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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Fuell
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands3111 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6961
Flash vs Ret! Cheering for both :o Hoping for good games!
fOu/Zenith/NEX/WeRRa/SlayerS
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6962
On March 17 2013 08:43 Designakrobat wrote:
after this game i kinda dont wanna see the flash/ret slaughterfest....


It will be closer, Flash almost lost an even macro game to a foreigner zerg yesterday.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6963
On March 17 2013 08:42 Asha` wrote:
Thorzain losing a reaper to drones...


white people can't dance. or play terran.
Terran & Potato Salad.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6964
On March 17 2013 08:41 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:36 JJH777 wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:35 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:33 Emzeeshady wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:30 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:28 Talos[GER] wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:22 pmp10 wrote:
On March 17 2013 08:21 Twisting wrote:
I feel hots will bring back the gomTVT era! Terran > all.

Don't worry.
There will be balance patch out by friday.


Dream on. Blizzard isn't patching because some Kids in forums cry about a balanced game.


Where have you been during 2011 ?

Nah, Blizzard will nerf Terran because it makes sense. If you can honesty look at these games objectively and say Terran doesn't need a nerf then good for you. But it will be nice for those of us living in reality.


That's not what I was getting at. Blizzard have indeed buffed the shit out of zerg just because of children whining on the internet, all the while NesTea was busy winning back-to-back GSLs and DongRaeGu was raping in GSTL and MLG...



Dongraegu didn't win an MLG till 2012... He didn't even do particularly well at the MLGs in 2011. I think he took like 6th behind 5 Korean terrans iirc.


I never said he won MLGs. If you watched the games, they were some amazing TvZs that proved why he was the best zerg at the end of 2011.

He got a 5th and two 3rd places during the second half of the year, also winning an IEM and a DreamHack invitational. I'd say that's not so bad.

Plus 2nd in Blizzard Cup in a pretty nerve-wrackingly insane series.


It's bad when only 2-3 zergs are capable of doing that. Zerg frequently only had 1 player in top 8s of GSL. That is expected to happen sometimes but when it happens like 5 GSLs in a row which it did there is an issue.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6965
On March 17 2013 08:42 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:40 sitromit wrote:
Has a Terran lost a TvZ going bio/mine yet?


thorzain vs killer just now, but don't worry, killer is a far more hyped player.

But I get it, mid-tier foreign zergs can't take top korean terrans anymore, super annoying.


Stop speaking so much truth!
The curse is real
regizer239
Profile Joined March 2012
Guam327 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6966
Leenock spend 1200 minerals on overlords just to to get out of supply block, maybe if he spend that money on units he would have a chance
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6967
On March 17 2013 08:42 GolemMadness wrote:
Leenock just played badly that game. Terrible macro, refusing to build spores; just lackluster play overall. All it would take is two spores behind his natural to stop drops coming from behind there. There's NO reason not to do it.


Comments like this, I wonder how much thought u put into this outside of looking at minerals and gas at certain stages. Do you think it is very easy to do all the things you mentioned while beeing attacked constantly at multiple loactions? "Terrible macro" "just played badly" "no reason not to do it" ... thoughtful
mind mind mind mind mind mind
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6968
Guys, the game is a week old, stop freaking out about terran. You gotta remember zerg dominated MLGs and other tournies for months before this came out. Give it some time before you freak about balance.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10086 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6969
smix ♥
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6970
Is there even a point to Mutas in this scenario? Medivacs outrun them anyway, you can't do anything with them and you'll lose a ton of gas to mines.

Save your money, get static defense, and tech quicker... at least that's what I think, I lose a lot in ZvT (like everyone else).
Tenshix
Profile Joined January 2013
United States169 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6971
Yay it's time for Flash vs Ret!
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
March 16 2013 23:44 GMT
#6972
Huk is now a spectator.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Crazypyro1
Profile Joined May 2010
United States446 Posts
March 16 2013 23:45 GMT
#6973
On March 17 2013 08:43 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:40 Darpa wrote:
I feel like this is a huge oversight by so many pros. Rather than losing drones to drops every time, take 3-4 and make spines and a spore. Its better to lose 12 drones to defense than 30 drones to drops throughout the game.

Yeah, it's kinda weird. They'll make 25 spines vs. Protoss at important chokes, but won't make any vs. Terrans to protect their bases.


Bio wrecks static defense a lot faster. "Oh you built 3 spines and a spore? I'll just send 2 medivacs full instead of 1 and hit your fourth at the same time!"

See: Game 2, Bogus vs Leenock
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 16 2013 23:45 GMT
#6974
Flash vs Ret.. Shit just got real!!
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
March 16 2013 23:45 GMT
#6975
On March 17 2013 08:44 StarVe wrote:
Not only is T-Zain vs Killer not interesting, it's also making Jjakji sleepy, doubly bad.

God damn it, Master Jane.

It's not only making Jjakjji sleepy, Wheat sounds like he has trouble to stay awake. And he is usually one of the more enthusiastic casters.
Get off my lawn, young punks
My_Fake_Plastic_Luv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States257 Posts
March 16 2013 23:45 GMT
#6976
Ahhh that was sad... Leenock getting face stomped is never fun. I think that medievac boost needs to be have an energy component, so there as least some sort of trade off when using it.
Its going to be a glorious day, I feel my luck could change
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 23:46:48
March 16 2013 23:45 GMT
#6977
The terrans are back baby!

[image loading]

(Poster made by Nicopower5000 from this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263421)
Tuthur
Profile Joined July 2010
France985 Posts
March 16 2013 23:45 GMT
#6978
On March 17 2013 08:42 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:40 Tuthur wrote:
hmmm Leenock's out 3-0, I guess he's a foreigner zerg too?


Leenock got outplayed hard this series. Innovation's multitasking is amazing

No he did not, defending drops is also multitasking, it's actually harder to defend a drop than to do one, Leenock was on fire but he just didn't have the answer for this particular strategy. Oh well, we'll see how things turn out.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 16 2013 23:45 GMT
#6979
On March 17 2013 08:44 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 08:43 Designakrobat wrote:
after this game i kinda dont wanna see the flash/ret slaughterfest....


It will be closer, Flash almost lost an even macro game to a foreigner zerg yesterday.

As long as he doesn't mech he'll be fine.
vinsang1000
Profile Joined January 2012
Belgium365 Posts
March 16 2013 23:45 GMT
#6980
On March 17 2013 08:42 Talack wrote:
omg thorizan is still playing hahahaha

This is kinda funny indeed
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