
And if anyone cares about the Race War TvZ going on:
+ Show Spoiler +Larva beat sSak. There were ultras made.
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Norway25712 Posts
Damn you Tasteless!
Creator CAN'T do it.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
will bomber scv allin all games again?
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On April 04 2013 21:53 Ketch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 21:51 Asymmetric wrote:On April 04 2013 21:50 Archybaldie wrote: Once zergs stop building corruptors vs voidrays you wont see that anymore.
Additonally watch catz stream hes been dominating protoss that do that. what does he do? mass viper/spore crawler? Apparently, mass spore hydra, couple of swamrhosts to keep HT's away and then use vipers to pull everything in your spores/hydras
Seems at least plausible...
Does anyway have any Catz vids of him recently playing late game toss?
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Norway25712 Posts
On April 04 2013 21:56 Wintex wrote:Bomber fighting! And if anyone cares about the Race War TvZ going on: + Show Spoiler +Larva beat sSak. There were ultras made. MOOOOO
I'm catching the VODs afterwards. Need to watch this first.
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On April 04 2013 21:56 KristofferAG wrote: Damn you Tasteless!
Creator CAN'T do it.
Thefuck man, looking for a fight
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On April 04 2013 21:55 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 21:53 rothsbury wrote:On April 04 2013 21:51 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On April 04 2013 21:49 rothsbury wrote:Before people say the balance is broken, that was one game, and crazy didn't even play that well. And fwiw, catz thinks zerg beats that composition: https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ I think we should wait what CombatEX, Fuzer and avilo have to say to that game first to determine if something is broken or not. I said fwiw because I understand catz is not that great. But crazy played arguably worse than catz, making really stupid composition decisions (broodlords? corruptors?). So yeah, maybe listen to catz a bit before you say "MATCHUP IS BROKEN FU DAVID KIM!!!!!!" We are not saying FU Kim, not yet at least :D. Space on the battlefield is also a ressource. Have you seen how much space 20+ infestors need? Yeah we want all units clumped into a big ball & to be all in range! Ah wait no we've complaied of deathballs for several years, maybe you're right & it's time to complain about non deathball.
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On April 04 2013 21:55 bittman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 21:52 sitromit wrote:On April 04 2013 21:49 rothsbury wrote:Before people say the balance is broken, that was one game, and crazy didn't even play that well. And fwiw, catz thinks zerg beats that composition: https://twitter.com/ROOTCatZ Yeah, because we should all look up to CatZ for the pinnacle of Zerg play. You're right. Only Life understands zerg. Other progamers don't have good ideas. If they did, they'd win every GSL. Catz hasn't won a gsl, thus he has no ideas about zerg.
Yeah, only thing he hasn't won is a GSL...
The guy who said we should also ask Avilo and Fuzer had it right.
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Bomber's law.
"Bomber will always disappoint."
Corollary to Bomber's law:
"If Bomber does not disappoint, it is to set up a bigger disappointment later."
Go Creator!
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On April 04 2013 21:57 opterown wrote: will bomber scv allin all games again? I hope so. You'll probably be even more sad. :D
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