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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10156 Posts
March 06 2013 14:29 GMT
#961
On March 06 2013 23:28 wangstra wrote:
Is a widow mine parked at the enemy's third to prevent exp more effective than a hellion (or marine?)


That forces the zerg to get overseers while hellion and marine don't.
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
March 06 2013 14:30 GMT
#962
On March 06 2013 23:25 Godwrath wrote:
I feel bad because i am absolutely enjoying Snute, Vortix, Slivko getting destroyed on tvz.

I am not, finally zergs get what they deserve.
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
March 06 2013 14:30 GMT
#963
Sting looks so funny, like a cartoon character.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
March 06 2013 14:31 GMT
#964
Looks like Vortix will join Snute in the "officially out of the tournament" area soon.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 06 2013 14:31 GMT
#965
finally a korean terran going mech in tvz, weee
Terran & Potato Salad.
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
March 06 2013 14:31 GMT
#966
On March 06 2013 23:20 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 23:18 Big J wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:11 Insoleet wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:08 goswser wrote:
On March 06 2013 23:04 ilovekimchi wrote:
QXC was so right about just waiting for the fungal damage before going in on enemy mutas.

ps: Anyone remember snute's nordic looking knit hoodie? (where can i get one?). It was blue and white.

Yeah, but if you wait for the fungal damage then their mutas just fly away and heal you're screwed.


One important question :

Fungle does 40 damages to muta
How many seconds does an infestor need to be able to cast another fungle ?
How many seconds does a muta need to recover its 40 damages ?

I think this has a huge influence on the viability of infestors in ZvZ.


Energy regeneration is 0.5625 per second and a fungal needs 75energy and does 30damage.
Muta health regeneration is 1 per second.

So healing up works out extremly well for mutalisks. In the time an infestor regenerates 1fungal worth of energy every mutalisk could theoretically regenerate 133.3 HP.


Well, that's huge.

You absolutely need to kill some muta when you manage to fungle some of them, are it's bad news for long term play.

Well yeah, obviously. That's the same with all units though. S single fungal on marines will get healed by medivas. A fungal on stalkers only damage shields etc....
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
March 06 2013 14:32 GMT
#967
--- Nuked ---
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
March 06 2013 14:33 GMT
#968
On March 06 2013 23:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Looks like Vortix will join Snute in the "officially out of the tournament" area soon.



tbh its about time Foreigners were banned from taking part in these events they simply dont have the skills to pay the billls after 3 years of Starcraft

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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 06 2013 14:33 GMT
#969
On March 06 2013 23:31 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
finally a korean terran going mech in tvz, weee


That was the first time we saw a truly HoTS composition:

Hellbat, hellion buffer, siege and banshee dps. And a raven that was actually useful! Good times ahead.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
March 06 2013 14:33 GMT
#970
funny how QXC does everything to justify these games without admitting that terran is just really really strong against zerg.
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12043 Posts
March 06 2013 14:33 GMT
#971
On March 06 2013 23:33 looken wrote:
funny how QXC does everything to justify these games without admitting that terran is just really really strong against zerg.


Vortix handled everything there badly. Everything.
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
March 06 2013 14:34 GMT
#972
Well as a zerg.
It's a good thing to see zergs getting demolished.

At least it will now separated the top tier zergs and the mediocre zergs.
Play your best
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 06 2013 14:34 GMT
#973
Am I the only one watching the resultpage on liquipedia wanting everyone on the right of the matchlist to keep winning? OCD strikes again
KCCO!
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 06 2013 14:34 GMT
#974
On March 06 2013 23:33 looken wrote:
funny how QXC does everything to justify these games without admitting that terran is just really really strong against zerg.


Here Qxc was trying not to say directly that Vortix made a terrible decision by going only queens and lings versus hellion, reaper, WM pressure.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
March 06 2013 14:35 GMT
#975
On March 06 2013 23:33 Topdoller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 23:31 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Looks like Vortix will join Snute in the "officially out of the tournament" area soon.



tbh its about time Foreigners were banned from taking part in these events they simply dont have the skills to pay the billls after 3 years of Starcraft


I don't know about "banned" per se. Ret's doing particularly well this tournament, and there's always a chance for a foreigner to upset some Koreans (e.g., when Snute won HSC and actually became somewhat well-respected as a result).

Plus, viewership.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
March 06 2013 14:35 GMT
#976
On March 06 2013 23:33 looken wrote:
funny how QXC does everything to justify these games without admitting that terran is just really really strong against zerg.

Well that game told us nothing about if terran is OP, I'd argue Vortix has to atleast play decently and make any sense before we can say that push is OP. He had the correct tech, but he built units which the opponets units hard countered, just because...
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 14:37:11
March 06 2013 14:36 GMT
#977
geez, a lot of people are overrating the results here...

some players practised maybe 1-2 weeks of HotS due to late annoucement of ESL, that's not very much. and such, we don't know how much the zergs practised. viOlet probably practised a lot of HotS and it shows.

anyway, this tournament is way too early to make the final result very meaningful regarding balance. it's fun though, except for some players.
looken
Profile Joined September 2011
727 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 14:37:59
March 06 2013 14:37 GMT
#978
On March 06 2013 23:34 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 23:33 looken wrote:
funny how QXC does everything to justify these games without admitting that terran is just really really strong against zerg.


Here Qxc was trying not to say directly that Vortix made a terrible decision by going only queens and lings versus hellion, reaper, WM pressure.

what else should he have done? his roachwarren was maybe late yes, but there were 4 queens defending plus lings. thats a really solid defense on paper...

On March 06 2013 23:35 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 23:33 looken wrote:
funny how QXC does everything to justify these games without admitting that terran is just really really strong against zerg.

Well that game told us nothing about if terran is OP, I'd argue Vortix has to atleast play decently and make any sense before we can say that push is OP. He had the correct tech, but he built units which the opponets units hard countered, just because...

i didnt say anything about OP
"Jingle Bells, Tasteless smells" Artosis 17.12.15
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46243 Posts
March 06 2013 14:37 GMT
#979
On March 06 2013 23:34 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Am I the only one watching the resultpage on liquipedia wanting everyone on the right of the matchlist to keep winning? OCD strikes again


Judging by the remaining sets (and who's on the right side of the article), the rest of the right side could very well win!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 14:38:48
March 06 2013 14:38 GMT
#980
On March 06 2013 23:36 HolydaKing wrote:
geez, a lot of people are overrating the results here...

some players practised maybe 1-2 weeks of HotS due to late annoucement of ESL, that's not very much. and such, we don't know how much the zergs practised. viOlet probably practised a lot of HotS and it shows.

anyway, this tournament is way too early to make the final result very meaningful regarding balance. it's fun though, except for some players.

Agreed, people are reading way too much into these results. The performances we've seen so far say very very little about balance. The ro12-finals will be more telling than group stages, but even this won't tell that much.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
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