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PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
January 31 2013 09:57 GMT
#1801
On January 31 2013 18:54 Aserrin wrote:
Is it just me or is Day 2 way, way more stacked than Day 1?

Yeah I also got this impression: Tear vs TheStC, Crazy vs JangBi and Brown vs Maru are pretty stacked finals
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 31 2013 09:58 GMT
#1802
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
January 31 2013 10:02 GMT
#1803
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4415 Posts
January 31 2013 10:02 GMT
#1804
wow damnit Cure didn't get through..
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
January 31 2013 10:02 GMT
#1805
Wow, KT finally got one of their players not named Flash into the GSL. Congrats guys.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
January 31 2013 10:06 GMT
#1806
This yugioh suspense is seriously disctracting me from other business
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 31 2013 10:06 GMT
#1807
On January 31 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p

Which begs the question of what the hell did they do to all those Korean Terrans? We used to be swimming in them, from Code B to Code S...
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 31 2013 10:06 GMT
#1808
On January 31 2013 18:55 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 18:54 Aserrin wrote:
Is it just me or is Day 2 way, way more stacked than Day 1?

Well there was 1 additional bracket, which may give the impression of more good players?


Well, after the 1st session yesterday (1/4 of the brackets played). Someone mention that 1/2 - 1/3 of the 'good' Kespa players were out already. So I think there is some 'bias' as to which players are 'good'. If a lot of your favorites are playing in the same session, you tend to think that is the 'hardest' one since most people 'overvalue' their favorites.
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
January 31 2013 10:08 GMT
#1809
On January 31 2013 19:06 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p

Which begs the question of what the hell did they do to all those Korean Terrans? We used to be swimming in them, from Code B to Code S...


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Patch_1.4.3#Balance_Update

Seriously though, this isn't news - Terran hasn't been nearly as dominant for a long time.
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
January 31 2013 10:08 GMT
#1810
very impressive showing from SKT I think except for Paralyze who got knock out by the king of code A every SKT players get to the final of their bracket. Hope this will translate well into Pro League result
joofro92
Profile Joined July 2011
United States108 Posts
January 31 2013 10:09 GMT
#1811
On January 31 2013 19:06 Ketch wrote:
This yugioh suspense is seriously disctracting me from other business

yea T____T F5 spam here...
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
January 31 2013 10:10 GMT
#1812
WE NEED ROOT IN CODE A
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
joofro92
Profile Joined July 2011
United States108 Posts
January 31 2013 10:11 GMT
#1813
Yugioh Wins 4 different PvZ's today :D
jackrlong
Profile Joined April 2012
United States49 Posts
January 31 2013 10:11 GMT
#1814
Let's go YUGIOH! #heartofthecards
I've made a huge mistake.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 10:15:05
January 31 2013 10:12 GMT
#1815
On January 31 2013 19:06 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p

Which begs the question of what the hell did they do to all those Korean Terrans? We used to be swimming in them, from Code B to Code S...


The meta game is just not terran friendly at the moment. 2011 was so dominate for terran that they got a lot of nerfs (not just the units/spells themselves but maps as well. Also, players have gotten a lot better that one of the main advantages of terrans (drops, multi pronge attacks) just aren't as good anymore. Players like MMA didn't just forget how to drop overnight. But drops overall just don't do as much damage due to better defense.

The meta is more about 200/200 now and T3 terran units have always been terrible. Again, the units themselves aren't bad but transitions are so hard to do. Again, the reason T3 was weak was because marines were so flexible and strong. But in the current meta, marines just don't cut it anymore.

The balance patches seemed to have been balanced assuming perfect terran micro. If you have zerg landing 'sick' fungals or protoss landing 'perfect' FFs, they usually gain a big advantage. But when you see terran with great 'splits', the engagement is usually only a draw/trade. There is just a lot less room for making errors as terran right now.
xpaperclip
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia995 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 10:35:52
January 31 2013 10:12 GMT
#1816
YugiOh 2-1 MyuNgSik. The King of Code A is back.

And that's it for this Code A qualifiers!

Qualified in the day 2 afternoon session:
      (Z)EffOrt (CJ)
      (P)soO (SKT)
      (Z)Crazy-Hydra (KT)
      (P)Avenge (ST)
      (T)Maru (Prime)
      (Z)YugiOh (Root)
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 10:13:46
January 31 2013 10:12 GMT
#1817
And from his stream, his ZvP is pretty damn good... Plus he IS THE KING OF CODE A

EDIT! Fuck yeah, the king is ready to sit back on his throne
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 31 2013 10:14 GMT
#1818
On January 31 2013 19:12 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 19:06 aksfjh wrote:
On January 31 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p

Which begs the question of what the hell did they do to all those Korean Terrans? We used to be swimming in them, from Code B to Code S...


The meta game is just not terran friendly at the moment. 2011 was so dominate for terran that they got a lot of nerfs (not just the units/spells themselves but maps as well. Also, players have gotten a lot better that one of the main advantages of terrans (drops, multi pronge attacks) just aren't as good anymore. Players like MMA didn't just forget how to drop overnight. But drops overall just don't do as much damage due to better defense.

The meta is more about 200/200 now and T3 terran units have always been terrible. Again, the units themselves aren't bad but transitions are so hard to do. Again, the reason T3 was weak was because marines were so flexible and strong. But in the current meta, marines just don't cut it anymore.

I know that, but those Terrans have apparently disappeared off the map. That's what is odd. :/
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
January 31 2013 10:15 GMT
#1819
Yes! ROOT4ROOT!

Man I hope CatZ sent Yugioh a shirt to wear for GSL matches.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 31 2013 10:16 GMT
#1820
On January 31 2013 19:14 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 19:12 vthree wrote:
On January 31 2013 19:06 aksfjh wrote:
On January 31 2013 19:02 Fragile51 wrote:
On January 31 2013 18:58 aksfjh wrote:
So many Protoss qualifying. Jeez.


Well they had to be somewhere, they are not in code S so i'm guessing they are all in code B :p

Which begs the question of what the hell did they do to all those Korean Terrans? We used to be swimming in them, from Code B to Code S...


The meta game is just not terran friendly at the moment. 2011 was so dominate for terran that they got a lot of nerfs (not just the units/spells themselves but maps as well. Also, players have gotten a lot better that one of the main advantages of terrans (drops, multi pronge attacks) just aren't as good anymore. Players like MMA didn't just forget how to drop overnight. But drops overall just don't do as much damage due to better defense.

The meta is more about 200/200 now and T3 terran units have always been terrible. Again, the units themselves aren't bad but transitions are so hard to do. Again, the reason T3 was weak was because marines were so flexible and strong. But in the current meta, marines just don't cut it anymore.

I know that, but those Terrans have apparently disappeared off the map. That's what is odd. :/


Well, the win rate has been dropping to 3X% for TvZs. And with the large number of zergs, terrans just get knocked out. When you start losing, you go from Code S to Code A to Code B.
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