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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 05 2013 14:33 GMT
#1801
On March 05 2013 23:32 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Nathanias needs an observer


He's terran IIRC
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 05 2013 14:33 GMT
#1802
Poor MC, his friendship with LG-IM always being a difficult one, now he lost to both First and YoDa.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
March 05 2013 14:33 GMT
#1803
On March 05 2013 23:33 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:32 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Nathanias needs an observer


He's terran IIRC


A for effort.
LiquipediaWanderer
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
March 05 2013 14:34 GMT
#1804
I wonder if a foreigner will even win a bo3 against a korean in this tournament.. not looking good so far...but stephano still has to play so maybe?
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 14:35:29
March 05 2013 14:34 GMT
#1805
On March 05 2013 23:25 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:16 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:14 Zarahtra wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:09 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 Zarahtra wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:04 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:01 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:58 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:57 nomyx wrote:
It takes several months for a terran to call broodlord / infestor imba

it only takes 1 day for zergs to call skytoss imba

Yeah, but mediocre foreign zergs are used to beating top korean protosses.


Hopefully HotS is a wake up call for most zergs.


And put Protoss back to sleep. Because there was minimal micro needed for Parting.
Splitting voids ? what's that ?

Face it Protoss is the new zerg

Atleast we know that parting is an awesome player. We'll see if in a while every protoss becomes awesome all of a sudden(and clearly that would be just them playing and practicing really hard, right?). From what I've seen yet, they haven't.


Parting is an awsome player really skilled, so what does that matter ? He needed very little micro to win that battle, and i said this not because it think Parting is bad but because people whine about Slivko's micro yet did not look at what Parting had to do to win those fights.

Because in the least, a boring 1a movefest ended with the better player winning, and thankfully it is showing how great all these superstars that came out of nowhere and have been brutalizing the scene for a year are.

Furtheremore while zerg seems decently weak in HotS, protoss in no way seems as powerful as zerg has been. Slivko just camped against a superior player, expecting his deathball to be greater than his opponents with the end result being the superior player winning hands down, without any effort.


You are right it's forbidden for a foreign zerg to beat a korean.


BTW, should maybe watch some FPvods of these players you're talking about and make a comparison. Maybe control, mechanics, precision and multitasking aren't that relevant in SCII, I still think that they say some things about the dedication of the two players.


BTW maybe you should read a bit more first, this person was talking about all foreign zergs. Not Slivko. And i don't need to watch FPvods to know Parting is the better player i know it's true but that does not mean that all upcoming foreign zerg wins we got over 2012 of WoL were all because of the insane OP of the race.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 05 2013 14:34 GMT
#1806
Isn't xlord the guy who said he would be just as good as stephano with just 6 months of practice?
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
March 05 2013 14:34 GMT
#1807
hot girl before hasu

lucky guy
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
March 05 2013 14:34 GMT
#1808
On March 05 2013 23:32 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:32 nunez wrote:
what a terrible game between mc and yoda.


terrible game from MC, but Yoda played well?


yoda won handsomely, but i can't really tell if it's good play or not when mc just lays down and dies like that.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 05 2013 14:35 GMT
#1809
On March 05 2013 23:34 Irre wrote:
I wonder if a foreigner will even win a bo3 against a korean in this tournament.. not looking good so far...but stephano still has to play so maybe?

I think in group C it's a strong possibility
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 05 2013 14:35 GMT
#1810
On March 05 2013 23:32 Topin wrote:
Nathanias sound a lot like Mr.Bitter... mind blow


Harstem got some Bitter game too (not a natural one though)

Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
March 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#1811
On March 05 2013 23:34 Irre wrote:
I wonder if a foreigner will even win a bo3 against a korean in this tournament.. not looking good so far...but stephano still has to play so maybe?

If Mvp is playing he can lose to anyone
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#1812
Kas 2-1 Xlord, at least he's not going out without a win
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#1813
On March 05 2013 23:34 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:25 n0ise wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:16 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:14 Zarahtra wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:09 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:06 Zarahtra wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:04 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:01 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:58 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:57 nomyx wrote:
It takes several months for a terran to call broodlord / infestor imba

it only takes 1 day for zergs to call skytoss imba

Yeah, but mediocre foreign zergs are used to beating top korean protosses.


Hopefully HotS is a wake up call for most zergs.


And put Protoss back to sleep. Because there was minimal micro needed for Parting.
Splitting voids ? what's that ?

