• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:08
CET 07:08
KST 15:08
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation12Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
Zerg is losing its identity in StarCraft 2 Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview [TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What happened to TvZ on Retro? SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
PvZ map balance Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers How to stay on top of macro?
Other Games
General Games
Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Clair Obscur - Expedition 33
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2014 users

[Code A] GSL S1 2013 Preliminaries - Page 91

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
1954 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 89 90 91 92 93 98 Next
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
January 31 2013 09:57 GMT
#1801
On January 31 2013 18:54 Aserrin wrote:
Is it just me or is Day 2 way, way more stacked than Day 1?

Yeah I also got this impression: Tear vs TheStC, Crazy vs JangBi and Brown vs Maru are pretty stacked finals
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 31 2013 09:58 GMT
#1802
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 31 2013 10:02 GMT
#1803
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
January 31 2013 10:02 GMT
#1804
wow damnit Cure didn't get through..
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 31 2013 10:02 GMT
#1805
Wow, KT finally got one of their players not named Flash into the GSL. Congrats guys.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
January 31 2013 10:06 GMT
#1806
This yugioh suspense is seriously disctracting me from other business
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 31 2013 10:06 GMT
#1807
On January 31 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p

Which begs the question of what the hell did they do to all those Korean Terrans? We used to be swimming in them, from Code B to Code S...
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 31 2013 10:06 GMT
#1808
On January 31 2013 18:55 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 18:54 Aserrin wrote:
Is it just me or is Day 2 way, way more stacked than Day 1?

Well there was 1 additional bracket, which may give the impression of more good players?


Well, after the 1st session yesterday (1/4 of the brackets played). Someone mention that 1/2 - 1/3 of the 'good' Kespa players were out already. So I think there is some 'bias' as to which players are 'good'. If a lot of your favorites are playing in the same session, you tend to think that is the 'hardest' one since most people 'overvalue' their favorites.
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
January 31 2013 10:08 GMT
#1809
On January 31 2013 19:06 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p

Which begs the question of what the hell did they do to all those Korean Terrans? We used to be swimming in them, from Code B to Code S...


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Patch_1.4.3#Balance_Update

Seriously though, this isn't news - Terran hasn't been nearly as dominant for a long time.
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
January 31 2013 10:08 GMT
#1810
very impressive showing from SKT I think except for Paralyze who got knock out by the king of code A every SKT players get to the final of their bracket. Hope this will translate well into Pro League result
joofro92
Profile Joined July 2011
United States108 Posts
January 31 2013 10:09 GMT
#1811
On January 31 2013 19:06 Ketch wrote:
This yugioh suspense is seriously disctracting me from other business

yea T____T F5 spam here...
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
January 31 2013 10:10 GMT
#1812
WE NEED ROOT IN CODE A
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
joofro92
Profile Joined July 2011
United States108 Posts
January 31 2013 10:11 GMT
#1813
Yugioh Wins 4 different PvZ's today :D
jackrlong
Profile Joined April 2012
United States49 Posts
January 31 2013 10:11 GMT
#1814
Let's go YUGIOH! #heartofthecards
I've made a huge mistake.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 10:15:05
January 31 2013 10:12 GMT
#1815
On January 31 2013 19:06 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p

Which begs the question of what the hell did they do to all those Korean Terrans? We used to be swimming in them, from Code B to Code S...


The meta game is just not terran friendly at the moment. 2011 was so dominate for terran that they got a lot of nerfs (not just the units/spells themselves but maps as well. Also, players have gotten a lot better that one of the main advantages of terrans (drops, multi pronge attacks) just aren't as good anymore. Players like MMA didn't just forget how to drop overnight. But drops overall just don't do as much damage due to better defense.

The meta is more about 200/200 now and T3 terran units have always been terrible. Again, the units themselves aren't bad but transitions are so hard to do. Again, the reason T3 was weak was because marines were so flexible and strong. But in the current meta, marines just don't cut it anymore.

