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Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
February 08 2013 12:23 GMT
#1401
Cats in code S.

I see.
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
February 08 2013 12:24 GMT
#1402
This just might work, hoping MKP can do it here.
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
February 08 2013 12:24 GMT
#1403
"We can't talk about cats eating my dead dad."

I love Tasteless.
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Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
February 08 2013 12:24 GMT
#1404
--- Nuked ---
yoigen
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany369 Posts
February 08 2013 12:25 GMT
#1405
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 08 2013 21:19 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 21:17 TheDwf wrote:
On February 08 2013 21:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
I've said before about Marineking. Passive Mech is the exact opposite playstyle of his strengths as a player.

Marineking is creative, he has incredible micro, he has brilliant multi-tasking when microing units and managing production structures, he's very good when he's being aggressive.

Passive mech requires patience, it requires careful planning, it requires superb scouting and information gathering for knowing how to construct the unit composition and when to move out. Those are all characteristics that can be classified as weaknesses for him.

If he's gonna go mech he has to be aggressive with it. 2 base thor timings for example or he has to stick to bio. Passive mech isn't a good style for him.

Yeah, don't understand why he's so stubborn about playing something which clearly doesn't fit his style.


I have to assume it's a coaching decision.

It's obvious that he's much more comfortable when using bio units than he is with Tanks and Thors, he's also way more comfortable attacking than he is defending. It just doesn't make sense to me that a player would intentionally play a style that doesn't fit him unless he had someone telling him to do it.



Don't you think MKP knows better what fits his style than you?
Pretty cocky to think you have the knowledge to tell what "fits" and what doesn't to someone who is probably 100x better than you and plays the game every day.
Today I didn't even have to use my AK, I gotta say it was a good day.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 08 2013 12:25 GMT
#1406
On February 08 2013 21:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 21:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro16 Group B
MarineKing vs Symbol
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Icarus

0:00
MarineKing spawns in the top left
Symbol spawns in the bottom right

2:00
Hatch first for Symbol
CC first for Marineking
pool for Symbol
rax for Marineking

3:00
gas for Marineking on the rich geyser

4:00
tech lab from Marineking
ebay for Marineking in his main wall
stim research started for Marineking

5:00
2 more rax for Marineking
rich gas and another gas for Symbol
bunker at the main wall for Marineking
+1 attack started for Marineking
Marauder production started for Marineking

6:00
double evo for Symbol
spine at the main ramp for Symbol
Lair for Symbol
2 more rax for Marineking
3rd gas for Symbol
Factory for Marineking
2 reactors for Marineking

7:00
1-1 roach upgrades for Symbol
Roach warren for Symbol
Marineking walling off his back rocks
Combat shields for Marineking
Roach speed for Symbol
3rd base for Symbol

8:00
Starport for Symbol
Burrow research started for Symbol
+1 armor started for Marineking
Marineking pushing out with a bio force
double medivac production started for Marineking

9:00
Marineking pushing the 3rd of Symbol
Symbol cancels his 3rd when he sees the bio
Marineking backs off after the cancel
Concussive shells started for Marineking
3rd base restarted for Symbol
Symbol comes out to engage marineking

10:00
Marineking loses a lot of units
Symbol burrows his roaches
queens kill one of the medivacs and almost get the 2nd
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Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
February 08 2013 12:25 GMT
#1407
BiiiiitByyyBiiiiiit
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12379 Posts
February 08 2013 12:25 GMT
#1408
On February 08 2013 21:15 sibs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 21:12 Nebuchad wrote:
On February 08 2013 21:11 sibs wrote:
On February 08 2013 21:09 Nebuchad wrote:
On February 08 2013 21:07 sibs wrote:
On February 08 2013 20:59 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 08 2013 20:58 sibs wrote:
On February 08 2013 20:56 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 08 2013 20:55 sibs wrote:
Let me remind the protoss QQers that P has >50% win rate vs Zerg.


Oh FFS, worst argument



Yea, let's ignore all of the protosses strength's and just cry about Zerg's strength, it's not like forcefields are abusive as fuck vs zerg right?

Soulkey killing that BUILT nexus was huge.


Nobody is arguing that protoss midgame is too weak. You're addressing a matchup as a whole when all that's being discussed is the lategame stage. Your argument contributes nothing to the discussion. Give me a lategame statistic, that's what's relevant



There is no discussion being had, there is whining being had.

The game ia asymmetric, get used to it.


Yeah that doesn't sound like something you would say if protoss won every lategame match... nice blinders.



Only in protoss land Zerg wins every late game match.


That makes your own argument invalid. Please choose what you're defending. If you're saying "protoss wins midgame zerg wins lategame", don't say "zerg doesn't win lategame" in the next post.


Are you fluent in english?

You should practice reading comprehension it's a good skill to have.


Lol.
No will to live, no wish to die
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 08 2013 12:26 GMT
#1409
On February 08 2013 21:21 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 21:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It's times like these you learn to scout again


It's times like these you scan and scan again?


I wasn't sure how to continue after the first line but I'll take that ^__^

We need more racial diversity in GSL. Let's drop everybody who loses here to Code A and give seeds to protoss.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
February 08 2013 12:26 GMT
#1410
Oh no...well this is just about over I guess?
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
February 08 2013 12:26 GMT
#1411
And the headbashing continues
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 12:27:54
February 08 2013 12:26 GMT
#1412
MKP really didn't need to be agressive, let alone pull SCVs there. I'm so confused.

