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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
March 08 2013 08:55 GMT
#161
fun game. gotta go to uni now =/
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
March 08 2013 08:55 GMT
#162
On March 08 2013 17:52 Coolhwip wrote:
God, hots PvZ is even worse than WoL

That can't possibly be true.
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
March 08 2013 08:55 GMT
#163
On March 08 2013 17:53 Heartland wrote:
I have to say that I super-like the new DT changes that makes them so much less into a coin flip and more as part of a viable strategy.


Desperation DTs in every game now, I dont find it fun because it makes already decided games last 20 mins longer.
ParamouR
Profile Joined September 2012
Australia28 Posts
March 08 2013 08:55 GMT
#164
Wow. Mana's macro is so freaking bad. The amount of time that he was supply blocked me think he was a diamond player, and his probe production definitely wasn't constant.
Surili
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1141 Posts
March 08 2013 08:55 GMT
#165
On March 08 2013 17:47 revoN wrote:
Not sure if it's the right place to ask this but have they taken out the MSC upgrade to MS? Or is it not worth it? (I don't own the game and watched very little till now.)


It still exists, but it is rarely worth it.If you have fuck tonnes of money it is worth buying just for the HP boost, and the cloak is by no means bad, but vortex is gone also.
The world is ending what should we do about it?
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
March 08 2013 08:56 GMT
#166
On March 08 2013 17:55 ujonecro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 17:53 Heartland wrote:
I have to say that I super-like the new DT changes that makes them so much less into a coin flip and more as part of a viable strategy.


Desperation DTs in every game now, I dont find it fun because it makes already decided games last 20 mins longer.


I don't think it made any difference in this game really. But sure, I see your point, but in WoL DT's are really all or nothing except in the late game possibly.
mataxp
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Chile538 Posts
March 08 2013 08:56 GMT
#167
On March 08 2013 17:52 Coolhwip wrote:
God, hots PvZ is even worse than WoL

how so?

IMO this was better than a failed inmortal sentry all in, or a 3 base collossus pre hive tech, or broodlors v/s momaship...
now those are boring.
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
March 08 2013 08:57 GMT
#168
On March 08 2013 17:49 Blaec wrote:
I want Nerchio to win, but ZvP would be lame if Mana loses against mutas from this position.


So... it's lame then?

I thought that was pretty nice, especially given the trouble Zerg can have against Protoss. And honestly, Mana stopped making Phoenix - 5(?) of them versus 20 Mutas AND corrupters? Not so good.
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Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
March 08 2013 08:58 GMT
#169
On March 08 2013 17:57 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 17:49 Blaec wrote:
I want Nerchio to win, but ZvP would be lame if Mana loses against mutas from this position.


So... it's lame then?

I thought that was pretty nice, especially given the trouble Zerg can have against Protoss. And honestly, Mana stopped making Phoenix - 5(?) of them versus 20 Mutas AND corrupters? Not so good.


Well if there isn't a way for protoss to win from that situation it would be lame, but I feel Mana did not do that right. So there is still hope for the matchup.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
March 08 2013 08:58 GMT
#170
mana had bad macro in that game tbh... supply blocks and not constant phoenix production
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 08 2013 08:58 GMT
#171
On March 08 2013 17:57 felisconcolori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 17:49 Blaec wrote:
I want Nerchio to win, but ZvP would be lame if Mana loses against mutas from this position.


So... it's lame then?

I thought that was pretty nice, especially given the trouble Zerg can have against Protoss. And honestly, Mana stopped making Phoenix - 5(?) of them versus 20 Mutas AND corrupters? Not so good.


Randomly went DT as well, didn't understand that one xD and his blink was sooooo late. He had blind countered Nerchio's proxy spire build, but he didn't make the second stargate until it was way to late.
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Swordland
Profile Joined March 2013
232 Posts
March 08 2013 08:59 GMT
#172
Hi guys :D

Another great day of IEM!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
March 08 2013 08:59 GMT
#173
I love how nerchio uses corruptors in his muta play.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
March 08 2013 08:59 GMT
#174
Mana just... his play vs muta is kinda bad tbh xD
When I think of something else, something will go here
Swordland
Profile Joined March 2013
232 Posts
March 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#175
What? Mana is from poland? I remember i think the 1st day IEM showed him as someone from Spain lol......
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 09:01:02
March 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#176
all in incoming! edit: the casters think this too!
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kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
March 08 2013 09:01 GMT
#177
On March 08 2013 17:39 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 17:34 Schelim wrote:
haha "Nerchio won everytime they played in wol so Mana will win now"

awesome logic :D


Tbh it's not bad logic either.


Yes it is, because there's no logic at all in this conclusion.
the game is the game
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
March 08 2013 09:01 GMT
#178
On March 08 2013 17:58 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 17:57 felisconcolori wrote:
On March 08 2013 17:49 Blaec wrote:
I want Nerchio to win, but ZvP would be lame if Mana loses against mutas from this position.


So... it's lame then?

I thought that was pretty nice, especially given the trouble Zerg can have against Protoss. And honestly, Mana stopped making Phoenix - 5(?) of them versus 20 Mutas AND corrupters? Not so good.


Randomly went DT as well, didn't understand that one xD and his blink was sooooo late. He had blind countered Nerchio's proxy spire build, but he didn't make the second stargate until it was way to late.

He probably saw the pvz games from yesterday where every protoss going doubble stargate got owned by corruptors
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dinosrwar
Profile Joined September 2011
1290 Posts
March 08 2013 09:04 GMT
#179
Mana clearly has no soul. 3-0 incoming.
Peacecrafts
Profile Joined October 2012
45 Posts
March 08 2013 09:04 GMT
#180
On March 08 2013 18:01 Coolhwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 17:58 Pandemona wrote:
On March 08 2013 17:57 felisconcolori wrote:
On March 08 2013 17:49 Blaec wrote:
I want Nerchio to win, but ZvP would be lame if Mana loses against mutas from this position.


So... it's lame then?

I thought that was pretty nice, especially given the trouble Zerg can have against Protoss. And honestly, Mana stopped making Phoenix - 5(?) of them versus 20 Mutas AND corrupters? Not so good.


Randomly went DT as well, didn't understand that one xD and his blink was sooooo late. He had blind countered Nerchio's proxy spire build, but he didn't make the second stargate until it was way to late.

He probably saw the pvz games from yesterday where every protoss going doubble stargate got owned by corruptors


Well, MaNa should've watched Nerchio's game vs YongHwa where muta/corruptors got destroyed by double stargate.
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