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On January 22 2013 19:31 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:28 Zealously wrote:On January 22 2013 19:27 Pandemona wrote:ZvZs like this the reason i hate the match up  So boring and meh. Id rather watch 4gate vs 4gate atleast micro prevails over a moving 101001 lings ;_; You call that... Did you... I don't... Okay, seriously. What quality are you watching in? Because what Life did last game (and partly this game too) is not in a million years anything like A-moving. So what he did this game, making 10101 speed lings and a moving into a RW 2 Queens and 3 SCs being build was not just lets target down some units and kill as much as we can with tier 1 units ;_; That is boring to me, it's just a build order win inside 5minutes. Least with 4gate vs 4gate u normally see a decent engagement before someone loses. Thats what i don't like about ZvZ when it is the rock paper scissors openings, or when it is ling bane vs ling bane
Ling/Bane vs Ling/Bane is basically the very 4 gate thing you just said you enjoyed but with far far far more micro involved from both parties. Those ling/bane wars to both play and watch are a very unique experience that actually make me want to play more zerg.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On January 22 2013 19:31 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:28 Zealously wrote:On January 22 2013 19:27 Pandemona wrote:ZvZs like this the reason i hate the match up  So boring and meh. Id rather watch 4gate vs 4gate atleast micro prevails over a moving 101001 lings ;_; You call that... Did you... I don't... Okay, seriously. What quality are you watching in? Because what Life did last game (and partly this game too) is not in a million years anything like A-moving. So what he did this game, making 10101 speed lings and a moving into a RW 2 Queens and 3 SCs being build was not just lets target down some units and kill as much as we can with tier 1 units ;_; That is boring to me, it's just a build order win inside 5minutes. Least with 4gate vs 4gate u normally see a decent engagement before someone loses. Thats what i don't like about ZvZ when it is the rock paper scissors openings, or when it is ling bane vs ling bane
The idea that micro isn't what won Life this series is incorrect. He won the first game on the back of mostly his micro. I'll admit that the second game was partly a BO win, but that you dislike ZvZ does not make the match-up rock paper scissors (it can be, sometimes, admittedly) - the match-up is just extremely punishing, fast-paced and intense.
Edit: As for ling/Bane vs. ling/bane; that's basicly the micro war (which you claim to enjoy?) of ZvZ.
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oho GSL, playing LIFEhouse
I have so many jokes to make with "Creator" versus "Life" ...
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On January 22 2013 19:33 sparklyresidue wrote: Anyone having some weirdness with their GSL experience? I'm getting massive massive lag, and it keeps time traveling, I.e. I just refreshed my browser and it started showing me Life vs. Symbol, g1.
No thats just the new global standard for 2013 with their flash player :p Watch via Twitch instead. twitch.tv/gomtv/new
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Go watch Leenock vs Life from IronSquid. Probably one of THE best ZvZ ever.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On January 22 2013 19:31 fcb10 wrote: TSL4 finals rematch!!!
They've played after that, but yeah! Guaranteed top match-up! :D
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On January 22 2013 19:34 Tobblish wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:33 sparklyresidue wrote: Anyone having some weirdness with their GSL experience? I'm getting massive massive lag, and it keeps time traveling, I.e. I just refreshed my browser and it started showing me Life vs. Symbol, g1. No thats just the new global standard for 2013 with their flash player :p Watch via Twitch instead. twitch.tv/gomtv/new Hey thanks for the link. Is there any way to use my GSL ticket via Twitch or do I need yet another ticket to watch through twitch at anything greater than 360p?
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51470 Posts
On January 22 2013 19:33 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:31 Pandemona wrote:On January 22 2013 19:28 Zealously wrote:On January 22 2013 19:27 Pandemona wrote:ZvZs like this the reason i hate the match up  So boring and meh. Id rather watch 4gate vs 4gate atleast micro prevails over a moving 101001 lings ;_; You call that... Did you... I don't... Okay, seriously. What quality are you watching in? Because what Life did last game (and partly this game too) is not in a million years anything like A-moving. So what he did this game, making 10101 speed lings and a moving into a RW 2 Queens and 3 SCs being build was not just lets target down some units and kill as much as we can with tier 1 units ;_; That is boring to me, it's just a build order win inside 5minutes. Least with 4gate vs 4gate u normally see a decent engagement before someone loses. Thats what i don't like about ZvZ when it is the rock paper scissors openings, or when it is ling bane vs ling bane Ling/Bane vs Ling/Bane is basically the very 4 gate thing you just said you enjoyed but with far far far more micro involved from both parties. Those ling/bane wars to both play and watch are a very unique experience that actually make me want to play more zerg.
