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On January 21 2013 15:46 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 15:44 BronzeKnee wrote: That was about the worst early aggression attempt I've ever seen in PvZ. You hold it with a Cannon, a Zealot, and a wall... which are all completely standard... and if the Lings kill the Zealot, you just complete the wall... I could have held that easily.
What does it beat? It works if the Protoss goes to clear out their watch tower with their first zealot, but yeah, generally it doesn't work at all since most players just wall in and hold position the zealot. i think iv'e seen it work more then iv'e seen it fail somehow lol
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Sigh wish jaedong hadn't tried that slow ling all in, rarely works I feel
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On January 21 2013 15:49 Za7oX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 15:46 sparklyresidue wrote:On January 21 2013 15:44 BronzeKnee wrote: That was about the worst early aggression attempt I've ever seen in PvZ. You hold it with a Cannon, a Zealot, and a wall... which are all completely standard... and if the Lings kill the Zealot, you just complete the wall... I could have held that easily.
What does it beat? It works if the Protoss goes to clear out their watch tower with their first zealot, but yeah, generally it doesn't work at all since most players just wall in and hold position the zealot. i think iv'e seen it work more then iv'e seen it fail somehow lol because it's basically used against HerO and MC who always move out with their units
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man this build is not good stephano show us how to play Z plz.
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God freaking dammit Jaedong.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 21 2013 15:45 Benjamin99 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 15:44 lichter wrote:On January 21 2013 15:43 Benjamin99 wrote: This was terrible he forgot ling speed? Slow ling all in. Because lingspeed doesn't make enough of a difference Ok thx still don't understand this build. Don't like it at all.
In many cases, the zealot and Stalker walk out to the third to try and kill a queen and a handful of zerglings. With a three-gate it can take out the third if the Zerg under-reacts, so Zergs will react to the move-out. If the Protoss is careful he can force lings without losing anything. The slow ling all-in can counter that, as well as late wall-ins and stalker first.However this game, Jaedong waited way too long before checking the wall (by then it is assured it is blocked) and tried to hide too many lings for too long.
Edit: Argo looked like he was going to move out with the stalker and zealot, but Jaedong let a probe scout his third. No drones = all in.
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On January 21 2013 15:47 AllHailTheDead wrote: ok ffs
"JD is not in a position to take a 4th anytime soon"
4th goes up right after he ends his sentence To be fair, he probably shouldn't have.
That was actually pretty terrible by JD again though >_<
Hope hoon loses so we get to see Bogus beast it up :D I'm satisfied with 1 win for him...
Stephano about to show JD how it's done in sc2 maybe?
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hmm protoss time for stephano eh ? =P
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that was a bad map to go muta, not sure why JD decided to go muta
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On January 21 2013 15:48 Megaliskuu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 15:47 AllHailTheDead wrote: ok ffs
"JD is not in a position to take a 4th anytime soon"
4th goes up right after he ends his sentence Just cause he takes the 4th doesn't mean it was the smart thing to do )
I think we all know that after his failed ling all in and throwing up a spire and an infestation pit, he is pretty screwed
if you want to defend these guys then be my guest
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I think Revival will come now they need to save Stephano for l8r
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Looks like they are sending out Revival I think.
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On January 21 2013 15:46 sparklyresidue wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 15:44 BronzeKnee wrote: That was about the worst early aggression attempt I've ever seen in PvZ. You hold it with a Cannon, a Zealot, and a wall... which are all completely standard... and if the Lings kill the Zealot, you just complete the wall... I could have held that easily.
What does it beat? It works if the Protoss goes to clear out their watch tower with their first zealot, but yeah, generally it doesn't work at all since most players just wall in and hold position the zealot.
Ahh now I understand. Thanks.
However, if the Zealot scouts the Lings, you complete the wall and hold easily. And I think generally you'd scout the Lings with the initial Zealot moving out or another and have time to complete the wall.
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Stephano out next?
maps after Antiga aren't very Zerg friendly and how much practice has Stephano had with KESPA maps?
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Why would you use a build like that? I just dont get why EGTL us always doing some shitty stuff...
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On January 21 2013 15:49 blade55555 wrote:Sigh wish jaedong hadn't tried that slow ling all in, rarely works I feel  My friend is in mid or high masters, and he got sick of toss allinning him everygame, so he started doing slow ling all ins. He's like 25-1 atm O.o
I know these guys are mid masters, but it's interesting how much in can work
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