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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
December 19 2012 22:35 GMT
#1961
On December 20 2012 07:35 AgentW wrote:
I think the casters kind of overplayed Naama's lead. He was ahead, but they were talking like all he had to do was A move.

u mean the pro players
yo
Glubschauge
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria1216 Posts
December 19 2012 22:35 GMT
#1962
On December 20 2012 07:35 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:33 Glubschauge wrote:
so its now 1-1?

I think that was the first game?


that's why i ask^^ i don't know, played myself ^^

so then it's 1-0?
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9391 Posts
December 19 2012 22:36 GMT
#1963
On December 20 2012 07:35 Bowzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:32 morlakaix wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:31 Bowzar wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:29 Champloo wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:28 Bowzar wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:26 Champloo wrote:
Naama completely outplaying MC,


Super greedy and not getting punished for it = outplaying? Are you kidding me?


Mind games are part of the game, you know?


Mind games have nothing to do with outplaying someone.


You are a fucking idiot.

And after I receive my ban, I am going to tell you again.


Outsmarting is the word you are looking for.


its not even outsmarting. That would imply Naama played smarter than MC. He didn't. Both did what optimized their winning chances.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
December 19 2012 22:36 GMT
#1964
On December 20 2012 07:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I just tuned back in after dinner. Sorry if it's been explained but I'm not reading through the whole thread to find out... Why is MC playing Naama again? Shouldn't he be playing Snute???

Snute won the winner's match against Naama. Naama now plays MC, the winner of the loser's match against Tarrantius.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
!LL
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria256 Posts
December 19 2012 22:36 GMT
#1965
man nightend so good
<(^-^<) (>^-^)>
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 19 2012 22:36 GMT
#1966
Naama had 80 scvs, his army was way too small.
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 22:37:19
December 19 2012 22:36 GMT
#1967
edit: nvm
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Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 19 2012 22:36 GMT
#1968
On December 20 2012 07:34 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:32 Fragile51 wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:31 Bowzar wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:29 Champloo wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:28 Bowzar wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:26 Champloo wrote:
Naama completely outplaying MC,


Super greedy and not getting punished for it = outplaying? Are you kidding me?


Mind games are part of the game, you know?


Mind games have nothing to do with outplaying someone.


They kinda do, actually.


dude this is just the underdogs advantage. THis actually has nothing to do with outplaying. MC optimizes his winning % by playing safe, and naama can take advantage of that. Its not really outplaying.


MC. Optimized. Safe. ?

Same MC that didn't give a fuck when he allin'd in rubber matches to punish someone playing greedy? Think about what you just wrote.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
morlakaix
Profile Joined February 2011
United States860 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 22:37:23
December 19 2012 22:37 GMT
#1969
On December 20 2012 07:34 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:32 morlakaix wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:31 Bowzar wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:29 Champloo wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:28 Bowzar wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:26 Champloo wrote:
Naama completely outplaying MC,


Super greedy and not getting punished for it = outplaying? Are you kidding me?


Mind games are part of the game, you know?


Mind games have nothing to do with outplaying someone.


You are a fucking idiot.

And after I receive my ban, I am going to tell you again.


If you weren't martyring you maybe would've received just a warning :/


I meant to say warning I guess, whatever, that guy really is a retard i'm not gonna bother arguing with him. To say psychological aspects of a game have nothing to do with outclassing or outplaying your opponent is really naive/ignorant to say.

Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
December 19 2012 22:37 GMT
#1970
On December 20 2012 07:34 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:32 Fragile51 wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:31 Bowzar wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:29 Champloo wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:28 Bowzar wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:26 Champloo wrote:
Naama completely outplaying MC,


Super greedy and not getting punished for it = outplaying? Are you kidding me?


Mind games are part of the game, you know?


Mind games have nothing to do with outplaying someone.


They kinda do, actually.


dude this is just the underdogs advantage. THis actually has nothing to do with outplaying. MC optimizes his winning % by playing safe, and naama can take advantage of that. Its not really outplaying.


Exactly. You could say he outsmarted MC but he didnt play better. In fact MC OUTPLAYED Naama.
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6657 Posts
December 19 2012 22:37 GMT
#1971
On December 20 2012 07:36 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:35 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
I just tuned back in after dinner. Sorry if it's been explained but I'm not reading through the whole thread to find out... Why is MC playing Naama again? Shouldn't he be playing Snute???