But it's micro on the level of 100mph units and 1mph banes, i agree it probably takes more micro than 4gate vs 4gate, but i haven't seen a ling bane game that has made me go, oh wow nice play ;_;
Guess it is just my personal preference! xD
On January 22 2013 19:33 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:31 Pandemona wrote:On January 22 2013 19:28 Zealously wrote:On January 22 2013 19:27 Pandemona wrote:ZvZs like this the reason i hate the match up  So boring and meh. Id rather watch 4gate vs 4gate atleast micro prevails over a moving 101001 lings ;_; You call that... Did you... I don't... Okay, seriously. What quality are you watching in? Because what Life did last game (and partly this game too) is not in a million years anything like A-moving. So what he did this game, making 10101 speed lings and a moving into a RW 2 Queens and 3 SCs being build was not just lets target down some units and kill as much as we can with tier 1 units ;_; That is boring to me, it's just a build order win inside 5minutes. Least with 4gate vs 4gate u normally see a decent engagement before someone loses. Thats what i don't like about ZvZ when it is the rock paper scissors openings, or when it is ling bane vs ling bane The idea that micro isn't what won Life this series is incorrect. He won the first game on the back of mostly his micro. I'll admit that the second game was partly a BO win, but that you dislike ZvZ does not make the match-up rock paper scissors (it can be, sometimes, admittedly) - the match-up is just extremely punishing, fast-paced and intense. Edit: As for ling/Bane vs. ling/bane; that's basicly the micro war (which you claim to enjoy?) of ZvZ.
Yeah i enjoy micro wars but on that level it seems silly, would be the equivalent of micro'n chargelots vs stalkers, it's just silly. OFC take my posts with a pinch of salt, i am pretty biased as i have never liked ZvZ unless it gets passed the Ling/Bane stage, then imo it becomes an enjoyable match up. Macro normally prevails, or the perfect timing attacks.
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wow what's up with this music. it's nice but, not very gsl-esque
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Is there anything that involves more micro then ling/bane wars?
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Why can't they just play all happy Kpop? T_T
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On January 22 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:They've played after that, but yeah! Guaranteed top match-up! :D No more Parting for Life to practise with though. Let's see if that changed anything
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On January 22 2013 19:35 bo1b wrote: Is there anything that involves more micro then ling/bane wars?
Splitting marines against bling and infestors?
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On January 22 2013 19:36 Weirdkid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:On January 22 2013 19:31 fcb10 wrote: TSL4 finals rematch!!! They've played after that, but yeah! Guaranteed top match-up! :D No more Parting for Life to practise with though. Let's see if that changed anything  well creator has all of like... terius to practice with haha
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On January 22 2013 19:36 Tobblish wrote: Why can't they just play all happy Kpop? T_T
kpop generally sucks without the music videos
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On January 22 2013 19:35 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:34 Tobblish wrote:On January 22 2013 19:33 sparklyresidue wrote: Anyone having some weirdness with their GSL experience? I'm getting massive massive lag, and it keeps time traveling, I.e. I just refreshed my browser and it started showing me Life vs. Symbol, g1. No thats just the new global standard for 2013 with their flash player :p Watch via Twitch instead. twitch.tv/gomtv/new Hey thanks for the link. Is there any way to use my GSL ticket via Twitch or do I need yet another ticket to watch through twitch at anything greater than 360p? Atm you need another ticket but i would hold off for a moment. There is no way then can risk having payed costumers pay twice and will most likely find a way around it.
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On January 22 2013 19:37 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:36 Weirdkid wrote:On January 22 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:On January 22 2013 19:31 fcb10 wrote: TSL4 finals rematch!!! They've played after that, but yeah! Guaranteed top match-up! :D No more Parting for Life to practise with though. Let's see if that changed anything  well creator has all of like... terius to practice with haha
I'm sure he practices outside prime for PvZ
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United States97276 Posts
On January 22 2013 19:37 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:36 Weirdkid wrote:On January 22 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:On January 22 2013 19:31 fcb10 wrote: TSL4 finals rematch!!! They've played after that, but yeah! Guaranteed top match-up! :D No more Parting for Life to practise with though. Let's see if that changed anything  well creator has all of like... terius to practice with haha The slayers drama stuff when talking about practice ban blah blah blah said that Prime pretty much practices with everyone though so I'm sure Creator found some good zergs
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On January 22 2013 19:35 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 19:33 Adreme wrote:On January 22 2013 19:31 Pandemona wrote:On January 22 2013 19:28 Zealously wrote:On January 22 2013 19:27 Pandemona wrote:ZvZs like this the reason i hate the match up  So boring and meh. Id rather watch 4gate vs 4gate atleast micro prevails over a moving 101001 lings ;_; You call that... Did you... I don't... Okay, seriously. What quality are you watching in? Because what Life did last game (and partly this game too) is not in a million years anything like A-moving. So what he did this game, making 10101 speed lings and a moving into a RW 2 Queens and 3 SCs being build was not just lets target down some units and kill as much as we can with tier 1 units ;_; That is boring to me, it's just a build order win inside 5minutes. Least with 4gate vs 4gate u normally see a decent engagement before someone loses. Thats what i don't like about ZvZ when it is the rock paper scissors openings, or when it is ling bane vs ling bane Ling/Bane vs Ling/Bane is basically the very 4 gate thing you just said you enjoyed but with far far far more micro involved from both parties. Those ling/bane wars to both play and watch are a very unique experience that actually make me want to play more zerg. But it's micro on the level of 100mph units and 1mph banes, i agree it probably takes more micro than 4gate vs 4gate, but i haven't seen a ling bane game that has made me go, oh wow nice play ;_; Guess it is just my personal preference! xD
And that's perfectly fine! 
As for LifevP; I think it's still (among) the best in the world. He had Parting to practice with for a long time, and I wouldn't be surprised if they still play together. If not, well, Life is still the best >.>
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