Face it Protoss is the new zerg

Atleast we know that parting is an awesome player. We'll see if in a while every protoss becomes awesome all of a sudden(and clearly that would be just them playing and practicing really hard, right?). From what I've seen yet, they haven't.


Parting is an awsome player really skilled, so what does that matter ? He needed very little micro to win that battle, and i said this not because it think Parting is bad but because people whine about Slivko's micro yet did not look at what Parting had to do to win those fights.

Because in the least, a boring 1a movefest ended with the better player winning, and thankfully it is showing how great all these superstars that came out of nowhere and have been brutalizing the scene for a year are.

Furtheremore while zerg seems decently weak in HotS, protoss in no way seems as powerful as zerg has been. Slivko just camped against a superior player, expecting his deathball to be greater than his opponents with the end result being the superior player winning hands down, without any effort.


You are right it's forbidden for a foreign zerg to beat a korean.


BTW, should maybe watch some FPvods of these players you're talking about and make a comparison. Maybe control, mechanics, precision and multitasking aren't that relevant in SCII, I still think that they say some things about the dedication of the two players.


BTW maybe you should read a bit more first, this person was talking about all foreign zergs. Not Slivko. And i don't need to watch FPvods to know Parting is the better player i know it's true but that does not mean that all upcoming foreign zerg wins we got over 2012 of WoL were all because of the insane OP of the race.


Yep, again, just try watching and making the comparison - I think you'll be blown away by the results.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#1814
On March 05 2013 23:34 nomyx wrote:
Isn't xlord the guy who said he would be just as good as stephano with just 6 months of practice?


I dislike the guy but it's a new game and the beta was not available these past days, so let's not draw conclusions.
Terran & Potato Salad.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#1815
Kas 2-1 xlord
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
March 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#1816
On March 05 2013 23:34 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:32 Asha` wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:32 nunez wrote:
what a terrible game between mc and yoda.


terrible game from MC, but Yoda played well?


yoda won handsomely, but i can't really tell if it's good play or not when mc just lays down and dies like that.

No detection loses to cloaked units, nothing new.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 14:37:36
March 05 2013 14:37 GMT
#1817
On March 05 2013 23:30 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:27 sAsImre wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:26 DidYuhim wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:25 sAsImre wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:24 Thrillz wrote:
To be honest I actually feel they are going to nerf prismatic aligment soon, as predicted as Artosis & Incontrol.


and Mech is better than bio in WoL.
Listening to Artosis isn't the best option.

But, it IS better for TvT and TvZ if used correctly.


That's why it has worse results lol.
First of all it's map dependant, nowhere near to be better vZ and no pro players said it was better vT.

It's pretty wierd you actually have stats like these. I wonder where they come from.


Only one meching T had results in 2012: Mvp. And still the GSL he won was against P so playing bio builds.
The best T players all mainly play bio/mech or pure bio: Mkp, Taeja, Bogus, Polt.
Despite having a good winrate Gumiho lost lots of series against players who don't use mech in TvT:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=2106&part=games&vs=T&league=standard&map=any&from_year=2012&from_month=1&from_day=27&to_year=2013&to_month=2&to_day=26&action=Update
Polt had the best 2012 results in foreign tournaments I think, I don't remember a single mech game from him.

I believe they were some stats gathered in late 2012.
Zest fanboy.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 05 2013 14:37 GMT
#1818
On March 05 2013 23:34 Irre wrote:
I wonder if a foreigner will even win a bo3 against a korean in this tournament.. not looking good so far...but stephano still has to play so maybe?


Socke has this ability to take series off of the best Koreans, he will probably win at least one bo3. Grubby, Mana, TLO and Stephano all could do it as well.

Then I thought Lucifron would own this tourney, so take my predictions lightly!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
March 05 2013 14:37 GMT
#1819
On March 05 2013 23:34 nunez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 23:32 Asha` wrote:
On March 05 2013 23:32 nunez wrote:
what a terrible game between mc and yoda.


terrible game from MC, but Yoda played well?


yoda won handsomely, but i can't really tell if it's good play or not when mc just lays down and dies like that.


ok, you were just commenting on the overall terribleness of it and not meaning both guys were terrible =p

MC's build was really weird. I mean you can get detection from 3 separate sources now as P but he chooses a build that has 0 even after confirming that Yoda had a relatively quick gas.
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
March 05 2013 14:37 GMT
#1820
The stream quality is sexy as always :D

I'm so excited!
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
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