Snute won the winner's match against Naama. Naama now plays MC, the winner of the loser's match against Tarrantius.

Yea I figured it out right after I posted haha Wasn't expecting the GSL style but I like it!
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
December 19 2012 22:37 GMT
#1972
Haha, Nightend is adorable.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
December 19 2012 22:37 GMT
#1973
On December 20 2012 07:35 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:35 AgentW wrote:
I think the casters kind of overplayed Naama's lead. He was ahead, but they were talking like all he had to do was A move.

u mean the pro players

I understand they're better players than I am, but it obviously wasn't that easy of MC steamrolled him with storm and FF.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
December 19 2012 22:37 GMT
#1974
On December 20 2012 07:35 Glubschauge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:35 TheBB wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:33 Glubschauge wrote:
so its now 1-1?

I think that was the first game?

that's why i ask^^ i don't know, played myself ^^

so then it's 1-0?

Yep, it's 1-0.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9391 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-19 22:38:06
December 19 2012 22:37 GMT
#1975
On December 20 2012 07:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Naama had 80 scvs, his army was way too small.


wouldn't have mattered. he traded armies when he was maxed.
his mistake was not landing that 4th earlier.
n3gative
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada369 Posts
December 19 2012 22:37 GMT
#1976
NightEnD vs Mickey Doyle for best laugh
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
December 19 2012 22:38 GMT
#1977
On December 20 2012 07:34 TheDougler wrote:
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On December 20 2012 07:14 Relaaja wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:12 Boucot wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:09 Relaaja wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:08 Boucot wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:07 Bagration wrote:
Whoa, how did Naama 2-0 MC?

All-in game 1, all-in game 2. Hey, what did you expect ?


I believe you didnt even watched games.

I did.


Your answer tell otherwise. No one who saw game one can say it was all-in.


You act like there's something wrong with cheese. You couldn't be more wrong. It is the darkness that gives macro games meaning. It is the yang to the yin. The problem is some players try to adopt the cheese when it's not their style. Not Naama. FnaticNaama was born in the cheese. Molded by it. Now, the macro is nothing, but BLINDING.

+ Show Spoiler +
In all seriousness of course Naama can macro. He just made an absolutely fantastic call based both on the metagame and the player. What one thing did MC lose to the most in 2011? 1/1/1, which has mostly fallen out of style lately. So a couple variants of it are a great way to play against MC.

Then Naama flicks a switch, exploding a destructible rock in the ceiling. Colossus, High Templars and Stalkers are revealed

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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 19 2012 22:38 GMT
#1978
On December 20 2012 07:35 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:35 AgentW wrote:
I think the casters kind of overplayed Naama's lead. He was ahead, but they were talking like all he had to do was A move.

u mean the pro players


and also, they didnt. that game was so won by naama, if he didnt build thors but just MMM ghost viking + sacrifice SCVs. 0 chance for MC
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 19 2012 22:38 GMT
#1979
On December 20 2012 07:37 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Naama had 80 scvs, his army was way too small.


wouldn't have mattered. he traded armies when he was maxed.
his mistake was not landing that 4th earlier.


Would definitely have mattered. Having 80 scvs vs 60 probes in a max vs max fight is a massive disadvantage for terran.
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
December 19 2012 22:39 GMT
#1980
On December 20 2012 07:37 morlakaix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 07:34 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:32 morlakaix wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:31 Bowzar wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:29 Champloo wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:28 Bowzar wrote:
On December 20 2012 07:26 Champloo wrote:
Naama completely outplaying MC,


Super greedy and not getting punished for it = outplaying? Are you kidding me?


Mind games are part of the game, you know?


Mind games have nothing to do with outplaying someone.


You are a fucking idiot.

And after I receive my ban, I am going to tell you again.


If you weren't martyring you maybe would've received just a warning :/


I meant to say warning I guess, whatever, that guy really is a retard i'm not gonna bother arguing with him. To say psychological aspects of a game have nothing to do with outclassing or outplaying your opponent is really naive/ignorant to say.



Use the right word next time, idiot.
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