EDIT: Now I look like an idiot.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 08 2013 12:27 GMT
#1413
Wall > head?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16117 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 12:28:36
February 08 2013 12:27 GMT
#1414
On February 08 2013 21:25 yoigen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 08 2013 21:19 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 21:17 TheDwf wrote:
On February 08 2013 21:16 Vindicare605 wrote:
I've said before about Marineking. Passive Mech is the exact opposite playstyle of his strengths as a player.

Marineking is creative, he has incredible micro, he has brilliant multi-tasking when microing units and managing production structures, he's very good when he's being aggressive.

Passive mech requires patience, it requires careful planning, it requires superb scouting and information gathering for knowing how to construct the unit composition and when to move out. Those are all characteristics that can be classified as weaknesses for him.

If he's gonna go mech he has to be aggressive with it. 2 base thor timings for example or he has to stick to bio. Passive mech isn't a good style for him.

Yeah, don't understand why he's so stubborn about playing something which clearly doesn't fit his style.


I have to assume it's a coaching decision.

It's obvious that he's much more comfortable when using bio units than he is with Tanks and Thors, he's also way more comfortable attacking than he is defending. It just doesn't make sense to me that a player would intentionally play a style that doesn't fit him unless he had someone telling him to do it.



Don't you think MKP knows better what fits his style than you?
Pretty cocky to think you have the knowledge to tell what "fits" and what doesn't to someone who is probably 100x better than you and plays the game every day.



I've been watching this kid for 2 years now. He looks like a fish out of water when he plays Passive Mech. In the beginning most of us just assumed that he'd adapt to it and learn it like any other build order but 2 years later I think it's safe to say that it's just a style that doesn't fit him.

This isn't even just my opinion, I think this is everyone's opinion that watches him a lot.

Polt is a very similar player and he doesn't try and force out builds like that he just sticks to what works and shines with it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
McBengt
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1684 Posts
February 08 2013 12:27 GMT
#1415
Or not, go MKP!
"My twelve year old will out-reason Bill Maher when it comes to understanding, you know, what, uh, how to logic work" - Rick Santorum
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 08 2013 12:27 GMT
#1416
On February 08 2013 21:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 21:21 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 08 2013 21:18 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro16 Group B
MarineKing vs Symbol
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Icarus

0:00
MarineKing spawns in the top left
Symbol spawns in the bottom right

2:00
Hatch first for Symbol
CC first for Marineking
pool for Symbol
rax for Marineking

3:00
gas for Marineking on the rich geyser

4:00
tech lab from Marineking
ebay for Marineking in his main wall
stim research started for Marineking

5:00
2 more rax for Marineking
rich gas and another gas for Symbol
bunker at the main wall for Marineking
+1 attack started for Marineking
Marauder production started for Marineking

6:00
double evo for Symbol
spine at the main ramp for Symbol
Lair for Symbol
2 more rax for Marineking
3rd gas for Symbol
Factory for Marineking
2 reactors for Marineking

7:00
1-1 roach upgrades for Symbol
Roach warren for Symbol
Marineking walling off his back rocks
Combat shields for Marineking
Roach speed for Symbol
3rd base for Symbol

8:00
Starport for Symbol
Burrow research started for Symbol
+1 armor started for Marineking
Marineking pushing out with a bio force
double medivac production started for Marineking

9:00
Marineking pushing the 3rd of Symbol
Symbol cancels his 3rd when he sees the bio
Marineking backs off after the cancel
Concussive shells started for Marineking
3rd base restarted for Symbol
Symbol comes out to engage marineking

10:00
Marineking loses a lot of units
Symbol burrows his roaches
queens kill one of the medivacs and almost get the 2nd

11:00
Marineking pulls a ton of scvs and stars moving across the map
Marineking is ahead by 20 supply
+1 melee and +2 carapace started for Symbol
Symbol sacks his 3rd base
infestation pit finishes for Symbol
macro hatch for Symbol
12:00
Roacch counter attack from Symbol
3rd of Symbol is killed
Symbol turns his roaches around
Marineking pushes into the main of Symbol
queens are trying to transfuse
roaches flank the army of Marineking
Roaches clean up the army of Marineking
Marineking has to lift all his forces

13:00
2nd bio force moving out for Marineking
pathogen glands started for Symbol
Marineking is still ahead by 10 supply
Marineking cleaning up some of the creep
infestor production startedf or Symbol
3rd base restartedf or Symbol
Marineking pushes into the main of Symbol again
Symbol engages the army of Marineking

14:00
Roaches of Symbol are crushed
Symbol ggs!
MarineKing ties it up 1-1!
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 08 2013 12:27 GMT
#1417
Prime Terrans have the best ability to snap call these weird SCV pulls.
When I try that on ladder, 80% of the time, it fails miserably :D
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 08 2013 12:27 GMT
#1418
yes whew MKP come on
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 08 2013 12:27 GMT
#1419
Oh look, MKP goes BIO and wins...
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 08 2013 12:27 GMT
#1420
Head > wall?
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
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