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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 10:36:04
February 25 2013 10:35 GMT
#461
Wait, somethings seems to be wrong here. Why am I watching Ganzi vs Ragnarok? o.O

Edit: Oh my, refreshed and the third game was over xD
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 25 2013 10:35 GMT
#462
Poll: Recommend Azubu vs LG-IM Game 3?

Yes (16)
 
67%

No (6)
 
25%

If you have time (2)
 
8%

24 total votes

Your vote: Recommend Azubu vs LG-IM Game 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
February 25 2013 10:35 GMT
#463
What absolute domination from First, wow.

Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 25 2013 10:35 GMT
#464
Ganzi played quite bad in that game.His control seemed a bit off all game.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 25 2013 10:35 GMT
#465
So who do they send to take out First now?
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
February 25 2013 10:35 GMT
#466
ugh bad game.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 25 2013 10:35 GMT
#467
On February 25 2013 19:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
God Time Warp and Storm is so brutal to Terran bio I can't believe Protoss players actually complain about how not useful Time Warp is.

How does the time warp slow calculate? Is it before stim or after?
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
February 25 2013 10:35 GMT
#468
On February 25 2013 19:35 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Wait, somethings seems to be wrong here. Why am I watching Ganzi vs Ragnarok? o.O

f5?
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
February 25 2013 10:35 GMT
#469
Well played by First..gogo!
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
February 25 2013 10:35 GMT
#470
Fun fact: LG-IM has more better Protoss players in their roster ^_^ haha
@taefoxy
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
February 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#471
On February 25 2013 19:35 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 19:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
God Time Warp and Storm is so brutal to Terran bio I can't believe Protoss players actually complain about how not useful Time Warp is.

How does the time warp slow calculate? Is it before stim or after?


After.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
jjmmtt
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
February 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#472
Pretty sick use of 1 FF and 1 storm or 1 FF and 1 time warp, pretty nice micro there.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#473
First is smiling more than he did when he won IEM.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
February 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#474
Dang First, you scary.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
netherDrake
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Singapore1831 Posts
February 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#475
On February 25 2013 19:34 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 19:33 Fearest wrote:
i don't see how Terran can win versus Protoss. It was bad in WoL, but now it's just ridiculous.


Terran was strong against protoss in WoL.



The matchup was pretty even in WoL, only pre-emp nerf terran was strong against toss
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#476
That was purely WoL, widow mines did nothing at all.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12042 Posts
February 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#477
On February 25 2013 19:33 iSunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 19:31 Qikz wrote:
On February 25 2013 19:29 iSunrise wrote:
On February 25 2013 19:27 Qikz wrote:
On February 25 2013 19:26 iSunrise wrote:
On February 25 2013 19:21 sitromit wrote:
By the way, I'm not theorycrafting about using 20-30 mines to blow up an entire army. People are actually doing this on the ladder. With Drilling Claws, they can run straight into the army, burrow them instantly, and they all fire. They do enough single target damage to one-shot most units, so with smart fire and the splash on top, they one shot an army.

Looks like Blizzard needs to remove that upgrade then. It´s about as silly and counter-productive for the game as Khaydarin Amulet was. The widow mine is fine without out.

Warp in units and storm everything = Move in units and instakill them.


Without the upgrade it basically makes the mines worthless against toss as against skytoss the mines are one of the only counters you can actually use for tempests.

Also I'm not going to hold out hope for mech today. I really want to see it, but I feel Blizzard may have to patch the game at release if they want people to use it as currently pros don't seem to like it.

No, they are not worthless. Mines are not for attacking an army upfront like marines/marauders are. They are mines. If they can be used like what sitromit wrote, that just doesn´t fit at all.


Without that utility the mines will never kill anything from a smart player. They won't even slow the other guy down as you can't get enough to make it hard to get through a minefield without making your army too small.

Anyways I don't really want to argue in here, I'd rather just watch the games.

That´s true for all units. All smart players need to adjust their game WRT the enemy units/builds. Like I said, these are mines and not instakill attack units. I don´t think you´re really disagreeing with me here.

And like I said, if you want to kill Tempest(s), a terran needs vikings, like in WoL. A Tempest is a pretty weak unit if not massed or supported by ground.


Vikings alone do not actually beat tempests, even with good upgrades. They trade horribly as every time you move back or forward you get shot, you basically have to fully commit with all your vikings in one go and you'll lose the majority of them.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
February 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#478
On February 25 2013 19:36 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 19:35 bo1b wrote:
On February 25 2013 19:34 Vindicare605 wrote:
God Time Warp and Storm is so brutal to Terran bio I can't believe Protoss players actually complain about how not useful Time Warp is.

How does the time warp slow calculate? Is it before stim or after?


After.

Thank you sir.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 10:37:15
February 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#479
Who has Azubu got now to snipe a Protoss?
Genius would be a choice i guess?
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
February 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#480
Fun game and nicely done by First!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
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