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On December 20 2012 07:42 mataxp wrote:
so, 4 zerg and 4 protoss are advancing tonight?
I hope Naama wins, Can't see it happening though
Not really surprising. Goody, Fuzer and cloud are not really top-tier these days (even though Goody is still awesome). Naama is good, but Snute is one of the best foreign players right now and MC is MC. Tomorrow MKP, bratok and MMA will likely advance and Kas has a good chance (hard group though). Overall there are just not many good terrans here.
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On December 20 2012 07:38 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 07:37 Hider wrote:On December 20 2012 07:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Naama had 80 scvs, his army was way too small. wouldn't have mattered. he traded armies when he was maxed. his mistake was not landing that 4th earlier. Would definitely have mattered. Having 80 scvs vs 60 probes in a max vs max fight is a massive disadvantage for terran.
no it wouldn't. because he didn't turtle when he was at 200. if he had 60 scvs he would just have been at roughly 180 supply. Having 80 scvs in that istuation isn't bad if he had been quicker at taking the 4th like he should have.
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On December 20 2012 07:41 Hiea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 07:35 AgentW wrote:
I think the casters kind of overplayed Naama's lead. He was ahead, but they were talking like all he had to do was A move. They didn't but Naama made 2 thors, he kept making siege tanks very late, if he went for the standard deathball of terran, 20 vikings, 20 ghost with 6 medivacs or so and then just marines (mostly) and marauders. This is a sick unit compostion, whenever ThorZaIN plays with it he crushes people even if he was previously behind. Naama had really bad army control, some good moves here and there but overall he just engaged really poorly, he got nukes but didn't use them for what you want to use nukes for, he delayed his own attack while MC was out of position with a nuke, instead of putting it in the path where MC would have to walk to get to his base. Whenever the terran has a 50+ supply lead, 3bases and a 4th on the way, with the protoss on 2 bases, you know it's the terrans game to lose.
I had forgotten that he cancelled the third with the first attack. He wasn't on a third at that point (he had like 75 SCVs on 2 base) and the floated the third over. Had he had that base down 2 or 3 minutes earlier, I think the position was unlosable. Regardless, your points are completely correct.
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naama is really good at denying scout.
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Mech vT oh baybee Naama's a man after my own heart.
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umelbumel
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thought so too. until I met bomber on ladder. lol
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On December 20 2012 07:45 Cheerio wrote:
who are the commentators?
ToD, Feast and NightEnD.
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That 2/2 Hellion, Thor + Banshee push ?
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Mech really isn't good against protoss. Just ask Goody, even he stopped playing mech against protoss.
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On December 20 2012 07:44 Mouzone wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 07:42 rasnj wrote:On December 20 2012 07:41 Cheerio wrote:
is there at least one native speaker caster? Bling? Grubby's english is better than most natives'.
Too true man. Grubby is actually just such a perfectly well rounded human being. Even has an English major I find Grubby occasionally improving my vocabulary. (I use the term English major loosely. I majored in it for 3 years though so I say we count it!)
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On December 20 2012 07:46 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 07:38 Fragile51 wrote:On December 20 2012 07:37 Hider wrote:On December 20 2012 07:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Naama had 80 scvs, his army was way too small. wouldn't have mattered. he traded armies when he was maxed. his mistake was not landing that 4th earlier. Would definitely have mattered. Having 80 scvs vs 60 probes in a max vs max fight is a massive disadvantage for terran. no it wouldn't. because he didn't turtle when he was at 200. if he had 60 scvs he would just have been at roughly 180 supply. Having 80 scvs in that istuation isn't bad if he had been quicker at taking the 4th like he should have.
Yes it would have, it's Ohana. There's no place for terran to engage favorably and after MC had the fourth he was literally down 25 supply in army at the beginning of the last 2 engagements. You need a larger army supply on such a small map as terran. And he had thor/tank inflating his supply, he really needed less scvs.
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On December 20 2012 07:48 Ounk wrote:
Mech really isn't good against protoss. Just ask Goody, even he stopped playing mech against protoss.
Or sea, he was scared into retirement by playing Mech vs Toss!
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On December 20 2012 07:48 Ounk wrote:
Mech really isn't good against protoss. Just ask Goody, even he stopped playing mech against protoss.
Careful, the realization that mech isn't good against protoss has been known to have severe side effects such as causing people to retire way sooner than any of us would've liked 
Edit: Damn you MCDayC. I've been Sarnathed. (Someone out there might get it. It's not an SC2 term though).
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On December 20 2012 07:50 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 07:48 Ounk wrote:
Mech really isn't good against protoss. Just ask Goody, even he stopped playing mech against protoss. Careful, the realization that mech isn't good against protoss has been known to have severe side effects such as causing people to retire way sooner than any of us would've liked Edit: Damn you MCDayC. I've been Sarnathed. (Someone out there might get it. It's not an SC2 term though).
GET SNIPED SON!
;p
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Wow, Naamas natural way oversaturated.
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Lol. 40 SCVs mining from a mining out natural...
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EPT