The balance patches seemed to have been balanced assuming perfect terran micro. If you have zerg landing 'sick' fungals or protoss landing 'perfect' FFs, they usually gain a big advantage. But when you see terran with great 'splits', the engagement is usually only a draw/trade. There is just a lot less room for making errors as terran right now.
xpaperclip
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 10:35:52
January 31 2013 10:12 GMT
#1816
YugiOh 2-1 MyuNgSik. The King of Code A is back.

And that's it for this Code A qualifiers!

Qualified in the day 2 afternoon session:
      (Z)EffOrt (CJ)
      (P)soO (SKT)
      (Z)Crazy-Hydra (KT)
      (P)Avenge (ST)
      (T)Maru (Prime)
      (Z)YugiOh (Root)
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 10:13:46
January 31 2013 10:12 GMT
#1817
And from his stream, his ZvP is pretty damn good... Plus he IS THE KING OF CODE A

EDIT! Fuck yeah, the king is ready to sit back on his throne
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 31 2013 10:14 GMT
#1818
On January 31 2013 19:12 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 19:06 aksfjh wrote:
On January 31 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p

Which begs the question of what the hell did they do to all those Korean Terrans? We used to be swimming in them, from Code B to Code S...


The meta game is just not terran friendly at the moment. 2011 was so dominate for terran that they got a lot of nerfs (not just the units/spells themselves but maps as well. Also, players have gotten a lot better that one of the main advantages of terrans (drops, multi pronge attacks) just aren't as good anymore. Players like MMA didn't just forget how to drop overnight. But drops overall just don't do as much damage due to better defense.

The meta is more about 200/200 now and T3 terran units have always been terrible. Again, the units themselves aren't bad but transitions are so hard to do. Again, the reason T3 was weak was because marines were so flexible and strong. But in the current meta, marines just don't cut it anymore.

I know that, but those Terrans have apparently disappeared off the map. That's what is odd. :/
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
January 31 2013 10:15 GMT
#1819
Yes! ROOT4ROOT!

Man I hope CatZ sent Yugioh a shirt to wear for GSL matches.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 31 2013 10:16 GMT
#1820
On January 31 2013 19:14 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 19:12 vthree wrote:
On January 31 2013 19:06 aksfjh wrote:
On January 31 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p

Which begs the question of what the hell did they do to all those Korean Terrans? We used to be swimming in them, from Code B to Code S...


The meta game is just not terran friendly at the moment. 2011 was so dominate for terran that they got a lot of nerfs (not just the units/spells themselves but maps as well. Also, players have gotten a lot better that one of the main advantages of terrans (drops, multi pronge attacks) just aren't as good anymore. Players like MMA didn't just forget how to drop overnight. But drops overall just don't do as much damage due to better defense.

The meta is more about 200/200 now and T3 terran units have always been terrible. Again, the units themselves aren't bad but transitions are so hard to do. Again, the reason T3 was weak was because marines were so flexible and strong. But in the current meta, marines just don't cut it anymore.

I know that, but those Terrans have apparently disappeared off the map. That's what is odd. :/


Well, the win rate has been dropping to 3X% for TvZs. And with the large number of zergs, terrans just get knocked out. When you start losing, you go from Code S to Code A to Code B.
Prev 1 89 90 91 92 93 98 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
20:30
Best Games of SC
Serral vs Clem
Solar vs Cure
Serral vs Clem
Reynor vs GuMiho
herO vs Cure
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
19:00
Masters Cup #150: Group B
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 193
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 307
yabsab 120
Bale 10
Dota 2
monkeys_forever515
NeuroSwarm89
League of Legends
JimRising 664
Other Games
summit1g14627
fl0m512
WinterStarcraft395
Fuzer 180
ViBE160
Mew2King88
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick506
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt454
• HappyZerGling113
Other Games
• Scarra837
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 52m
RSL Revival
3h 52m
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
5h 52m
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
5h 52m
BSL 21
13h 52m
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
13h 52m
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
16h 52m
Wardi Open
1d 5h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 10h
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL: GosuLeague
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
BSL: GosuLeague
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Julia vs Artosis
JDConan vs DragOn
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-14
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.